Well, since the fucking sanctions are now banning import of Russian made Veprs, (by the way if you have one, youve got a fucking gold mine there because of this) I need a new semi auto that comes close to the quality of the Ruskies Vepr.
>>34320138
Look to turkey my mans, They have probably the largest domestic interest in Semi auto shotguns, fuck half the guns coming out of turkey are chambered for 12ga
>>34320309
>Giving money to roaches
DDI 12, I love mine, $600
>>34320309
Turks and Erdogan
Nuke 'em
>>34320371
How reliably does it feed? I read on here that box fed semi auto 12 gauges aren't reliable enough for home defense and I'm too poorfag to be buying any kind of range toy that I can't also use for SD or HD.
>>34320371
What do you guys think of ar semi auto shotguns? I have some guy trying to trade me an ar12 with a vortex scope, pic related and i dont know jack shit about ar12s.
Would i be able to trade it away agin? How much are they worth? Are they junk?
>>34320371
I have a fucked up left arm from a childhood accident and need a foregrip for all long arms. Think Id be able to get a DDI 12 with a rail? It doesnt look like the one linked has one.
>>34320419
http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/component/virtuemart/shipping-rifles/ddi-12-shotgun-detail.html?Itemid=0
>>34320138
There's a Chinese clone of the Saiga 12 available for $400 from Classic. I've only heard good things.
https://www.classicfirearms.com/century-catamount-fury-1-12-ga-semi-auto
>>34320402
Anyone?
>>34320138
A tube magazine is still a magazine btw. You mean to say detachable box magazine.
>>34320472
Hey, thanks for the correction. I fuck up terms alot.
>>34320402
what I've heard is the AR12 is a good semi auto shotgun. Not some top tier shotgun, but it's not bad. Not sure how that helps you, but poke around online and decide for yourself then.
>>34320703
But are they worth 575 with a red green vortex sight? I cant find much about them.
>>34320433
Seconded, have one, somewhat rough inside, the steel seems to be HARD AS FUCK, tried polishing off an internal burr with a sharp bastard file and it dulled the file.
Cycles birdshot with some regularity even though it isn't supposed to (how else is my 6 year old supposed to shoot it?), cycles high-brass extremely well, the magazines are cheap but a bit meme-y and are proprietary.
Overall, worth the 300 bucks I paid for it, I'm not sure I'm even going to do the whole saiga-type conversion on it, it has the added effect of triggering nofunz liberals because "Muh 12-gauge AK, why do you need that??".
>>34321042
I saw one for sale at a gun show for $450. Keep in mind thats gun show price. Idk how much the scope is worth though. Sorry I cant help to much.
I've got a Derya, anon. It's breddy gud.
Gen 2's are better then Gen 1's. Couple minor issues fixed.
Watching people justify spending $500 on Catamounts and DDI 12s makes me so fucking pleased to have gotten a Vepr 12 on a whim a couple weeks ago.
>>34324148
No that is a lot of help actually. Thank you for trying.
>>34320138
Stay mad
>>34327663
I doubt thats you, youre fucking ugly and disgusting, unlike the person in that picture
Whatever you idiots do, please do not buy the AR-12 from Leader Arms (Turk roaches)
If you are still curious I can explain why.
>>34320451
It's a cheap piece of shit
>>34327971
That's actually me, but I am ugly :(
>>34320371
Really? I looked into getting one before I found out they tend to blow up every now and then, not to mention horrible quality issues. Was yours actually good from the factory?
>>34324447
Me too. High five.
>>34327971
Dude those are obviously cock and balls. It's not a girl.
>>34329244
Dubs of truth
>>34329294
Damn good gun though.
>>34328008
>>34328008
please explain, im thinking about getting one in trade
>>34328039
Post your pussy bitch
>>34329294
Something isn't right...
>>34328039
>>34329294
>>34328008
Whats the problem with the ar12 from the turks?
Are you fucking kidding me...I just sold my Vepr a week ago to a fried because they were fucking everywhere and I figured I could get another one in the future. FML SHIT.