/k/ didn't lie thread

I think everyone should own at least one 1911.

>>34313718
Sounds like an Army problem, not an NC problem.

And you handle it like any adult would, just do what you need to do and leave. Why give a fuck what people say?

>>34313734
unironically? they seem pretty solid and reliable but 7+1 is my turn off. even John Wick didn't like the thing because of that.

>>34313775
the guy was a civilian working there. I didn't blame it on NC or bragg. just said it was something i didn't really believe happened.

>>34313792
Yeah, un-ironically. Granted, I live in a cuck state so all I can legally have is 10 rounds. They are awesome handguns though and I'd own one even if I had unrestricted access to the full market.

>>34313792
I mean, most are 8+1 with the new magazines now.

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>>34313792
This 1911 holds 16+1 10 mm.

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>>34313718
Fayettenamese lcoal here, don't bother buying a gun at any of our LGS. They suck dick.

>>34314197
All LGSs suckk dick. You just have to find the lesser evil.

>>34313792
Every modern semi pistol has a direct lineage to John Brownings Hi-Power/P35 tilting recoil system which was directly upgraded from his design of the venerable 1911.

It's the most historically relevant handgun to ever exist and the longest serving handgun of any military - 1911-1986. There's an undefinable charm the 1911 exudes that has to be experienced to be understood.

>>34313792
Compare a 1911 to a usp45

8+1 in the 1911
12+1 in the USP

BUT

You can fit two 1911 magazines in a single double stack mag carrier

(8+1) + (16) = 25
(12+1) + (12) = 25

With a 1911 vs a double stack 45 you just have to change mags one more time to get the same amount of rounds down target. Of course the 1911 is thinner (generally more concealable) and has a superior trigger (and ergonomics imo).

>>34313734
I own a S&W 657 so no.

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>>34313718
Gun shows
>go to gun show
>overpriced milsurp clothing everywhere
>"tactical" mall ninja/security guard supply booths with strobe flashlights and autistic knives
>knock-off FILBE style rucks from china priced the same or higher
>M U L T I C A M
>old boomers circle jerking about their $4,000 precision rifles
>a few booths of Nazi/Wehrmacht stuff thats marked "not for sale"
>hundreds of sporter'd Enfields and Mausers
>$600 "custom" Mosin Nagant
>"Hey there young fella, want to join our mailing list?"

Bought some ALICE gear, girl scout cookies, and a $200 Sporter'd Enfield.

>>34313734
Lol grip safety

>>34313718
What in the actual fuck is a PMO?

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>>34313718
>>34314277
Also how much LGS employees can be such dicks. I thought the cockyness of LGS employees was a meme until I started going to stores in my area. They take one look at you and decide they're either going to pretend you aren't there or condescend constantly on whatever you're interested in that they dont like.
>ask to see specific rifle, a savage I think. >Guy says they have those, but they also have some other rifle thats "waaay better and almost the same price"
>Go back and forth until I give up on him, his mama, the rifle, and that store forver.

Im thinking the guy was falling behind on his Ruger sales or whatever gun it was.

I much prefer the dudes at Cabelas or other big box stores where they have actual retail standards and training.
The LGS employees might know a bit more about guns, but it isnt worth how cocky they are. Besides if I go to a gun store I pretty well know what I want already. I've probably started at leas2 threads on here about the gun before Ive even handled it, so going to a retail/big box isnt a problem.

Fudd gun store guy called muh .45 'trashcan rounds'

Hur dur I wanna throw them big boolets

>>34314277
Pic of enfeild?

>>34314421
He's thinking of the flying ashtray, a nickname for the 200 grain Speer gold dots that were famous for their expansion and likelihood of jamming on feedramps

>>34314502
If serious and not a ruse, I would not give him that much credit

>>34314519
Nvm me retard

>>34313792
That isn't important when you already own a pistol that holds 15+ rounds. At that point you're a hobbyist and martial applications start to matter less, as long as you're comfortable with your "working" gun.

>>34313734
I don't necessarily like to hold believes that require everyone to conform to my thoughts and actions such that I can feel self validation.... But I love my 1911 and I can't exactly say why despite firing many other pistols and owning a glock 19 and ruger 8605

>>34313718
>>getting handgun in NC
>>go to ft. bragg PMO for form
Why didn't you go to a gun store? WTF???

>>34314408
Provost marshall's office

>>34314413
>buy a nugget from Gander Mountain, employee is genuinely surprised to see a hex receiver and that it's the same price as the others
>smooth transaction, pay my $240, leave
>go to LGS, ask if they have an SKS in stock
>Gun store owner doesn't know what it is, doesn't have nugget food, and charges $65 for FFL transfers

What the fuck

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Fat logic

>be inna walmart against better judgement
>soda isle getting root beer
>the moons Secunda and Masser enter the isle
>only me, them and another pair of people in the isle
.Secunda turns to masser and grumbles out "ergh, they should make these hallways biggerh"
>stifled laughter, got shit and left

>>34314170
Too bad it's uncomfortable as fuck to carry. I would if it was.

>>34313792
>but 7+1 is my turn off
then get a double stack 1911 .

>>34314429
Excuse the cringe. Better pics on my PC

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>>34315069
Fuckin forgot pic

>>34314170
Has anyone even shot one of these enough to see if rock islands pot metal will hold up to full power 10mm loads?

I honestly think it will crack or warp.

They get away with making bottom of the barrel 1911's with the cheapest castings because .45 is a low pressure round and because of the capacity they don't experience that high volume of shooting but its an insult to good 1911's to call r.I.a. good.

>>34314532
I understood you and you're right to still not give him that much credit and yes flying ashtray was a thing lol hadn't read that in a while.

>>34313734

I would only consider one in 10mm

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this>everything else

>>34313792
When do you envision needing more than nine rounds?

Are you planing to shit yourself while emptying the magazine in terror?

>>34314648
Need to get form to hand in when getting pistol purchase permit. Form is for mil only. PPP is for everyone in NC who want to buy a handgun legally.

>>34313734

They should, as a reminder. Mine is the shittiest handgun I own, and I say that as a Nagant revolver owner.
But while the handnugget is horrible, it has the same capacity and at least it goes bang every time instead of stovepiping.

>>34313792
>7+1 is my turn off. even John Wick didn't like the thing because of that.
Oh, so you plan on going on a revenge fuelled killing spree because you are an ex-super assassin?

Why don't you bother to look up how many rounds the average shooting involving self-defense by a civilian actually uses? It is surprisingly low. Don't look at how many rounds the police go through and think that is indicative of anything; the average LE officer has less range time than the average gun owning civilian, and the majority of LE officers don't even receive training for operating their firearms under stress.

>>34314277
I went to a gunshow and had the exact opposite experience. Yeah there was a bunch of overpriced shit but other tables had really great deals on guns. There were bushmaster ARs going for 450 dollars, brand new Ruger 10/22's for 179 bucks, and I came close to buying a USP in .40 for 450 bucks, but I didn't because I'm fucking poor. I did pick up a magpul vertical grip for 8 bucks, a milsurp m16 cleaning kit for 5 bucks and a tekmat. Overall had a good time.

>>34313718
Wilmington fag here, just tell the old fuck "Yes Sir, haha already have one haha." I deal with this all the time working under my uncle's FFL.

>>34315702
Limpwrist manlet detected

>>34314413
This.
>looking for range toy on a budget
>specifically asking about CZ Shadow 2
>yeah I can put you on an indefinite waiting list if you order now, expect at least six months
>this combined with bad QC on the finish makes me reconsider
>ask for other options and tell him I do not like Sigs or 1911s
>keeps trying to push Walther M5 even after I made up my mind on a G34 M.O.S.
>trying to tell me the slide cuts are a compensator

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> .45 is so slow you can actually see the bullet

Always assumed the guy who said it was just exaggerating because lol Texans. Suddenly, watching 5 mins into https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqQed5169zw&t=5m, I realize he's right.

Guess I owe him a steak and a six pack.

>>34315570
That seems to be the modus operandi of young men these days.

>>34313718
What do I do in that situation?
I try and get the kid to buy a 45. That's a real gun.

>>34315084
Nice enfiled did you get the .303 model or the .308 model.

So what is the best 1911 for an anon to get?

>>34318073
Jesus fucking christ. I knew they were slow but that is insane! Ive heard stories of fuddy five not going through car winshields or of people being shot multiple times with a 1911 and surviving with no critical damage.

My father used to tell me that the whole .45 manstopper meme came from back when all the army used was .38 specials. And my father was imo very fuddish. It was always funny for him to talk to other fudds and when the .45 conversation came up, he would always say ".45 is only good for shooting 3rd world natives" and watch the old guys turn red in fury

>>34318073
Wtf, it looks like he's throwing pebbles with his hand

>>34314277
I thought it would be different in Canada but it's the exact same fucking thing with even less variety.

Gonna stick to my LGS from now on

>>34313718
I have never heard anyone in NC say this. I blame the fact that you were in Fayetteville, widely considered to be the event horizon of our state's terminal asshole.

It is more convenient to buy several forms if you buy a lot of pistols but you can apply for them every month. The bill that removes these permits just passed the House with a majority and is going to Senate so keep an eye on that. Expect the new nutless Democrat governor to veto it once and get overridden by the Republican majority.

>>34314197
this guy is right, especially if you try to go into a Jim's.

>>34318073
That shit has to be reduced recoil or something, right?

>>34318073
>>34320812
>>34321583
>>34322111
Those do look slower than I would have expected (perhaps a function of watching with a camera instead of my eyes), but you can see 9mm and 12 gauge slugs at ranges like that, no problem.

>>34323443
9mm and .40 are a good 300fps faster than .45, so I guess most common pistol calibers are visible then.

>>34313734
I kinda want a 1911 only because I also own an M1 Garand.

>>34315498
>>34315512

Beat me to it. Recent transplant to MD here, and the moment I get my HQL I'm ordering a Razorback.

1911+Dan Wesson+10mm=god's own full-frame pistol.

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>>34313792
45 XD. 13 rounds, lighter to carry than 1911, same grip angle

>>34314215
If it's upgraded, then you should get a Hi-Power.

I feel weird because I knew these before /k/

>>34314277

First gunshow I went to had all of this. I internalized the "stereotypical nazi guy" as being just par for the course with shows.

>>34314413

First gun store I went to ever. Store owner was an old fucker.

Opening remarks to me on my first meeting with him was "that damned nigger in washington is really fucking everything up, isn't he?".

Every trip afterwards was an adventure in shit service. Faggot never stocked .40S&W or .30-06. Had nothing but a big ass barrel of old carcanos, .22 imitations of intermediate guns, fuddshit, and a bunch of ian-tier forgotten weapons.

Even had trouble buying goddamn ear plugs from the faggot.

The one good thing about the fucker I can say, though, is that he sold me the rarest gun in my collection -- a Bannerman nugget.

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>>34315512

Needs an arched mainspring housing and wraparound grips. Then it'd be perfect.
Still, pretty nice.

>>34318073

If the lighting's right you can see .22 LR rounds going downrange as well.
The CCI copper-plated ones are easiest to do this with.
Get the sun behind you and over to one side, and you can see 'em.
Couple of my childhood friends were convinced this was bullshit, then I showed them.
Same with .380, .38, and .45. Anything sub 800 FPS or so you can see if the conditions are right.

>>34324840
This gent >>34323443 says he can see 9mm, so it sounds anything below 1200fps might be visible.

>>34325321
Based on shot gun slug veiwing, I'd say it's very lighting dependent, but up to 1400 fps is doable if the range is over 50 yards.

The bigger bullets are easier to see in bad lighting, and recoil can fuck up your tracking.

>>34314277
I actually have the opportunity to go to a gun show for the first time, are they all crap or something?

>>34324507
All the gunshows in Columbia have that feel to them but other than one store in particular, all them ones I've visited are actually well staffed and everyone is really nice and pleasant, and more than willing to hold a conversation with you. Except for PSA, because they don't hire enough salesmen.