I cannot believe you larping neaderthals really thing that a

Literally nobody thinks that. Nugget is only popular because it costs next to nothing and used to cost nothing period.

>>34402376
not to mention 54r price

>>34402376
I miss my 100 dollar Nuggets

I miss cheap guns in general

>>34402360
when has anyone ever said that? mosins just got a bit of a reputation and cult following for being dirt cheap for a while

>>34402360
Cant we all agree that they are both awesome?
Ofc the M1 is a better battle rifle, but mosins are a great begginer .30 cal rifle for cheap (at least used to be).

I can't even count the number of tards on here and pol, whenever there's a recommendation thread someone always chips in "muh nugget"

>>34402423
I'd never start someone on a Garand, cause 100% of the time they are gonna close the hatch on their thumb.

>>34402440
M1 thumb

Sup Garandfags I was gonna start a new thread but I'll post it here.
Anyone reload 30-06 for their Garand? I'm thinking about buying a press and getting a steady stream of food for it. Or is it still better to just buy up surplus 30-06 from CMP?
Either way, what are some good sources for M1 reload specs? I know fuck all about reloading, but I'm willing to learn.

>>34402360
Wow this guy is a bold counter culture rebel. What a risk taker, this changes everything
Just wow way to challenge the status quo my man

>>34402360
>metal people riding on government deer

wtf does this mean

>>34402473
I buy from surplus
>>34402481
You don't think I know exactly what kind of guy you are?
>owns taurus judge
>"everyone else is a conservative dinosaur"
>>34402493
Government guerilla warfare my dude

>>34402473
Rumor has it that the Greek surplus has effectively dried up. That leaves Korean surplus left but the CMP does not sell it (it is also kind of poor ammo with off center flash holes). Some debate if the Korean surplus is corrosive primed, but the batch I bought had corrosive primed American rounds in it so I treated it as if it was.

After surplus you have Prvi, Federal and S&B that sell purpose made Garand ammo. The problem is Prvi runs around 65-75 cents a round at cheapest. I can reload for half that cost.

I would recommend reloading for the Garand. Do note that the operating system can be powder sensitive, so buy a reloading manual that lists Garand loads seperate (Hornady does) or risk Master Po's loads (his are hot).
My current load is just over 47gr of IMR4064 in a military surplus case. I use a pulled and swaged down 7.62x54R bullet (I have a huge stock of surplus I bought years ago). This gives me about a 2MOA group in my '58 SA when I do my part.

>>34402390
Newfag here (been around guns all my life like 22s and shit, just got interested for real though in the last few weeks) please tell me what it was like. I refuse to believe mosins existed for $100

>>34402521
I can tldr it for you
load clip ~5-6
Open her up
pull bolt back until click
hold the bolt (hard) press clip in reciever with palm of hand
take your hand out wuickly let the bolt go, first round will be chambered and reciever will slam shut, now you're ready to slay commies

>>34402428
Not everyone as to spend $2500 on a gun.

$2500 is a small price to pay to wield the will of God

>>34402592
It was a magical time where you could unironically yell at poorfags and noguns for not having a gun. Nuggets were an essential for any arsenal just from how cheap it was. You could always have a spare for your buddy or keep one in your buggout place.

Children laughed, the Sun Shined, Life was good.

>>34402592
I bought my first Mosin, not know shit about what I was doing for $89.95 out of create at a gunshow a number of years back. It shot like shit (bore is shot out) but I soon bought other guns and didn't care. For some reason, earlier this year, I wanted to be able to hit paper with it. I managed to find a replacement barrel (cost $85) in January and just dropped it off at a gunsmith who is charging me $125 to replace the barrel.

Yeah, not that long ago, Mosins were less than $100. Garands were under $400 from the CMP. In the 90s you could buy an SKS and a crate of surplus ammo for $100. Times change and supplies dry up. Hell, I think it cost Oswald less than $50 for the Carcano, scope and brick of ammo that he used to kill Kennedy.

>>34402521
>You don't think I know exactly what kind of guy you are?
What?

>>34402592
>I refuse to believe mosins existed for $100
In Canada you can still buy an SKS for about $225 (roughly $170 in burger dollars)

>>34402686
rakeb8 here thinks a looney > A mighty USD, lol fuckin leaf

>>34402700
He stated that a USD will buy you more than a Leaf Dollar. Most people interpret this to mean the USD is stronger.
Use a little analytical skill before you post.

>>34402360
An m39 is more accurate than a garand. So there.

>>34402649
>>34402663
>>34402686
What the fuck? What caused the change and can we go back? Also, what time are you guys referencing, like mid 2000s or early 2010s?

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>>34402779
doesn't matter how accurate, the thirty ot 6 is so fucking wide it doesn't matter where you shoot, it'll put a fist sized hole in something

>>34402816
>What caused the change
Stock dried up, people bought up all the cheap as fuck surplus in the country but thanks to import bans no new stock came in to replace it, so slavshit got less and less common which in turn meant it got more expensive.

The perfect example of supply and demand.

>>34402663
To be fair $50 in 1963 would be about $400 today

>>34402949
B-but so will 7.62x53r

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>>34403035
Size is everything

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>>34402360
The Finnish Mosin M-39 is one of THE finest milsurp guns on the market, straight up. Yah the Rusk shit is a meme, but the Finn shit is far from meme tier, easily up there with the K98 if not better.

>>34402686
If you get dual citizenship what sort of legal loops do you need to jump through to bring firearms across the border?

>>34402974
>thanks to import bans
Except there are no bans on importing Mosins. They just dried up.

>>34403158
Put it in your trunk and just drive through, didn't even search my car when I left and came back.

>>34403158
No idea honestly, but I'm almost certain it's an absolute bitch to the point where smuggling them past the boarded is an easier option.

>>34403128
What is a good price for an M39?I would assume it's much more expensive than your standard Mosin.

>>34403205
Honestly bud I'd easily pay $500 for a Fin if it's in decent shape. I had a beat to shit one I payed $175 for in 2005, that I sold a few years ago. I've regretted it ever since. I know they will keep upping in price too,but even one in mediocre condition is worth every bit of $500. They feel so much tighter and better built than the Rusk shit

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>>34403192
>>34403203
Oh you guys, I would never even consider considering breaking the law. We have them for a reason

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>Read old gun forum posts
>Posts made by people laughing at others for implying Soviet Surplus will dry up one day

WHERES MY SPAM CANS NOW NIGGER?

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>>34403205
I paid that fat fuck $20 extra on top of $399 for "Hand Select". Honestly I could've gotten one for $50 cheaper on gunbroker but

I am not poorfag kike enough to place a bid and maybe win/lose over a $0~100 margin when it comes to firearms.

>>34402473
The general load to mimick m2 ball is 47.5 gr of IMR 4895 and a 150 gr bullet. Use hard primers to make sure that the free floating firing pin does not set one off

>>34403288
I fell for hand select once. Never again comrade

>>34403184
Wrong.

>>34402386
>>34402376
Nuggets aren't even cheap anymore and neither is the ammo unless you have a good source on surplus. Otherwise it's only price competitive with 308

>>34403101
How can baby case calibers even compete?

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>>34402700
>225 CAD = 170 USD
>hurr he thinks Canuckbucks are worth more
He just said it takes more CAD to equal a US dollar you fucking Arkansas inbred

Never change, American schooling

>Implying the m1 design can handle full power 30-06

>imply it doesn't shoot neutered underloaded "m2" ball.

>>34402473
Get a Garand Gear gas plug and you don't have to worry about a load being too hot for your Garand.

>>34402949
Are you actually retarded? The M39 also uses .30-cal bullets

>>34403272
>1500 USD
>for a refurbed rifle

Allow me to laugh.

>>34404284
If you replace the gas plug with a Garand Gas Plug, it can handle full loads with no issue. Just make sure that the gas system is in working order and boom, you have a Garand that can handle full 30-06 hot loads the same way your mother handles John after John's spicy loads all over her whore face.

>>34404414

are you mentally retarded?

>get a adjustable vented gas plug to vent the gas it can't handle out

>hurr durr it can shoot full power 30-06 now!

>>34402360
for the price of 1000 rounds of garand feed, and the bare bones rifle itself you can purchase could buy 2 finnish mosin nagants, and 3000 rounds of mosin food.

>>34402360

>one of the rifles spent 4 years on the biggest and most brutal front of all time, against the best trained army in history

>the other rifle was used for the last year of the war when the real fighting was over

>>34404422
No dumb ass the plug adds more volume so the pressure is lower so it doesn't bend your op rod.

>>34402376
This. I bought a nugget and ammo for $100.

That how much it costs to shoot my garand for an hour.

>>34402592
First mosin $98.99
First Turkroach mauser $89.99
Mosin m38 $120
First K31 $150
First sks. $150 (1996)

Never sell guns kids! You'll never get them as cheap as the first time.

>>34404616
>Never sell guns kids! You'll never get them as cheap as the first time.


Fuck man i wish i never sold my SKS.

>>34404616
This right here. I had bought an Israeli Mauser in 7.62mm for 100 bucks at a pawn shop. Sold it to a friend years later who sold it to a gunshop instead of offering to sell it back to me. Miss that damn thing. Now they are impossible to find and are expensive. Never sell guns if you can help it.

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>>34402360
>M1 Garand
>not M1 Carbine
get some taste fag

>>34404593
The M1 garand was in service since the 30's and we got into the war late 41. What the hell are you suggesting here? That you're a retard?

>>34404399
>Allow me to laugh.

Finish though

>>34404422
>get a adjustable vented gas plug to vent the gas it can't handle out
>hurr durr it can shoot full power 30-06 now!


>Our ported gas plug does NOT vent gas like a vented gas plug. The secret is the hollowed out area in the base of the plug which increases the initial volume of the gas cylinder. By increasing the volume, the peak pressures are reduced without the need to vent the gas.

Mind you, you're still right - if you're lowering the pressure, you're lowering the pressure, doesn't matter to the ballistics how you're doing it you're still getting less push on the actual bullet.

>>34404686
most of the troops early in the war went in with fucking 1903s m8

jam o matic shitheap, murrica patriotism clogs the facts that its a POS and many died in WW2 because of it.

its a completely closed system and has no way for water/debris to drain out of the action, it fired 0 rounds in the mud test.

>>34404715
None the less, the m1 grand wasn't only used in the last year of the war, that guy is just retarded or trolling.

>>34404720
T. No guns brit.

Bin that knife, paki.

>>34404707
Lowering the pressure in the gas system wouldn't affect what's already been used to send off the round out the barrel. At least nothing really significant.

>>34404721
yep, but the majority still went into the war with 1903s
Garands took the lead around 1943, if I remember correctly

>>34404731
>>34404731
>>34404731
>>34404731
>>34404731
Gonna need a source on that, dude. I'm not saying quite a few 1903's weren't used but the M1 Garand was adopted almost 5 years earlier.

>>34404728
>Lowering the pressure in the gas system wouldn't affect what's already been used to send off the round out the barrel. At least nothing really significant.

Hate to admit it but I got so focused on the lower pressure I did not think of that.

Wouldn't that be true for a system that vents gas too, though? If it's doing it at the gas block, it doesn't matter to barrel pressure so it shouldn't matter to ballistics

>>34404891
I'm not sure if I'm following here. The Garand Gas plug is essentially a hollowed out plug. It's the same dimensions but instead of being flat, it has the interior part of the cap drilled out. It's still enclosed so the gas isn't being vented off, it just has more room so lower pressure.The actual hole the gas leaks from is still the same size so I imagine it's affecting the impulse (Garand Gear really did their home and lab work on this one, check out their stuff here: http://www.garandgear.com/m1-garand-ammunition) and at that stage the bullet is pretty much gone. It's probably not a noticeable difference in ballistics the same way the initial system was doing before by bleeding off some fo the energy to operate the bolt. I imagine it's a very small amount of gas to work the bolt and put another round in the chamber.

>>34404721

Holy fuck youre autistic.

>>34402592
I bought a hex nugget for $125 like 3 years back. I only went through one spam can before they all got sent to conflict zones, was fortunate to inherit half a can from a buddy. Haven't shot it since.

>>34403101
>Size is everything
Fuck sectional density and velocity eh?

>>34404715
That was mainly the marines and non-front line troops.

>>34402423
Not when shit likes the Ruger America, Savage Edge/Axis exist

>>34402360
the MAS 49/56 is still better than both of them
>weighs less up front than a garand
>10rd removable box mag
>field strips into fewer parts
>almost twice the effective range

>>34402360
>government deer

the worst kind of deer by far

>>34402592

cheaper than dirt catalog back in the early 00s used to have nuggets for $60-80

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>>34412306
Gross

>>34404715
not in africa.

>>34402390
>I miss cheap guns in general

400 doilar ARs are not cheap enough for your?

>>34402592
when mosins cost 100 bucks i was a wee lad who would read the sunday comics, and attached to the comic pages would be advertisements for Dunhams sports or Dicks sporting goods, and in the little gun page there would be mosins for $79.95 and even little me saw that and went "wow thats actually really cheap"

>>34402360
That thread name. I love the M1G but 8 rounds isn't all that great. Just get an AR-10 you nerd.