Russias new Combat Suit

>>34406262

They do like fantasizing about things they cant fund.

>>34406262
This is the second thread you've made about this today, this is a thinly veiled Vatnik thread.

>>34406311
actually I didn't make the other thread, was just interested in what /k/ thinks about it.

>>34406262
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Russia can't even afford optics for their soldiers. This is literally cosplay.

>>34406262
RIP peripheral vision

>>34406262
Because Americans are stupid and constantly fighting over ridiculous faggotry, Russia will always get ahead.

Like with the NASA scientist bullshit in the 60's

Cosmonauots beat them to launch because they were on the
>muh no teamwork
and
>muh segregation
trains.

I wonder what pleb, low IQ issue gave Russia an advantage this time.

>>34406262
Someone post the make-believe video about those 4-wheeled drones..

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Get out of here stalker/10

though the HUD visor is a pipe dream. Unless Russia can develop their own Microsoft Hololens, make it smaller, and cram it in the helmet.

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When are they issuing them? Around the same time as this mighty robot enters service?

>>34407790
That HUD is a joke but they can sub that for some nightvision/thermal optics that can mount into the helmet.

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>34407763
no (you) for you

>>34407817
How is it bait, dumbass?

Look at that fucking movie about the non-white NASA female scientists who did the math for this launch but could not get anyone include their math in the launch.

On top of this, they stole fucking credit and gave the woman a building like a year ago.

You're just retarded.

>>34406262
I dig the helmet but I don't like the rest.
That hexagon shit around the clothing is too thing and looks like it's made of plastic wont help with shit, all it does is look like ERA and if that was real it would be the most retarded thing ruskies ever done.

>>34407817
Your dumbass probably never heard of Katherine Goble.

Anyways, if they used her work in the project, America would have launched first.

They later used it.

Russia has always been ahead because of this faggotry.

And where is America's TALOS exosuit right now?

>>34406276
>>34406348
Russia's economy, while smaller on paper, is based on actual natural resources. America's economy, while much bigger on paper, is based on Wall Street Jew financial fraud.

>>34406276
They can fund them. Russia's thing is to make awesome tech for dickwaving purposes and then put it in a vault never to be seen again because it costs too much to be mass-produced on any effective scale. Good example: we all love the Vintorez but rumor is they're practically unseen by anyone in the Russian armed forces.

I see nothing to suggest this isn't just something Putin commissioned from a cosplay designer.

>>34407934
Wait so, so some obese sassy black women didn't actually WE WUZ NASA N SHEIT but got credit anyway?

>>34407995
No, they did the work and had the credit stolen from them.

Is this /pol/ #2?

>>34407962
in the garbage because meme armor like this is trash

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>>34406262
Don't get too impressed. All gun shows here have a different version of this "future soldier" suit.

It's made to look cool and different rather than functional.

>>34407995
>>34408047
No, they really did the work, but nobody used their work because reasons (probably racism against blacks or sexism against women). The black woman still got credit many years later for the work white men did because reasons (probably racism against whites or sexism against men).
Welcome to "equality" politics.

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>>34408361

>>34407971
>Basing your economy on one resource.
>Gauging the rest of your economy friends so they can be rich too.

I personally believe if there was enough effort and knowledge, anyone could make a super suit; I am sure they even have some for lifting heavy things. But countries have economics and budgets which is why Russia can make some shitty prototype, but can't actually make a cost effective assembly line for it.

>>34407763
What happend was that the army rocket was ignored for a navy rocket.

>>34407971
And Russia's economy is shit. Jew wins again.

>>34407802
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHPSN9tfmGA

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>>34407971
This is not a healthy economy

>>34406262
Can barely afford to feed conscripts
>CHECK OUT OUR BADASS NEW IRON MAN SUITS

>>34406262
What gun is that?

>>34408780
Lol, kinda reminds me of Canada.

Snow Niggers really do think alike sometimes.

>>34408780
is 'unclassified transactions' just like code word for russian mob deals?

>>34410497
Probably weapons sales, if I had to guess.

>>34406262
America had this too didn't/don't they?

>>34410830
We've been doing various mandible armor pieces for a decade, sure, and more advanced armor systems as well.

The difference is that we can afford to play around and experiment with this stuff.

>>34411473
The company who keeps showing this suit is a private company, it's not government.

>>34406262
I like how, when Talos was announced all you fags were masturbating over it but now that a Russian company has demonstrated a concept that is similar it's suddenly yugely impractical and will never be done. Here's a hint: every major military is looking at implementing exo-skeletons for logistics and eventually special purposes like entry teams.

>>34410830
yes, but it ended up going in the trash because this kind of future armor is a meme

>>34411721
Russia was the first in space.

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I remember when the US used to make up phony shit like that all the time.

We probably still do.

>>34411776
America got nukes first

>>34411776
is there a Russian flag on the moon?

>>34408780
Russia does not have a healthy economy, but its sector diversification has little to do with it. It's primarily sanctions and hyperconservative monetary policy that are impeding it.

t. economist
>no, really

>>34411776
kys

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>>34411797
and russia made the biggest one

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>lolololol, stupid vatnik, rus a shit, nice economy
I like how everyone here is ragging on the ruskies, while completely forgetting that the US military came up with this retarded shit decades ago, then promptly tossed it in the trash and hoped everyone would forget it. I'm not trying to defend this shit, but come on guys, let 'em play.

>>34411881
Don't forget that DARPA is dicking around with TALOS (same concept) and a US company (Revision) is still dicking around with the same concept.

>>34406262
Anyone designing a full face helmet I'd like to see them do a couple of 400m sprints while wearing it, then think its still a good idea

>>34411900
Look closely at the design and similar US designs. If they're done right, the helmet is supported by part of the exoskeleton. The whole point of these 80% coverage (or similar) suits is to up armor door kickers while giving them back some of their mobility. The real neat part is the potential for exoskeletons that redistribute the weight of rucks and other gear so foot soldiers don't fuck up their knees as much, unfortunately they'll probably turn into an invitation for giving your average soldier even more shit to carry and take care of.

>>34411823
So, uh, what do you actually do? I assume you're not an instructor.

>>34411881
the us is still looking at exoskeletons. i remember ekso bionics stock went up a lot a few months ago because the military was gonna do trials on their suit or some shit and they got a contract with lockheed martin

>>34411827
yet it was only used once and not suited for its purpose
russia is good at building big things
bad at building practical things

>>34411939
For me, its the same as gas masks, you just can't get enough damn air through the things, they fog up and play havoc with your senses. I did a lot of the clearance training where they throw us in gas masks for fucking ages on end and they truly are horrible things to be stuck in for a long time. Exoskeletons are kind of a limited use, when you're 7 days into a 10 day run around in the mountains and the battery shits itself, you're kind of gunna be stuck there and it would be kind of embarrassing to get a chopper in there for anything less than a medical evac.

There's a lot to be said about kit becoming lighter, that's honestly where I think money might be better spent if stuff is made out of super light weaves, composite plates, steel being replaced with titanium etc
But ultimately ammo, water and food are still the big 'lump' of weight even if you manage to scratch off a good percentage of what (current) armour and weapons weigh

>>34411881
That makes them even more stupid. Smart people supposed to learn from fuck-ups of others.

But's Russians, so my point is moot. They probably don't even have a brain, just a vodka filled crevice.

>>34412131
Oh yeah, Russians are the retards, right?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TALOS_(uniform)

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>>34411993
they were doing pretty good in the cold war. they btfo us during most of the space race, we pretty much pulled a hail mary at the end and pulled it off. that's why there's so many conspiracy theories and shit about it being a hoax. the reason tsar bomba it was only used once is because they did a nuclear detonation treaty not long after it was set off, plus a lot of russian officials even wanted to stop the program after they saw the destruction, it was expensive as fuck, and it busted out windows 560 miles away and the blast wave circled the earth 3 times. it actually had a theoretical potential of twice the one they set off, but they reduced the load by half to limit nuclear fallout.

soviet missile technology as a whole was more advanced than the US's during the cold war, and they had a better navy, better armor, and better artillery. the svd and pso-1 were also advanced as fuck when they were released

us documents from 1981 indicate that they thought they had a solid lead in 18 different sciences while the soviets had an undisputable lead in 23 based on what they had seen and were projected to gain more

>>34411993
>bad at building practical things
AHAHAHAH

>>34412480
Although I think some of the US analysis tended to over state Soviet capability, they definitely were absolutely horrifying.

>>34412519
>US analysis tended to over state Soviet capability
MiG-25 and F-15 comes to mind. I really don't think Soviet were better than the US.

>>34407956
They did use her calculations you fucking moron. Along with the calculations of the other four or five hundred 'computers' employed by NACA at the time. Hell the stupid 'computer' divison was managed by an African American woman so they clearly didn't give a shit about the color barrier as long as the math was right.

You seem to forget that the Soviet space program was nearly single handedly run by Sergei Pavlovich Korolev and he constantly butted heads with Valentin Glushko to the point they developed competing rocket designs to get to the Moon.
When Korolev died the force behind a lot of soviet space flight was gone and it didn't help that his replacement was completely unsuited to administrative work.

>>34408364
They used nearly all of their work. Katherine Johnson was first credited on a NASA report in 1959, she helped calculate the trajectory of Alan Shepard's flight and checked the electronic computers results for John Glenn's flight as well. She helped with orbital mechanics calculations for Apollo 11 and had a major hand in the emergency backup procedures for Apollo 13. The gal worked with NASA literally since it's inception in 1958 till 1986 and was awarded the same group award the rest of the Project Mercury, Gemini, and Apollo crew received. Hell she received an award from NASA in 1971,80,84,85, and 86 for outstanding achievements. Hardly a forgotten or ignored person.

>>34412978
they were more advanced than you might think

https://www.quora.com/How-did-Soviet-and-US-military-technology-compare

>>34413199
>quora
>citing quora

>>34413316
not an argument

>>34413346
>literally uses fucking quora as a citation
>molymemes
kys

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I like going back to older Ghost Recon games and seeing all the stuff Red Storm thought we would have by now like guys in 90's woodland camos carrying XM29 OICWs, XM8 rifles, gun mounted cameras for shooting around corners, caseless ammo, ect.

Instead they changed camo patterns like three times and kept the gear the same for the most part. Instead of doing active camo exo suit shit the next Ghost Recon game should just be guys in some mismatched camo like new BDUs with Multicam vests carrying the same AR-15 rifles except with some new gimmicky rail system like keymod because the game was sponsored by magpul.

>>34407974
You can find vintorez on photos tho.

It is used by everybody who needs suppressed DMR so not many people.

>>34407974
a couple ppl have them in these pics of russian special forces operating in syria

https://twitter.com/warsmonitoring/status/879676577436622849

>>34406262

LMAO

THEY CAN'T EVEN AFFORD SOCKS, BUT THEY WANNA MAKE IRON MAN?

>>34407974
>rumor is they're practically unseen by anyone in the Russian armed forces.
Dumb rumor.
Its an integrally suppressed SBR that fires rounds that drop like a rock, they aren't going to issue to every conscript in backwater Yakutia.
Just like how a marine could go his whole service and never see a SCAR.

>>34413390
The latest Ghost Recon game is just like you described though, except your entire team dresses like hipsters and don't even use body armor or helmet.

>>34413496
Really dumb rumour because even police forces have Vintorez.

>>34413496
Vintorez is like one the biggest meme guns. There is no point using it really, save for some close quarter clandestine bullshittery.

>>34413532
I'd say it's a perfect police or security gun.
>urban range friendly
>silenced for emergency operating without hearing protection
>doesn't need to be full-auto
That being said, it seems like it's a gun that runs contrary to Russian small-arm tactics that like liberal use of auto fire and spray-and-pray.

>>34413532
You say that, but .300 blk is making a niche killing in an identical role.

>>34413560
.300 blk was so terrible my uncles PD wouldn't buy any ARs after they tested them. Not a round that should be used for anything other than suppressed hunting

>>34414160
Which is essentially what 9x39 is for. They're analogous.

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>>34406262
the only one that could afford

>>34412978
How is it Russia's fault we thought the MiG-25 was something it wasn't?

>>34414196
rolling

Considering the Russian Army just got socks I'd say they are a ways away from outfitting their guys in this shit.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/over-300-years-later-russian-soldiers-get-socks/

>>34413560
that's just ar fags who like throwing money away on memes

>>34414196
squatting

>>34411900
US versions integrate fans that mitigate that.

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>>34414196
It's almost like, Oklahoma is Russia!
>in addition to the common characters above, everyone's first alcohol is always cheap vodka "Tvarski", everyone owns an SKS or Mosin, old ladies felling trees and carrying them back for their woodburning stoves, and everyone on the outside assumes we are all third world tier trash.

pic related is a typical quiet dinner in Muskogee, OK

Do they even have a working prototype?
Or just a cosplay mockup

>>34406262
Remember when like 3-4 years ago Russia made a shitty CG video of an automated tank they wanted to make

>>34415570
I remember the ridiculous semi-trailer war crime drones.

>>34412519
that is objective fact, looking back on it.

soviet capabilities were always exaggerated.

>>34415565
Of course they have.

>>34411827
The Tsar was made with such a high yield because at the time they didn't have the ability to accurately drop them. If you watch the test footage they literally just do a high-altitude dumb bomb drop from a plane, and the bomb itself drifted for miles off target while in the air due to winds.

>>34406262
It looks retarded. No infantryman, American or Russian, would want to wear all that shit. Imagine how shitty it would be for a ruskie grunt deployed to Syria.

>hot as fuck
>visor constantly fogs up due to stupid mask
>sand gets in everywhere, can't see shit
>computers would constantly glitch the fuck out due to government technology

>>34417116
It was made as a tech demonstrator, not a actual weapon.

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>>34417160
It's already in use.

>>34408361
I can picture a lot of stuff getting caught in, snagging on, or otherwise obstructing the powered skeleton. It sits too far off the body, shits going to get in there.

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>>34412480
I took that screenshot and highlighted it years ago, it's always fun to see things you make get reposted.

One of the interesting things that is noted in that big document is the soviet Material science, the US accurately predicted that the Soviets would be at the forefront of developing new explosives, which they did shortly after with Thermobaric weapons.

They also noted electronics and optical science as being weak points for the soviets iirc, while rocketry was a strong one.

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>>34414196
rolling

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Literally everyone is deploying or testing Exoskeletons now.

Soon, the Tier 1 nations will all have dedicated assault troops with exoskeleton armor.

Pic: PLA already deployed them in limited numbers for training and familiarization.

>>34410497
Yes.

>>34417197
For propaganda shot and to never to be seen again?

>sappers working presumably in mined to heck area
>photograph stand in FRONT of them

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Russian quality

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Sorry OP but this is the future of infantry

>>34419782
What am I looking at?

>>34420230
At piss poor welding and overall quality. God knows what's going on inside.

>>34419596
The exoskeletons we have aren't armored, they aren't intended for front-line assault. They're load-bearing machinery. They'll probably be used by logistical personnel and maybe SAWs.

>>34415554
fuck off. tulsa and OKC are great. little bit of lib trash, but nowhere near third world. OAKIE IS STRONK.

>>34420583
I see the weld on the sight, but whats wrong with the trigger?

>>34407763
Oh, yeah, the gulag system was a real shining example of cooperation and cultural progression.

>>34414196
Roll

>>34407971
>Russia's economy, while smaller on paper, is based on actual natural resources. America's economy, while much bigger on paper, is based on Wall Street Jew financial fraud.

That's why Russia will lose in the long term.

Natural resources run out.
Human greed and financial shenanigans are an infinite resource

>>34411721
>I like how, when Talos was announced all you fags were masturbating over it but now...

That could just be because once the meme wore off, everyone saw that the concept was shit with current technology.

It needs magic batteries and magic light-weight/high strength materials and magic light/powerful servos before it can actually work. That's terribly clear now and everyone knows it but Russia came late to the party and is trying to spin bullshit that everyone has already seen through when it was a USA arms supplier bullshitting.

>>34422482
Ignore and report vatniks.

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>>34413178
Holy shit, somebody who's not too retarded to read a wikipedia page. THANK YOU

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Russian """"quality""""

And yet people here believe they can into high-tech?

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>vomits

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>>34408375
What is this camo pattern?

>>34423005
"Bored designer"

>>34407956
Oh this is definitely bait. Good luck being in Russia as a Jew, fag, or nigger not named Pushkin.

>>34411881
The difference is the USA can afford it. While that was being shown around he Russians were trying to figure out how to get back into space on a stack of Yeltsin empties.

>>34422971
What the fuck is that? Jesus, is that welded?

>>34407763
>Russians won the space race with teamwork

They lost with guns at the backs of their heads, Ivan. The difference was the Russian space programs have never been required to publicly announce results so they could lie about all the cosmonauts they killed on their inferior rushed prototypes.

>>34407971
>is based on actual natural resources.

It's based on oil. Oil's really cheap at the moment. And so Russia's broke. Investing in diversifying the economy back when oil was expensive would have been a good idea, but Putin didn't.

Much of Africa also have economies based on raw materials. Look how well that's worked out for them. Turns out that the main value adding step often isn't extracting raw materials, but refining them into consumer products.

So the third world spit out the raw materials for a pittance. The Chinese then make a tidy buck using them. And finally the west trade those for fiat currencies, essentially getting all their resources and labor of the rest for sitting at a desk and making up money.

>>34408780
That's exports, not the actual economy.

Exports make only 20 % of GDP.

>>34407763
wow you were faster off the finish line.
I guess that makes your DNF more prestigious vatnik.

>>34411827
many accurate bullets > one big bullet that can't hit shit.

>>34412480
Yet they had shit like T-10 and large chunk of their army and officers consisted of slaves from countries occupied by ruskies who wanted to get free at the very first possible moment.

How feasible would it be to make an exoskeleton with bigger, stronker joints, attach a generator to the wearer's back, cover their head and torso in a one inch steel plate(they'd see through a VR headset and a bunch of crappy little cameras), then put 1/3 to 1/2 inch steel plates or Kevlar over other body parts?
Maybe reduce the thickness of the plates, that's just a heavier example that'd be able to survive .50 caliber rounds to the torso/head.

They'd be pretty hard to kill with assault rifles, it'd be good for special forces storming buildings and shit, if it's possible with current technology.

I wish we just could just have magic batteries already.

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>>34423529
It would weigh a lot. Going full polyethylene/ceramic hybrid for full body coverage would probably weigh about 100-120lb. Level 3 AR500 would be in excess of 500.

Forget about stopping .50 cal or .338.

Magic batteries are already here btw. Aluminum-air.

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>>34417231
This exoskeleton is not even a prototype, it's a concept made in few days.

>>34415570
>Still thinking that every CG or model is an official MoD material.

Meanwhile Russians use actual and working passive exoskeleton in field.

>>34423302
lmao.
Go look at M82 and M107A1 weld marks above the safety selector/lower. Also M249, M240B/L.
It's not a milled AR15 upper. How else do you attach rail to metal ?

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>>34423551
I'm thinking of a human-tank sort of suit that can be shot repeatedly from close range without major injuries, I know steel is heavy as shit but it has the advantage that it doesn't fall apart after being shot, so it'd be great for this concept, but it'd need to be used sparingly and in combination with other materials, and it'd need to have minimalismed surface area to reduce weight.

For the surface area part I'm thinking something vaguely resembling the torso of pic related, but not so excessively bulky, combining the head and torso armor into one dome-like piece would reduce the amount of material needed by a lot.

Doing a quick and probably incorrect calculation of the weight of steel vs human body surface area

>Surface area of the average human body is 2945 inches
>Divide that to a third as a guess of how much area the central piece of armor might have, and we get 981 inches
>A cubic inch of steel weighs 0.283 pounds
>981 times that is 277 pounds

Still pretty fucking heavy, with the weight of everything else that's more than can be feasibly carried around by power sources and limb motors that will be available for a while, and it'd need huge feet to have decent ground pressure.

I think layering ceramic and maybe Kevlar over a thinner plate of steel would be the right choice, preferably make the ceramic in small tiles with little space between them so if one plate breaks the weaker area it leaves behind is so small it's unlikely to get shot again.

The limbs wouldn't need to be armored like the torso and head, whatever combination of materials would let them survive a few shots from typical assault rifle rounds would be enough.

The idea is to make a suit that could tank dozens or hundreds of bullets from typical firearms like rifles, shotguns, SMGs, pistols, etc, it'd be useful for short missions in close quarters combat, SWAT teams would love it.

>>34412480
45 to 78 maybe afterward hell no

>>34423892
>45 to 78 maybe afterward hell no
When did M1A1 with normal cannon get to Europe?

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>>34423874
Try to fit that through an old building's door frames, stairways, hallways, etc.

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>>34424110
Who needs to go in?

>>34424135
If you're just going to blow the place up from afar then you don't need to spend the extra money R&D'ing a bipedal mecha suit

>>34424110
Ideally the it wouldn't be that much wider than the user's shoulders but a bit taller than they are outside of it.

I don't think it'd be that hard to fit in most buildings, I'm thinking of something smaller than the white one from my last post and even that thing could fit through most doors by walking straight through, it might hit the frame if it turned to the side though.

about as legit as all those exoskeletons and armor suits the US has been churning out since like 1990.

>>34424190
Have you been in old burger houses? They were built smaller because the people were smaller. As a 5ft 10 king of manlets, I still bonk my head going up and down the stairways of some of these places. With a rigid tank like that it doesn't appear to be able to just bend around tight spaces.

>>34424251
My dude, I was in a burgerland house built in the 1800s a few weeks ago, it had doors the same size as any modern building, but with the floors in each room being different heights so you'd unexpectedly drop six inches going through a doorway and almost fall face first into the kitchen table.

Maybe you just live in a part of the country with retarded midget architecture.

>>34422974
those are some nicely stacked dimes you fuck
welds are perfectly fine

>>34414196
rolling d

>>34414196
Squatting

>>34406262
i posted YESTERDAY that we need face protection for our soldiers. and they expect me to think its a coincidence they came out with this the day after

>>34411800
Well yes, as does China, India, the EU, and ofc the US

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>>34406262
How shit Russia's combat suit looks scary, better bring back the Land Warrior™.

>>34414196
Rolling for Vasya

>>34425354
Yay

>>34414406
It isn't their fault, it's an example of a time the US overestimated Soviet capabilities.
Which was mentioned to indicate that Cold War US documents claiming Soviet superiority should not be taken as gospel (nor should any other option though- Americans claiming superiority, Soviets claiming superiority or Soviets claiming inferiority)

Why invest in super exo skeleton technology when you can hire a bunch of impoverished computer science grads to hack your enemy's infrastructure?

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>>34406262
Next-level Cheeki Breeki

>>34406262
Any type of full suit armor is still way off due to the weight and the issue of getting really fucking hot wearing a suit like that.

Only way something like that can be visible if it was power armor fueled by some fantasy super small power source and was has some fancy cooling feature to keep the user in a good temperature.