Even in darkness, there is still a glimmer of hope.

Is there an article bout it somewhere?

>>34400495
Fuck, this gives me hope. Was going to kms before I read this.

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>post yfw this possibly leads to the end of mag limits and AWBs

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>>34400524
Several

>>34400529
Don't let us stop you.

It's real

https://twitter.com/AP/status/880577398407929856

Will they contest knowing it will get forwarded to the SC?

>>34400851
If it does, holy shit we may see the SC smite magazine bans nation wide.

FUCK YOU NYC, CHIRAQ, LA, BALTIMORE, AND BOULDER. FREE OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS FROM THEIR 2ND AMENDMENT OPEN-AIR PRISONS

>>34400495
Counting the days until California sinks into the sea

>gun laws are loosening up in my state, too
[email protected]

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/09/missouri-no-longer-requires-permit-for-concealed-carry.html

>>34400851
SC is too afraid of making another pro gun ruling. They just turned down Peruta a few days ago.

Its not about the magazine ban but taking property without compensation.

>>34401004
>They just turned down Peruta a few days ago.
Again, they have a bunch of virtually identical cases coming down the pipeline soon. They can't take them all, so they'll take one and turn down the rest. That's how the Supreme Court works.

>>34400495
That the media can get firearms terminology right? Apparently not.

Get rid of the NFA while they're at it.

>>34400851
Here's the thing: turning the law down changes nothing. Calis still can't buy or sell magazines that hold more than 10 rounds. The old ban prevented the buying and selling of those magazines, but didn't require anyone who owned them to surrender them over. The new law would have required that, and got turned down for being ex post facto bullshit

>>34400697
So many fucking sockpuppet accounts holy shit.

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>admendent

>>34401037
>Again, they have a bunch of virtually identical cases coming down the pipeline soon
Like what? They have the Nichols case and IIRC another open carry case but I haven't heard of any others.

>>34401111
They didn't create the concept of rights so that homosexuals could force Christians to bake gay wedding cakes.

>>34401063
The thing is, unless a California cop literally pulls you over as you're crossing the border from another state, searches your car, and finds a high-capacity magazine in new packaging with a dated receipt from the store you bought it from, it makes a ban on buying high capacity magazines in other states and bringing them into California unenforceable. I've lived in California since 1994 - can anyone prove beyond a reasonable doubt when I bought a magazine and that it wasn't before the ban? If not, then there's no case.

>>34401137
I'm just saying that this isn't going to go up to the SC. The old law is still in affect, and the reason the new law got shot down has less to do with the 2nd amendment, and more to do with taking people's legal property without compensation

>>34401169
>affect
Effect

>>34401127
>create the concept of rights
Yeah, they also didn't create the concept of rights at all. They created a bill of rights to protect what were considered to be natural rights endowed to all men.

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>>34400552

>>34401169
I'm not a lawyer. I don't care what legal technicality the law was struck down on. I just care that it's gone.

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God dammit I just left CA because of its shitty gun laws, guess I'll be moving back next week.

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>>34400495
.....what reality did I wake up in? Not only a CA law getting torpedoed but the AP getting terminology right?

>>34401188
>They created a bill of rights to protect what were considered to be natural rights endowed to all men.
Rights are a joke now, they're just civil privileges.

>>34401258
It's opposite day or we've merged with some bizzaro universe.

>>34401248
Nothing's changed, man. All the old shitty laws are still there

>>34401346
I need to get my TX license to buy all the shit I've been wanting for the last decade. Dude I talked to even said he'd help me do the paperwork for supressors. Not sure I want to dick around for a year of paperwork though.

>>34401334
We've been in a bizzaro universe for a while now.
>Donald Trump is president
>AR-15s are dirt cheap while quality AKs are expensive
>I somehow lost my virginity
It just don't make any damn sense.

>>34401004
>SC is too afraid of making another pro gun ruling. They just turned down Peruta a few days ago


Gun control lobby is too afraid to chance it being heard. SC is getting more conservative with Trump at the wheel. And setting up cases to go to SC when 2 Justices could be replaced within the first term is dangerous.

IMO they'll let it die and try again in a decade.

>>34401508
this nigga knows how the game is played

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TFW YOU LIVE IN MD AND CAN HAVE ASSAULT CLIPS BUT NOT ASSAULT HANDLES

>>34401681
kennedy isnt going anywhere and they will put RBG in a fucking vat of nutrient fluid before they let her retire.

The reality is there is no real risk for us at the supreme court right now.

>>34401708
hmm that looks good.
should have gone with a nonrecip side charger though.

>>34401371
Just do it man, set up a trust and start paying for them. If you do it now the months will fly by. If you keep putting it off you'll never get one. Just think, if you bought one a few months ago it'd be halfway to your hands by now.

>>34401333
>Three threes in a row
Cant argue with that.

>>34401708
Not gonna lie, if you gave that a different hand guard, and either rounded out some of the hard edges, or sharpened the edges on the stock, that would be one seriously sexy rifle

>>34401708
>scr5

does the scr use a standard upper? interested but i want to change the barrel to somthing retarded :)

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>>34401913
SCR can use any upper from what i understand

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>>34401837
SCR is one of the best looking rifles if done right.

>>34400495
CALIFORNIA DONE GOOFED.

BLOOMBERG ON SUICIDE WATCH.

>>34401937
A shame it can be a bit of a hassle getting one sometimes

>>34401937
>SCR is one of the best looking rifles if done right
Yeah, especially if you don't put those fucking stupid canted sights on it.

>>34400495
Wait, they made a magazine that holds bullets? What's the point?

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>>34401978
i just saved the picture for the wood.

Trying to use canted sights on a rifle like this would be awkward

>>34401937
Delicious

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The SCR uses a receiver/stock interface based on the Remington 1100, so with minimal woodworking you can actually get any stock made for the 1100 to fit it. Pic related.

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>>34402004

>>34401925

wow interesting, can you just buy the lower, and the wood stock? i kinda want to build one now

>>34402037
What in the ever-living shit is going on with this thing?

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>>34401708

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>>34402048
you can buy the lower which include a plastic stock. you have to make the wood stock from scratch. The mechanism goes into the back of the stock

>>34402052
the reddot is supposed to cowitness with the scope, i think it provides a red dot through the scope crosshairs. the packs on the bottom rail are picatinny battery compartments.
its dumb imo, but i remember the concept being survival rifle or something like that.

>>34401137
Unless the release date of the firearm or mag (when it was first put on the market) was after the ban

>>34400916
what if it goes the wrong way and supreme court upholds it then we get super duper hyper fucked and set precedent.

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>>34402145
#yolo

How long until my beautiful New York gets uncucked? I want to believe.

>>34402145
>>34402180
>>34402213
Supreme court case doesn't have to mean it will always go pro 2nd Amendment. We could get fucked here.

>>34401729
>nutrient fluid

I actually do have issues with the prospect of super-long appointments due to medical technology. like, if you can put yourself in a Mr. House vault, can you be SC justice for 200 years just as a "fuck you and everyone else"? Like, sooner or later we will need to put a cap on those people, whether it be 25 years or whatever.

>>34402251
>sooner or later we will need to put a cap
Founders thought that a life long appointment would "steady the ship" of democracy getting out of hand. I support it but that means that elections really do, and should, have consequences. I don't care if Trump does anything in office but troll shitlibs on twitter as long as he keeps nominating conservative justices.

>>34402233
while you are correct
>as can be confirmed by your double dubs
they have already established the right to keep and bear arms as a fundamental right

which means any infringement of that right must undergo strict scrutiny

and to reverse themselves now would require Olympic levels of gymnastics and the more "limber" those old fucks get the more obvious it is the "Life-terms" need to be shorted

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>>34400552

>>34401334
All realities are winding down. This insanity is the result of multiple versions of reality merging to uphold the lie of perception. It's why some remember events as being wildly different.

>>34400495
Correct me if im wrong but this is in reference to banning the possession of those "grandfathered in" 30 round magazines?

I mean thats good for ppl who bought that stuff before the 10rnd limit law but young califags still cant buy anything over 10rnds

Sorry califag land is still a marxist shithole- im out

Dont feel like spending the rest of my life payingg a mortgage anyways

>>34401708
That honestly looks like something you'd see in a Fallout game.

>>34402233
>Supreme court case doesn't have to mean it will always go pro 2nd Amendment. We could get fucked here.


We could, but unlikely. The court struck down bans recent as a few years ago. Gorsuch does not appear to be an activist Justice. It would ultimately be an argument of States Rights vs Citizen rights to firearms. Does firearm capacity/accessories directly effect 2A? Do states have the right to regulate those accessories within their own borders? Could you not just limit everyone to handloaded single action bolts? Does that not violate the purpose of the amendment in the first place?

It's awfully juicy and I don't think the SC would turn it down. Hence why I think Cali state attorneys may let sleeping dogs lie. A precedent against mag bans alone could kill AWB and many gun control schemes at once.

>>34402251
>>34401729

yeah, life terms need to be shortend.

>my political candidate seems to be winning
>i'm thinking of retiring
>opposing side actually wins
>never mind...

maybe no one past 90yrs of age
or
no one past 30yrs or service in position

>>34401430
>I somehow lost my virginity
EVERYBODY BATTLESTATIONS
AWOOOOOOGA
AWOOOOOOGA
TIMELINE SPLIT INEVITABLE, BRACE FOR IMPACT

>>34401708
Holy Shit I'm getting Stg44 vibes strong from this

>>34402125
Because you can never replace the magazine body, right?
>What is Theseus's paradox?

>>34401925
wtf $500 for a lower?!?

>>34402126
If you could put magpul's mossy 500 stock on there that shit would be nice.

>>34400495
All the hopeful fucking retards in this thread that thinks this block means they're going to start allowing 30 rounders. Google the story and you'll find out it's only blocked because the law allows CA government to seize property without compensation not on the grounds of the 2nd amendment.

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>>34402934
Depending on the kit it was $500 for the lower and stock with the BCG since it's a custom dove tail.

>>34403054
>BCG

was thinking of making one in 458 socom. so id use a differnt bcg anyhow

>>34400552
the difference between California and Colorado mag limits, is that nobody gives a fuck in Colorado and calicucks bend over and take it.

>>34401925

I thought it was limited to 5.56 and bellow? I heard something about SCR lowers beating themselves to death with more potent chamberings.

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>>34400495
>9th Circus overturns this in 3...2....1.
We can't have nice things in this state.

>>34400552
MAKE CALIFORNIA AMERICA AGAIN

>>34403222
I give a fuck
Please save me

>>34401708

W O O D
O
O
D

>>34400495
Is this blocking the actual magazine ban or the one that banned you from possessing pre-ban magazines?

>>34403175
Dumb question but IIRC .458 socom works with AR-15 mags right? The SCR bolt head is milspec, so you could get a .458 bolt head and upper and it would work fine.

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>>34400552
>it's always darkest before the dawn

>>34403437
This probably only targets the one banning possession of pre-ban mags.

>>34401113
Baker out of Hawaii, Wrenn/Grace out of D.C.

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>>34403437
>>34403471
>there had to be federal intervention to stop cali from pulling some ex post facto shit
how the fuck is shithole even in the union

>>34400916
I wouldn't get your hopes up just yet.

SCOTUS just refused to hear the Peruta v San Diego case.

>https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2017/06/daniel-zimmerman/breaking-supreme-court-denies-cert-peruta-vs-san-diego-county/

Probably better to wait on any 2A cases anyway until we can get at least one more conservative justice on the bench.

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Love this.

Does this need to go to the SC to be challenged or can the 9th district overturn this in some bullshit way?

>>34403499
Large percentage of the total population of the entire country, huge agricultural business, most trafficked ports on the west coast, several other reasons. California will always be part of the U.S because the feds will never give it up.

>>34402580
No law against "finding" mags. Just can't buy, sell, or transfer. Find a stack of gi 30 rounders in the desert.

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so basically if we read past the click bait we still wont be able to by mags that are more than 10 rounds and nothing changed right?
FUCK

>>34403628
that's not true. the law says they must be surrendered or destroyed.

>>34400495
So... I'm visiting my grandma in San Diego tomorrow. Can I bring 15 rounders or should I stick with 10s?

>>34401430
>lost your virginity
Only the first seal of many anon. There are several of us horsemen who have yet to ride.

>>34403647
a 10 rounder should be enough to take down a old lady anon

Sunnyvale local here, what is the best way to tell my city council to suck my fat ass?
Fock vs. Sunnyvale effected by this?

>>34403667
She's a tough old broad. 90 years and she still picks up shifts at the 7-Eleven.

Anybody got serious advice, though?

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>>34400916
>>34400851
>mfw RBG has a rage-induced heart attack

>>34401037

And they're going to pick the best one, I guarantee it.

>>34400495
Don't prank me bro.

>>34403647
Technically unless you were in CA and owned the 10+ rounders before 1990 you can't have them.

This ruling says nothing about bringing new mags into CA.

SO MANY PEOPLE ARE READING THIS WRONG.

ALL THIS RULING SAYS IS THAT LEGAL HIGH CAP MAG OWNERS MAY KEEP THEIR MAGS RATHER THAN DESTROY THEM.

Don't own any 30 rounders? Doesn't apply to you. Want to get some 30 rounders? Too bad, still restricted.

This only affects people who already have them.

For example, you can't go out and buy a Magpul 30 round magazine because those definitely didn't exist before 1990 and were not grandfathered in.

You can't sell, trade, transfer, etc, the high cap magazines either, so people who are like "Find someone who has some" are dumb too.

Sure, burden of proof is on the state, but this doesn't effect most people.

>>34400916
>If it does, holy shit we may see the SC smite magazine bans nation wide.
No you won't that is beyond the scope of what's going on.

ALL THIS INJUNCTION SAYS IS THAT YOU CAN'T FORCE PEOPLE TO GIVE UP/DESTROY THEIR EXISTING MAGAZINES.

It's not saying you can have them or get new ones, it's just saying if you have some of the few existing legal high cap mags you can continue to keep them. That's it.

>>34403222
Bitch please. Anything far enough above Sacramento goes by the rules of nature.
P.S. Stae of Jefferson soon.

>>34401137
Good for you, but for everyone who has come to California after 1994 can't have 30 rounders.

This is a VERY MINOR victory. People misunderstanding it are going to get popped with PMags

>>34401925
Not sure it can use any upper, as it uses a completely different recoil buffer system

>>34403632
Correct. things didn't get better, they just didn't get worse.

>>34403737
So when I go down to California to visit my folks, only bring usgi and other non-polymer mags...?

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>>34401248
>moving back to California
>for any reason at all

>>34403175
Have to use their proprietary BCG or else it won't work. And if you get the lower you have to get a the bolt, firing pin and cam pin to finish it. Also they don't come with a bolt catch but you can add it in later... for a price.

>>34403743
It will fit any milspec upper. Not milspec? Check before you buy.

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>>34400552

>>34401708
>that gun
>Maryland
Heck of a shotgun

>>34403717
>Sure, burden of proof is on the state, but this doesn't effect most people.

Are you daft? This absolutely works in everyone's favor.

GI mags are ubiquitous. Buy 'em from a friend out of state, or travel and get them yourself, either way its impossible to prove how or when you acquired them unless you incriminate yourself.

>>34401708
>tfw you dont know if you are an STG-40, a PPSh-41, or an ar15

>>34400495
Suddenly...America is starting to look better.

We just need to abolish the 9th, and jail everyone who worked for it.

>>34403829
You're the daft one.

What you're saying has been true since 1994. So this injunction doesn't change anything at all, it merely keeps the status quo for a bit longer.

People can get high cap mags the way you're saying, but then again, only if they lived in CA before 1994. Anyone born after that or who moved here after that can't get a high cap magazine as they could obviously never prove they had it before 1994. Also, like has been said, you have to make sure to get mags that were mad pre-1994 or at least appear that way.

Literally nothing changes.
>>34403772
Where does your drivers license say you live? How long have your grandparents lived in California?

If you're from out of state and don't have a CA license, only use 10 rounders. If your grandparents lived in CA before 1994 you could say they were his if you got questioned, but they'd have to be there with you, since lending high cap mags is still a misdemeanor.

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>>34400552
>m...m...maybe it will only get to the circuit courts and drumphs supreme court won't hear the case

>>34403865
Just split the 9th and put in place punishments for judges blatantly ignoring the actual wording of the constitution or otherwise applying personal political goals to rulings. Half expect the 9th circus to claim "the right to keep and bear arms" means "the government is not allowed to amputate your actual arms and you are allowed to wear tank tops" at some point here.

>>34403906
At least put in penalties for having a certain number of rulings on a general constitution related subject overturned within a certain time frame.

>>34403868

Please reread pc 12020
>manufactures or causes to be manufactured, imports into the state, keeps for sale, or offers or exposes for sale, or who gives, or lends, any large-capacity magazine.

POSSESSION is 100% legal. You are in no way required to incriminate yourself; if asked by an officer all you have to say is they are legal any further questions please contact my lawyer. Everything else is on them to prove; this is literally unenforceable tier shit just like the AR pistol brace "ban" from before. You're an epic tier boot licker and the reason why the state is cucked.

>>34402532
>Olympic levels of gymnastics
You mean the living constitution doctrine, specifically created so that leftist judges can have legitimacy when they put feelings above the word of law?

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>>34402890
Really gives me a VG 1-5 vibes

>>34403906
>>34403913

Don't stop there.

Hold lawmakers accountable as well. It's their fucking job to research and write good laws. Any legislator who cosigns or votes for a bill that is passed into law which is later found to be unconstitutional, their office should be made vulnerable to negligence under tort laws.

>>34401708
Add a magpul 60 tounder and now you have the Bethesda Fallout Shotgun.

>>34403685
play it safe with a 10 rounder

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>>34403695

>>34400495
Simply replying to Dankest Dungeon quote

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>>34400529

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>>34400697
>all those traitors to the BoR in the comments

>>34401248
Nothings changed senpai, old laws are still in place.

Only thing this reversal does let people with Pre-ban 1994 mags, keep them. Remember at the start of the year California said people had to give them up before July 2017

On the other side AW got denied so thats a plus. Laws are still in place, and Gov. Brown pushed the Register date until July 2018. I anticipate a few more set backs for their bullshit AW Registration

>>34401430
I don't believe you lost your virginity
> enjoy your hand

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>>34400552

>>34403642
Not anymore numb nuts... hence what this whole thread is about...

>>34403717
EVERYONE READ THIS
> THIS FUCKER KNOWS WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT.....

>>34403717

Great post, but please... learn the difference between "effect" and "affect".

>>34403829
>tfw when yungfag born in 1996
I feel like they would be suspicious

I do have one 30 rnd my dad gave me though, just nowhere and no reason to use it

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>>34400552

>>34404628
who cares? mfg, selling, and lending high cap mags is illegal, possession isn't (yet).

who's to say yungfag didnt find them buried in the woods with a receipt from 1990? doesn't much matter how fishy the story is, burden of proof is on the state to show otherwise. besides, no prosecutor is going to put the time in to chase that kind of case (esp if you lawyer up) unless its an add on for a felony case

>>34401708
You have good taste

>tfw this happened as a result of NRA lawyers
I bet those daily concern troll threads about them not doing anything are still going to be made, of course.

>>34401248
I have a question about this gun. Anyone feel free to chime in. I was at the gun store looking at 22s and saw the MP22 and noticed the end of the barrel.

wtf is that about?

>>34401333
This Anon speaks the truth

>>34405676
>wtf is that about?
you cant be serious...

>>34405686
I have never seen it before anon.

learn me pls XD

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>>34403411

>>34401063
I think this may go a bit further then that
>“The State of California’s desire to criminalize simple possession of a firearm magazine able to hold more than 10 rounds is precisely the type of policy choice that the Constitution takes off the table,” the injunction read.

http://www.sacbee.com/news/state/article158965184.html

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>>34403690
PLEASE LET THIS HAPPEN

>>34401188
Not exactly, the bill of rights are only for US citizens which is separate from natural rights which are innate to all.

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>>34402543
>F-15
>F-4
Why is Watterson so based?

>>34405763
>the bill of rights are only for US citizens
SCOTUS disagrees

>>34403717
You obviously never heard of repair kits, also its 1994 not 1990.

>>34405763
If you are within the borders of the USA, the consitution and bill of rights applies to you.

However, being a specific category of persons, like non-resident aliens, allows for some federal restrictions to apply to you if the fed can show reasonable purpose for those restrictions.

>I'm so sick of practicing for the Bar exam.

>>34400495
This injunction just means that the law making hi cap owners potential felons cannot be enforced.
The rhetoric of the injunction is incredibly pro-2A. He basically makes a mockery of the AG's logic.

HOWEVER, the decision is based on the government being able to confiscate property without due process or reimbursement.
He says making an injunction based on the 2nd amendment would have taken too many resources and time to produce.

He's clearly a pro-2nd guy but to think that this temporary injunction is going to somehow bring back hi cap mags for sale and use is pretty farfetched.

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>>34405821
Actually it was F-14 that the T-Rex was piloting, but still great.

>>34402650

McDonald v Chicago

>McDonald v. Chicago, 561 U.S. 742 (2010), is a landmark decision of the Supreme Court of the United States that found that the right of an individual to "keep and bear arms" as protected under the Second Amendment is incorporated by the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment against the states.

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>>34405763
>Not exactly, the bill of rights are only for US citizens

>>34403647
Jesus, dude. Just hit her a couple of time with a hammer.

>>34400552
DON'T JINX IT!

>>34400552

Only if the GOP keeps the Senate.

Remember faggots, this is why we vote Republican. Do your part.

>>34403647

>grandma in San Diego

tenges a regresar

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>>34400552

>>34406047
To play devil's advocate, it looks like he drew the intakes from a F-15 in the first pic.
They're otherwise perfect, which I appreciate as a huge plane sperg.

Apparently it has nothing to do with lawmakers changing their mind just a paperwork issue.

>>34405694
it's threaded to accept a muzzle device

>>34403674

Nope. Sunnyvale law is in effect with no injunction. If this goes up to the SC and they uphold that the law is unconstitutional then an overturn of the Sunnyvale law will happen.

>>34400953

Learn to swim.

>>34406655
that's what I thought. But time will tell, right?

>>34400495
California gun laws are still strict but thank god it didn't pass.

>>34403717
FUCKING THIS!!

This Stay ONLY applies to the Grandfathered Mags folks had from before the previous ban. It does NOTHING toward allowing folks to acquire new "High Cap" Mags in CA. It merely prevents CA from forcing the folks with the Grandfathered Mags to destroy them/get rid of them.

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>>34407069
Yes, well done California, well done... HOWEVER, you still have to face the 9th circuit.

>>34401063
Ex post facto doesn't mean you can't ban possession of something that was previously legal, otherwise we'd be talking about pre-ban crack and heroin.

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>>34400495
>darkness
The sun is shining brighter everyday, anon.

>>34400495
where the fuck was our judge when they did this in CO? i'm getting tired of driving to Wyoming and wasting good wheels for my grinder.

>>34401708
>>34403851

it's a trans-ar that identifies as a PPsh. Get your pronouns right shitlord.

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>>34408132
>Vermont is liberal as fuck but also has far better gun rights than literally every other state
It just doesn't make any sense

>>34408447
When you're that White you don't even need laws

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>>34400552

>>34401333
the fucking truth

>>34401708
Do these cost more than your standard AR?

>>34402792
I'm thinking more 80 years of age.

It may be brutal to say but, I'm only going on 20 years old, someone with >5 expected years left of their life should not potentially make decisions that will impact me for the half century+ I will be around. It just isn't right

>>34408447
Maybe it isn't the people living in the state, but just the ones controlling it.

The concept of state politicians or politicians in general representing their people is a joke at best.

>>34408107

Do you have any pre-banned crack or heroin?

>>34408702
Yes. A lot more. Complete rifle is like $1000ish. Lower is $500 or so.

>>34407069
>Grandfathered mags

No such thing. If the magazine falls from the sky or is found in a trashcan you can take possession of it. Possession of a magazine made after 20XX is not illegal, regardless of capacity, and never was until this latest gun control bill that just got stay'd.

Niggas think that California is New York. It's not.

>>34402532
But the mental gymnastics are complete. You see, by wording it as "any infringement " one immediately rules out all possibiliries, as the plain English wording states "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED".

Roger is my cousin, for real. He is extremely based.

>>34408447
Maybe they're actually liberal instead of progressive shitstains on a few issues?

>>34403724
>few

>>34405738
HOLY FUCKING SUNBURNT FUDGE PACKERS BATMAN

This could be the start of a new age

>>34403717
Anon, the Nevada border is only a couple of hours away.....

>>34405738
Potential for constitutional challenge.

>>34403256
>>34404716

These can't be comfortable to hold.

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>>34400495
>>34400552
This is just a temporary injunction against enforcement while the courts sort it out. 9th circuit will uphold the ban and SCOTUS will refuse to hear the case, as they've done with many 2A cases over the past 10 years. The end of mag limits and AWB wont be for a long time, if ever.

>>34406412
Good luck getting anything firearm related to the SCOTUS.

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>>34400552

>>34401708

What are you talking about?

We have mag limits but few restrictions on rifles. The only stipulation to owning an AR is that it must have a heavy barrel.

>>34408447
DOOR STUCK

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>>34400495

>>34400495
I thought Cali already had laws against 10+ round mags in their state?

>>34415284
No purchase, sale, import, or manufacture, but ownership is okay. This law was trying to crminalize ownership.

>>34403256
Why is there a picture of Feinstein? She's anti-gun, but she's a US senator, not a state legislator. She has nothing to do with state law.

Does this mean that people can use +10 mags at the range in California now?

>>34400552
goddamn man check your dubs

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>>34400552

>>34414057
they're not
they completely fuck the ergonomics of whatever rifle they're on

>>34414463
Kennedy and Ginsburg can't crap out fast enough.

>>34400495
that is until the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals shits all over this judge and reverses it
until Trump replaces a majority of those judges and appoints judges that aren't leftist activists and respect the 2nd amendment - it will neber change in this shit state.

>>34419908

A few years later, the SCOTUS might take the case on appeal. Based on past precedent, if the Supreme Court takes it, I hear there's a 79% chance the decision would be overturned.

>>34404716
than you're part of the problem
I have no problem with the government fucking with my weapon
cuck

>>34419908
>9th Circuit.
Why can't the Feds go ahead and get rid of this piece of shit already. I don't get why the 9th Circuit seems to get dragged into fucking EVERYTHING, even shit that doesn't seem to affect only the western states, ex. the travel ban. It just seems like a court full of people who hate Americans and the Constitution.

Also:

>CA State Attorney General saying ban should be upheld because the people voted for it.

Didn't see these libfucks using that argument when the gay marriage ban got passed by the people. What a bunch of fucking hypocrites. I bet most people didn't even know that there was a bunch of stuff in Prop. 63 that wasn't listed in the ballot description.

>>34400851
>>34401037
>>34403695

If I were a betting man I'd wager $100 that the SC won't take a 2A case in the next session.

Why doesn't the SC want to take a 2A case? Are they waiting for the old lady to die first?

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>>34403717
It's 1994 dildo
>be born in 1990
>have 30 round AK74 and AR15 mags
>all USGI and com bloc surplus
>if I ever get caught tell them my dad gave them to me for my 3rd birthday
>dad can back up

Either way the range I go to always has 30 rounders. Hell I've even seen a guy shoot a suppressor in front of Cali LEO. Most cops are pro gun as fuck and the only way you get in trouble is they tack on those laws to another law you broke

>>34420144

Kennedy would have to go too, at minimum.

>>34420144
>Are they waiting for the old lady to die first?
Lefties are afraid the moderates will rule in favor of 2A. Righties are waiting for more orginalists to take the bench.

In short we're in a holding pattern until either side can secure a vote they want.

>>34405283
This anon gets it. Will a cop handcuff you at the range for using a USGI mag? Probably not. If you beat your wife could she use that mag against you and now you have a felony? Most likely
The above situation happened to my father in law

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While you elites chop up children and start wars that kill millions . Fuck Off and fuck U all

>>34420144
Yes; besides what everyone else says, every conclusion the Supreme Court makes becomes precedent that can be used to justify any similar legislation, no matter how clearly unconstitutional it may be. For about a hundred years the unalienable right to bear arms belonged to states, not individuals. Individual armament was a privilege.

>>34420015
>It just seems like a court full of people who hate Americans and the Constitution.

Because that's exactly what it is.

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>>34403256

>>34400916
Would be awesome

>>34420548
>belonged to states
HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHHA
It never belonged to the states it always has belonged to the people.

>>34421691
I forgot the name of the case, it was in a thread a couple days ago, but no. During the Reconstruction the Supreme Court decided White Southerners could not arm themselves and form ad-hoc militias and they said the Second Amendment was applied to states. That lasted up until relatively recently, some time in the mid-twentieth century. You can say that's unconstitutional but jurisprudence is a thing in this country. That's why the Supreme Court doesn't take every case.

>>34421786
Inconsistency also undermines the public trust in the institutions of government and increase the risk of the State losing its legitimacy.

>>34421786
If you don't know and cant find the case then it does not exist.

>>34421826
It was on Wikipedia. I just don't want to start googling Supreme Court 2nd Amendment cases. If it interests you enough, you'll find it. If not, you're in the same boat as me but much more smug about it.

>>34421848
Are you referring to United States v. Cruikshank?

>>34421848
So it does not exist, if it did YOU would actually look it up to support your claim that it does.
Also using Wikipedia for a source if they cant supply one for it is stupid.

>>34400495
I'd call it more than a glimmer of hope. There's been unconstitutional gun laws struck down in California before, like the AB962 for handgun ammo https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Assembly_Bill_962_%282009%29

New York tried to introduce a background check and database system, like the one that's going into effect in CA during 2019. They put it on hold, because they simply didn't have the technological capability to implement such a database. Now think about implementing such a system in CA, with twice the population. Then think about how the first of the new gun laws are already showing signs with implementation, such as the revised AWB: http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2017/06/18/california-gun-owners-legal-limbo-assault-rifle-ban/

Hopefully all of these stupid fucking laws are declared unconstitutional.

t. californian

>>34421891
Can't be the one he's talking about unless he miss read it , the ruling for it made it worse for blacks and better for the KKK.

>>34421980
It is the case law that's regularly cited to make the argument that States have the right to create their own restrictions on Constitutional rights such as the Second Amendment.

>>34422017
Which is why I believe he miss read it, because it hurt blacks and actually made it easier for the KKK and doesn't seem to say anything about militias.

>>34416328
shes the californian senator you idiot

>>34422546
He's saying she's anti-gun but since she's a federal politician (instead of a California state politician) she works on federal laws, not state laws. Feinstein is a terrible person, but she's not much to blame when it comes to Cali anti-gun laws except for her social influence. She doesn't write California law.

>>34421891
I am, I hugely misremembered it. I took away from it that individuals are dependent on the blessings of their state, that the Bill of Rights does not protect one from federal, state, and individual oppression like it does now, and construed a false recollection upon trying to remember more than that. The original point stands that, as much as jurisprudence exists to protect us from activist judges, it can also empower activist judges if they can assemble in enough numbers to get a win. That's why it's good the Supreme Court does not take every case. As someone who responded to me said as well, measured use of Supreme Court powers engenders confidence in the system by maintaining the illusion the interpretation of the Constitution is held to a higher purpose than being determined by which faction controls the Supreme Court.

>>34420701
This would be a shirt I'd wear.


Seriously make it a bit high def and sell that shit, yo!

>>34424680
That ruling specifically states that it protects from federal oppression, just not local and state level.