Found these oldbois in a closet somewhere. Can anyone identify these?

>>34361640
after you posted it to facebook? what do they say they are when you look at them closely?

they somewhat look like guns, im not completely sure though

>>34362116
If they are old enough then they aren't legally firearms

please post more pics of nothing important. dont take any pics of stampings or markings or numbers or anything. just more pics of stupid shit that doesn't help anyone answer your question, becuase apparently you dont actually want it answered.

moron.

>>34361640
Topboi is a Remington model 121. Bottom perplexes and confuses me. There appears to be no magazine nor ejection port. That and the and the lever loop's smol size leads me to believe that it's a BB gun. On the other hand, it's length of pull is a tad too long for a child with fingers capable of fitting in the lever loop.

>>34362704
STOP WITH THIS SHIT STOP IT RIGHT FUCKING NOW YOU ARE WRONG WRONG WRONG DEAD WRONG

black powder sure as shit counts as a firearm. check your state's hunting laws.

>>34363974
Black powder does not count as a firearm for transfer purposes, nor is it defined as a firearm by the ATF. It only counts as a firearm if used in crime (for statistical purposes) and for certain states' hunting laws. Some states lump black powder in with centerfire rifles, others have a separate muzzleloader season.

>>34365272
it'll also count if you are carrying it loaded.

>>34361640
So, you stole them?

>>34365512

Depends on the state.

>>34363974
Fucking retard, the ATF doesn't classify black powder rifles or handguns as firearms. Because OP hasn't bothered to tell us horde of chittering retards what state or country he lives you just have to go by what the dogshooters tell us.

Your state may vary.

>>34361640
That bottom one looks a lot like a really early Daisy BB Gun, if you bother to get other pictures of them might be able to identify it better.

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>>34365272
>>34366183
>tfw in NJ blackpowder firearms still count
>wanted to get a pretty neat little muzzleloading pistol off a guy I knew
>still counts so I need a retarded pistol permit
>guy sells it while my local PD takes several months to process my shit

>>34366199
Move to America

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>>34361640
Bottom is probably a single shot, maybe Whitney Howard?

>>34366311
damn, less than 2000 made

>>34366407
I was just going off the General shape, the image is a little dark to tell. Pictures/ a description of any engravings or stampings would be helpful

>>34361640
>>34366311

I'm almost certain it is one.

>>34363974
You're such a fag. If a guns' caliber isn't commercially available, it's not considered a firearm

>>34366147
which state(s) will let you conceal carry a loaded cap and ball revolver that would otherwise require a permit? or is it a finer gradation of firearm allowances?

>>34366563
>wildcat your own cartridge for your non-gun
but seriously, has that ever actually been applied to any firearm that wasn't already legally an antique?

>>34365272
>Some states lump black powder in with centerfire rifles, others have a separate muzzleloader season.
Where do breech loading black powder rifles fit into this?

>>34363952
>Topboi is a Remington model 121
Model 12. A very nice handling little gun.