Red dot or holographic? What does /k/ prefer and why?

What kind is an ACOG? Because I prefer ACOG!

>>34389275
Uggghhh

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Aimpoint makes superior optics to EOTech if that's what you're asking, if there was a good quality holographic sight with the same battery life and general reliability as an aimpoint it could be good.

>>34389275
fixed magnification scope i think

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>>34389293

Why is this site so autistic?

No I was asking which does /k/ prefer red dot or holographic

If I were to ask aimpoint or eotech I wold have said aimpoint or eotech? Learn to fucking read

I just want to know the pros and cons of red dot and holographics in general.

The Vortex razor amg uh-1 caught my eye

>>34389406
Eotechs and Aimpoints have been around for forever

the Vortex AMG has just come out and people are already unhappy with the brightness settings

wait it out a little to see if the AMG holds up

>>34389406
Read the last part of the post, holographic sights have shit battery life and tend to be less durable. An aimpoint PRO costs less than the vortex razor AMG and un many ways is a superior optic. The only advantage of a holographic sight is that the reticle tends to be a bit more crisp around the edges. If you ask me that's not worth sacrificing several years of battery life for.

>>34389219
I like black dot but can't get any information on battery consumption or a pressure switch for iron sights either.

>>34389406
Make up your own mind faggot. He told you red dots like aimpoint have better batteries, you useless cuckold.

>>34389522
>advantage of a holographic sight

Parallax. Go away and learn. Black dot kang here.

>>34389293
where can I get either for under $100

$200 max

>>34389219
i have aimpoints on the majority of my AR's, comp m2, m4, H1, they're all bulletproof. i've used eotechs and never liked them, the battery life, and the fuckhuge reticle that sucks for anything besides bad breath distance. i tried vortex sparc II, doesnt seem bad for the price, but i haven't banged it around much yet.

They are all garbage. Sorry I know that little glowing dots are kinda cool but the fact is batteries. An etched reticule is ALWAYS infinitely better. The human eye is drawn naturally to black anyhow.


SO WHY DO MIL USE THEM?
IR dots for use with NV you sperglords any other use is secondary.

everyone agree's aimpoint/red dot better
honestly in combat i'd rather have iron sights
quicker to line up a shot from carry position
aimpoint makes for much more accurate target shooting though

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>>34389568

Calling me a useless cuck when you're an inbred nigger who doesn't know how to fucking read

>>34389714

Why would someone choose a holographic over a red dot?

Does the reticle shape serve any purpose? Is there some advantage of a Holo at all?

>>34389219
>not using unlimited battery life iron sights

looks like the mall ninja turds don't have summer school this year

>>34389948
Spotted the fudd.

>>34389275
Prism scope

>>34389219
newfag here
whats the difference?

>>34389578
you can't, $400 +

>>34390010
my gun was $300

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>>34389966
>bu-bu-bu-bu-but i think yo-yo-you-you're one of those "fudds" mister!!
>fudds only use superior iron sights ri-ri-right guis?

cute you should probably lurk more you sad faggot

>>34389934
>Is there some advantage of a Holo at all?

parallax you nigger and all battery powered shit without IR is for larping airshitters and inferior to anything with a fine eteched reticule.

>>34389966
>Spotted the fudd.

Fucking airshit vidaya kid restorts to fudd as an answer.

>>34389219

Holographic. My eyesight is dogshit and I appreciate the larger reticle

>>34390045
lmao

my range has one rule
>Paper targets only
and nobody follows it, in the hundreds of times I've been there I've shot everything from clays to air freshener to TVs and I've never seen anyone get kicked out

maybe you should look for a different place to shoot buddy

>>34390032
You better enjoy your iron sights with your africa tier rifle then and stop wanting expensive shit then, tyrone.

>>34390045
>no FMJ
Understandable
>no 22LR
What?
>No AK,sks,nuggets
What?
>Short Barrel Rifles
Why?
>Pistol Caliber Rifles?
What the fuck? am I being rused?

>>34390157
It's a fucking .22 target pistol and I already have a rail on it

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I prefer RED dot if you know about what REDs im talking about

>>34390173
get a TRS-25 and call it a day

>>34390260
Oh great. The vatniks has arrived with their subpar vodka tubes.

I prefer the holographic ones, the dots are super clear and tend to have a wide FOV. Expensive as hell though.

I abolutey assure you that 90% o the brand name droppers on this thread think they know how to shoot with Iron sights or scopes but don't and don't have any NV to justify an IR dot or have an IR dot option on their look it looks like COD battery powered crap.

>>34390451
Could you try that again in English?

>>34389406
>red dot
Correct eye position and check weld matters.

and holographics in general.
>Does not matter but eat batteries.

BOTH ARE FOR USE ON AN IR SETTING YOU FUCKNUGGETS otherwise as lame as led lasers

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holosun is the way to go if you want a better eotech

>>34389522

The advantage of a holographic sight comes when you use it with night vision

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Collimating

>>34390484
I got an unbranded $20 chink shit red dot that seems to work pretty good.
The dot is kinda big, but for shotguns and pistols its close enough.

>>34389578
Neither. Really.

A decent example of either is going be at least 400.

Budget red dots dip below 200 but these are Chinese optics that will likely need an upgraded mount, which takes back to 200 or more. These are also budget optics that,while getting ok reviews, most reviewers wouldn't trust without backup sights.

>>34390646
nice obzor

how do you like it, really? is it worth the weight?

I'm happy with my Bushnell TRS 25.

I point the red dot at what I want to hit, it hits it.

I dunno why a hobbyist would spend $700 on an Aimpoint. You guys should set that money aside for retirement or a mortgage or something.

inb4
>it was a smart purchase
>what are you, poor?
>a cheaper optic would have failed me at the worst possible time
>disposable income etc

>>34390676
These usually eventially self destruct under recoil. Ymmv.

>>34390779
Yeah, i figured it would.
I bought it planning to build my own after salvaging the lense when it finally dies.
I took it apart to see what was inside and its not bad for what it is.
The whole thing is machined aluminum with no plastic parts, so any failure will likely only be electrical.

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>>34389725
I realize it might have just been because the Army only buys the cheapest shit they can find, but, after having to rip my red dot off my M4 because the inside was fogging up so badly I couldn't see, I've never really trusted anything but iron sights.

I'll use optics. They're fun at times, but I only really like them on ranges in clean conditions.

>>34390753
Pretty sure that's a photo off russianoptics.net...

>>34390646
They still make collimator sights?

>>34389219
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4NOykTwnZA

>>34390484

Im buying my first AR on friday and was thinking of buying that sight.

How do you like it?
have you had it long?

I tried a red dot by Vortex and it made the target look farther away.
Is this always the case with futuretech optics?

>>34389714
Literally none of this is true. The military uses IR lasers for NV applications.

>>34391325

i've had it for a while though i haven't gone shooting that much. i've compared it to my friends eotech and prefer the holosun much more, the eotech reticle is really rough and fuzzy looking while the holosun is small and sharp. the best feature by far is the motion-activation tho

>>34390314
To be fair, their lasers are better since they're much more powerful than what's available to us lowly civilians in the us. Reach out further in NV AND you can blind an attacker

>>34389219
1. They're effectively the same thing
2. Green dot is objectively better than red dot and always has been

>>34390480
Implying both don't suffer from some degree of parallax. I swear to fucking God /k/ as a whole needs to not fall for marketing gimmicks and get a high school education in physics.

>>34389578
Holosun HS510C is the cheapest you're gonna get

>>34390938
It has nothing to do with buying cheap shit and everything to do with you or another Joe not taking care of their issued shit and the army refusing to throw anything away. My company armory had a case of broken Eotech 512s that were 5 years old that never got thrown out.

>>34389578
Vortex Sparc. Find it on sale with 10 PMags for $200 via PSA

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My aimpoint pro is really well build it gives me peace of mind on a bcm upper for a hopefully fail resistant shtf weapon

>>34391362
Its tunnel vision. Were you shooting with both eyes open?

>>34391564
Get checked for an astigmatism, my dude. Throw a buis on with the red dot. Look through the rear peep. Does the dot suddenly look MUCH crisper?

>>34389948
>infinite battery life
>poorfag-friendly
>literally tens of hundreds of options
>co-witness for tactifags
>weight saver
>sturdy and not so damn sensitive

Im not seeing any downsides to just using irons. Good shit anon.

>>34392305
No it isn't tunnel vision. It was the glass.

>>34390162
probably no slavshit because they brass jew and dont like steel getting in their brass. my local range does this but after enough convincing and promising to police my steel they allow me to. I love the pissed off look on the fudds faces. Eat me, pre-diabetic elitist kiddy diddlers

I use a prism scope because astigmatism.

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>>34389293
>when aimpoint fags think being as durable as a child's toy is outstanding.

>>34389219
holo is best in my opinion. allows wider range of view, quicker acquisition through NODs, etc. red dot is nice and has it's own advantages though.

>>34391769
The parallax for a holographically projected site is the width of the viewing angle to the projected "distance" of the reticle (100m in EOTech's case). Collimation is way worse.

>>34392447
given that the gameboy was made in 1989 I'd say it's built a bit better than 99% of the Chinese shit sitting in Walmart shelves today.

>>34392447
made in japan

>>34392232
I'm aware the equipment is old. I've seen it. I'm also aware that people don't take care of it as well as they should because I've seen that, too. The point is still there. The rifle worked, the optic didn't. It's vulnerable to elements which often times can't be controlled, and which won't show a single symptom of there being any fault until the worst possible moment. The element which can be controlled can be removed.

>>34392425
No, I know what range those rules belong to and it's because the owners are literal inbred retarded hicks who think all commie made guns shoot 50 MOA and they don't want people shooting up their baffles.

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>>34393041
(actual picture of the range officer there)

>>34389293
Bet that sight had less thermal drift than an EOTech would in a day and night cycle in Arizona.

>>34392366
Did you have a 2x magnifier installed backwards?

>>34392445
Which one?
t. Astigmatism, too

>>34389293
Some people really take this stress testing to the extreme. I cannot imagine any AR and Aimpoint have EVER been subjected to whatever the fuck made this thing look like it was being held by a Jap while he was getting BBQ'd with a flamethrower

>>34390162
Why no FMJ? Aren't most cheap rounds FMJ?

>>34393256
A portion of the dude's house burned down and that's what happened to one of the rifles in it.

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>>34389219
Holographic, dat 1moa dot while magnified is delicious.

>>34392447

Old School gameboys are tanks. A lot of those will be running (as long as you can get a battery) long after the irriadated wastes of earth have spawned their first mutant. I still have the one I got as a little kid in 1991. It still works, my kid uses it now and then.

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>>34390045
A-a least black powder rifles aren't verboten

>>34389406
Use Google then you entitled little fuck
>Need opinions to justify muh purchase

>>34392447
basic computer PCB's are incredibly sturdy, they will operate in very extreme temperatures (both high and low) as long as the power delivery system isn't compromised.

>>34389219
AKA the anti astigmatism thread

>>34392447
>Compares an Aimpoint to an OG GameBoy.

Nigger you could beat someone to death with either of those and still come out on top.

>>34390775
I got my Aimpoint Micro H2 for 330 dollars. Sure, it's not as high end as the T2 but I don't plan on going scuba diving with my bolt action Sako nor do I own any night vision equipment.

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>>34390646
He's right you know

Yeah OP I play pubg too

wait till July 4th
keep eyes peeled for sales

namely for Aimpoint PRO or Trijicon MRO, both in the $400-500 range, both are solid good red dots, both are more than possible to come down to high $300 to low $400. For $100~ more than the $200 red dots, you now have something that'll last a lifetime.

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>>34390646
shit's good

>>34393200
Impossible to tell since he mounted it on a new rifle

>>34394759
This looks like a Winchester 94, does the brass ping off of it when you cycle the action?

>>34389275
That's a magnified BDC scope.

>>34389219
>>34389219
Retard here
What's the difference?

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>>34397174
http://ultimak.com/UnderstandingE-sights.htm
read up m8

>>34397189
Thanks

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>>34397138
They sure do, I'm sure there's a chance one will hit the scope an a fall back down into the receiver though. I mounted this shiny as a joke when I figured out a way with spare weaver adapters I had on hand but haven't taken it off yet because it's honestly kind of fun. Don't mind the rest of the stuff on the rifle.

>>34397207
top eject FTW.

My 94 is the far inferior angled with garbage wood furniture, but I love her so.