/meg/ - Military Enlistment General

>>34380123
was in last thread, posted this >>34374562
I've had two concussions before and I'm scared that they might not allow me to join the military because of it. A buddy in the marines told me he had 16 broken bones but didn't tell anyone and got away it, I asked him if they check your medical history and he said no. Can anybody back that up? It seems strange that they wouldn't check your medical record. It doesn't seem right to lie cause I don't want to get caught and then blacklisted or something

Shits got me nervous man.

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Are the Marines the only instance in American military where the Enlisted dress blues are superior to the Officer getup?

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YFW the Air Force has the highest amount of HIV cases of any military branch
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11362843

What in the fuck are they doing over there?

>>34380295
if the military sent hipaa requests to every hospital for every 18 year old trying to go 0311 they'd have a backlog the likes of which would destroy the armed services. what actually happens is if you go to boot and have an asthma attack, they'll send a hipaa request to whatever hospital you provided them with, then see if you had a history of asthma.

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>>34380457
The enlisted dress looks like trash compared to the officers. What fucking kaleidoscope-land do you live in?

>>34380505
My father always told me to avoid women in the military, this just reinforces that warning.

>>34380524
The red accents on the blouse put it above the Officer's, imho.

>>34380505
>What in the fuck are they doing over there?
Each other, apparently.

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>>34380123
>enlisting in the corporate army to fight for stock prices.

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So I got my orders today. I am an ET in the USN and I was told I'd be joining an MTOC out of Whidbey Island. Does any one know the associated NECs for this kind of duty? Also anymore information past it being a job where I get flown out to bumfuck nowhere to set up tents with radios in them would also be appreciated. There isn't a lot of info about them online.

>>34380123
I haven't seen this picture in years.

>>34380505
You can't just copy and paste some random citation from PubMed as your "source".
I'd love to see the report, but the publication you linked is from 1995 and does not feature the full publication text, so if you could repost it with the full text, that would be great.

Also, a cursory look at at a more recent article from 2009 reveals that the Navy has a significantly higher rate of HIV infections than any other branch.
https://pilotonline.com/news/military/navy-hiv-infections-already-high-continue-to-rise/article_c04b4172-737e-5350-9793-00cf7d2408d7.html

I'm really impressed with your obsession over the AF in these threads! Have you considered joining?

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>>34380559
>red accents
This isn't a Mighty Ducks film, red/black don't look good.

Observe this picture. Restrained. Classic. Conservative. Nothing garish about it. This isn't an F-350 covered in chrome accents you found in the Autozone, this is the 50's era Aston Martin that still commands top dollar at the Concours.

Is it better to enlist or do I have a good shot to being a ranger through ROTC?

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>>34380659
>from 1995

Here is one from 2011.
Epidemiology of HIV among US Air Force Military Personnel, 1996–2011
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4427109/

Air Force leading the way with AIDS and AIDS accessories. Pic related is a fun read for anyone willing to reverse Google image search.

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>>34380666
>red/black don't look good
That's where you're wrong, Satan.

>>34380704
From your source:
>the overall HIV incidence in the United States Air Force (USAF) is reported annually and comparable to that of the United States (US) military
>While HIV incidence among active duty USAF is stable, our analyses delineate specific subgroups for targeted prevention efforts.

Additionally, if you compare the rate of HIV positive USAF active-duty (from your source), and compare it to the total number of Department of Navy active duty, you will find that the Navy has a higher HIV-Positive rate at 1 in every 954 people, whereas the USAF has an incidence rate of 1 in every 1051 people.

Source for navy numbers: http://www.med.navy.mil/sites/nmcphc/Documents/health-promotion-wellness/general-tools-and-programs/Webinars/HIV-DON-2013-webinar.pdf

AB (Formerly TSgt) Gutierrez was jailed for years and recieved a BCD for his actions, and is not related to the subject of this discussion.

Care to embarrass yourself any further?

>>34380123
where the fuck is this picture from. someone in my office put up like 1000 of these

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pottery

is knee and back damage inevitable

Any anons know anything about Civil Affairs?
Also, advice for MEPS?

Which branch is the most gay friendly?

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>med read file takes fucking forever to get to USAREC, almost two months
>recruiter finally tells me he got an update and I should know any day now
>"the ETC note says it should be done by june 20th, I'll keep you posted"
>june 20 comes and goes, still no update
>yesterday get a call, "they sent back the result, but the actual body of the file is empty, so I'll request they re-send it"
>"I'll call you back in an hour or so"

>still no update

I know they aren't deliberately fucking with me, personally, but how fucking hard is it to attach a file to folder on a shared network? Is it just USAREC saying 'lol the internet fucked up on one computer so the entire station is down for the day'?

>>34381113
Whatever one you join.

>>34381113

Navy/Marines are the gayest
Army is the most transgender

>>34381049
No. If you're infantry then your odds are exponentially higher however.

So, what is the view on anxiety disorders, specifically generalized anxiety disorder for the military? Hypothetically saying that someone who may have been diagnosed by psychologists with said disorder. What kind of research does the military do into you, do they just expect you to tell them since it is a federal offense to lie (at least where i am from).

Posted in the last thread, never got a response so posting again.

So I'm looking to join the Marines but I can't find much info on 0313 training. I've heard that they do ITB with the 0311s at the split and then do LAV training after ITB. I have two close friends who were in the marines but one was an 1833 so he went to MCT, and the other went to ITB before they even had LAVs. Thanks in advance, and my ID may change as I'm on mobile.

>>34381357
If you have anxiety disorder, then the military isn't for you

>>34380667

If being a Ranger is your primary goal, definitely enlist with Option 40. The opportunity to attend RASP is not guaranteed as an officer.

>>34381369
0313 does MCT with the pogs, because LAV is pog. It's the 0300 series meme, not every 03xx is the grunts.

You'll do MCT, your school, then get a unit.

>>34381655
Thanks, that's what I heard a couple years ago and I wanted a second opinion. Another thing is that I was going to go to school to be an English teacher and I was leaning more towards enlisting because of the different possible MOS I could get that I might end up wanting to further eduction of after, as opposed to using ROTC to become a teacher but proceed to have a different job in a military career.

>>34381725

To be clear, passing up the opportunity to commission because you want to be "eleet ragnar" is generally a stupid idea, but it's your life.

Officers get compensated a lot better and treated like adults from day 1.

YOU BETTER TYPE AT PARADE REST WHEN SGT. CHOWDOWN IS IN THE THREAD.

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Ok, that one's pretty good.

Does anyone know when the Canadian hiring board for officers meets?

>>34381782
FUCK Jody.

>>34381767
The dream to be a ranger is always there but I was mainly leaning towards enlistment like I said because the job I'd have in the military would be way different than going to school for teaching and I was worried I'd want to end up pursuing that instead of education. I've been opening up the the idea of ROTC again though so I'll keep what you're saying in mind in the next couple months, one more question on that note is it hard for an officer to go to jump school and air assault school as well? Getting that red beret had always been the dream alongside heading to RASP so it's a big consideration for me

>>34381841

How hard it is to get Airborne/Air Assault is 90 % dependent on your branch/assignment. It's fairly common for officers training at a post with those schools to walk-on and get a slot, but that requires getting that particular branch in the first place. Same with enlisted, but it's more about MOS than branch.

>>34381866
Air Assault is conducted at a lot of bases, Airborne is only done at Benning or Fort Richardson

>>34381866
Appreciate the info I'll do some more research on the ROTC route then and keep it in mind, I'm sure I'll still enjoy the college experience at 21 after all and that officer life must be great

What do Navy personnel do during the other 6 months of the year?

>>34380123
>>34380123
WTF is the name of that philly cheesesteak joint at nearly every CONUS PX?

That place was truly a guilty pleasure for me, probably could have made 300 APFT (avg. 270) if not for that place, and excessive alcohol consumption.

>>34382042
Charley's

>>34382020
Each other.

Is there any way I could be in the Navy National Guard and the Navy SEALS?

>>34381370

delet this

>>34382159
>Can I be part of one of the most elite fighting groups in the world part-time

>>34382159
yeah once you do your active duty shit you could go into reserves as a SEAL

>>34382173

18x has a counterpart called Rep63. SEALs probably have something similar, but I'm not the guy you're replying to.

>>34380704
O B S E S S E D

Did the Green Weenie cut your crayon rations lately?

>>34382159
>Navy National Guard

>>34381683
Thanks friend

>>34382052
Welp, heading over to Fort Carson.

>>34381814
Me again

Does ANYONE know when hiring boards of ANY nation meet?

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>>34381150

considering they lost my SF-86 twice (once they just let it fall out of the system queue) so i had to redo it, then they forgot to fingerprint me (and I had to drive all the way to meps by myself to get there when they opened - on a school day - during finals) im not at all surprised,

I ended up just joining a different service lol.

Now im afraid of the incompetence of the support people, I literally had to learn how to do all of the pay stuff, and dont even get me started on the tendencies of medical staff to "loose" medical records

>tfw it happened to a buddy of mine
>tfw his record had it documented that he had cancer from military service

I called the army every day for about a month before they told me to stop calling (they told me they would let me know) but they failed to mention that they would not because i was no longer in their system. needless to say i did not join the army.

>>34382042

I remember that one , I hate their menu items, the images looked better than the food.

>tfw the only thing on base is subway

>>34382468
Nope, sorry.

>>34382173
The Army National Guard has two special forces groups with green berets (19th and 20th SFGs) that deploy pretty regularly.

>>34380123
at least there's no ketchup on that dog. show's he's a man and not a child.

t. chicagoan.

>>34382535
>medical staff to "loose" medical records
you sound like the cow-orker i have that magically messed his knee up on the last day.

>>34382450
Oh shit, all the stuff at Peterson's BX closes at like 6...

If Ft. Carson's is open later I'll definitely be hitting that up in the future.

>>34382612
>>34382204
I did not know that. I'll take my L in that case.

>>34381080
Nobody? Please?

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Anyone here graduate from Parris Island?

How much running would you say you did, and how fast did you have to be while doing it?

I've been told that you'll only be running as fast as the slowest member of your platoon but I want to go above and beyond so I can be Honor Grad.

I'm looking to go 13S space ops officer in the chairforce but I can't find anything reliable on the web since it was split from 13M missile ops last year. Anyone have and experience with the mos?

>>34382988

I can't believe I'm telling you to do this unironically, but /r/Airforce has a 13S as a mod I think.

>>34380567
>unironically believing this
I remember when I was 13.

GWOT EOD. Drunk. Got out in 2014. Here forcquestions .

>>34383012
>13S are redditors
>>34382988
Tells you all you need to know. 13S is for fucking redditors. Do you want to do that? No, you don't, so just sign the 0311 contract and be a professional sandbag filler/landscape artist in the Marines.

>>34383044
Also drunk here
Did you manage drunk life while you were enlisted?

>>34383084
So much. Even deployed thanks to a wonderful friends network and a shitty in-country moonshine still.

>>34382717

negative,

I went to pick up my medical record when transfering, and it was literally on the desk of some e-4 who set it down, then covered it with papers and coffee cups, after panicking for 20 minutes and having the e-5 tell me he could not find it in the record shelf, until i saw the guy and was like "he took it" that they checked his office and it was right there, they all just shriugged it off like it happens all the time, advice for all interested persons

>make and maintain a copy of your personal records
>always carry your records if you get the option (don't allow them to mail it to your next unit if you can)

>>34382159

you could join the coast guard then go SEAL, according to federal regulations, all coast guardsmen are authorized to attend all navy schools provided they qualify

>>34383270

I think they stopped sending coasties to SEAL school a few years back around the time they disbanded DOG.

>>34381022

If I'm remembering correctly, it was the wall art at a foodcourt innasandbox

>>34383286

dog was never disbanded, it became "D.O.GROUPS aka DSF"

I think that they stopped too, but more for political reasons "MUH NAVY SEALS NOT COAST GUARD SEALS"

>>34383323

I've observed that the Navy doesn't like sharing or borrowing from the other branches that aren't it's bitch *coughMarinescough*.

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>>34383457
>>34383286
>>34383323

Coastie here, can confirm no longer CG-> SEAL transfers, I dont know why tho

Other good programs are the WOFT (army) which coasties can go to, also nice way of getting instant e-5/warrant from civie job

The army also takes coastie e-5 as boat drivers and promotes to warrant for army boats

the coast guard takes army and makes them pilots

The coast guard shares with everybody, There were even some army airborne rated coasties

I have been to both several army and several navy schools ( i want to get airborne ) the host branch always looks at you funny because we are all just seacops.

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Looking to pick a trade related MOS in the Army. Can anyone give me the dirty on these? Are there any really shitty ones? Any ones with decent opportunities within the Army? Thanks.

-12N Horizontal Construction Engineer
-12R Interior Electrician
-12W Carpentry/Masonry
-12B Combat Engineer
-91E Allied Trade Specialist

>>34383939
Go 11B. Infantryman. Literally the only MOS worth going into.

You don't want to be 90 years old and tell your grand children that you were some POG BITCH

>>34381369
>and my ID may change as I'm on mobile.
go back to your containment board

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>>34380123
its a common picture from any AAFES food court up until...like 4-5 years ago. You can still find it on some of the less active bases. They knew.

>>34380505
Didn't a bunch of airmen get HIV because they weren't cleaning the laproscopes properly after surgery?

>>34383993
Combat engineers a POG?

>>34381866
Hey no clue if you're still lurking but I forgot to add I'm 21 if you think that changes anything at all

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Legitimate concern that I need advice with anons.

-Be finishing high school in half a year
-Decided to bring my life around, do something and set my sights on joining the Chair Force
-Have cut marks on different parts of my body because I was an emo little shit in the past
-But I'm passed that now
-However I still take some antidepressants and mood stabilizers
-How much will these matters affect me in regards to enlisting in the U.S. Air Force?
-P.S. I don't intend to become the stereotypical slut, I just want a career, do my job, learn a thing and get my G.I. Bill

How do I join SEAL team 6

>>34384057
It was still there in Kuwait when I went there about 3 years ago

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Could someone here explain what college is like in the military (probably AF)? I know you get tuition assistance and you can take online classes, but what's it like taking classes on-base or in nearby colleges? How difficult is it to do that with a your job in the military, under the instance you're not getting deployed constantly?

Also, what classes are offered on base if any? Is it all basic courses, or do they offer advanced classes in engineering, math, etc? I ask because I would probably want to get a degree in either or maybe CS

I am currently a poolee for the usmc and i got a traffic ticket for not stopping at a stop sign allegedly what do i do?

>>34384455
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>>34384383
you get 5k a year in loose it or use it money. You get unlimited CLEPs/ Dantes (test out of class and get credit through CCAF) the first one is free, after that its not. You get 1 free certification series in your career, so pick wisely. (IE, wanna get single engine cert as a pilot? They will pay)

As long as you job out and get your...fuck i forgot the name of the homework you have to do...but whatever...get your 5 level quickly, and they dont care what you do. They like you getting education.

Classes are both online, and in person, the schools and teachers literally expect NOTHING from you. This is both good and bad, if you are smart, you coast, if you somehow have trouble, people pay attention.

The easiest credits ever gained were at classes in deployed locations. The military and colleges work it out, you are going to school instead of jacking off, causing trouble, or trying to figure out how to violate general order #1, so they are gonna hook you up with education. This applies ONLY if you are a POG. You a grunt? Ya dun goof'd son.

I am telling you now, you go in, be prepared for a mutually abusive relationship. The military will TAKE everything they can from you. You must TAKE, fucking TAKE, everything you can get. Even if it doesnt make sense. Pencils? Are they free? yours. Random ass business ceritifcation? Done. Hazardous waste shipping class? Fucking DONE. Sharepoint class? Take it.

Why? It gives you versatility in the military, and out of it. Chances are if you have a skill, they are gonna want you to use it, and guess who is busy working on the squadrons website while every other jack ass is busy doing base clean up, marching, mandatory fun, or some other dumb shit? You. Because you took initiative to be a hard charging, highly motivated, Perfectionist with no social life. Follow that and meet with success.

Protip: the people you work with ARE NOT YOUR FRIENDS. Dont shit where you eat. Do shit by the black and white and you are fine.

>>34384455
Reschedule your court date for a day earlier, or a day later, in the early morning. Contest it. Chances are the cop never shows, if the ticketing cop never shows, and they dont roll out a TV with video evidence, guess who walks.

"To my best recollection I stopped" if questioned "I drive frequently, I cannot recall specific intersection in detail"

dont be a smart ass, dont say anything extra. What happens if you are found guilty? You pay the ticket the exact same as you would otherwise. You never lied. You had a lapse of memory.

>>34382988
You'll basically be piloting a drone and shooting down little green men above new mexico.

My med services are free due to my Native American heritage. My hospital is the one I used all my life, birth to present.
Sadly my recruiter was pushing too fast on med prescreen and I didn't realize I could list nothing at all ever.
Therefore meps/military knows where my entire history is stored, and the records are held 50 years. I obviously was rather partial in my prescreen and after the fact learned details. I have depression+trial bottle of welbutrin from 12~ years ago within those records.
Any way to dance around all this ?

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>>34381204
This, USAF is the manliest

>>34382942
>wanting to be the honor grad of fucking boot

there is no saving you

>>34382942
Nothing in boot camp actually matters. In the fleet no one gives two shits whether you were the honor grad or the shitbag of the platoon.

As far as running goes, you pretty much run everywhere in boots. But it's not an organized run or a PT run, it's more of a "oh you don't want to drill? Sprint that way! Now get back!".

As long as you can pass a PFT you're good. Expect to actually get weaker and slower at boot camp since the workouts are retarded and are just designed to piss you off rather than make you a better athlete.

-Graduated boot camp 2009, ask me anything

>>34384318
Stay out you fucking cunt bitch. I don't give a fuck about the kid who experiemented with pot or the one who was diagnosed with ADD 10 years ago but fuck if I ever have to stand next to a cutter. Go cut yourself to death.

>>34384892
try a rain dance, OK-anon.

>>34384671
Does this apply to every branch, or just the Air Force?

I was at the Marine recruiters today and I asked about the green weenie, rip-its and jalapeño cheese spread. Did I do well?

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>>34385750

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>>34385750
1. When you lose your voice, how long will it take to get it back?

2. Will recruits suffer irreparable damage to their vocal chords like DIs?

>>34381150
I had a med read take over a year. Recruiters were blaming MEPS, turns out they were never even sending it.

I wish there was a way to get this fuckers in trouble for taking so much time out of my life. Hard not to get bitter over it.

>>34384318
it's highly likely they will not allow you in if you have record of antidepressants or a history of self harm. sorry anon.

haha the military is gay

>>34386784
hey baby ;)

>>34381782
KEK
so true

Reminder not to enlist if you have a gf/wife

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hey /k/
just graduated from college with a bachelors
thinking about joining Air National Guard to get my pilot license ... thoughts?

>>34386939

It's the right choice to do ANG or AFR if you want to pilot without all of the queep.

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>>34381034

best SeaBee rank in the Navy?

>>34386052
I was being serious about this. Did I make an ass of myself?

>>34386110

>When you lose your voice, how long will it take to get it back?

Usually comes back fairly quickly. Everyone lost their voice the first week and were usually fine by the third week. You'll probably get sick and lose it again though.

>Will recruits suffer irreparable damage to their vocal chords like DIs?

No, and if that is a concern then kindly find another branch to serve in.

>>34387831
I ask because my MOS is in public broadcasting which, you know, kinda requires you to be able to speak clearly.

Thanks for your answers.

When do they drug test you, before during or after the ASVAB.

Do i have to get my wisdom teeth removed before joining the military?

>>34387676
Of course, why do you even have to ask?

>>34387676
>Did I make an ass of myself?

Think about it like this.

In your life, have you ever had an in-joke among a couple of your friends, and someone who wasn't within this circle attempted to fit in by using it out of context because they aren't in on the in-joke and you thought they were a fucking weirdo?

That's you right now. That's exactly what you just did.

Or if you're under 25: You know how you use a meme a lot within a specific conversation space, it starts to lose it's punch, but then some new fag shows up and starts throwing the meme around trying to fit in and you think they're a complete shit cunt faggot?

>>34388147
>When do they drug test you, before during or after the ASVAB.

I took a piss test at MEPS, but I also took the ASVAB in high school so I didn't have to do it when I enlisted. Also you'll likely do multiple piss tests while you're in any time you come back from leave, any time someone gets caught with drugs, or pretty much whenever the fuck your chain of command feels like it. Which can range between only when necessary to 100% urinalysis every other week.

>>34381034
Seems like perfect grunt material to me

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So I should lie my ass off right?

I got a bullshit ADHD and later Depression diagnosis because my mom is a retard that constantly took me to doctors looking for shit wrong with me. I haven't taken my ADHD or Depression meds in at least 4 years, should I be good and just pretend it never happened?

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>>34386052
>>34387676
>be recruiter
>love my Marine Corps, served 8 years, re-upped for another 4 because I take pride in being the first contact that poolees have with the Marine Corps
>in comes this kid who smells of pepperoni and underarm
>plops down in my chair
>refuses to make eye contact
>he asks me about green colored penises, some rip curl thing, and something about nacho cheese
>gets up before I can answer, lets out a gigantic fart, and runs towards the door
>trips on his untied shoelances
>everyone around me is staring
>mfw the entire time

MEPS in two days
Got an ingrown toenail yesterday
Will they DQ me for that? make me wait six months?
Shitting bricks

>>34388178
>>34388254
>>34388425
In my defense I told him I was researching about the Marines and these terms came up in my research so I decided to ask about it.

>>34388438
It dosen't hurt or anything, but there's a bit of redness and swelling on the right side of the toenail, it just dosen't look quite right.
One of my mates had to wait an extra six months and get second opinions from other doctors and shit because his "feet were dry"
Deebly goncerned.

>>34388460
That's... actually not a bad save.

27 year old senior software engineer here. No degree, worked for fortune 10 companies doing mission critical shit. What kind of jobs can I do? Is 35n the best out there for me? Is there a platform for programmers in the military? I love shooting, I carry a USP Compact 40 and I also take my Polish undefolder to the range every week. I'm not the worlds greatest but I can hit paper plate sized targets reliably with irons 100 yards and in.

I'm 6'2" 185, can probably do 20 pullups if I had to, mile is about 7:30-8:00, probably 50 pushups, 100 situps. I squat about 285.

I wanted to be a naval aviator as a kid but but wrote myself off.

What options are there for me to serve my country and how can I do the most?

>>34388500
NSA/DIA/DISA/Contractor.

Your kind of skills are much better served in a non-uniformed position. There are enlisted programmer slots, but they are kinda hard to come by and you would be leagues ahead of the stuff you do there.

If you go work for an intel agency, and have skill, you'll be doing some cool stuff.

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>>34380123
>studying for the asvab
>not too worried about the math section since I've taken college level math
>try a practice test online and get an easy perfect score
>learn that i'm not aloud to use a calculator on the asvab
>try the practice test again and realize i have no clue how to do basic math without a calculator since I haven't had to since grade school.
Where do I relearn this shit? Am I fucked?

>>34388547
Khan Academy

Also, one of my questions on the asvab was "What's 5x=30?"

You'll be fine.

>>34388547
Long division, add, subtract, multiply double and triple digit numbers without calculator. Should be all you need.

>>34388367
Yeah. 4 years is definitely long enough. Obviously don't bring it up, but you'll be A-okay.

>>34388438
I have seen MEPs not temp dq someone. They will tell you to come back when its fixed.

>>34388796
That's... sort of a relief
If I reserved an MOS the week before and they tell me to come back later, that reservation is gone with the wind, yeah?

>>34380592
Holy shit that's the windiest island I've ever set foot on. The wind kept knocking the fucking power out! Lord knows why they keep a billion F18Gs parked out there. Donno how they aren't flipping over!

t. C17 Loadmaster

>>34388500


Pretty much any military job that will gainfully use your programming skills will have you shoot like once every 2 years and won't really care about your physical fitness.

>>34380592
>Whidbey Island
mah nigga.
south side of the island is hippies, chainsaw artists, glassblowers, faggots, etc. Would not recommend. There's a gigantic indoor range being built by Oak Harbor, supposedly it's going to be the best shit ever.

>>34388500
Certain intelligence jobs. Not exactly programming related, but you've proven that you can work with large companies and have a proven record of pressured work.

Probably the only thing left outside of the real rooty tooty stuff where you'll be taken on result and ability. If you've got that kind of experience they'll snap you up. Go with whoever is paying the most out of the armed services.

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So I'm going to go join the French Foreign Legion next year because the US military doesn't want me (don't feel like explaining the full details, but I was perm disqualified for some medical/medicine bullshit in high school that doesn't even affect my performance). I know they tend to ask you why you didn't join your home country's military, what should I tell them?I obviously can't say "oh yeah, I was medically DQ'd." What's a good excuse?

>>34389085
You fell out with your family and left your home town with nothing but a plane ticket and an idea.

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Why does everyone who joins the army look like they have autism

>>34389227
Because 90% of them do actually have autism.

>>34389227
They're just young guys. They won't look like that when they're finished.

>>34389227

That's just how young dudes look.

>>34388812
Yeah pretty much, your temporary reservation is good for 7 days and if you dont sign the contract within those seven days the job and what ever bonus you had with it(if there was one at all) goes right back out into the system for someone else. What im gonna tell you to do is look at any sort of remedy you can to make that shit look a least shitty as possible and hope it doesnt get noticed. Best of luck man.

>>34389227
Because most of us have the tism

>>34389314
Is it mandatory to get your wisdom teeth removed before joining the military?

>>34389319
No i had all four of mine before I joined they just hadnt ruptured. Honestly in all my time doing this shit job I have never asked anyone about thier wisdom teeth nor had anyone get kicked back from MEPs for teeth shit.

>>34389319
>Is it mandatory to get your wisdom teeth removed before joining the military?

No. Army paid for mine to get taken out.

>>34388906
>Go with whoever is paying the most out of the armed services.

Anon, enlisted pay schedule is the same for every branch.

>>34388873
>Pretty much any military job that will gainfully use your programming skills will have you shoot like once every 2 years and won't really care about your physical fitness.

So literally zero of them. Even in POG units that have actual jobs to do while CONUS your career is tied to your range qual and your PT test. You won't get booted for not being able to shoot but you will get booted for hav

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Can anyone tell me how hard the process is to go from army to coastie what is the training consist of and do i have to demote myself when i switch and what mos's should i take a look at?

>>34389342
What about permanent retainers? I've heard you have to get it removed before basic or else you can't join, and I have a permanent retainer behind my bottom teeth.

Which branch is best to join for careers in the intelligence field?

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Who are some of the BEST people to ask for advice?

So far I've noticed:
>Recruiters will lie to meet quotas
>Guys who are just about to get out are still too jaded
>Older men who have been out for years look back on their service with fondness

Who is actually a good source of unbiased information?

>>34390033
Were all of those fags enlisted?

>>34390083
They usually are.

They're the ones who are swabbing shit saying "Man, I fucking hate this place" and then 20 years later their house is adorned with emblems from their branch of service. They're also usually the ones telling the younger crowd that "You've GOT to join my branch!"

>>34389603
Yes perm retainers are looked at the same a braces you can join with them but they must be removed prior to shipping

>>34390033
>recruiters will lie to meet quotas
Very true dude. When i first started this shit I would sell this shit the best i could so i could save my career from being sunk by the career recruiters above me. Then after about three months I learned how to become untouchable as a detailed recruiter and now I give 0 fucks if someone joins or not.

I can tell you my story of my small slice of this dog and pony show but thats about it.

Do your research before you ever talk to a recruiter. Here is a pretty good place to start desu but is hardly the best source of information.


>guys who are still in are jaded
Yes and no some dudes can seperate the trees from the forest as a whole and some can't. Service isnt for everyone and everyones story of service of different. Out of everything in my time in being on recruiting has been the worst of it by far. But I know its not all shitty.

>old guys look back with fondness
This is very true. I go to vfw meetings and dudes talk it up to the point that it seems like the best deal ever when in all actuality it simply has its good days and bad.

>>34389377

Only the Air Force has an actual programming job field. Of the non-Air Force military programmers I know, most of them just flaunt the PT test. They won't get promoted, but they sure as hell won't get kicked out.

Of my six years in the Army, I qualified twice, one of which was in BCT.

>>34390170
>some dudes can seperate the trees from the forest as a whole and some can't

See, I'm the type of guy who can immediately get around the head games and put 2 and 2 together. I mean I'm not naive enough to think "Gee willickers this is going to be so much fun!" A lot of it is going to suck and I'm 100% ready to address that, so I'm very interested to try. This is definitely not a one-size fits all type of service.

>>34390170
Is the retainer thing just for basic, or the entire term? I don't want to need braces again once I get out.

>>34390170
>Yes perm retainers are looked at the same a braces

I'm curious about this as well, as my Gunny told me that it shouldn't be a problem since it's seated low enough for the mouth guard not to interfere. I mean if worst comes to worst I can just get a detachable one and then get the permanent one reinstalled after.

>>34390246
The best thing I can say if you decide to join is take it one enlistment at a time. basic training is the best example. 95% of the bullshit is planned to the minute. Once you get to your unit is when things get fucky. If you have a good nco above you, shit wont be as bad. But if you get put under a dick head who got his stripes because he was good at pt its gonna be a bad time. And for the love of god take the shortest contract possible.

>be me
>2009
>new guy arrives at the unit
>we start talking to him
>brain washed already
>plans on doing 20
>signed a 6 year contract right out of the gate
>uwot.jpg
>year and a half in dude is damn near suicidal because it was nothing like what he thought it would be in his mind

>>34390266
You can get braces or a permanent retainer once you are out of training.

>>34390301
USMC will have different reqs vs the army and vice versa. I can only speak from the army side of it

I took my test today but not the physical or signed anything, just gave all the info to my recruiter. I wanted 12b but there were no openings they even double checked. However I scored high enough on the test and i qualify for 18x (was told 18c is the same as 12b, just SF version).
Should I go for it? It seems to good to be true. I was worried I wouldn't even score high enough for 12b but I got a 78 and all the right narks for 18x/18c. What would happen if I fail out of 18x?

Any Army warrant officers on?

I'm currently enlisted intel in the ANG on AGR orders. Always wanted to fly helicopters but my eyesight stopped me. Now I can afford lasik and have a chance at being aircrew.
My questions are
>will I have to go through army basic
>is being a WO in the army shit?
>do you get to select your airframe (would prefer Blackhawk or Little bird)
>how shit is it living on an army base
>how shit is it being in the army

I could also try commissioning active duty in the AF, but it would be a crapshoot between getting the pave hawk or the Huey. Getting the huey would be cool until you get stationed at fucking Barksdale or Minot

>>34390343
That's sad, because that guy is going to grow up and resent the Army and tell his kids "NEVER EVER JOIN THE MILITARY!" which ends up screwing everybody.

What was his MOS if you recall? Mine's a 5-year but it's for something I already have a degree in so I'm obviously very passionate about it.

>>34390381
If you wash out of 18x then you run the risk of being reclassed or at best going 11b(since you would got through osut in the 18x pipeline) its a gamble to be honest with you. 18x is a very very tough thing, dudes make it through but group is lookig for the diamond in the rough. Simply being good at pt isnt enough. Its a big choice to make If I was you I would say give it a week and sleep on it and make your choice after doing plenty of research.

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>>34386019

What he is talking about is TA, which is an annual allocation of bonus funds that are for enlisted and possibly officers to get free school, this is not the same as the GI bill. The only requirements are that you get good grades (C+) i think or else you need to pay back the govt, usually it is 4k-5k of use it or loose it money. the total starts over ach fiscal year, and you can use any amount up to the alloted number, granted certain criteria for classes

Several of the branches started apprenticeship programs, you basically log hours and have your boss sign that you did the appropriate time for "fix an electronic system/ weld a piece of metal/ repair a vehicle" stuff like that. Once you have 6000 hours from 500 task completions hours or whatever the division is for your chosen program, you get issued a certificate as a civilian electritian, HVAC specialist, or welder or one of a handful of apprentices.

sometimes ships and deployed units have go along instructors who teach 101 classes, but you can also take care of these through CLEP/DANTES (i personally recommend CLEP as it seems to be the most widely accepted, but its essentially the same test)

http://www.navycollege.navy.mil/tuition-assistance/index.htm

http://www.military.com/education/money-for-school/air-force-tuition-assistance.html

https://www.goarmyed.com/public/public_tuition_assistance_policies.aspx

There are also some loan repayment tools if you join with UNI debt, but im not familiar with those

>>34390443
My other choice aside from 12b was 11b. I want a combat MOS. I have an idea of what it entails so I know it won't be a cake walk. Thanks for the advice anon.

>>34390436
He was an 11B, his dad was in for 20 and he knew what he wanted and like a dumb ass picked a 6 year contract instead of the normal 3. I dont feel bad for him.

>>34390485
I am an 11B which is infantry and if you want a combat job thats the best option to take, but I am biased. Like I said do research on the 18x program and 11b. Make your choice then.

>>34390414

here is the page for Ccivies, if you get out prior to attempting WOFT

http://www.usarec.army.mil/hq/warrant/prerequ/woft.shtml

I did not end up doing it, but I had packet submitted, I was in line to do it but did not want to wait an additional year to get orders (the board convenes once a year) if you miss the deadline, then you are out until next time.

You used to take a flight aptitude test that could be done only 2 times max (i dont know what they do now) but you can get in if you have corrected vision.

Does the ANG pay for 1 cosmetic surgery? from what I understand you can sometimes opt for lasik as part of your career through TRICARE

>>34389314
Will do, been doing all kinds of shit to try to fix it without making it worse, seems to be better even since this morning. Thanks /k/omrade.

>>34389227
We all looked autistic at 18.

>>34390518
>went infantry for 6 years
Yeah he had it coming.

>>34390414

Cont.

Your need to go through army basic

because you need to be an e5 to get commissioned for OCS you get automatic bump to E5

many of these guys try to lateral to the coast guard after tour complete in the army

You get an air frame based on choice and class ranking as per a buddy who just went through. Aptitude plays a role in this, also having experience in a field is usefull.

army base life is meh, but officers get treated slightly better, especially the aviators , they get some of the best treatment in the army

im not in the army, but every time i went to their bases, it seemed like they had guidance on everything, can anybody plz explain the red yellow green food thing for the army, I always just go for the red, cus YOLO

>>34390557
Awesome man keep it up

>>34390572
Exactly I love being infantry and will do it as long as I can but doing 6 out of the gate is a rookie fuckin move

>>34390618
Was he one of those "I don’t give a fuck what my job is, just get me on the bus" types? Because those often have a terrible time too I hear.

>>34380123
>AAFES
I do payroll and a/p for coca-cola and i send so may fucking checks to aafes its not. even. funny. anymore.

Question: to what extent does the quality of food differ between the branches?

Do officers receive better food than enlisted?

>>34390556
My goal is to attempt to make it a seamless transition.

idk about tricare. Everything I've read says no, it does not cover lasik. Apparently there is a way it can be done, but its an extremely lengthy and arduous process and involves going to Lackland AFB for an appointment to see if you're eligible, then going back to lackland for the surgery.

Meanwhile, I live across the street from a prestigious Lasik center and I'm getting the 2nd half of my 20k enlistment bonus this week.

>>34390613
God damn it. Basic training is so fucking stupid. I went through AF BMT at 21 and felt like I was hosting a daycare. I cant imagine going through at 27, and in the fucking army.

I would probably be the only motherfucker dumb enough to go from the extremely cushy ANG AGR gig to active duty army.

>>34390711
Food quality typically goes:
AF > Navy > Army > Marines

None of the chow is bad per se. But AF definitely gets the best grub.

Any Officer worth his salt eats last.

>>34390711

>Question: to what extent does the quality of food differ between the branches?

Food is based off of the dining facility moreso than the branch. The best food tends to be from dining facilities that serve higher ranks, such as those found at hospitals and near major HQs.

>Do officers receive better food than enlisted?

Only the Navy still has "officer" dining facilities, and those are only on ships. Everywhere else it's the same for everyone.

>>34390745
Not sure how any other branch does it, but at least here in Colorado you just mention you're interested in corrective surgery when you do your annual eye exam.

They offer it because the Academy has a center for all of the cadets (Academy turns out almost all the pilots).

>>34390657
He was a typical red blooded young man the problem is his dad was old as dirt had been in 20 years and retired about a decade before he was born. So all his dad told him were stories through rose colored glasses. He got it all hyped up in his mind and reality fell way short. If you go into it with an open mind its far easier to accept the good with the bad.

>>34390711
>Air Force
Best Dfacs I've ever been to

>Navy
Has chiefs mess once you get above E7 and from what I've heard its not too bad

>USMC
Would assume its the same as army

>Army
Its food

>>34390754
>>34390755
Thanks for the great responses

>>34390776
I feel like you'd have a good opinion on this, I'm 21 and unsure if I should stick to enlisting like I had in mind or go through ROTC since it's not too late to enjoy the "college experience"

>>34390802
You're welcome! If there is one thing the military has improved in years it's the grub. MREs are still called 'bagged nasties' but it's more or a cultural thing by this point.

Plus I can tell you from experience that you'll be so starved and eating so fast that you won't have time to taste.

The opening post to this thread lists majority SOF information links. Is that what the majority of participants in this thread are interested in?

Is SOF more or less attainable for the average man than it is made out to be by media, recruitment, the SOF community itself, etc. ?

Is it true that recruiters will lie to you about everything?

I visited my marine recruiter and asked a few questions and this was what he said

When I asked if it's true its near impossible to rank above Lance Corporal in a 4 year contract

>if you meet all the requirements, you can be E-5 before your 4 years is up. You'll hit Lance Corporal around a year and half to 2 years of joining

When asked about the living conditions compared to other branches

>living conditions between all branches are more or less the same. The air force doesn't have any better living conditions than the marines and vice versa

>he told me you can hunt and fish on base
>he told me the average work schedule is 7-4 and that includes most job fields, though you could work 24 hours if you're on watch
>you don't need to get permission to leave the base after your work day is over
>if you're in Japan, you don't need permission to leave base and explore the towns, although you need to go with atleast one other person

When I asked him about quotas

>I'd rather have 5 quality marines than 100 barely motivated marines, only recruitered 20 people this year.
>continues to tell me he genuinely cares about who he recruits and won't tell bullshit because he's a father and wouldn't want his kids to be lied to and thrown into something they'd hate blah blah blah

There's more, but I can't think of them off top of my head.

Is my recruiter being genuine with me?

>>34382717
Loosing paper-work is part of their AIT/OCS training within the Medical Corps, an essential facet for which they must qualify.

Those medics go onto work in the VA as civilians, where they truly learn to professionalize the loosing of paperwork in comparison to their uniformed service.

In all honesty, my experience with the Army Medical Corps has me believing that they are little better blue-falcons than MPs.

>>34390908
Also

>you can switch job fields within 2 years of your current MOS as long as the field you want to move to is available. These get approved more often than not

>I'll be swimming in pussy if I join the marines (he said this)

>>34390755
>Food is based off of the dining facility moreso than the branch. The best food tends to be from dining facilities that serve higher ranks, such as those found at hospitals and near major HQs.


This. The Air Force still has the best DFACs, but the hospital DFACs are better than most of the other Army DFACs I've eaten at.

The Army DFACs in TRADOC are okay, but you'll never really know in basic because you won't have a chance to do anything but cram your face and run back out to formation. At AIT the DFAC wasn't bad, but it was staffed by contractors. I've only ever seen an Army DFAC try to give out literally rotting food, and it was a regular active duty DFAC staffed by Army cooks.

Other than AF/Hospital, the best food I had while in was in Iraq. The Al Asad Air Base DFAC was great.

>>34390816
What I will ask is
what do you want?
where are you at in your college degree?

Understand that ROTC means you will be expected to become a commisioned officer at the end of it. Additionally ROTC is VERY competitive so what sets you apart from an 18 year old who wants to do this?

If you want the college experience do it and if you get accepted to an ROTC program if there is one at the school you choose thengood shit but understand being an officer in the military is not something to be taken lightly.

If you want the military experience then enlist amd start chippong at away at your degree while you are in and decide of going officer is something you could see yourself doing. You are the only one who can make this decision for yourself and its a big one.

If you research and understand what goes along with being an officer and its something you want to do then ROTC is the route to go.

If you just want to do military shit and and try college later then enlistment is the way to go.

>>34390893

Wanting SOF is really popular with autistic teens, so it's no surprise that's what the focus is here.

SOF is a realistic goal if you can get into the military, but that's mostly because the SOF community is massive.

>>34390908
>>34390908
>Is it true that recruiters will lie to you about everything?
They'd tell you Led Zeppelin would play your graduation if it meant you'd do 4 years with them.

>When I asked if it's true its near impossible to rank above Lance Corporal in a 4 year contract

>>if you meet all the requirements, you can be E-5 before your 4 years is up. You'll hit Lance Corporal around a year and half to 2 years of joining

Depends entirely upon MOS. 03s almost never make it past terminal Lance.

>When asked about the living conditions compared to other branches
>>living conditions between all branches are more or less the same. The air force doesn't have any better living conditions than the marines and vice versa

AF has better facilities (barracks, DFACs) because they are the newest branch. Every Marine under E-4 is assigned a room mate while Airmen get to fly solo.

>>he told me the average work schedule is 7-4 and that includes most job fields, though you could work 24 hours if you're on watch

This is called Duty and it sucks. You're a security guard for 24 hours. Everyone does it, everyone hates it, it's basically a fact of life. POG MOSes are basically a 9-5 (or 7-4 in this case)

He's telling you half-truths. I don’t know if recruiters still work off commissions but they definitely get incentives to push more people through.

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>>34383084
Drinking is hands down the largest past time among the enlisted.

My first drink of hard liquor was at 7 A.M. the day after I arrived at my duty station. Company mate banging on my door until I came, hugged and welcomed me in a drunken, quasi homo-erotic way (prepared me for things to come), and then made take a sizable swig from the handle of vodka he shoved at me as I answered the door, still partially asleep.

Only got worse from there, nearly positive this is more or less a common experience across the branches.

>>34380123

He is right about the pussy. Blue Bravos are panty droppers.

>>34390908
>>34390955

These are all typical recruiter promises. None of them are lies, but none of them are as straightforward as the recruiter will make it seem.

>Promotion timelines.

That's technically possible if you fast-track, but it isn't going to happen for you.

>Living conditions

Technically true, living conditions are post-dependent, not dependent on the uniform you're in. If you're a Marine on an Air Force base then you'll get those accommodations. Except as a Marine you'll mostly be on Marine bases, and those suck...

>Hunting and fishing on base

True, for decent-sized bases with those facilities.

>Average work schedule

This is entirely job dependent. There's no real "average" work schedule. Lots of jobs are 9-5 office jobs, lots of jobs do nothing all day but have to stand around 12 hours a day aggressively doing nothing, some jobs even do shiftwork.

>Don't need permission to leave base.

True, after you're out of training your free time is pretty much your own. Exceptions if you're stationed in a foreign country.

>Quality over quantity

Bullshit. Recruiters want to hit their numbers. They need people that meet standards but they're not turning away fully qualified applicants so they can get a lesser number of "super qualified" applicants. He's trying to make you feel like a pretty girl.

>Cares about recruits

See above. He cares because it's his job to, but you're not friends.

>Switching job fields

Again, possible. Again, probably not going to happen for you.

>Marines get pussy

Dumb recruiter bait for horny teens. The uniform might help a little but if you pull tail as a civvy you'll pull tail as a Marine, if you don't then you probably still won't unless you change something (get fit, get more confident, etc).

>>34390816
A much higher percentage of officers will make it to retirement, compared to that enlisted class of the same year.

Note, however, that being an officer lends itself to certain personality traits, so you need to consider that before you make your choice.

>>34391083
>The uniform might help a little but if you pull tail as a civvy you'll pull tail as a Marine, if you don't then you probably still won't

Honestly, I've gotten laid less frequently since joining the military, mainly because my friend group is all military males and I work with all dudes in a basement.
Every time I go home it's smash time, which is probably due to me getting more confident and more in shape.
Not sure where to meet more women, since Tinder is filled with some serious trash.

>>34390711
im stationed at submarine base new london in connecticut. the galley is amazing. we get often visits from foreign brass and just last week a 4 star.

we had whole lobsters for lunch.

Which branch is the best for someone who wants to go into Intelligence?

>E6 with 6 years in reserves, 3 years of active time total
>Recently got B.A
>Debating between OCS and RC2AC
>Currently TAD; shitty CCC at home unit and current command

Anyone have any experience with an RC2AC conversion or know anyone successful with it?

Or anyone have a recent experience in getting a commission for 1830? I'm a current 3924.

>>34391219

College. Aside from that, whichever branch will guarantee you an intelligence slot (usually Navy or Army).

>>34391367
I'm in college right now, but not an Intelligence field major

>>34391367
What are the differences for each branch when it comes to the intelligence field?

Any RASP graduates in this thread or anyone else familiar with the Ranger Regiment?

>>34391528
Got a few buddies there what questions you got?

>>34381080
What do you need to know?

>>34384181
The only non-POG MOS is Infantry.
There are special exceptions for Combat Medics (ours is deploying with us as a 240 gunner) and Fisters.

>>34391717
Do you know any folks who enlisted 11x Option 40 and held college degrees?

>>34391807
I know one. Went to basic training with him. He's in RASP right now, actually. Enlisted as a Specialist.

>>34391385
>but not an Intelligence field major

Unless you want to work in S&T your major isn't really important.

>>34391807
Yeah one did the other ones that had degrees got them afterwards

>>34391748
Anything and everything. I've seen like one two minute video and know nothing else. I wanted psyop, couldn't get it, and went with CA instead because I heard it was psyop's cousin. I swear in in two days.

>>34391112
>>34390987
Thanks for the replies, so it's been the dream to earn the red beret and RASP is the goal if I get in shape enough by the time I talk to a recruiter. I never considered ROTC as much because I have no post-high school education as is and after hearing its harder for officers to get to RASP I leaned more towards enlistment, so I could learn a trade in military and go to school after if I want.

At the same time though, I understand how becoming an officer could be the better and smarter option if I give it the same dedication I would going to RASP, albeit with a longer career from the jump but I don't mind because I'd need the same leadership capability if I became a Ranger.

I've been homeless for the past 2 years managing to stay in decent enough shape so the free schooling isn't a concern as I could go for basically free now, and the possible enlistment bonuses were another sweetener towards signing up instead of ROTC.

I appreciate the advice even if like you said it's how I feel and my choice in the end, it's just nice to take a look at both options before jumping straight towards enlistment

>>34392203
Heard it was technically SOF, wondering if it's actually a bunch of hippy tier peace corps bullshit, mildly concerned

>>34392007
Do you think he'll successfully complete the course?

>>34392203
read a funny climate survey yesterday related to that

https://www.armywtfmoments.com/2017/06/27/civil-affairs-climate-survey-reveals-actual-feedback/

How do you become a part of SOT-A?

>>34392203
You will be talking to civil official such as police, government officials, and other influential members of where ever your at. You gather whatever information possible to present to command. You will also be acting as sort of a middle man in talks between locals and contractors or NGOs. the rest of your time will be spent on powerpoint putting all the information together in a legible format.

This is gonna sound soft as fuck, but how do I get better at handling being yelled at? It's so rare for it to happen in the civilian world that people rarely experience it, but I want to become somewhat accustomed to it by the time I get to recruit training.

>>34392538
The whole reason they do it is so you can get used to it. There is no way to really train for it, either you're already just a hard ass from life experiences already, or they will try and make you one.

>>34392496
That dosen't sound so terrible.
>>34392398
Oh fuck what've I gotten into.

What are you supposed to call the Drill Sergeants in BCT? Aren't you not supposed to call them sir?

>>34393351
dill sergeants

>>34383791
Hey anon, I have a bachelor's degree and I'm thinking about joining the Coast Guard.

What is your experience anon? Is it easier to become an officer as a civilian or through the enlisted route?

If I do go enlisted, I'll be trying to get the BM rating and THEN going to officer after some experience. Or should I just wait till next year when OCS opens up?

/bump

>>34380123
ROTC anons? I've been in contact with the recruitment officer @ my uni, it is a program attached to an even bigger university. Which means that I register for classes in a crossover type fashion. My date to register for fall is tomorrow, but the recruiter told me he will get me instructions for how to get the MS classes in August a few weeks before the semester starts.

Seems kind of shady.... I know it's along shot that you guys know what the fuck im talking about but what do you think? should I rely on this dude?

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>>34393390

What is your degree in?

Unless its in Intel, legal, medical or you are a minister (join navy then go coast guard)
direct commission is not a likely route,

The BM rate is alright, since you get a well rounded experience, and can get good leadership skills out of it,

for OCS you need to be at least E5 i think, which is not too bad, since you go in as an e3 with a degree, and make e4 once you go to rating school, and if you study hard it is feasible to make e5 in a year

Officers get moved around quite a bit, so just because of your specialty you would still go to different jobs that might not be anything that you learned in school.

https://www.uscg.mil/top/careers.asp

https://www.gocoastguard.com/active-duty-careers/officer-opportunities/programs

pic related are bonuses being offered this year, i think they are still giving out a 2k just for joining

I have looked at going OCS, and i would say better off going enlisted first unless you are young enough fr the academy or have a direct commission skill

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Ok, i'm tired of conflicting answers to my question, so somebody who has real knowledge please answer. People here say to lie about druge use, but I read on several forums that people who get securtiy clearances and too secret security clearances get polygraphed and they DO get asked about their drug use. Is this true? If so, lying would be retarded. The person in question may or may not have smoked marijuana once.

>>34395045
>Polygraphs

Stop worrying about these in 2017, just stop. They're not mind reading machines they're just stress readers at best, they can't even be used in courts of law but people still use these dinosaurs.

The first step to lying is believing your lie.

>>34392538
get into a competitive game tourny and once the game starts say hai gaiz its my first time playin

>>34395051
Thanks for not answering my question

Ok, so I want to join the marines. However, I realize I need a green card first. What's the quickest way of obtaining one?

>>34395114
Google it

>>34395067
You're welcome, enjoy the no-go on the clearance since you are incapable of just lying like literally every other fucking passing applicant did.

>SWIM SMOKED MARY JANE AND NOW IM SCURRRRRRED

>>34395045
From my understanding the majority of military folk who get poly'd usually only get a counter-intel poly as opposed to a lifestyle (the one that asks about drug use), that is if they get them at all.

The DOD is too lazy to poly every single person and dig into their past, if they did, they'd have no one left in service. I'd wager about 90% of the Marines I served with did something and lied about it.

>>34395145
This

stop being a dipshit, channel jack bauer when hes all hooked up to the machines in season 9 and they cant get a read on him.

>>34395114
What country are you from?
>What's the quickest way of obtaining one?
I'm going to go ahead and say that no one here can really answer that, given the fact that most of us were born in America. There was a Brit that joined the Army to become a 68W who could answer you question, but I'm pretty sure he's in basic now.

got my orders to be stationed at Diego Garcia

anybody been here or someplace similar? looks like its middle of nowhere

>22
>joining the Muhreens
>my father was in the Navy and is totally against the idea
>wants me to stay in school and finish my 4-year but has done nothing to assist me financially

Anyone have experience with convincing reticent parents? I'm 22, I'm an adult so I'm doing this no matter what, but I'd like to leave for boot camp amicably and without that dark cloud looming over me.

>>34395581
He probably doesn't want you to join because he knows the military as an enlist is shit and when you get out you feel like you have wasted a lot of time.

>source my dad
"I joined the military so my kids didn't have to"

Tbh if you can take loans then finish it up. Graduating with ~20k in debt for a good degree isn't such a bad idea. He's going to fight this but if you end up doing it and shipping out he'll most likely come to terms but still be worried

>source my older brother enlisted against my old man's wishes and went straight to Afghanistan

>>34392259
So heres the break down for being an officer in regiment
>you must do your time in a conventional unit first and be damn good
>you then go to rasp 2 and are selected based off how good on a leader and soldier you are

Its far more competitive than ROTC. If this is your long term goal then go for it but be aware its a long way to the top.

Enlistment in the other hand gets you out of being homeless and gets you some job training and would be the longer work around to getting your degree.

I was 19 and living in my car when I decided to join. Once I told my parents i moved back in with them for the few months before I left.

>>34395045
>pro tip
Dont get a job with a top secret clearance if you are afraid if a polygraph(which is rarely if ever used desu). I have a secret and never had to take a polygraph and general security clearances you dont need to do shit for.

If you smoked weed once you never smoked we my dude. If you smoked weed recently to the point you couldnt pass a test you got the flu and your ass needs to wait a month.

>>34395642
I have my sights on a POG MOS and it happens to be what my Associates is in, if that helps at all, so you could probably look at it as a 4-year paid internship.

I want to join the military and serve my country but my life goal is to become a doctor, which job in the military should I try to take and can I study while working? Should I try for a medical job or just rifleman?

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>>34395804
Not him, but I NEVER smoked weed.

>>34395870
There are Doctors in the military. If you're looking to join before you go to med school, probably 68W. Not much there as far as certifications go, but you'll get some decent experience and it's possible for you to see combat.

>>34395458
Bumping for this

>>34396143
>>34395870
Adding on, there are other medical jobs besides 68W. Like being an x-ray operator or shit like that. I believe they are all in the 68 series. They are more POG tho than 68W

>>34395837

What's the MOS, Anon?

>>34386310
What about a couple possible suicide hospitalizations that hypothetically happened when was 16? (19 now)

would I be permdq'd? any chance for a waiver in this situation? Looking at army or navy

>>34396233
Go ask a recruiter. When he tells you to fuck off, you can look into construction or 3rd shift warehouse duties.

>>34396162
Do I just ask about these at the interview?

>>34396300
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=68+series+mos+army

>>34396162
Australian here, are there aus equivalents to this? And what's POG

>2 months to go, give or take a week or two in DEP
>My three mile time continues to improve
>I'm nearly maxing out the weight machines in the gym on most of the upper body stuff and could already max out legs

Is the added muscle mass going to hurt me in CCT school, or is it going to make rucking easy mode?

>>34394900
im nrotc anon and cross town usually sucks. it usually works like you can pt on your campus with the other cadets but often you have to commute to the other campus to take the ROTC classes. so if the cross town affiliate is an hour from your uni then you have to drive there and back for the lab and the class.

>>34396359

Machines will never replace the big three compound exercises anon. You will need to do heavy squats and deadlifts to improve upon rucking. Have you tried actually rucking with a decent load yet?

Learn to deal with being uncomfortable and you'll do well with rucking.

>>34394987
>What is your degree in?
Criminal Justice

>>34396833

I'll start doing those once I max out the machines.

There was a time when I toted 50-80lbs regularly over long distances, but my hiking and camping loadout is usually more around 30-40lbs so I'll need to up that this summer.

>>34396899

I strongly recommend that you focus on squatting and deadlfting than just maxing out on machines. They will only take you so far and you won't truly build yourself a strong strength base by solely using them. Cardio is also paramount as well, do not neglect your cardio.

You also need to consider your rucking pace as a 17 minute mile pace is considered a "decent" pace.

>>34396941

Wait, that's "decent"? Kek, I am way overtraining for this shit then.

>>34396167
Public Affairs.

How much does initial fitness affect whether or not you get enlisted?

>>34397100

4341, right? Just be wary that not a lot military experience transfers to the civilian side very well and often certificates do not hold the same credentials that are needed and looked at by civilian employers.

>>34397178
Very true. From what I've heard, a lot of it deals with media management and stuff like that. But again, my mileage will undoubtedly vary.

>>34390475
well spoken. Also, do not forget that each branch of the US military has its own accredited community college. Best part? Any school that takes the GI bill is FORCED to take those credits, and your, in the case of the airforce "CCAF" degree takes any credit from just about anywhere.

The military WANTS you to get smart, be successful, and return to the civilian world shit hot and ready to help revitalize our economy.

My advice: Find out what makes six figures a year, and study it, even if its alien to you.

https://discord.gg/4Ujgdt
Since there isn't an invite link in OP's post

>>34395870
Should do some clinical 68 series job, like K, P, U, N, Y, L
do you want to specialize or work in a specific field? would help to know when suggesting mos

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What branch has the least weebscum?

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>>34397855
i'll be seeing you there champ

>>34395804
I admitted to doing it once and got my top secret. They really don't care.

>>34397855
i've noticed closet weebs in just about everywhere i go short of basic bitch forcecom in the army
try there

>>34398017
>>34397956
Well, I'm already enlisted Marines so, I was hoping to hear that. I guess what matters now is where I'll find the least there.

>>34398017
>likes DBZ
>closeted weeb
Shut up, normie scum.

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>>34398017
>closet weebs
I'll just have to be an open weeb to make up for them.

>>34398106
What branch are you going into?

>>34398061
Admittingly these aren't the weebs that have waifus or watch sol bullshit, but you'll still find dudes that you can discuss bunch of different animes with
except the older guys they hate weebs

>>34398117
the one you're in

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>>34398145
Well I'm joining the army, signed up for 35N. Will I be seeing you in my job area? I wonder how many weebs are in the intel field.

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>>34398181
shit, i'm going navy. well, i'm sure there will be plenty of weebs joining you anyway.

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>>34398181
If the NSA meme usage reported by MSM is to be believed, then there are probably many, many weebs

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>>34396892

that's not really useful for direct commission, since those are actually fairly common (at least wherever i have been) BUUUUT:

A criminal justice degree is useful in the event you want to do law enforcement, since you would have a better understanding of how law enforcement is to be conducted

Maritime enforcement specialists specifically fill the role of law enforcement (much like security forces in the air force or MP in the army)

But any petty officer or above can get the "boarding officer" designator, most commonly those are MK and BM rates, who fill both federal agent roles and boat driver/mechanic roles depending on what is going on on any given day.

BM go to training on how to operate small boats, but on cutters, they can qualify to become deck watch officers on large vessels, which paves the way for an enlisted command position (e7 "captain" of a vessel) or OCS.

If you are a BO, you can also use that to try to get onto a tactical law enforcement team and do some operating jumping out of helos or high speed boat chasing.

Alternatively, if you want to go JAG, you might be eligible for some of the legal field paths to a commission

>>34380123
What should I be prepared for when meeting with a Marines recruiter?

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>>34398583
getting told YOU AREN'T GOOD ENOUGH

the objective is to get you to say i sure am, where do i sign up?

they will try anything to get you if you are more smarterer then a bag of rocks

>>34398061

TBQH this. I wouldn't consider myself a weeb but pretty much everyone I grew up with watched DBZ, Gundam, Tenchi Muyo etc. on Toonami (30 years old).

It's not some secret club.

Does anyone know if prior service(6.5 year Navy E-4) can go through the Army WOFT program?

>>34398775
Well, I'm smart but weak. Going to the gym now though.

>>34395458
>>34396150
bumping for this again

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>>34398914

That would be a question for a recruiter, how old are you, and you might need a waiver

>Meet basic enlistment eligibility requirements IAW AR 601-210
>Be at least 18 years old at the time of RA Enlistment and not passed 33rd birthday at the time of selection. Age waivers will be considered on a case by case basis.
>No age adjustment for Prior Service Applicants for the WOFT Program
>SIFT Score of 40 or Higher
>GT Score of 110 or Higher. (No Exceptions)
>High school diploma. If the applicant has a GED he/she must complete 15 semester hours of college level courses
>High School seniors may apply
>Must be a U.S. Citizen. (No Exceptions)/
>All applicants must meet HT/WT standards IAW AR 600-9

>Any applicant that does not meet these standards must havee a DA 5500 (male) or DA5501 (female) indicating that the applicant is within Body Fat standards.

>Pass a Class 1 Flight Physical that is approved by The US Army Aero-Medical Center (USAAMC), Fort Rucker, AL. All Flight Physicals are forwarded to the USAAMC for review and approval. (It is recommended that the Recruiter conduct a timely follow-up to ensure that the physical has been forwarded from issuing facility to Fort Rucker). Any questions concerning physicals at Fort Rucker should be addressed to Mr. Garcia at .

>>34398976

3342553233

4chan thought it was spam

There is also a reserve program, theyu might not be so choosey

you would still need to go to boot camp, and then take the WOFT if you get selected, and there is an OBLISERV requirement

>>34398999
So, probably still a question for a recruiter, but, I got ADSEP'd for being fat, but in the past year and a half since I got out, I lost 100lbs, and am down to 163(I am 5'9"). Will they even consider a waiver for a former fat fuck?

How can I help my older-than-dinosaur fat-as-fatass non-runner brother pass his Army IST?

>>34399026

From my understanding that might be n issue of the "moral character" aspect of the requirements. if you packet clears, then you go before a board and need to explain why you think they should accept you. I have onlyheard of 1 person getting dropped at the board, and it was because he was dual Canadian and American and they asked him "if America and Canada went to war, who would you fight for" and he said Canada

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>>34399079

start swimming and biking?

>>34397139

my intuition tells me that it's entirely up to the recruiting staff

if you're about average in every single aspect besides fitness and continually fail to improve from test to test they may entry level separate you for "lack of motivation" or something

although that's just conjecture and I don't actually know for sure since I'm still sitting on a waiver

>>34399102
>I have onlyheard of 1 person getting dropped at the board, and it was because he was dual Canadian and American and they asked him "if America and Canada went to war, who would you fight for" and he said Canada
I think he was dropped for mental retardation, rather than moral character.

>>34398537
>>34394987
Thanks for the help anon!

Is there a age limit for enlisted? I'm about to turn 27 in August. I know officer is 31.

Planning to join the AF, I've got some light scars on both my biceps from being an edge lord, it's completely "off-the-record" and I've never been hospitalized for depression or anything, am I good to pass through?

>>34396356
People Other than Grunts

>>34399355
If a doc asks about it during MEPS, have a good lie ready and you'll be fine.

>>34399387
>good lie
Would, I was just doing it to fit in with the wrong friends work

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>>34399355
Dude, its the AIr Force. They are all spazzy edge lords who think someone gives a shit. You will be in good company. Bonus points for acting like a sassy woman whose "mad at Stacy for not inviting me to the party" (this is a real comment that came out of a real airfag's mouth).

>>34399400
Can they in any way be misconstrued as being accidental? If not, it may be more difficult to get away with.

>>34399458
I could formulate something about my brother doing it when I was young, both arms doesn't seem like an accident
>>34399451
Wew lad, I might fit in

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>>34399341

Age should not be an issue as far as I know, In fact a few people I went to boot camp with were in their upper 20's

>You must be between the ages of 17-27, (prior service up to age 29 and up to age 32 if attending an 'A' school) for Active Duty. (If you are 17, you'll need parental consent.)
Reservists must be between ages 17-39. Prior service personnel should contact their local recruiter for specific programs.

you should be alright, as long as you don't turn 28 before you join, also you can get an age waiver if you do (it just might be a little harder). The age limit goes up if you get a guaranteed job like MK/ET/FS/DC/OS at present.

Best of luck to you, if you make it, expect to have a little bit of a hard time, since you would be older, you will get automatic responsibility and make sure you are physically fit.

Coast guard boot camp more recently is the most mentally difficult boot camp. You are required to memorize all kinds of service information. The workouts are not really all that bad, if you are very fit before hand, you might even find it too easy.

AMA if you have any questions about rates or guaranteed "A" (i also know tricks to make rank faster)

>>34399400

you could say you were mauled by a liger?

>>34399566
>liger
good one, I think I'm just gonna go with "played rough when I was young on a farm" they're old and faded anyway

Are the Marines or the Army the better branch for HUMINT

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>Its an "Air Force chick complains about her thousand medical issues and the waiver she has for this and that and this and that for a 16 hour shift while you desperately hope you are mortared out of existence" episode

Joint ops need to be a crime. I have never encountered a human being whose very voice makes me want to die.

>>34399676

Depends on your definitions of HUMINT and better.

>>34399481
say you were playing with machetes while the adults weren't looking and cut yourself like an idiot.

>>34399751
unless you work in a males-only workplace, you better get used to it.

>>34400019
I'm thinking crazy cultist father is the way to go, say it was some cult ritual he was performing on me as a child

>>34399451
Oh, you're back! I was beginning to miss you.

>No name tape
Try again.

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>>34400148
Keep in mind, it's all just bants. Without ANY branch we wouldn't be as effective as a military. Take any of those types of comments on the chin and move on.

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