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Russian Ammunition BANNED from import

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Latest round of sanctions has stopped the flow of Russian made ammo in all calibers.


F affordable shooting.

'WOLF' HOLDING OF SECURITY STRUCTURES (a.k.a. DEFENSE HOLDING STRUCTURE 'WOLF'; a.k.a. HOLDING SECURITY STRUCTURE WOLF; a.k.a. KHOLDING OKHRANNYKH STRUKTUR VOLK; a.k.a. WOLF HOLDING COMPANY), ul. Panferova d. 18, Moscow 119261, Russia; Nizhniye Mnevniki, 110, Moscow, Russia; Tax ID No. 7736640919 (Russia) [UKRAINE-EO13660].
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https://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/sanctions/OFAC-Enforcement/Pages/20170620.aspx
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What the fuck, Trump. I thought you supported gun rights and Russia, and now this. I know this isn't directly your fault but please fix this
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I hate the government.
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>>34316794
>F affordable shooting
>he doesn't handload
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>>34316815
>I thought you supported gun rights and Russia, and now this.
You should have known that he didn't the moment he elected to retain Obama's sanctions.
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Fuuuuuuuuuuck 5.45 is now going to be the new .303 Brit...
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>>34316794
Proofs?
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Fuck I was wondering when this would happen.
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FUCK
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>>34316794
He literally ran an anti-import campaign. Why is everyone surprised?
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Barnaul is not banned

Brown Bear and Silver Bear will still be available
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>>34316864
Because he also ran a pro gun and pro Russia campaign
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>>34316838

t.retard
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>>34316864
This, he's doing the same shit with automobiles as well.

RIP my hobbies.
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Reminder that this is not the Wolf Ammunition company
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>>34316872
He's a fucking New York City dweller, he at best doesn't give a shit about weapons.
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What about Wolf's ammo manufactured in Taiwan for example?
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>>34316870
YES. Glad I can still shoot my brown bear
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>>34316885

No.
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No Wolf Gold?
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>>34316873
Provide a credible article or a link to an official government statement or I call horseshit
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>>34316897

Taiwan ammo isn't banned.
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tulammo?
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>>34316901

you have to learn to read first and pay attention.
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Reminder that this is bullshit and you're all retarded
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>>34316794
Its just temporary to put the final nail in the coffin of the Trump/Russia conspiracy. They took a big hit after the Comey testimony and people who peddle the theory will look crazier at this point then they already do.
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>>34316794
>https://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/sanctions/OFAC-Enforcement/Pages/20170620.aspx

Wolf holding security structure is not Wolf ammunition which is owned by sporting supplies international.

Wolf holding securities is an organization owned by the night wolves motorcycle club, something that has nothing to do with ammunition manufacturing.
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>>34316876
>RIP my hobbies.
>hobbieS
You.. you can have more than one?
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>>34316794
W-What about Tulammo?
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>>34316881
But I wouldn't expect him to try and displease Putin for no gain, also his son is big into guns
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>>34316913
The new sanctions can't be altered by an executive order and require a super majority in order to change them.
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>>34316794
I am seriously considering just buying a 106fr instead of this 104fr I found on armslist. Fucking magazine prices man...
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Looks like I was right again.
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>>34316915
PROOFS that wolf holding securities is not wolf ammunition.

s t o p t h e p a n i c
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>>34316937
Except you're talking about the sanctions the Senate passed and have yet to be taken up by the House.

The sanctions the OP talks about were just imposed today by the Treasury Department.
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>>34316815
Wow, a con man who would say anything to get what he wanted didn't keep his word. How about that.

>''I will solve all of your problems.''

t. Trump 2016
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>>34316930
I can't find it on the banned list.

Just FMSU, I just bought my first mosin, now I'm stuck with PPU which is going to go up to $20 a box.
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>>34316957

>https://www.treasury.gov/press-center/press-releases/Pages/sm0114.aspx

i forgot the link.
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Wolf Holding of Security Structures is an organization owned by the previously-designated Night Wolves motorcycle club. The company provides martial arts and tactical military courses to foreign military, law enforcement, and Russian-speaking compatriots from European and Asian States. Wolf Holding of Security Structures is being designated for having materially assisted, sponsored, or provided financial, material, or technological support for, or goods or services to or in support of, the Night Wolves.
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>>34316940
Get the 106fr but check to see the serial prefix early guns had feeding issues.

Also only use Bulgarian circle 10 Black magazines. The transparent ones don't have metal Feed lips and will fail
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>>34316930

Tula isn't at all.
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got 5,000 rounds coming.
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This is the definition of fake news.
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>>34316915
Yeah that wolf motorcycle shit threw me for a loop for a second. Who the fuck even cares about that motorcycle shit. Do Urals get b& because of it?
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>>34317041
the treasury is releasing fake news?
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Stop bumping this thread it's bs
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>>34317069
fake news.

read the links posted. Its a sanction against wolf securities not wolf ammunition/sporting supplies international. wolf securities is getting the sanctions because of the night wolves mc.
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>>34317069
No, OP is.
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>>34317098
>>34317090
ah, thank you for momentarily stooping to my mongoloid level of awareness
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>>34316794
Wolf is based in California and they import from TPZ which isn't on the list.

Nice misinfo CTR
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>>34316794
BASED TRUMP, hes so redpilled XD
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>>34316951
Except it's referring to a different Wolf company you fucking retard.
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>>34316794
Yeah, no that's not wolf ammunition. It was a company previously owned by a motorcycle club known as the Night Wolves.
Wolf Holding of Security Structures is an organization owned by the previously-designated Night Wolves motorcycle club. The company provides martial arts and tactical military courses to foreign military, law enforcement, and Russian-speaking compatriots from European and Asian States. Wolf Holding of Security Structures is being designated for having materially assisted, sponsored, or provided financial, material, or technological support for, or goods or services to or in support of, the Night Wolves.
Direct from the treasury's website.
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>>34316825
>hand-loading is so cheap just spend $800 on tons of shit and $400 a month in components and you too can save $0.02 per round!
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>>34317476
m-muh hot loads
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>>34316794
FAKE NEWS
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Anyone who didn't google deserves the panic.
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>>34317476
Its worth it if you shoot high caliber shit.

you save like 50 cents a round if you reload 30-06.
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fuck. I need to panic buy another 1000 rounds of 5.45
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>>34316870
perhaps but those prices will go up as shooters look to alternatives.
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>>34317476
Don't forget the time you have to invest doing it instead of gaming or getting high off your ass or trolling k.
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>>34317520
>yfw Wolf Ammo employees are taking advantage of this coincidence to push hoarders to panic buy their shit in bulk before they find out
SHILLS, I TELL YOU, SHILLS
OP is very likely a shill
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>>34316960

Right?

>"I'm gonna say a lot of strong things. Real strong, vague things. Short sentences. I'll do the biggest strongest things without saying how. Other things are bad, you can't even imagine how bad they are"

Then he flipped or stalled on damn near everything he promised
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>>34317524
if your time is worth nothing.
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just a reminder that more sanctions on Russian are going to happen on top of what just happened to molot, but its currently stalled


AMMO may be next.


http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/house/338673-house-republican-stalls-russia-sanctions-bill
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>>34317613
That's why they call if free time
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>>34316830
What? Easily obtainable?
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>>34317621
Glad I never doubted for a moment, fucking fake news trying to spin this as "hurr he's protecting putin again"
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>>34317651
it*
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They're still banning VEPRs though.
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>>34316794
Does this affect Red Army Standard ammunition? It's imported and Russian
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should I panic buy lacquered Russian ammo?

https://youtu.be/ud1JXqGWPvU?t=59s
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Fake news. Wolf holding is not the same company.
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>>34318430
are YOU fucking STUPID? WOLF. it CLEARLY says WOLF. as in WOLF AMMUNITION!!!!
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>>34316872
He ran a campain where he made the weak-minded think that he will change things in their individual favour. Pretty based.
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>>34318450
>He ran a campain where he made the weak-minded think that he will change things in their individual favour
Hmmm that sounds familiar...
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>Wolf
>cheapest

Yeah, maybe if it's a factory reload.
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>>34317476
If you reload fucking 9mm Luger or 7.62x39mm then yes you'll barely see returns, you fucking idiot, look at something like .357 Magnum, .45-70, .300BLk, .338 Lapua, shit where you'll really cut costs.
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>>34318478
funny, it's almost as if this entire thread is about cheap ammo options for 9mm, 7.62x39, 223 ect ect and not high factory cpr rounds like you mention.
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>>34316878
This...

Chill before you guys start a panic buying on ammo
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>>34316960
>>34317561
Nice Leddit spacing, faggot, put me in the capture for r/4chan
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>>34316815
>"I know this isn't directly your fault but please fix this"

Trump supporters are the cuckiest of cucks
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TFW Soviet ammo banned.
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>>34318869
>Implying Trump has anything to do with the Treasury.
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>>34318869
Oh shit... you take that back...

Damn that demonspawn
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>>34316794
As long as Tulammo isn't banned I still have hope
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>>34316815
Ha, fell for the Trump meme. You're a sad shit.
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http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/house/338673-house-republican-stalls-russia-sanctions-bill
Looks like the bill has been stalled for now by the House. Get your Wolf ammo while you still can.
>MFW I'm laffin at you guys on top of my pile of Brown Bear 7.62x54r
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>>34317476
Bullet casting is where you save the most.
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>>34316901
You fucking idiot. Go back to the top and scroll ever so slightly down. Fucking moron. Idiots like you is why things get banned!
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>>34316940
106, the most problematic of slr's. Good luck child.
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>>34317524
>>34318478
Damn if only this thread had anything whatsoever to do with those calibers.
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>>34318430
This.

Wolf Ammo is headquartered in California
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>>34318869
Me too. I'm sick of winning already.
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>>34317065
The Night Wolves are a faggy motorcycle gang, who have nothing to do with Ural Motorcycles.
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>>34319112
Are you blind?!?! It CLEARLY says WOLF. As in WOLF AMMUNITION!
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oh fugg.
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>>34319138

Why is Liam Neeson wearing gay bar apparel and sitting next to ManletPutin?
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>>34317613
>spend an hour a day meditating at my reloading table
>feel the stress melting away as I satisfy my autustic need for precision in a controlled environment
>carefully weighing out the powder for my precision rifle rounds
>go into a trance churning out endless 5.56 rounds
Sure if you live a super busy life it's not exactly an option, but I live my life such that I always have time to relax a little at the end of the day. I'd be spending it gaming, watching TV, or reading anyway, so it's not like I'm giving up otherwise useful time. Also, being able to fine tune your loads to your gun, using fire-formed brass, is something you simply cannot do with factory ammo, and I can shoot decent quality 5.56 cheaper than steel case shit ammo. The only downside is that I look stupid with brass catchers strapped to the side of my ARs, but I can live with it for the upsides.
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>>34318869
>implying she wouldn't have banned all forms of guns and ammo by now
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>>34317613
The fuck else am I gonna do? Shitpost on an Albanian horse breeding forum?
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>>34319547

J's are ugly as fuck.
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Fake news.
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Bah, misinformation or not, it's about time we put pressure on the NRA and Congress.
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>>34319569
So you're the fuckface that keeps posting how to jack off a mare for breeding?
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>>34320154
inb4 stud
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>>34317613
Do you work two jobs or have some job/business you work at any time of your choosing where you'd actually make money? If not then your time is worth nothing. Hobbies, reloading, jerking off, you're making zero dollars doing all of it.
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>>34319138
that fucking hat
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>>34316794
Good. Wolf ammo is shit its pretty much tula tier
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>>34316794

lol, holy shit watching shareblue jumping into this thread and having no fucking idea about anything.

Driurtmph is finish guyz XD
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Why the fuck is this thread full of people acting like this is about Wolf Ammo when it's been cleared up and made evident that it isn't?

Moreover what's this bullshit about Molot?
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Woot.
Send more up here to leafistan
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>>34316794
That wolf company isn't even related to wolf ammo. That's some sort of military training company.
Didn't you read the damn thing?
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>>34317065
>Who the fuck even cares about that motorcycle shit.
They do political campaigns and business in Crimea, they are sort of antifa with motorcycle flavor, suck governments dick for gibsemedats. Everyone who touches Crimea get hit with a stick. Major Russian companies avoid doing things in Crimea and for that purpose """non-affiliated""" companies are created or business is done through companies that are already under sanctions (aka Putin's jewish oligarch bros).
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>>34316815
>I know this isn't directly your fault but please fix this

yeah we need more people crying about trump because the government still does things without his approval

>how dare you not be a dictator!
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>>34320898
>That's some sort of military training company.
Nah that is another company. PMC "Wagner".
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>>34318401
No. There is no ammo import ban against Russia as a whole; the ban is only against certain persons and organizations within Russia and the DNR/LNR.
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>>34319138
>that hat
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>>34321079
Thank fuck I can get Red Army Standard from my LGS for 5$ a box that would suck to lose that
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>>34318478
Reloading really pays off if you load something insane like bronze points for an 8mm or 308 and +p that shit
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>>34316794
Except this Wolf is not the Wolf that sells ammunition. Stop spreading misinformation and delete this thread.
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>>34321376
Bulgarian/Ukrainian ammo factories must be rejoicing.
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>>34316794
Okay you fags, here is the proof the Wolf is not banned! Stop spreading this nonsense!

>Wolf is NOT banned!
Wolf is NOT banned!
>Wolf is NOT banned!
Wolf is NOT banned!
>Wolf is NOT banned!
Wolf is NOT banned!
>Wolf is NOT banned!
Wolf is NOT banned!

I called Wolf's customer service line and was transferred to the manager there. Here is the recording!

https://www.mediafire.com/?azoph0limoat3g4

Now STFU and stop panic buying wolf! Panic buy VEPRs instead, like a man.
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>>34316794
Dude GT is what, a couple cents more? And a night and day difference in terms of quality.
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>>34319138

Actually, they are pretty badass... They have a few tanks a couple APC's, Import and export firearms... Enforce the "law", are a open book mafia who rubs shoulders with putin to help encourage russian morale and pride for their country .....Their "club house" is basically a mad max end of the world apocalypse style camp that literally had 5,000 people coming to see rammstein play a concert while the audience fire'd Ak's into the air and fireworks.

>Truely Madmen level's of /k/
So yeah, No joke they are the real deal. A militarized mafia
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>>34321538
Actually; I lied.. they are more along the lines of mercs.. since they do go into combat , have lost members in combat and work alongside the Russian military
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>>34321538
Their clubhouse and concert thing is hardly impressive, many motorcycle clubs do that stuff. I grew up on a farm near some land owned by one in my country, they used to have a yearly rock music and drag racing festival over the Easter long weekend that would bring in tens of thousands of people.

Once the insurance costs and police presence got too large, they started letting music promoters host raves there instead, and just supplied the security and drugs.

Shouldn't come as a big surprise, partying is basically what motorcycle clubs are all about. I imagine the clubs must organise some pretty massive events in America.
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>>34321620
Cool, did that motorcycle club also have t-84s given to them by Vladimir Putin himself.
Which then they literately used to help invade a country.

>No?
K.
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>>34321527
Supply and demand, fampai. GT is "a couple cents more" because all the poorfags buy Wolf and Tulammo and RES and the other "shit" ammo. If the "shit" ammo is banned (which it isn't) then all the poorfags buy GT and its ilk. If suddenly everybody is buying GT then GT prices go up.
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>>34321688
Working hand-in-glove with government makes them shills, no matter how many tanks Putin gave them.

They'll also get sold down the river as soon as Putin sees them as a liability or they simply stop being useful idiots, like the Judenräte.
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>>34316872
>pro Russia campaign
More like a "No war with Russia over DNC """hacks""" campaign."

Or at least I cannot remember him speaking about lifting sanctions.

Hillary was retardedly hawkish about Russia, it's easy to see Trump as concillitory towards Russia by comparison, but I think it was merely silence.
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>>34316960
>>34317561
Fuck off back to neogaf
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>>34321516
Don't we get most of the x54 spam cans from Belarus/Bulgaria/Ukraine anyways?
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>>34317476
I know you're disabled, but the general rule of thumb is that the reloading setup should pay for itself in under 1k rounds. If you really want to be a fuckwit by buying a Dillon to load virgin brass 7.62x39 thats your problem. If a person is spending $400 a month on shooting, that exactly the type of person that should reload and if they have $400 a month to blow on a hobby, they are far beyond complaining about the prices of steel case
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>>34316794
Uh, Wolf is a trademark of SSI, which is a US company. The ammo is made by Tula Cartridge Plant in Tula Tula Tula Russur. The 'Wolf' referenced is a holdings group for the Night Wolves motorcycle gang.
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>>34319013
Trump didn't enact these sanctions congress did. That being said he also didn't veto.
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>>34316864
>He literally ran an anti-import campaign. Why is everyone surprised?

This. Why the fuck import russian made ammo?
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>>34318369
This is the real issue, because that's the first step in gun control, and it's already happened before (RIP Norinco). All the VEPRs are officially cut off from further import now. Now all of the VEPRs that are already here are going to be the only ones left and they're just going to get progressively more and more expensive until only rich collectors can really have them. Then a few years down the line some liberal fucking faggot politician can finally take the last baby step in eliminating gun rights and stamp out the 2nd Amendment forever. The war on 2A is being fought with baby steps and there's nothing we can do to stop it if we don't get someone to pass a law making the 2A invulnerable to gun control.

>US bans importing VEPRs
>the only VEPRs we can have now are the few ones that are already here
>VEPR prices go up and up, getting more rare and more expensive every few years
>eventually only rich collectors will have VEPRs
>US bans importing WASRs, Century AKs, and other foreign AKs
>eventually all the non-US guns are banned
>can only get guns made here in the US
>overnight federal law banning manufacturing of firearms
>10 years later the lack of fresh guns means that all the existing guns are going to be more rare and more expensive every year
>eventually only rich collectors and museums have the guns

Then once that's done, this will happen:
>gov-planned&orchestrated-mass-shooting.gif
>crisis actors crying
>"but I thought all the few guns we had were safe? I thought the system works and that crazies and spree-murderers couldn't have access to the guns?"
>gov acknowledge that the system is broken and vows to change it
>no guns allowed ever
>metal detectors with 911 alarm at every door
>police brutality skyrockets
>murder rate quadruples
>gun crime intensifies by 5,000,000%
>US turns into full on 1984 North Korea shit
>puts fluoride in the tap water to make you gay
>forced liberalization torture camps
>all females executed and replaced with traps
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>>34326973
South Park predicted this. Liberal PC takeover is the whole premise of the 19th season.
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>>34316827
If only we voted Hillary right faggot?
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>>34316951
You are muslim. You follow the worng religion. Mohammed was a con man.
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>>34327091
Yea, clearly that's the implication there, fuckhead. I hate you people.
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>>34326973
>overnight federal law banning manufacturing of firearms
this is when organized riots happen
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>>34318467
This, same shit different flavoring
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>>34326973
>>overnight federal law banning manufacturing of firearms
That's when 3D printers and drill presses get suspiciously popular.
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>>34320290

okay money bags, we are happy you can afford 20$ a box winchester ammo of around the same quality
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>>34327158
Cry harded bitch my vote for Trump was worth it to see you cry every day when you wake up.
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>>34327180
No they won't.
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thread is retarded, let it die.
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>>34327328
Yes, they will.
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>>34327563
I think you think too highly of complacent Americans.
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>>34327590
I think you think too lowly of tired americans.
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>>34316794
>Elect antigun president
>Elect war hawk president
>Muddy the waters with Russian interference
>Piss the Russians off because muh Trump did nothing wrong FAKE NEWS CNN
>Start hostilities with Russian allies
Americans are too stupid for their own good, glad I'm moving to Vietnam.
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>>34327611
Are you mad America is back?
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>>34327611
>too dumb to realize OP was trolling

Goodbye thanks for leaving you smelly shit skin cockroach. >>34327611
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>>34327611
>I'm moving to Vietnam
why would you move to a literal third world country anon?
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>>34327613
Nope, just losing faith in the """people"""
>>34327624
See ya
>>34327697
>Current economic power horse of Asia
Not for long, plus I'm going to be on a nice quiet stretch of farm land, and family is smugglers, so should be able to sneak some guns in.
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>>34317476

don't forget the labor of actually putting the rounds together, but if you mention that reloaders hiss at you and pretend they enjoy doing hours of work just to save a few bucks.
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>>34327734
Why not just move to a less restrictive country? Philippines and Thailand have not completely terrible gun laws if you have the money.

Vietnam is nice for a visit, but everything is so heavily restricted and overregulated, even by the standards of South-East Asia.
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>>34316915
>>34316957
>>34317041
>>34317065
>>34317132
>>34317498
>>34317520
Holy shit you delusional drumpfkins are hilarious. Trump banned all Russian ammo, period.

This is indisputable, and it's only the first step in his con game. Wait until he comes for asssault weapons, and then handguns, and then outright bans possession of firearms for anybody other than his devoted constituents (think Hitler's SA).

This is the future you chose drumpfkins, it's grim and it's shitty but I can't say there isn't a degree of satisfaction to be had watching you fucking morons plunge yourselves into nuclear hellfire.
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>>34327883
> and then outright bans possession of firearms for anybody other than his devoted constituents (think Hitler's SA).
Stop spouting this myth.

Overall, Hitler eased German gun laws and encouraged private gun ownership amongst German citizens; they were restricted under the Weimar Republic, not Nazism.

It was his way of circumventing laws against rearmament, by letting private citizens arm up, get good at marksmanship, so he could draft them later.
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>>34327943
Oh how surprising, a fucking brainlet drumpf supporter is also a historical revisionist.

JEWISH PEOPLE WERE GERMAN CITIZENS TOO YOU FUCKING AUTIST

IT NEVER WOULD'VE STOPPED AT THE JEWS, EUGENICS NATURAL CONCLUSION IS THE EXECUTION OF EVERYBODY WHO'S NOT A GENETIC CLONE OF WHAT'S CONSIDERED TO BE THE PERFECT HUMAN DRUMPFLET RETARD MOTHERFUCKER
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>>34327993
False.

Jews aren't people
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>>34327870
Family lives in a remote village in Xuan Loc.
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>>34327870
Wife did say I'm free to travel to Thailand, Laos and Cambodia for guns and whores though.
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op is a fag for real
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>>34327180
Not really. And the very few people who do decide to go "up in arms" will just be labeled as redneck terrorists and will be shot down by police immediately. The media will commend the cops for saving the peaceful Americans from the radical redneck terrorists, and then nobody will ever rise up against the gubmint ever again.
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>>34328069
I seem to recall that general area being famous for the farming of strawberries and... Some kind of flowers, I think daffodils?
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>>34327993
>Overall
Also, no they weren't.

They were stripped of their citizenship by the Nazis before they were banned from owning guns, yo.
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>>34317065
Don't ban muh bike
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>>34327883
>assault weapons
>mfw
>implying the federal gubment would be stupid enough to try to take away the guns from any red state
>still shilling despite the current year
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Ordered 5k rounds of wolf .223 mil spec, and 3 1400 crates of wolf mil spec 7.62x39


I think they will sanction ammo next, the next round of sanctions is stalled but they are trying.
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>>34328546
>he spent 3000+ dollars on shitty ammo because of a shitpost
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>>34328609

3k is nothing
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>>34329122
Then why did you spend it on the lowest quality you could buy?
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>"That Wolf is dirty stuff. Real dirty. I think we should all just. You know. Switch over. I'm told by smart people. Real smart, that this Doge stuff is good. Very good. In fact I ordered that, that our military use this stuff too. They come to me and say we have this other stuff and not very good. No good. So I say, they tell me this DOGE(TM) is less dirty and flies very fast. Zoom! Hits the target all the time... Or so I'm told. So make sure you buy some of this good, real good DOGE(TM) bullet cartridges... Cartridges..."
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>>34327318
>I fucked over the country by supporting a bullshit 2 party system AGAIN just to make people upset
Leave my country, you fucking moron.
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>>34326973
>>34326973
you realize kalashnikov concern (the maker of the SAIGA and owner of izmash factory) has opened an american company called kalashnikov usa, which is based in florida to get around the import bans? relax, the russians just moved production to our soil
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>>34328546
Although obviously the OP is retarded/baiting/trolling/rusing, Russian ammo imports are for sure the next thing to go.
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>>34327943
>the 'le hitler eased gun restrictions' meme
I seriously hope you don't believe this. He eased gun restrictions for everyone except the jews.
Hitler was an anti-gun, anti-freedom communist drug addict, and the Nazis were the final nail in the Coffin for any hope Germany had at becoming great again. Anyone who says otherwise is a statist cuckold who thinks the Government should be running -other- people's lives, but has no right to run his, and will scream and cry when they find out that they don't get that choice, because they gave up their gun rights the second they let the government make it into a privilege.
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>>34330691
Kalashnikov USA has nothing to do with Saiga. They're 100% American-made, IO-tier firearms.
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>>34330748
Not exactly.
IO has actually released products.
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>>34330691
The only thing Kalashnikov USA has in common with KC, is the name.
>And KC wanted to sue them for copyright infringement on their name
There's absolutely nothing Russian about it, and they have been "running" for 3 years now and have yet to release ANY guns.
Learn what you're talking about before you open your yap, faggot.
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>>34316872
He was never pro Russia, he was just saying that he's willing to deal if they are willing, Putin is basically saying fuck you so surprise surprise puppy surprise.

Further, he was trying to de escalate as Hillary was basically wanting to start WW3.
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>>34327091
honestly, there would have been a lot less drama if Hillary won.

Single issue voters shouldn't be allowed to vote.
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Wolf holding has nothing to deal with Wolf brand ammo. This sanction is in regards to the motorcycle club that does PMC training.

You guys are tripping over nothing.
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>>34316815
If you support Russian arms imports than maybe you should fuck off. Trump is doing the right thing by supporting american manufacturers with this move. He always said we need more import tax to prevent companies from outsourcing to mexico, buy the way.
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>>34331824
This. The thread is liberal manipulation.
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>>34330742
>>34327993
>ha ha Hitler might have eased gun control on German citizens, but because he stripped them of their citizenship and shipped them to palestine to help establish their own nation somehow this invalidates the fact he made it easier for Germans to own guns. Checkmate nahzees
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>>34331881
>this entire post
You're retarded, but fine. I'll explain to you why you're fucking stupid:
"Easing" gun restrictions means jack shit if you keep guns from an entire section of your population, and then proceed to exterminate that section en-masse afterwards.
Guns are a right, not a priviledge. Either every person in your country gets them, including the 'undesirables', or nobody does. Just because Jews were stripped of their citizenship before being exterminated does not mean that Germans had a right to own guns in the Third Reich. It means that the government selectively chose who they wanted to own guns, and then took measures to keep guns out of the hands of those they didn't.
But no, please, keep going on about 'muh enemies aren't human' and 'h-hitler wasn't a dictator' and 'fascism is the only way!'. Actually, on second thought, how about you fuck off, you statist cuck?
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>>34331956
>Guns are a right, not a priviledge. Either every person in your country gets them, including the 'undesirables', or nobody does.
That's right guys, known terrorists, life long criminals, child rapists, and mentally deranged hazards to society need guns too, and if you disagree you're a statist cuck!

I'll explain a little something to you too; If you're not a citizen of a state, they can trample on the rights given to citizens all they fucking want because you're not a citizen of the state. This is not a hard concept.

Hitler literally couldn't have restricted guns for citizens, when he restricted firearms only for people he and his government didn't recognize as citizens because they plotted to commit treason against it, ai, commies and zionists.
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>>34332033
Okay, faggot. What do you not understand about the fact that the Third Reich's government literally stripping people of their citizenship, just to disarm them?
You're a retarded motherfucker with no reading comprehension. Go and read that post again, and then rethink your fucking stance on allowing the government to strip people of their rights.
Also,
>m-muh safety of society!
Your safety and your fee-fees do not matter. The ability of the people to rebel against a tyrannical government trumps all, and that ability requires a gun in the house of every citizen, no matter their skin color, religion, criminal record, or mental state. Shall not be infringed, faggot. Now stop advocating for your bullshit to come to the United States, because you know damn well that's what you're doing, or else you wouldn't be arguing 'm-muh hitler increased gun rights (except for da joos but they don't need guns anyways)'.
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>>34332047
>jews
>people

pick one, Hitler did nothing wrong.
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>>34331956
>"Easing" gun restrictions means jack shit
>if you keep guns from an entire section of your population, and then proceed to exterminate that section en-masse afterwards.

but does it really?

you can't deny that you have succeeded in easing restrictions for your population if you didn't for some, and then removed them from the population

letting noncitizens have weapons is silly
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>>34316922
If you get bored easily, it can be handy to have 2-3.
Not carguy anon, but when I get bored of shooting, or just broke from shooting, I moonlight on /tg/ and paint warhammer miniatures.
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>>34332059
>>34332066
SHALL
NOT
BE
INFRINGED
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>>34327883
right, but wolf the ammo brand is owned by an american company which means none of the rest of what you're drooling means anything at all
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>>34332092

Jew detected, gas yourself senpai!
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>>34316794
Lmao whatever, I had to dump my Tula because range doesn't allow bimetal.

Just reload the ammo you ninnies
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>>34332047
>What do you not understand about the fact that the Third Reich's government literally stripping people of their citizenship, just to disarm them?
I understand the fact the third reich's government didn't "literally strip people of their citizenship just to disarm them", they did it because they were considered a national threat because the jew-run & funded communist party tried to take control of Weimar Germany's government by armed coup, and after Hitler's democratic and lawful rice to power, notorious zionists like Einstein fled Germany with state secrets and weapons projecs like the nuclear bomb, which Hitler ordered to be terminated because he considered such a weapon to be inhumane. Why wouldn't you strip these people of citizenship and ship them to Palestine, when their only loyalty is to other jews? When's the last time a zionist shill in the congress has held a pro-american stance over Israel?

Funny that you're crying about my supposedly feelings based arguments when you're schreeching about the 6 gorillion jewish children killed by masturbation machines, and how Hitler was going to gas everyone who wasn't >6ft, blonde & blue eyed aryan posterboy.

Gas yourself, rabbi-sama.
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I've seen nothing in these releases by the Treasury that indicate having anything to do with ammunition.
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>>34332148
>shooting at a range
>calling others ninnies
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>>34316933
And also mega rich so he can afford whatever BS tax stamp and fast track fees that most Americans cannot get.
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>Russian ammo is banned from import
>Ukraine/Bulgaria/non-banned countries buy all the Russian ammo at a discount
>repackage with their countries' name
>sell to USA
>????
>PROFIT!

>US companies see huge available market
>Start pumping out US produced 7.62x39
>Trump created US jobs and cucked Russia out of their profit
>?????
>2ND TERM!
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>>34327883
>drumpfkins
oh hai shareblue
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>>34332047
Actually France disarmed and imposed gun laws at the versailles treaty
Hitler was pretty pro gun
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My jimmies are rustled. Don't worry me like this I just bought this AK. How am I going to feed Boris if I can't get ammo? I have to fucking but 7.62 brass now so you buttheads can't mess me up.
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>>34331881
It wasn't even an easing of restrictions for German vitizens, it was an easing of restrictions for people who were literally card carrying members of the Nazi party.

Just more "rights for me but not for thee" shit.
>>
People are surprised?

I swear to Bog, some guniggers are so desperate for love they'll drop their panties for the first politician that doesn't outright spit in their faces on the campaign trail.

The Hearing Protection Act will never pass.
The NFA will never be repealed.
Trump doesn't care about you.

Gorsuch was the only decent thing he's done for the country, and it had nothing to do with gun rights. Wait until (not IF) he or his family start taking literal fire, then you'll see what a friend /k/ has in Donnie Two Scoops.

Fucking people.
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>>34329370
>doge ammo
I would buy that
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oh no not wofl
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>>34318478
>tfw someone at my range reloads 7.62x39 for his AK using that old Yugo surplus ammo

I'm thoroughly convinced that if he wasn't so lucky, he would've already blown that gun apart with that heavily damaged brass
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>>34332583
The NFA was rolled into a larger wildlife conservation bill, which had its committee hearing canceled because a faggot commie pinko like you decided to overthrow the burgeiosie and spray bullets at the congressmen that didn't fuck your faggot commie messiah out of the race
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Are people actually still believing this shareblue tier shit post?
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>>34328304
Oh. So what youre saying is the liberals need to strip you of your citizenship before taking your guns.
That way no "rights" we're infringed upon!
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>>34330560
But anon, I voted Green!
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>>34316960
>I will make the world perfect
Obongo 2008
>no srsly this time
Obongo 2012
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>>34316794
Let the panic begin.
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>>34334359
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>>34334359
over 30 cents a round for steel cased 9mm? you are being jewed
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There is no ban. You guys are retarded. This isn't even the same wolf you dumb cunts.
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>>34334359
>>34334363
>summary
ya, I could put shit in a cart and not check out too.
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>>34334384
That's the screen for a completed order on sportsman's guide.
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>>34334406
>sportsman's guide
that poor, ignorant man child
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Is Russian ammo really banned?
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>>34334422
No
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>>34327993
Looks like a crybaby Hilldawg manlet got sand in xir vagina.
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>>34334416
Anywhere else with 18 cent 7.62x39?
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>>34334438
Then what's up with this thread?
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>>34334366
You're bad at math.
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>>34316815
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>>34334495
Retards
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>>34331881
>trying to redpill /k/, the goodest of goys
you are a fool
>>
F
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>>34332301

>ukraine buying anything from russia

>US companies producing inexpensive ammo

>9gag tier CUHRAZEEYWOLF image

you must be at least 18 to post on 4chan
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>>34334422
>>34334438
>>34334495
>>34334642
YES IT IS! Did you even read the thread?!
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Trump
Why
Stop
Please
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>>34337772
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>>34316815
buy american, faggot
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>>34337796
Its fake you uneducated moron
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>>34334366

2 x 500
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>>34327180
That really isnt going to happen.
Losing actual liberties never ends in the populace rioting or protesting. It just shuts everyone up and forces us to hunker down for the impending shitstorm.
No one protested the patriot act, the NSA revelations, the nfa, aussies and brits quietly gave up their guns.
We wont be different.
I hope Yellowstone erupts soon.
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>>34316881

Trump said in an interview that he carries an HK USP Compact in .45 and a .357 snubnose (brand not mentioned) on a daily basis, and his favorite pistol is an engraved 1911 he owns.
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>>34329370
>>34332623
I'm 100% convinced it would actually melt my fucking barrel after less than 1000 rounds.
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>>34338360
he says a lot of shit anon.

Until I see it I aint gonna believe it.
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>>34317476

>Imblying saving .50-.75 per round on .44 magnum, .25-.50 on .357, .20 on .38 doesn't add up really goddamn fast.

Now I realize that since you never shoot it won't matter to you nogunz, but for the rest of us, the equipment paid for itself in a weekend.

Even if you include paying ourselves for our time (For some reason. Don't fucking lie to me like you'd have otherwise spent that time doing something productive.) it's still significantly cheaper than buying factory for a lot of calibers.
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>>34334422
no
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>>34337891

you mean ayyy arrrs and 1911's that only rednecks buy, everything else including u.s ammo is under loaded garbage, that cost 2 times that of russian ammo and may be slightly more accurate and 200 fps slower
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