Stop using push feed rifles

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>>34401838
>using a rifle

>>34401838
Plz explain this autism.

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>>34401838

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>>34401943
There is push feed and controlled feed.

>left
Controlled feed pushes the bullet/casing into the chamber but as it pushes it in the the rim/case head slips through a gap in the lip of the breach face and this secures it then guides it the rest of the way.

>right
Push feed just pushes the bullet/casing into the chamber and once the casing is fully into the chamber the extractor squeezes open and then snaps around the rim/case head.

>>34402002
Okay. So then, what are the chief disadvantages of the push feed systems, and what are some typical examples?

>>34402002
why are the lugs different shapes on the far-right bolt?

>>34402019
1. Pulling back on the bolt before the round is completely chambered does nothing to move the round backwards as well.

2. You cannot chamber a round to shoot at a bear while hanging upside down from a tree.

>>34402087
and if you turn the rifle the wrong way while loading it, the cartridge will fall out or induce a jam

lever actions without controlled feed are a terrible idea

>>34402087
>Things that happen ~0.00000000000%of the time.

>>34401838
This is the prime example of the shit show that is the gun community sometimes.

When did rifles, overall, stop using controlled feed? 1964 (roughly)

For 50 fucking years, fudds and /k/udds have been whining.

Newsflash: Barrels are better and guns are more accurate today too.

>>34402022
Because Weatherby likes surface area.

>>34402124
I only hunt while inverted. It just feels more sporting.

>>34402167
it is more of a problem with lever actions that have a side ejection port, you might want to observe the cartridge going into the chamber, especially on a .22lr--simply because you don't know when it's empty until you hear a click.

Problem is if you turn rifle to side while working the lever it will jam.

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Now this is some autism I can endorse!

>>34402204
solution: get a Winchester 1873 that can be reliably cycled in any orientation

>>34402019
>what are the chief disadvantages of the push feed systems
Extractor failure and plunger ejector failure.

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FUDD FIGHT

>>34402022
something smarter people than I determined was best.

I always heard african big game guns were controlled feed so you could be in an awkward spot and still fire.

>>34402921
Ok- how often does that happen though?

I worked on a ton of beat hunting rifles in my time. I saw one (1) plunger ejector get stuck, and I unstuck it by soaking the plunger in break-free and pushed it in, it popped out slightly, repeat about a hundred times, and it popped loose. I did disassemble the ejector to get all the rust out, but it was easily fixed. The rifle in question was a post-64 Model 70.

It's fashionable to slam push feed rifles, but I have two that work. All of these scenarios like "can't feed while hanging upside down..." are solved by pushing the round into the mag.

>>34402022
Strength. The Mark V action is one of the strongest ever built.

>>34402571
That's absolutely barbaric to do that to a rifle with that history...why does it give me a boner.

>>34403337
I meant why is one row of lugs moon-shaped while the other is squares?

>>34403021
>post-64 Model 70
As far as push feed actions go the post-64 m70 is probably my favorite. Shame it gets so much hate.

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>>34403357
because old guns with new tech is hot

>>34401953
Now post a picture where it's a penis

>>34402141
The cz550 serious wants a few words mate

>>34401838
I use a CRF rifle, and even I admit that push feed works just fine. It's a fucking nonissue. Get over it already.

>>34402644
>in any orientation
I think your gun should work whether or not you like girls.

>>34402087
>You cannot chamber a round to shoot at a bear while hanging upside down from a tree.
You can if you work the bolt fast enough

>>34403357
>fr8
>history
They're Spanish-produced 98 actions professionally bubba'd by their own military my dude