Sino-Vietnamese Naval Clash imminent!

Nothings gonna happen. Cooler heads will prevail among the big kids on the street.

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Here's the location.

China's literally sailing large parts of their South Sea Fleet infront of Vietnam.

>>34400259
Lmao the rice niggers have made it a bona fide tradition of losing the the Vietnamese I don't know what they think would happen if they tried again.

Man, I hope Vietnam shoves China's shit in. Again.

>>34400312
You mean like how the Viets always lost against the Chinese in naval combat even if they had the superior ships?

>>34400312
>>34400314
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Paracel_Islands

>China: 4 minesweepers, 2 subchasers vs. Vietnamese 3 frigates and 1 corvette
>China wins by sinking 1 corvette and damaging 3 frigates with no sunk ship on their own and minimum losses.

A Russian-Chinese war can't come soon enough. Hopefully Chinese expansion into ex-Soviet countries triggers some shit.

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>>34400259
Headed there in February, hope it's a good one boys!

>>34401300
Literally no reason for them to fight each other. Especially not after Poutine has joined China's OBOR/New Silk Road initiative...

Russia will be happy to sell weapons to Vietnam, though.

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>>34400259
Good thing there is already a fleet in the pacific.

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>>34401378
>implying the Russian Special Federative Soviet Capitalist Republic of Vatnikistan will ever accept playing second fiddle to the Chinese.
>Implying the Chinese will sit by and smile wide in view of a country that stole a large chunk of their land in recent history.

>>34401474
both literally have no choice, if they dont want to get eaten by the US.

Russia fears that it is being dismembered by the West while China fears that it is being overthrown and contained by the US. Both need peace in their respective backyards and want a secured border.

China, for one, even profits from a stable Russia due to their resources and energy that would help China survive a naval blockade. For Russia, Chinese money is vital in revitalizing their economy.

Pride is being overrated. Literally no foreign policy decision was ever driven by pride. Only interests.

>>34401514
actually russia is kind of getting eaten up by china, alot of their weapon systems are being updated electronically by china.

the PJ-38 chinese variant of the ak-130 is an example, and the type 1130 another.

Chinese weapons look copied but internally they are vastly different.

Anyone can copy the airframe of a F-35, SU-27 or Lavi, few can make a modern aircraft from said copied airframe

And if china were to follow the honorable route of total originality they'd end up with oddball failures such as the Hal Tejas

>>34400314
>Man, I hope Vietnam shoves China's shit in. Again.
Won't happen. Vietnam is antiquated technology with a budget that could be measurably improved with bake sales.

China is self-building and launching current generation destroyers and has a massive fleet precisely to steal Vietnam's (and the rest of the SCS) lunch.

The only thing that would make any difference is if Vietnam were to enter into a regional alliance with the USA or Japan or someone. Which would honestly be pretty weird but I can see it happening.

>>34400345
3 "frigates"
they where small ww2 US vintage seaplane tenders and corvette is a US vintage ww2 minesweper

>>34400259
this isnt the first time this has happened..they fought at least one minor naval war/battle in modern times already..i think it was in the 90s.

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>some folks are born

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who the fuck is sino?!?

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>>34400314
one Type 055 can sink the whole Vietnamese Navy

the PLA south sea fleet is full of 4000 tons frigate

Vietnam people navy only have 2x2000 tons frigate with zero combat capability

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>made to wave the flag

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>>34405621
>Ooh, they're red, white and blue

>>34405569
They have some improved kilos and more importantly, a fuckton of costal batterys. Fighting that close to veitnam would be tough for China to come out on top, even if they sink every viet ship.

>>34405628
China have functional anti submarine warfare

and china cruise missile out range Vietnam Coastal defend system, and Vietnam people navy only have 2 K-300P


it is harder for china to keep air superiority though. Vietnamese Flanker are more available, though Vietnam airforce lack anti ship and cruise missile

>>34405656
>China have functional anti submarine warfare

Untested and without history. This is a wash because Functional =/ effective and we have no way to know either way.

>and china cruise missile out range Vietnam Coastal defend system

Mobile systems defeat this. You can hit infrastructure but when you are THAT close to the coast, you don't need those big ole OTH radars.

>and Vietnam people navy only have 2 K-300P

Not true, they have fucktons of P-5s.

>>34405698
>Untested and without history.

Yeah, remember the long anti-submarine battles back in the Cold War?

>>34405698
>Mobile systems defeat this
as i said, China cruise missile out range them

China's Kalibr clone have 500km range

Vietnam most modern coastal defend system only have 300km range


>P-5
you mean P-15?

obsolete, subsonic, they can sunk LPD or supply ship, they can't touch china frigate

China would destroy Vietnam. There isn't really a discussion.

But nothing will happen.

>>34405755
Nope, mean P-5. Subsonic is irrelevant, they have a metric fuckton of them. They can win though attrition alone.

>range

Is irrelevant when PLA ships are RIGHT off their coast.

>>34401514

>Literally no foreign policy decision was ever driven by pride. Only interests.

You mean other, than, oh, World War I?

>>34405766
>mean P-5
as equally obsolete
>metric fuckton

how much exactly?

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>>34400345
>>34405569


TOP KEK

China is the new USA!

>HURDUR China Strong!!
>Cant win against China

God damn Chinks and Burgers are the most idiotic people ever, both got rekt by Rice Niggers and still want say they won.

>>34405766
500km is not right off the coast

Vietnam coast is narrow from north to west

China navy can just cut off Vietnam logistic in center Vietnam with cruise missile

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>>34400285
>"assembling near the shoreline of HCM city"

no

>>34405792
both side claimed they won the Sino-Vietnam border war

though China won the 1988 naval conflict

Vietnam suck at naval warfare , their military is full of corruption

Is there any sea way or body of water China won't claim as territorial waters?

Vietnam is going to get demolished again by China. There ain't no jungle to hide in the ocean.

>>34405820
Is my paddling pool safe?

>>34405782
>how much exactly?

2 secret 4 u. They have been domestically producing them since the 80s so as much as they want, realistically.

They also have a range of 450-700km.

>>34405794
see
>>34400285

They are quite literally right off the coast, and Vietnams most spammable missile has the same, if not more range

>>34405820

The mediterranean seems still not part of the ever expanding chinese irrational waters

>>34405820
Seen a couple of chinks in blow up rings down my local pond, think it has been claimed.

>>34405847
>They have been domestically producing them since the 80
no they did not

>>see
>>34400285
those are not war ship, retard
they are coastguard and Fishing control ship,

and the sauce is also fake news

>>34405957
>no they did not

Uhhh.... Yes? They have been domestically producing the ss-n-3 for a fucklong time.

>those are coast guard and fake news!

OK. In the end the ss-n-3 has a range of 450-700km and is their most prolific missile of its class.

>>34405980
sauce on Vietnam producing shaddock or that did not happen

official sauce not some facebook page

>n the end the ss-n-3 has a range of 450-700km and is their most prolific missile of its class

still a early cold war subsonic missile. shoot them at long range give the ship more time to intercept them.

>>34406016
https://www.cogitasia.com/vietnams-naval-upgrades-likely-will-limit-but-not-deter-china-in-the-south-china-sea/

It happened long ago.

>>34406033
ok
good sauce

but don't expect they could just spam Shaddock and win a naval war because they can produce Saddock

>>34406054
They could engage and destroy PLAN assets with said missile, just because they have a metric fuckton of them.

Bring airpower with excocets and it gets worse.

I'm not saying veitnam can sail out to the middle of the SCS and meet the PLAN there, but they CAN defend off their coast.

>>34406065
>defend off their coast.
yeah, and China don't care about Vietnam coast, they can take over island and oil well

and cut off Vietnam land base logistic line

>>34406129
>China don't care about Vietnam coast,

That's bullshit and you know it. 500km off the coast of veitnam is the area in question.

>>34405494
It's South Kino.

>>34406500

I never really liked that Zombies map

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>>34400345
>a fleet of ships that belong in a museum defeated by Chinese warships
>this somehow makes up for over a millennia of being cucked by coolies

Keep telling yourself you're doing well chinko. We Americans had the sense to quit after one loss.

>>34407193
The difference is, China regained the control over those SCS islands after this and the other clash in 1988.

The US, on the other hand, only lost their men in Vietnam for basically NO gain at all.

>>34407193
Chinese minesweepers were also old soviet shit.

>>34407641
Riiiight, all of the successful R&D, all of the vital combat policy changes, commissioned officer live experience, and maintaining relations with the UN and what at the time was a country still called France were nothing....... Absolutely nothing......

Keeping your shit sharp for when you need it CAN be worth it from a strategic perspective, and it's better to work out the kinks with things like new weapons and munitions munitions, and the first helicopters when it doesn't count that much for your team

>>34400280
fpbp