Why is the Sig 55X family unobtainium in the United States?

Reagan and Bush Senior

>>34309967
we aren't allowed to have the best assault rifles (aka modern ak based designs) in the us bc they would be way too dangerous. we are only allowed to build shitty plastic ars or old ak designs from the 70s

Even Yuropeans can get them, stay mad

Want me to buy one and move to the US? I'll sell it when I arrive

I want a 540. Fuck the 550.

>>34309967
It's not, you're poor.

>>34310038
>Dumb European thinks he can import a weapon but we can't
Fuck, you people are so goddamn stupid all of the time. What's in the water over there?

>>34309976
>implying its the best

>>34309967
Because swiss arms can't figure out how to import them as "sporters" or build them stateside.

>>34310669
They figured out how to import them as pistols and you still can't afford them.

>>34310168
>It's not, you're poor.
This. You can buy 553s all day long for ~2500.

They get imported in spurts since, believe it or not, few people want a fuck heavy AK in 5.56 at jew prices. When they're in between importation you'll get the super kikes asking 4k for them but I've never seen one actually sell for that.

AUG is the better mountain jew gun anyway.
>inb4 it's Austrian
no shit

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>>34310695
It's an even harder argument to make considering the number of very good ARs and the SCAR that exist in that price range.
Both of which are better

>>34310695
>2500
realy? you jews have them cheaper than we mountain jews?

>>34310745
we had them for right at $2100 w/ diopter when they were on closeout since they sat for months unsold.

right now the cheapest one (only one) gunbroker is $3750 as it looks like we're between shipments yet again.

everyone who wanted them has probably already bought one so idk if they will come back. our swissboos have moved on to the APC223 which is a much better gun imo.

>>34310786
APC223 looks like shit wtf, how is it better?

>>34310958
>looks like shit
agree. all extruded aluminum guns look like shit.
>how is it better?
by coping the SCAR and not a gun designed in the 1940s. it's also not built in a shed by like 12 people at a dying company so there's some level of quality and R&D involved.

weight, ergonomics, maintenance, gas port and system, and cost of manufacture (even tho we get raped) are all far superior on the APC family.

>>34310786
Funny my LGS has the Sig 550 A1 for $1600 duckets. Thinking about picking it up but got bills and living expenses.

>>34311182
>Sig 551 A1
>any price
that's made by niggers in NH. avoid as most won't run.

>Check gun store here in Eastern Canada
>Sig550 on sale
>$3500, regular $4200

They expect someone to actually pay that much? funny enough a Type 97 was $500.

>>34309967
Assault weapons ban for the original 550.
Too high price and low demand for the others.

>>34311959
>They expect someone to actually pay that much?

They sure as hell do in Switzerland as well. You'd think they'd be juuust a little bit cheaper to buy over here because they're produced here. But no, they still cost 3500 USD.

>>34310173
Calcium.

>>34309976
>implying we cant get a galil

>>34311106
Tell me about the poor quality control on the SG550 rifles. I know they do stupid shit like leave certain parts in the white so they can rust.

>>34312411
>I know they do stupid shit like leave certain parts in the white so they can rust.
Which parts? Im interested, Ive repaired thousands of them over the years, You mean the gas tube? Too bad retards started using the steel brush to clean it.

>>34312441
Because they force you to use a steel brush in the army

>>34312441
I don't remember exactly. The gas tube was one of them. There was a diagram I saw posted once that outlined what was coated and what wasn't.

>>34312452
Yes. not much thinking is applied. You should clean the gas tube inside like all two years and the contacts with the gas nozzle with every pd. But no fucking retards want to clean shit thats not supposed to be cleaned.

>>34310173
You are the idiots here. You can import Swiss made Sig 55X.

but you dumbfuckers are not able to inform yourself.

>>34312671
Not all of it

>>34310173
>>34310669

See
>>34310168
>>34310680
>>34310695

>>34312671
I know, you stupid fuck. He was implying he would be able to if we couldn't. Europeans failing at everything once again.

>>34311106
>by coping the SCAR and not a gun designed in the 1940s. it's also not built in a shed by like 12 people at a dying company so there's some level of quality and R&D involved.

I don't understand why SwissArms isn't able to lower their prices. If their guns were a little cheaper a lot of people would buy it. And are they even into R&D anymore ?

Why is B&T fine and SwissArms not ? Is the direction that stupid ?

>>34312452
I've always used the white rags to avoid contact between the steel and the gas tube.

>>34312733
>Europeans failing at everything once again

Friendly reminder that even your White House has been blacked

>>34309967

I dunno what you're talking about, I have a 556.

>>34312903
Just like me :^)

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>>34312946

>>34312410
Pffft that new galil ugly as hell though.
> mudtestit

>>34312903
Only nation to have successfully gone black and gone back.

Lets see if your country can do the same, stone yourself faggot.

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>>34313063

No.

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>>34309976
>ak
>best rifle
hmm, pull that one out of the mud 50 years later too?

>>34313191
The 556 is not an original swiss made Sig 55x you nigger

>>34312839
>SwissArms isn't able to lower their prices
In order to get the swiss made label despite just being a parts assembler from pieces shipped to them from Germany they exploit swiss laws that factor worker wage into the equation.

All of their guns are german made. there's no stamping going on in their little shed. they have a limited cnc capacity which is what they spend a tiny fraction of time on developing/making mounts for the 550 family. the rest of their business is refinishing guns for the army using german parts.

to their credit. they did brush off the SIG SAPR design in 762 and made a 762x39 version of their 553

>why is B&T okay?
modern manufacturing and designs. extruded aluminum is cheap as fuck as is polymer injection. they have active contracts and r&d going on.

there's no comparison between them and the has been swiss arms desu. being a gov entity and sucking from the gov teat kills ingenuity and profit analytics.

>>34313537
they aren't gov owned now btw. the damage was done a long time ago.

>>34313537
Who makes the parts in Germany?

>>34313570
SIG Sauer GMBH made everything for years. the swiss equipment and stamping were worn out after the contract ended.

I believe L&O subcontracts it out now but I don't follow swiss guns much anymore.

>>34313537
Proof that the pieces are made in germany ?

Btw my question was more why can't swiss arms go the same way as B&T ? Are they that retarded ?

>>34313720
>Proof that the pieces are made in germany ?
just go to their website and look at their facility on google earth. if that doesn't prove it nothing I say will.

I have this discussion every time in every single 550 thread and it's tiresome.

>>34313720
>why can't swiss arms go the same way as B&T ? Are they that retarded ?
because sig sauer exists. if you mean import wise, they do import them as pistols *553P) same as B&T.

>>34313754
No. Why Swiss Arms don't invest in modern equipment and R&D like B&T do ?

The Sig 55x family are really good guns but if it is too expensive to make and sell it for a reasonable price then they should go forward and develop a new rifle.

And can't they make a "modern" version of the 550 with cheaper material like the ones B&T uses ?

>>34313106
>mudtestit
its probably the best sealed AK rifle out there

>>34313822
>No. Why Swiss Arms don't invest in modern equipment and R&D like B&T do ?
Sig Sauer exists

>go forward and develop a new rifle.
they did and it's called the MCX

>cheaper material
no. if they tried people would cry that it was a piece of shit, just like IWI's ACE even though that gun still have a milled receiver.

they've used aluminum lowers, one takes stanag mags, for awhile now. that's about all you can do cost wise.

>>34313822
>if it is too expensive to make and sell it for a reasonable price then they should go forward and develop a new rifle
The whole shtick of Swiss arms is quality above all else. An el cheapo gun would be a complete 180.

>>34312946
Me too
How much did you pay for yours?
I hope I didn't over pay, mine was ~$950 after tax

>>34313882
>950 bucks
>for a SIG550

bad news but you got fucked

you can usually get them for 150+50 bucks

>>34313870
>Sig Sauer
>MCX

Fuck this shit. I talking about the true SIG, the swiss one. And swiss jobs.
And Sig Sauer makes shitty quality rifles. Juste look at the 556. Fucking germans ruining everything they touch.

>>34313877
Why not make both.

>>34313924
>Why not make both.
Because they know they'll never out-compete the Chinese, Russians, or Americans at dealing assfucktons of cheap guns.

>>34313924
the true company name is L&O. swiss arms exists in the same way vw and audi do. same company different brand. thy don't give shit bout it s long sells and ig sauer is more marketable.

support b&t. they're actually swiss owned.

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>>34313924
>Sig Sauer makes shitty quality
t.butthurt Sig hater

>>34313974
L&O holding owns
blaser
sig usa
sig sauer gmbh
swiss arms
mauser gmh

only thing swiss is the name and 12 guys in shed

>>34314010
only thing swiss is the name
If that were true it would be CH arms, no?

>>34314031
kek

Speaking of Sig Sauer... I can get two guns at a 50% discount.

Thinking a handgun and an AR.

P320, P226, P229 or a 1911 variant.

And then a M400/516 or MCX.

What do you think?

>>34313945
A cheap swiss rifle would never be as inexpensive as a an american or chinese one. But just with a "swiss made" brand and a low price it could be sold as rolls on swiss and european market. Even american market.

>>34313974
Yes but at least SwissArms are swiss jobs and industry. Why the fuck did SIG sold the firearms section to fucking Fritz ?

>>34313974
>support b&t. they're actually swiss owned.

I was already saving money for a TP9

>>34314059
>swiss jobs and industry
12 guys and a cnc machine (literally) maybe less now as they've been on the brink for years.
>why did they get sold
that I don't know. likely unprofitability like most small arms makers considering it got broken off of the industrial divisions. SIG itself is going strong in the packaging market. Owned by Canadians now actually.

>Today Combibloc is the last remaining business unit of SIG, its sole focus being machinery and materials for aseptic carton packaging.