/akg/ AK General

>AK Buyer's Guide

http://pastebin.com/YdEkhdva

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second for PKU-2

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>>34348976
Hot

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Magpul FDE AK. Is this a good looking gun? I was gonna make my WASR into one of these, the only thing the pic is missing is the cheap plastic FDE magazines I found l for like 6 bucks a pop.

Opinions on Flat Dark Earth in general? And why do people keep saying it doesn't look like an AK anymore?

>>34349017
FUCK I love the handguard on this thing, love at first sight. Ignore everything I said here >>34349034 what is it called and where can I buy it??

>>34349039
Just standard VEPR furniture

Does anyone have any pics of older AK74s/AKS74s/not AK74Ms with modern Slav optics? Like any cool Ukieshit with modern optics

>>34349047
Can I put that on my WASR, and how much will it set me back?

>>34349080
I dont think so.

>>34349105
Where can I buy something that looks like it then?

>>34349178
just buy the vepr furniture and see if you can modify it to fit. it won't set you back much.

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>>34348976
>>34349017
O B Z O R
B
Z
O
R

>>34349200
I'll fuck it up for sure.

New question: is an RPK stock compatible with a WASR? I'm thinking of different wood furnishes in which I go full on aesthetic with the stocks and RPK stock is high on my list

>>34349240
then buy vepr

>>34348976
>>34349017
>>34349215
Obzors are so ugly but cool looking at the same time. I like it.

>>34349288
Buying a whole new AK when I already have one for aesthetics only isn't a good idea imo

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PSO is where it's at
>tfw you will never have an sr3m with a 1960s pso-1

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Been away from /akg/ for about 2 weeks. What have I missed?

>>34349465
shitposting

>>34349465
Veprs ded

>>34349465

VEPR is kill

Russian production ammo is kill

Traps are gay

>>34349345
But then you have 2 aks for aesthetics

>>34349345
Not the same guy, but it would be objectively better than your Wasr.

Is an upper handguard necessary?

>>34349568
Not really, though it does help from burning your hand.

>>34349568
Technically no, but things will get pretty spicy the first time you shoot a mag or two and your thumb goes north. That's something I'll probably never do again.

>>34349573
>>34349581
How many 30 round magazines can I rapid fire from a wood furnished AK before it starts becoming too hot to hold?

>>34349520
>>34349523
So it is true. I saw it on TFB and didnt want to believe it.
Should I go buy a VEPR to sell when they go up in price?

>>34349523
>Russian production ammo is kill
stop spouting this bullshit meme

>>34349588
bout tree fiddy

>>34349523
>Traps are gay
Lies and slander.

>>34349677
Traps are pretty gay tho

>>34349719
Is that the Chiappa abortion?

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>>34349760
Why yes it is . I keep it in my sling pack I now use ,21 round mags to keep the profile small

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>>34349787
Neat, I was eyeballing one in a gunshop a few weeks back and asked the guy behind the counter if it was a K-USA AK-9 and he tells me.

"No, it's one of them Chiappas, it's a clone of the scorpion"
And points to a scorpion sitting right next to it.

mfw

Looking into buying my second AK. Ive been looking for a Yugo M70ab2 for 4-5 years and ive basiclly accepted the fact im not gonna find one. My lgs has a Yugo ABM for $800 whats everyones thoughts on this rifle? until recently i dident even know they existed.

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>>34350123
Come to Houston and I'll sell you my yugo Opap

>>34350179
Negative. Nice gun but no RPK receiver or underfolder.

>>34350191
But my nigga, that is an rpk reciever. Also undefolders are overrated.
>>34350179
>Houston
Ready for the rain?

>>34349034
What you need to do is get a century RAS 47 and put that gorgeous furniture set on that. 100% made in the usa

>>34350251
No shit...... that is a game changer. i thought only the M70ab2's had the heavy reciever. thank you sir. still want the underfolder but atleast now ive got a back up.

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>>34350251
Never ready for the rain bruh.
>>34350281
Let me know

>>34350324
Price?

>>34350359
I have a listing on Texasguntrader for 1000$ OBO. I got you for 850 for 8 mags and 240rds.

Want that barrel

http://www.theakforum.net/forums/35-want-sell-ak-parts-accessories/253577-wts-bulgarian-rpk74-barrel-yugo-m72b1-parts-kit.html

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>>34348976
Got my kobra finally for my F/A valmet, just waiting on the fucking rail still

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are both of these mags the same length? looking for a small one for bench shooting

>>34350496
Friends don't let friends buy tapco
http://www.krebscustom.com/products/24/Vepr-5-and-10-Round-Magazine-Set-7.62x39mm

http://www.krebscustom.com/products/213/USMade-5Round-AK-Magazine,-7.62x39

>>34350489
this makes my dick hard

>>34350506
thanks that looks much better. will the vepr mags work in a wasr?

>>34350506
was just about to recommend the arsenal mag, it's very good

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Someone say Obzor?

>>34350522
You'll have to do a little dremeling on the front but yes. (They have a built in feed ramp)

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>>34350496

You can also hit Bad-Element on the files up for some 20 round tanker mags too.

I have a 20 round 5.45 plum he made for me and it is a beast. A little expensive though but worth it.

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I was going to rip through a few hundred rounds this weekend but now that this fuckass ban is in place I don't know anymore.

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>>34350520
Its a suprisingly good optic for the price, downside is in low light if you have the brightness up all the way you get a halo around the reticle, but goes away if your outside or somewhere bright. Cant wait to try it on f/a

>>34350563

what ban? there is no ban on ammo outside of 7n6 if that's what you mean.

>>34350604
I like to feed my SLR104 Barnaul stuff (wolf, silver bear, SGAmmo's Barnaul cans) but I heard RUS is kill.

>>34350406
you willing to ship to a ffl? im in ohio.

>>34350179
>Come to Houston and I'll sell you my yugo Opap
How much?

>>34350608

no

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>>34350608
>>>>>>>>>
your're a moran

>>34350690
Cut me some slack Work has been kicking my ass the last month and I haven't had the time to sit down and browse anything.

Glad it's not the case though.

>>34349066
Pls /akg/

>tfw payday isn't until the 1st
I just want a new (to me) AK so much.

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>>34350741

>>34350611
Maybe. Some faggot who is interested in buying is supposed to be calling me back later today. If he says no then maybe.

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>>34350741
.

>>34350649
850 for you faggots on /k/

>>34350759
I think I've seen the video version of this, doesn't his optic fall off right after this was taken?

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>>34350741
..

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>>34350765
Yep

>>34350741

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>>34350741
....

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>>34350741

>>34350773
who are those guys

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>>34350741
.....

>>34350789
Ukies

>>34350793
That Vepr

>>34350793
Woah ultra rare pre ban vepr...

>>34350811
>>34350818
The real reason they're not imported anymore. Don't tell anyone I told you or they

>>34350802
Wrong, they're Novorussians

The scum of the earth

>>34350842
>that camo
>novorussians

>>34350762
I'll gladly trade you a bunch of random stuff I have laying around the house.
:3

>>34350855
Yeah its Russian Spectre-S camo, which is exclusively used by the LPR/DPR. You can also see the ribbon of Saint George, which Ukrainian loyalists do not wear.

Literally the only dude in the picture wearing Ukrainian military gear is the guy straightening out the massive neo commie flag

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>>34350842
what's wrong with novorussians? their flag looks pretty cool

>>34348976
pastebin says not to buy DDI, what's the reason for it? i thought DDI was g2g?

>>34350884
They're literal communists and Russian boot lickers who stole Ukrainian clay and killed some of my friends

They're just Serbs without the turk genes

>>34350855
>gorka
>st. george's pin
>spectre-skwo
>berezka
yes, they're novorossians. don't be dumb
>>34350842
ukr detected

>>34350899
>killed some of my friends
weev? why did commies want to copy the confederate flag

>>34350907
>friends with fascists

>>34350884
Not to mention their entire modus operandi is:

>declare a ceasfire
>shell a bunch of previously shelled towns and villages
>shoot up Ukrainian lines
>Ukrainians shoot back
>Oh no look the Ukrainians are shooting at us!
>declare another ceasefire
>rinse repeat

Sometimes they'll try and storm a village or parts of a city, get rekked, retreat, and call another ceasefire

>>34348976
Since Molot is kill, should i just snatch a Vepr 12 now?

>>34350919
yes
yes
yes
yes

>>34350913
Completely otherway around m8

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>>34350913
>muh innocent ukraine
>mean soober evil novorussia
.3 ukrainebucks in your bank etc etc

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>>34350919
They're only going up from here. I should have bought some 8 round mags and more 5 round mags.

>>34349247
Buttstock yes; Lower Hand guard no

>>34350927
>>34351025
What about Kalashnikov USA KS-12? Worthy alternative or American trash?

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>>34350919
sooner the better, been trap/skeet shooting with mine since 2013 with just a few failures to eject on the last round during that whole time
the BHO must be just enough extra drag on some of the weakest birdshot loads
through extreme luck, I actually managed to get one on camera

>>34350754
I love calling random people I never met faggots

>>34351076
First time on the internet, faggot?

>>34351117
I wasn't being sarcastic, I actually do it faggot :)

Century Arms m74 Sporter is the only AKs not banned in my state (well there is the Zastava M90NP), I've read that Century Arms has shitty quality AKs. Is this true? Im trying to buy my first gun and I want to get either the Zastava, the Centry Arms or a VZ 58 from Czech Point.

>>34351336
re-locate.

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>>34351336
Get the vz 58 dude. The Zastava M90NP are a bit memey and the Century M74's are shit

>>34351336
Get the Vz 58 for sure. The M74 may kill you and Serbshit is hit or miss

>>34351225
Akt needs to go.
Noice looking rifle.

>>34351225
What's that sight called?

>>34351420
OKP7

>>34351346
what happened to that guys gun

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>>34351585
It went boom

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Very soggy box of GT I found

What will it look like inside?!

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>>34351712
Top row shows no rust at all. I thought it was rusted near the rims but that's just lacquer.

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>visited my grandma
>found a box of ammo that I forgot I left over there
Nice

>>34351727
GT is the most A E S T H E T I C 7.62x39

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>>34351727
Bottom row was actually still wet but still no rust. Will find out if the primers survived shortly

>>34351762


The box is shit.
Im considering not buying them again because the box is so dumb and just fucking spills the ammo out. Fuck you GT. FUCK YOU.

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>>34351781
Aaaand no failures

>>34351785
This so much lawl

My case of 5.45 came with the shitty box design, but some people got good boxes with their GT 5.45. Also mine are 20 rounds. One of the best things about 5.45 is 30 round boxes...

>>34351785
I don't mind the ugly box but how they spill out can get annoying. I keep 500 rounds of it on BXN clips so I only really have to deal with the boxes when loading clips. but yeah I hate how they just spill out

dat purple sealant tho, love it

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yep. shitty boxes

>>34350489
lots of people say Kobras break easy and the battery life sucks

any of that true?

>>34351891
Probably, how much did you pay then weigh the evidence

>>34351885
Real hinderer or clone?

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>>34351930
real

>>34351916
I never bought one, I was asking the guy who has one.

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>>34351945
Neato.

One of my coworkers bought a 550 and I loved just how fuckhuge it felt. ZT's hinderer stuff is great.

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>>34351982
They are built like a tank but it is somewhat heavy. outside of work I usually carry either my case stockman or opinel.

Whats the best magnified optic for 7.62x39?

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I prefer to leave the ammo in the brown paper packet but remove the box.

>>34352330
Easy to say when your ammo actually came in brown paper packets, fucker

>>34352297
ACOG

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This guy really wants my brown plum.

>>34352349
I'm guessing some of the 5.45 GT comes with just sheets of paper between the rows? That's how all my 7.62 GT is packed.

>>34352374
Is it really though? Id be putting it on a ptr 32?

>>34352380
Of course he does. Tell him you'll trade him for any of the mags in that pic.

>>34352395
Kek. Nah im going to wait till he offers more money. He definitely has it.

>>34352392
Yep, mine is also the old shitty boxes where the flap wraps around and comes loose if you look at it wrong.
>>34352404
Wring him for all he's worth

>>34352330
Is it weird that I like to lay all of my ammo cans and crates out and just look at my stash? Every one or two weeks I update my round counts, at which point I'll haul everything out of a closet and line it up so I can admire it.

>>34352380
How much has he offered you so far? If you have no interest in collecting then yeah why not sell it and fund other stuff

>>34352469
I like to admire the mess of spent cases I leave behind innawoods. I'll often sprinkle lacquered 5.45 in places I know betas will discover them, like a lone timberwolf signaling his dominance

>>34352330
>he doesn't store his ammunition loosely in steel ammo cans
Fucking pussy

>>34352478
100$. I think i can hold out for more. I dont really need to sell.

>>34352498
I use steel ammo cans, but the ammo is stacked neatly in the paper boxes.

>>34352469
I've mentioned before that I keep a bunch of surplus Soviet AK furniture on the top shelf of my safe just for the smell. Combine that with canvas drop bags, ammo, and greased AK smell. When opened up the scent is amazing, and it never seems to wear off.

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>>34352498
The sound of loose rounds shifting is pleasing as fuck to me. Like ASMR but with ammo instead of people whispering into microphones or crinkling shit.

>>34352380
What's the middle mag?

>>34352785
Looks like a clear crylic mag.

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>lurking armslist
>see this
http://www.armslist.com/posts/6921937/tacoma-washington-rifles-for-sale--vepr-molot-rpk-1v-rpk74m

WHYYY IT'S SO CLOSE YET SO FAR CUZ I CAN'T AFFORD IT

>>34348976

What do the knob markings mean?

Markings for top knob is pronounced L for the down/left arrow and P on the top (I think)

And lower one is N at the top and V at the bottom.

Selling some shit so I can nab another AK.
How much should I try and part my mosins out at?
Does $200 for a generic 1943 91/30 sound normal nowadays or still too high?

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>>34353166
More flash and exhaust

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Was it autism?

>>34352380
>screenshot

>>34353166
>>34353228
Is this supposed to be showing something or

>>34353367
Tim is such a character.

>>34353367
He's a try hard like a lot of folks in the gun community.

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Today was a good day

>>34353166
>>34353228
I'm so sorry about your ruined face.

>>34353395
flash difference between GT and WPA, didn't show up as well as I hoped. The difference is really profound with a muzzle brake.

>>34353506
>that side point
How does /bad decisions/ taste? Also, given how high that fucking thing is, why don't you have one of those magpul cheekrisers on your abortion stock?

>>34353823
Eh, it holds a zero which is all I care about untill RS products gets off there lazy asses and ships me a new mount. And you probably won't believe me but the hight is absolutely perfect, it's got a natural line up to a mid cheek wield, could use a longer eye relief but again that's the mounting's fault.

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I want to buy an AK. It has to be a pistol because of legality reasons where I live.

I was thinking about getting a C39v2, but there's lots of talk about them wearing out quickly. Hard to complain about 800 for something fitted with all the aftermarket stuff I'd probably put on it. I love the look of the Galil brace.

Someone talk me out of this or give me an alternative.

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>>34353976
Is this you?

>>34354030
It's seriously shorter than a PSO, have you any experience with scoped ak's?

>>34354014
Just get a Draco of M85 PAP for around $600 (fuck that they're getting this expensive btw) and the galil brace for another $120. Unless of course you really want your rifle to kaboom on your for some reason.

>>34354108
*M92, not the M85.

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>>34354104
>It's seriously shorter than a PSO
No the fuck it's not tho

>>34354108
Should I wait for the price to drop back down to ~400? Do you think it will?

Hello folks. I'm looking to pick up a VEPR, because I've always wanted one but have been too lazy to actually get one. The recent importation ban has gotten my off my lazy ass to do so. I'm interested in getting one in .308.

>For most AKs you will have the choice of 7.62x39, 5.45x39, or 5.56x39. There are VEPRs available in .308 and 7.62x54r but if you're going to buy one of those you probably already own other AKs

This is from the Buyer's guide, and I do happen to own one other AK, and that's a pre-gone-to-shit WW 74. I'm looking to get a quality, semi-auto full power rifle but don't feel like dropping $3k on a SCAR17. I know .308 VEPRs have decent accuracy between 1-3MOA, but what else can you guys tell me about it? Are they decent enough rifles overall? Worth $800?

I would consider a 54r VEPR, but those are all sold out and I don't feel like paying panic prices to purchase one.

This would mostly be a target rifle, as I don't hunt all too often.

>>34354199
They're not going to drop back down. Draco's aren't being made/imported right now and the Serbian imports might not last.

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>>34350954
Coke hoer

>>34354237
Not her.

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>>34354130

>>34354237
>clearly not her
lmao

>>34354108
Also do you think a century PAP is any worse since they shouldn't touch the actual parts to be 922r compliant for a pistol? Like, if I'm not mistaken, they just import them and slap a logo on, correct?

>>34354292
>beady brown eyes
>retarded non-valid opinions
>chin weld
You're a fucking re-mctard

>>34354301
The PAP pistols are generally good to go.

>>34354237
Wrong amount of stars friendo

>>34354292
Ok gimme a sec then I guess

>>34354292
Post more cheekweld/chinweld pictures boys!

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>>34354329
Just 4u, Rakurs soon and I'm curious to see how it compares

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>>34354292
How'd I do?

>>34352297
I've been using one of those Primary Arms 3X prisms and its been doing pretty well thus far

>>34354662
I see you practice pyromancy. May the flames guide thee.

>>34349017
>>34349588
200 rnds

>>34354587
>That feel when I'll always have shit brown eyes and never blue eyes

>>34350894
>First run of rifles wouldnt fit any mag but magpul because the reciever was designed wrong
>second run exactor were made wrong and broke withing 800rnds
> known issues with US made rifles

The parts are good and they are made well, BUT there is a lot of small annoying bullshit for the price and Dave Fillers has been an asshole to people on the files

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>>34349017
beep beep coming thru lawl

>>34354768
I can't imagine not being a white blue eyed brown hair straight male tbqh

>>34354957
>brown hair
Dropped.
BLUE EYES BLOND HAIR MASTER RACE

>>34355030
>>34354957
>>34354768
>tfw have the same eye color, skin complexion, and hair color as Jensen Ackles
>manlet, balding, fat, and not nearly as handsome
JUST

>>34355055
He looks kinda jewish and ratty.

>>34355068
"No"

>>34354587
Are your eyes blue or grey?

>checking local armslist
>107fr for 800 obo
Fuck

>>34348976
>>34349017
>>34349215
So do you rest your chin on top of the stock when you use these?

>>34355332
>>34354587

>>34355105
I dunno I think more bluish but honestly I've never thought about it so maybe some grey I guess

>>34355332
The stock lines up with about the corner of my mouth

>>34355356
>>34355389
Thanks

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>>34354223
I don't know that there's that much else to say about them. It'll treat you right, other than dinging up your brass on the way out. They're worth the 800 in my book.
I'm more of a fan of rpk furniture and folding stocks myself. But you'll have to decide if that's worth hundreds to you or not.
Tulammo 308 is really cheap and shoots plenty well as far as I'm concerned. So 35c/r ammo after shipping is a nice plus, assuming the new sanctions haven't changed that with panic buyers.

>>34354737
Didn't know fellow pyromancers attended /akg/

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>>34355450
Ah, that's very helpful anon. Thank you.

I would definitely put some after marker furniture on it. As for what that would entail remains to be seen.

Something like this seems pretty damn rad without being gaudy tacticool, but some SVD furniture could work too. Or maybe even RPK stuff like you suggested. I'd have to shop around.

That's a nice looking rifle, anon. Thanks for the advice.

Does an AK type in .338 exist? Wonder how'd it perform ya'll

Could anyone measure the width of the channel of top stock tang channel?

>>34355592
No. But Kalashnikov Concern just came out with a .338 sniper rifle.

Picking up a '51 SKS tomorrow, I am excite

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Hello all again!

Anon from Georgia here! I commented a weeks back, asking of how to fix underfold to fixed stock convert, and it has worked well. Thanks to all who gave advice! Brownell sent the new coating quickly, he is a good service!

I come today ask about new rifle. I want something in the ak style that is short in .223. I have decided to pick between arsenal and saiga. I can not find similar arsenal rifle on US site, but it is folding stock solid receiver .223, it is the rifle in picture. My other choice is saiga MK-01 in .223.

I look for advice? Anyone have experience? They are both equal price of 1500 or about 620USD

>>34355880
Still autisticly placing those ak safetys

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>>34355976
Yesir

>>34355858
We can't have the Saiga MK-01 rifles in the US so I don't think you will get much feedback there. We can't get that Arsenal rifle either, but we have the SAM7SF which is similar.

The build quality on the Arsenal will probably be better. But really it comes down to whether you want a milled receiver or stamped. Also, the Arsenal folding stock will work better with optics, if you plan to use optics.

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Also got a tripod for the camera. Best part it was free.

>>34350611
So that guy didn't come through. If you are still interested in buying, I"ll ship to your FFL in Ohio, If we can figure out the logistics

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>>34356012
Not him, but if Ohio guy doesn't work out I've got a mixture of cash, mosin nagant, and yeti cooler in state.

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>>34355332
It's really not an issue.


So apparently I went to Saudi Arabia this summer.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-40395475

>>34356057
Was it fun?

>>34350611
where in ohio? just curious

>>34356051
>sell mosin
>sell cooler
>money for nice ak
>profit!?

>>34356088
Basically what I'm doing desu.
Got a guy lined up for $250 on one of my mosins, about to list the yeti for $200, and then going to figure out how much to sell my finnish capture tula for.

Should bring in just enough for me to get a nice underfolder or AK 74 if I find a good deal on Texas Gun Trader.

>>34356077
Yea, military guy on the quad said we could hangout on the beach but don't wander off.

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>>34356140
Nice. Did he have an ak?

>>34356180
That he did, crutch Maadi.

My mother today was talking about how she cucked the Saudis by swimming there without a headscarf or anything Kek

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>spot the Chinese man

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>>34356051
No yeti or mosin for me. But I'll make a cash and ammo deal.

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>>34354329

>>34354587
Sauce on that face cover thing?

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If I have the choice should I pick up a maadi SA or a century underfolder?

I really really really want an underfolder of any kind and I have a huge boner for maadis.
It's too bad you can't do both at the same time.

>>34356820
maadi

>>34356844
Can I make a normal maadi into a crutch sidefolder without drilling shit?

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>>34356577
Surplus Czech tube scarf

>>34356887
Yes

do all vepr fms have a goofy charging handle?

>>34357071
What do you mean ?

>>34356820
Maadi by a mile. The crutch folder installs on the standard rear trunnion, so you can go either way with it.

>>34357154
What if he wants $750 for the maadi SA?

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>>34357168
Thats not horrible. Maadis are good rifles.

>>34357168
Not great, but not horrible either. If you can talk him down to $700 you'd be in a decent spot.

>>34357119
theres a notch cut out where it comes out of the carrier

Is $1600 too much for an 1988 Izhmash kit on a Childers receiver? A guy near me has one for sale, and pricing it out it's around $1300 to have one built. Is there a secret I'm missing that would make it cheaper or is that just the price of getting a Russian build?

>>34357272
What barrel ? Who built it ?

>>34357272
What barrel, and who built it?

The kit itself is around $650 and the cost of getting it built is going to be around $700-$1000 depending on how the builder went about the barrel components, so that's not a bad price if the barrel and build quality is decent

>>34357300
>>34357303
US barrel, and it was built by Meridian Ordinance in KY according to the description.

>>34357316
>US barrel
>$1600

Not only no, but fuck no.

>>34357334
What's wrong with US made barrels?

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>>34357316
Id pass with us barrel.

>>34357303
The kit is $650 and Meridian probably charged about $750 to do the build (Mike does the barrel dimples correctly for '88s too). Factor in another $100 or so for the receiver.

It's not a terrible price for what's already gone into it, but the US barrel isn't as good as a combloc one since it's probably not chrome-lined and definitely isn't hammer-forged, and at that price point, unless you *really* want a Russian parts kit build from that year and don't want to piece it together yourself, there's better options for overall quality in that price range and below.

>>34357316
>goes through all the trouble to have an 88 kit built by Meridian
>uses a US barrel
What a waste. I'd pass. If the barrel was a proper combloc barrel that'd be a good deal

>>34357337
Nobody has made a proper US AK barrel to date. Bulgarian and Polish CHF CL barrels are readily available. A US barrel is just someone being really fucking cheap.

>>34357361
>unless you *really* want a Russian parts kit build from that year and don't want to piece it together yourself,
That's kind of where I'm at. Chrome lined doesn't bother me too much because I don't shoot any 7n6, but it would be nicer to have one with a proper barrel.

Would one of the Bulgarian ones from Arsenal be good for a kit build if I did a kit myself? Also where is the $750 number coming from? On his website he says he starts kit builds at $279 with another $99 for a barrel install and head space.

So I like how you can have authentic optics on AK's like obzors and posp's, but what are some good optics that I can put on a yugo NPAP?

>>34357393
It's coming from experience. He build my 1983 kit on a 74U LLC receiver that came in earlier this week. It cost me $637.50 for him to fully demill my parts kit and prep it for install, populate a virgin Bulgarian barrel, install the parts on my receiver, provide a US fire control group, and apply the Moly Resin finish wherever the original finish couldn't be kept (or was unfinished), along with a couple of other minor things I asked him to do, including headspacing and test firing.

AK builders are cheap right up until you ask them to populate a barrel. I can guarantee you that if you called him on Monday and asked him to build an AK from a parts kit in the condition the '83 and '88 kits came in, it would not cost you $379.

>>34357440
What's populating a barrel?

>>34357440
Also, I'm estimating more for an '88 build than an '83 simply because of the dimple work that he'd need to do for a correct appearance on the '88. '83 rifles have pinned components, which are less labor-intensive to install.

>>34357393
Yes, those would be the ones you'd want

That price comes from the dimpled barrel components on late 80s Russian rifles, they're much more labor intensive than normal pinned barrel components and therefor cost more to have built. Chimps and I are having ours built by the same guy and he's charging $850, reading online Meridian charges around $750 (but not a quote directly to me from them), whereas the same guy who will be building mine charges only $350 if I remember for normal pinned components

>>34357454
Populating a barrel means attaching all the things that go onto a normal AK barrel - rear sight block, gas block, front sight block, basically.

>>34357465
>>34357467
Thanks for the help, I thought it was only going to be
>Buy kit
>buy barrel
>wait for receiver from 74u LLC
>send it all to someone to have built for ~$400
>9 months later have new AK born in the same year as me

You guys saved me some surprises. I'll have to give '83 kits a look. A question about the '83 kits, is a side rail correct for them? I feel like it isn't, but I want to make sure.

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>>34357487
My 88 build is looking like:
>$650 kit
>$150 barrel on sale from KVar, normally $250 iirc
>$225 74uLLC receiver
>$60 fancy paint
>$850 build cost
As it sits with those numbers I'm looking at $1935, but that's not including anything I might be forgetting or any unforeseen costs

I also only had to wait about two weeks for my 74uLLC receiver because Chimps hooked me up with one, normally you'd be waiting at least a year for one

83s are harder to come by and will be around a grand (one sold on the Files a few weeks back for like $1200 is something), if you're not dead set on a Russian kit you could always get a Bulgarian kit for only like $400ish

Technically a side rail isn't correct unless you're specifically looking to clone an AK74N or AKS74N which were quite scarce compared to production of normal old 74s. I do not want a side rail on my 88

>>34357487
It's correct for an AK-74N, the models that came as part of a "complex" with a 1PN34 or 1PN58 NV optic, but some Russians threw PGO-7Vs on them as well. It's also specifically the RMP-3 plate you'll need. DFW Collectors Source sells them.

If you're after a more general issue look, the siderail should stay off.

>>34357526
You guys suck. I'm already pricing out shit for an underfolder build I definitely don't need but really fucking want.

>>34357567
Ask Daewoo when he comes around how much his underfolder build ran him
>Polish kit
>new production Polish barrel
>Nodak receiver iirc
>build cost was around $600 iirc
I don't remember his total price but it was somewhere around $1200 to $1400 I think

>>34357619
That's about what I'm guessing it would cost me, plus or minus a few hundred depending on who builds it and what I get done.

I'll be completely honest when I say I really, really don't understand why I want an underfolder. It'll be fucking neato to have a Radom barrel in an old Polish kit build and everything, but in in my mind I know the REAL reason I'm doing it is so I can aloha snackbar old electronics out on private land and then sit at home with a 75rd drum in it with the folder collapsed while I eat cereal and watch netflix.

I've been casually looking at AK's since I almost impulse bought a VEPR the other day. I don't know much about them and the guide didn't have anything to say about this.

Found a local ad for a "1972 Tula AKM." Says it has a Russian marked Nodak receiver and an unfired Romanian barrel. Doesn't say anything about it being built as a parts kit or anything, kinda vague. Is this cool or is this junk?

>>34357672
>sit at home with a 75rd drum in it with the folder collapsed while I eat cereal and watch netflix.
My '83 is largely just going to spend the rest of its at home kicked up against my couch while I play Titanfall, so I understand.

>>34357682
Ask who built the gun. It's definitely a parts kit build; there have never been any Tula AKs imported to the US for commercial sale.

>>34357682
I wouldn't bother unless it was a great deal and you were autistic enough to identify the barrel and build quality by sight

>>34348976
>want an AK
>live in a university apartment
>university rules say that you can have pistols in your apartments, but not rifles (constitutional carry on campus)
>only way to have AK is AK pistol
>need to find a good one

Talk me out of buying this Century Zastava PAP M92 pistol for $599:
https://www.preppergunshop.com/ci-zastava-pap-m92-pistol-7-62x39-w-brace-1-30rd-mag-no-krink-break

If I shouldn't buy that, what pistol should I buy? Or should I get an AK pistol at all?

>>34357890
>no long guns allowed
>create a shorter version of a long gun
>le ebin trole

is america legally retarded or what

Has anyone taken apart an obzor? I am curious to see how it's designed on the inside.

>>34358310
If you search around I remember someone posting a blueprint of one

>just woke up
>cat took a shit on the floor not five feet right next to the
>again
I think she might be developing dementia or is sick. She's been sleeping all day too, probably a good 22 hours, just getting up to eat/drink/ and poop on the floor ;-;. The only time she'll wake up is right when I go to bed, she'll sniff, pat, head butt, etc for a few minutes then go back to sleep. Fuck my dudes.

>>34358574
*right next to the litter box

>>34358031
And what can you own legally?

>>34358574
How old is she ?

>>34358605
When I got her they said she was about four years old... then she grew a bunch... so I'm not really sure, she's probably around 14 years old though.

>>34358606
bbbbllllyyyyaaaaaaattttttttt, AK-74M3 looks like THAT?

>>34358606
Anymore?

>>34358633

AK-74 M3 is a set of new accessories, conceived in the dark mind of the tyrannical unelected dictator Vladimir Putin to more effectively project aggression against international norms and freedom

>>34358629
Poor kitty, take her to the vet and have her checked out.

>>34358642
Retard

>>34358648
I took her to the vet three months ago and they gave her a clean bill of health. I might have to do it again and get her x-rayed.

>>34358629
Sucks man. My cat lived to about 15 or 16. It was fat. It lived a good life but towards the end it started doing just that. Took it to the vet and it had other problems as well. Major tooth problems which is why is stopped eating.

>>34358574
My dog pisses on herself somewhat regularly these days
Iktf

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>>34358692
That's not the first bitch you've had to piss herself because of you.

>>34358672
The problem is that, according to the vet, she's fairly healthy. I'd rather just have her put down before she starts having chronic issues but they wouldn't do that and it'd be weird to ask that.

>>34358736
YOLO

>>34358729
Story? Was this Chimps' oneitis or something?

>>34358574
>>cat took a shit on the floor not five feet right next to the
>>again
lol idk if that's dementia

More details are needed before I'm concerned, but sleeping for 22 hours a day isn't good take her to a vet now or you're an irresponsible pet owner

>>34358729
That's still kind of a stretch but an improvement over last time

>>34358574
>iktf friend
My cat did the same except he was pissing himself. Turns out it was cancer. He was 21 years old.

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>>34358574
Yesterday morning my cat dropped a fat one right outside the litter box too, but not cuz he's sick it's because he's really dumb and spins around in the litter box and doesn't realize his but it sticking out so he poops on the floor then tries to bury nothing in the box

>>34356012
I thought about it all night at work, i think im gonna pass man. thanks tho. Im gonna hold out hope of finding a M70 in the future.

>>34359099
Kek

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>>34359099
Stop posting so loud. Kitty is trying to sleep.

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>>34359099
Enclosed litter box masterrace

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Those with cats do you use the Breeze litter system? If not check it out and change your life...no more litter pebbles in your sheets and all over the fucking place.

No, Just a regular ol litter box. Wife hates it cause litter gets on the bathroom floor. What is it? Thought about cutting a little cat door to the garage so it can shit out there.

>>34359196
>>34359175

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>>34359161
Mine is enclosed though, he sticks his butt out the door and poops

Half the time he doesn't even cover up his own poop and it stinks up the room until my other car comes in and buries it for him. He's just really dumb

>>34359206
You let your cats outside ?

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>>34359196
>>34359202
Seriously check it out: https://www.amazon.com/Purina-Tidy-Cats-BREEZE-Starter/dp/B001411SK0

They are clay pellets that end up trapping the shit and holding the smell in pretty damn well and use a tray with a diaper type lining or the piss. You still have to be a decent human and clean it regularly but say bye bye to clumps of litter everywhere possible. Expect to find pellets around but they are a size that is noticeable and able to be picked up with easy.

http://phoenix.backpage.com/SportsEquipForSale/2-035-russian-izhmach-tiger-and-night-scope/52638598

Wish i had the dosh.

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>>34359318
>$2000
WHAT THE FUCK

Normally I would immediately assume it's a scam but backpage is always used for FTF stuff right?

One of you Arizona faggots has to buy this

>>34358606
These kits are supposed to hit the civilian market in August. Hopefully they are funneled stateside soon after.

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>>34359352
Fuck, i know man. If i wasnt getting a house at the end of the year, id be buying it.

>>34359389
Buy and flip...worth easily double.

>>34359411
But that requires me to have capitol availible. Which i dont currently. :^(

>>34358031
I don't know about legally retarded, but I'd be legally within my rights.

>>34358599
I could legally have any pistol in my apartment. That includes an AK pistol.

>>34359264
Nope forever trapped inside

>>34359303
stop smoking cigs

>>34349034
>Is this a good looking gun?

That's up to you and not us you dope

>>34359427
That is a shitty issue and I am sorry to hear anon, I have been there and done that. There are always deals in the future just know that!

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>>34359477
That's a friends island cat. Cigs are nasty.

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>>34359556
I was referring to the lighter. Aren't you one of the dudes that sells bakelites? Know if any mail from Russia is still successfully coming through?

>>34358654
shitpipe

>>34359574
Yeah, I just chose to think about cats instead. So sue me.

Per RU I have seen a few people getting boxes with 10x items and under in the last month. Latvia and Poland are still G2G last checked. The RU guys on AKFiles are still doing business also.

>>34359106
No problem and good luck

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>>34359600
Dogs > Cats

Thanks for update my dude.

>>34359626
Cats > Dogs >>>>>>>>>> Corgis

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>>34359600

>>34359384
There's already someone on AKFiles selling the parts. Dude wanted a stupid amount for the folding stock.

>>34351781
GT is among the best ammo to stockpile for this very reason. It's sealed very well and doesn't rust easy. Before I sold my maadi, I had about 2000 rounds of GT that I didn't pressure seal that sat for about a year. The guy I sold it to claimed he didn't have a single failure out of all that ammo.

>>34359767
Yeah, but he didn't have the full kit and it wasn't bought on the open market.

Once RU civilians can buy kits, we'll should see them appearing for a more reasonable price.

>>34359923
I've got a box of wolf (polycoat) aging outside right now for comparison

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>>34360000
You should compare this wolf instead.
>noice quads.

>>34359988
It still won't be technically legal since they are still sanctioned.

>>34360065
Don't have any, and I think I'm out of my case of "milspec" Wolf 5.45 or whatever it's called

Pretty sure the polycoat will rust, they're always rusted when I see them in the dirt after a few days.

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>>34360227
Ah well that is wolf 7 62x39 hp.