Why are law enforcement agencies so worried about people who

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>>34303258
In Canada you have to be clean for the last 3 years
it used to be 5

>>34303258
Just should've said no broski. I never understood the whole Im ten beers deep but man I wish I could just get more fucked up. But you could also operate the bounty hunter life and be dog and shit. Or join the army. Or gitgud at polygraphs.

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>>34303258
>police officers are required to catalog and maintain chain of custody on seized drugs as part of their job requirements
>why don't they want me I just snorted a little cocaine/smoked a little meth in college fucking pig statists

>>34303666
I kind of feel bad for you because you've never experienced any cool drugs

>>34303258
Because drugs are for degenerates

>>34303696
Its this the druggies only argument?

"WELL YEA BRO SO WHAT IF I CAN'T BE A COP AT LEAST I GOT HIGH LMAO"

Junkies disgust me.

>>34303258
it has less to do with drug use and more to do with the applicant pool for law enforcement jobs for the past decade: a shit ton of vets.

you need to differentiate yourself by holding a good degree and doing some productive shit in the private sector, two things most vets can't touch, no offense vets

>>34303666
You think someone who has been clean for 5 full years and is subject to drug testing on demand should be fine

The real reason is likely that if they broke the law over bullahit drug regs they know that a lot of laws are bullshit in their heart

>>34303749
I don't take drugs anymore, and I haven't for years.

Holy fuck though man you have some of the most sour grapes I've ever tasted/

>>34303749
Lets be honest here family. Lack of doing drugs means you were probably a social outcast as a child and lack of hard drugs means you were never a cool kid even if you did have a few friends

>>34304097
This.

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>>34303258
Being a semi-functional alcoholic is encouraged but oh no you smoked a joint once.

It's shows you have broken the law.

>>34303258
It shows a pattern of stupid behavior and illegal activity. They have enough applicants to be picky about who they hire and don't have time for people they can't trust 100%

tl;dr don't break the law then get butthurt when you're not allowed to enforce it

>>34303749
This

>>34304775
>border patrol and police have enough recruits to be picky

No they dont

>>34304865
Yes, they do. It's not uncommon for LE openings in my area to get 1,000 applicants for 2 vacancies

>>34304957
They should just make a BA/BS a requirement then

>>34304097
>Yeah man, I'm cool for snorting meth!
Fucking delusional.

>>34304976
Never invited to parties: The Post

>>34304976
Doing it habitually: unhealthy

Never even experimented: Highly likely to have lived an unhappy life

>>34305008
Whatever you say man, you definitely know about my life.

>>34305023
>You've never even done meth once?! Bro you're totally living a shit life.
Like I said, delusional. You're trying to justify shit life choices to yourself.

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>>34303258
Because they're a bunch of faggots

>>34305028
I know you because I used to pick on you

>>34305157
kek alright man. I'm sure you were just the biggest, baddest, coolest guy around. I'm sure being so cool for 4 years at best was totally worth smoking drugs cut with brake cleaner.

>>34303258
One reason, although I've only heard this in the context of getting a security clearance as opposed to getting a job as a cop, is that it makes you vulnerable to blackmail. Someone who shows a proclivity towards drug use is more likely to get in a compromising situation. That one has always made sense to me versus morality-type arguments.

I agree it's a bit antiquated though, and probably keeps a few decent recruits from joining.

>>34305256
You just confirmed it by being so defensive and having such sour grapes famalam

>>34305059
kek

>>34303258
Because choosing between the applicant who hasn't snorted and has is easy.

>>34305023
>>34305041
Yeah I'v actually done meth accidentallyit was actually cut coke, but I am ashamed and I'm not touching that shit ever again.

It's not an indicator of living a good life, I could've done without trying that degenerate shit.

That said, polygraphs are fucking stupid.

>>34303258

It's to show how much integrity and trust you have.

They aren't going to hire people who lie.

>>34303666
>People don't change
>Being clean for years doesn't mean shit
Okay man

users are losers. this isn't news.

>>34304097
I saw what it did to my uncles, so experimenting with any of that shit was a no go for me.
Still had plenty of friends who smoked and whatnot, never chastised them or anything.
Just politely turned down offers from people.

>>34305400
Sorry but Satan was right.
>>34305307
>sour grapes
You're the one pretending high school matters.

>>34305410
>use prescription opiates after I recover from the pain
>am now a "loser" for the rest of my life
k

>>34305416
No faggot. You are the one saying it matters probably because of your traumatic experiences

I'm saying it doesnt and shouldnt matter if a kid did drugs in HS/College and has been clean for a few years

>>34305421
if the shoe fits, wear it. if you're that weak-willed that you got hooked on vicodin then you shouldn't have a law enforcement job.

>>34305547
>No faggot. You are the one saying it matters probably because of your traumatic experiences.

>Never invited to parties: The Post
>I know you because I used to pick on you
Yup, sure.

>>34305575
>prescribed 30-day supply
>only "need" 15 days
>take the rest at my leisure
>never pursue any more
>never take it unless it is prescribed again
>"hooked"
okay lol

>>34305609
Yes because you are still the same loser with a loser attitude in the year 2017 as you were when you were younger

You were a loser for a reason and its the cancerous and caustic attitude you are displaying right here right now plus probably poor fashion sense and overweight

>>34305659
Man, you're telling me I'm sour grapes?

>>34305685
yes look at the shit you are posting

Its typical of grown men who got picked on when younger and cant let it go in their subconscious

>>34303666

Really tame post for satanic trips.

>>34303258
Once a criminal, always a criminal

>>34305646
Why do you associate yourself with users then?

I did coke and still got accepted into LE.

Cry harder you fucking virgins

>>34305745
Because my answer on a polygraph comes up the same as a habitual user.

I have to answer "yes I've used drugs recreationally" just the same

>>34305746
i know a guy who works as a deputy sheriff and he did coke and smoked weed all the time in high school but he went to military and shit so they probably saw that as straightening him out

they care more about your honesty and how much time elapsed since you stopped. also if you were just casually using or also doing crimes and shit like selling and stealing

>>34305765
Well fuck dude you have only yourself to blame then

>>34305801
yeah bro totally my fault and not that the EPPA doesn't apply to the government for some reason right

You have to admit it's a little bit bullshit.

>>34303258
it's not a lie if you believe it.

>>34305798
>Yes sir Cocaine off of a chick Iphone and don't forget those raves with the X/Molly.

>Also its college man smoking weed every week never hurt anyone

This is the average person in 2017. Honestly wont get you anything

>>34305704
>yes look at the shit you are posting
That you don't need to do hard drugs to be the cool kid like you're saying here >>34304097 or that you're trying to justify past bad decisions with assumptions and projections here >>34305008 >>34305023 or that you're making asinine assumptions about a stranger on the internet here >>34305157 >>34305307 >>34305547?

You did dumb shit in the past, and now you're disqualified from certain jobs and aspects of life that you may or may not want to partake in (idk if you're OP). That's just how it is. Don't try to pretend you were the cool kid, or that people who have more innate common sense or a better upbringing than you who didn't make those retarded decisions are somehow less than you.

>>34303666
>Any drugs other than weed and beer
>ever

kek enjoy ur ded

>>34305870
This
As much as I value honesty, I also very much hate stupidity. Don't ever tell the truth, not even to yourself.

>>34305059
>I even did DRUGS

Pass the fucking polygraph then, wow

>>34306153
I did its when they laid my 4chan post history out on the table did the security portion end

>>34306178
Things that never happened

If 4chan was what got anyone dq'd from anything nobody in fucking CDCR would have a job, period.

>>34306178
>4chan post history
It's an anonymous image board. They cannot get your "post history". Goddamn at least take longer than 3 seconds to think up your lie.

>>34303258
>WHY IS AMERICA SUCH A SHITHOLE!?
Uhhh dont you have guns for exactly this reason? Rise up.

>>34305931
Look at this autist angst post I rest my case

>>34306193
>>34306283
Its true. They said my application was great, polygraph showed no problems but they found something they wanted to show me.

It was a mixture of screen caps and text with posting times. With it going back as far as 2012 with a post on /pol/ going "nigger nigger nigger"

And that was just the beginning. It was terrible it took 2 hours like they were pressuring me to admit some sort of hate crime or sedition

>>34306408
>Americans will believe this

>>34303258
>Federal agencies that require a college degree like Border Patrol automatically disqualify if you've ever done a drug harder than marijuana.l and then polygraph on it.
I'm sure you can see the rationale for not allowing drug users patrolling a border which is often used by drug traffickers.

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>>34303749
>>34303666
this

>>34306535
They arent user though and havent been for years

They are probably better than drug virgins because they know the effects first hand

>>34306669
any other country on earth would look at it that way

but you live in america

this is the future you chose.

here in canada, when you join the cops or forces, and say youve never done drugs, they investigate you harder because you're either lying through your teeth or are a fucking know-nothing nerd -- neither of which is desirable.

>>34305008
I can't imagine anything less cool than a fucking college age hipster buying a dime bag.

>>34306734
idk even here in mtl most people buy weed in non-bulk amounts. maybe like 5g at a time but youre still paying 10/g unless youre really close to the seller. and i mean like sucking their dick long term. and not just for drugs, like, youre getting married soon

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>>34303258
ITT: Junkies getting defensive that they fucked their lives and career opportunities up forever and pretend they're cool because of it

Seriously, you fags are like the guys who start threads about having an ND and then when everyone shits on them for being retarded they try to pull a "if you've never had an ND you've never held a gun" excuse out of their ass.

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>>34306377
How's minimum wage? Are you in a state that has a high one or are you a burnt out trailer park junky?

>>34306862
>being this close minded

>>34303258
why do i feel like people that have taken drugs in the past and now want to become cops have a high risk of being trash?

Drugs are great in moderation but why the fuck would you want to become a cop?

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>>34303258
> 2017
> Wanting to be a pig who enforces bullshit drug and gun laws.

Bro?

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>>34306882
>why the fuck would you want to become a cop?
Parental abuse, having gotten bullied in high school, feelings of inadequacy compared to your old peers, wanting to live out a character from an old D&D campaign, that sorta thing.

>>34303267
Seems about right.
Bunch of sideways cucks in Canada, they'll let anybody represent the government.

>>34306805
Basically this

I ate a metric fucking ton of shrooms and smoked dope for years. I wouldn't then expect to become a cop and then get ass blasted that my poor decisions stopped me from doing so.

>Also
What kind of fuckups do you have to perform to have being a fucking cop be your best option? Seriously I'd rather be a god damn garbage man than deal with that shit.

>>34304449
It's illegal, John Lennon.

>>34306874
>using a liberal defense from the early 2000s
How's being a faggot going for you?

>>34306957
LEOSA letting you carry in cuck states

>>34306912
Drugs are illegal for a reason you confused and arrogant whore.

I noted a recent This American Life episode about polygraph testing.

I'm no expert, but the polygraph seems like a very flawed instrument. If Doug Williams is right (and the fact that government was prepared to jail him suggests he is) then any Jackass can beat this testing. I mean, if he was offering a course on opening bank vaults with his mind I don't think he would be in a federal jail just now.

That means a lot of Polygraphed people might actually be liars and huge security risks. That kind of shit keeps me up at night.

Anyway here it is:

https://m.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/618/mr-lie-detector

>>34306987
Theres literally 99.99% of all jobs that dont polygraph you dolt

And minimum wage jobs drug test far more than upper echelon ones. But I wouldn't expect a low intel pleb to know that

>>34304449
No one cares about joints. It's the hard drugs like meth and heroin that agencys care about. If you haven't smoked pot in over a year then you're good.

>>34307000
Right.

In the case of marijuana it was the textile industry, in the case of LSD it was the beatle-mania etc etc

>>34307009
I wouldn't expect you to create your own story and construct your own narrative. But here you are.
Junkie cunt getting btfo.

>>34307035
Did you watch a documentary on Netflix telling you about how harmless pot is?
that's really neat.

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>>34307079
You got BTFO to the next dimension in the thread already. Trying to turn it on others just makes you look petty. But self-awareness was never your strong suit, probably due to lack of meaningful human contact during your formative years.

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>>34307109
I'm not arguing with you.

The only female cop in my home town was a notorious crack whore in her early years. The highest ranking guy there (sergeant I think, super small PD) was easily over 300 pounds of fat. I guess you can get away with whatever when your town only has like 8 cops total.

>>34307127
I just got here my man, you delusional nigger.

>>34307143
Cool glad we could agree that drug laws and the war on drugs in the US is a big load of shit and I'm also glad you'll be voting to legalize all drugs as well as end the war.

>>34307160
I don't agree with your statement.
Drugs ruin people's lives and corrupt morale.

>>34307173
>Drugs ruin people's lives and corrupt morale.
and guns kill people

are we done here?

>>34307173
>corrupt morale

Looks like lack of them fuck up mental ability

>>34306957
Don't know about America, but up here in Canada being a cop is actually a really good job, 4 days on 4 days off making $80,000+ a year with triple overtime.

>>34307184
If you wanna talk about fallacies, you just dealt one.
Guns and drugs are mutually exclusive.
You smug faggot.

>>34307187
>coming from the guy that can't formulate a coherent thought

>>34307219
>Guns and drugs are mutually exclusive.
what did he mean by this

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>>34303258
>Federal agencies that require a college degree like Border Patrol automatically disqualify if you've ever done a drug harder than marijuana.l and then polygraph on it.

I do find it odd that alcohol isn't on the agencies list considering how widely available and abused it is, especially by people who are already in the agency

For you dense junkies--doing drugs alters your mind for the rest of your life. And you've gotta be totally insane to think the state wants someone with an altered perception--not to mention that believes it's okay to the break the law--in charge of enforcing the law.

>>34307233
corrupt the morale of whom?

Your sentence lacks a subject

>>34307239
I mean you conflated the two subjects to fit your poorly constructed argument to make it seem like you were in the right because you're too lazy or stupid to realize that guns and drugs are separate subjects, and shouldn't be clumped together.

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>>34307255
>doing drugs alters your mind for the rest of your life

>>34307269
>[INANIMATE OBJECT] can kill you!
>[INANIMATE OBJECT] can kill you!
>[INANIMATE OBJECT] can kill you!
spot the difference: protip one is about drugs, another is guns and the third is heavy machinery!

>>34307268
Of the people.
Just because you're confused doesn't mean what I said lacks something.
LSD, for example, was used to deconstruct thought and manipulate opinions of people at a personal level. The CIA even used it as truth serum and for brainwashing.
Marijuana does this in a much more pernicious and covert manner.

I don't want someone totally fucked out of their mind in charge of laying down the law.

>>34307277
>Junkie wants empirical evidence of something occurring
Reality doesn't have enough evidence to support the statement?
Even if it doesn't, I'm sure you could look it up yourself.

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>>34307297
>and the third is heavy machinery!
[heavy breathing]
I fear (respect) guns for the same reason I do lathes and chop saws. You wouldn't aim a nailgun at your bro, you wouldn't carry it around loaded and ready to fire, why would you do the same with a pistol or rifle?

>>34307300
nice misconceptions I can totally tell you've never taken drugs before in your life

>>34307316
>what is the burden of proof
I'd be amazed if you have a high school equivalency diploma

>>34307297
there you go again generalizing everything to fit whatever it is you're trying to convey.
I can't believe liberals actually believe what you're saying.
These are complex subjects.
I don't are that you do drugs, but you definitely shouldn't be held in high esteem--or the law.

>>34307323
Okay good, we're getting somewhere.

If you can use the firearms and heavy machinery safely, then why not drugs?

>>34307328
I can't believe you're still trying to dodge with the liberal boogeyman

>>34307325
>I can totally tell you've never taken drugs before in your life
Sport, you're totally out of your element here.
I've done everything. Ex junkie here, and I can tell you, that it causes irreversible damage. Pull your head out of your ass, and one day you might snap out of it.

>>34307325
>I'd be amazed if you have a high school equivalency diploma
Actually, I'm in college.
You're a really condescending faggot, I can tell you're a heavy lifter--probably work with your hands.

>>34307337
>I can't believe you're still trying to dodge with the liberal boogeyman
Chord struck.
Maybe you should pay attention, instead of focusing on me calling you out.

>>34307350
lol just lol

Fuck junkies. Drugs are illegal for a reason, you guys are weak-minded for doing them in the first place. You have no place in a position of authority.
Deus vult.

>>34307337
you mistake who I am; I don't mind drugs. I happen to mind firearm, automobile, or heavy machinery usage while on drugs (including alcohol) but really I don't mind drugs beyond the sorts of economies they create. And living in Montreal, weed being legal doesn't bother me, and I feel regulating coke would only be a problem because it'd disrupt the status quo.

>>34303258
It's not unreasonable. They're screening for if you're a still a user primarily, and if you're a bit of a security risk on it even if you're not since some people probably think like >>34307366.
Personally I don't think you can hate drugs and users for the problems they cause till you experience it all. Someone that has never done it is much more likely to fall prey to it if exposed for the first time.

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>want to be a cop
>used drugs before
It's the cognitive dissonance test.
You are officially a major league asshole if you are willing to enforce drug legislation when you benefited from not getting caught violating the same legislation.

>>34307300
You mean the MORALS????

And your brain is supposed to be undamaged? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

>>34307395
You don't have to get everyone you catch with a gram of weed, but Bill who has been on the force for 30 years certainly will.

>>34307300
>the CIA used it for...
The CIA attempted to use LSD for those purposes during the MKULTRA tests. They determined that LSD was useless to them because they couldn't produce any real results.

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>>34307395
>used drugs before
aren't caffeine and alcohol considered drugs?

>>34307446
Only if you're a Mormon.

>>34307446
id make a joke but really

no

theyre not

>>34303258
>>34303258
I agree OP I did hard drugs from 16 to 20 and I'm clean as fuck and successful now. I don't even drink. I'm on the dean's list and on the track towards graduating summa cum laude. Yet I can't join a shithead alphabet outfit like DEA or FBI? Bullshit.

>>34303258
What we did was mix some opiate, a little white, amphetamine, benzo, and a little muscle relaxant. You grind it all up in a mortar and pestle, divvy it out, then toot while having a few drinks and smokes.

We called it Browning High Powder.

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>>34307455
>do drugs
>clean up, change life
>join DEA
>bust 20 year old dudes doing the same shit you did
>your scumbag superiors force them to act as snitches
>some of them get caught and killed
>others refuse to cooperate out of fear and wind up with felony records

>>34307454
Uhh... alcohol is one of the most powerful sedative hypnotics on the planet.

>>34303258
>Why are law enforcement agencies so worried about people who did drugs years ago?
>Even the smallest rural agencies seem to polygraph these days.
>Federal agencies that require a college degree like Border Patrol automatically disqualify if you've ever done a drug harder than marijuana.l and then polygraph on it.
>It's insane someone can do cocaine in college in the early 2000s and still be DQd

BP doesn't require college.

BP disqualifies on polygraph if you're an idiot and LIE about it. Stock question is: "Aside from what we've already discussed, have you ever..."

A law enforcement agency doesn't want people who habitually lie, go figure.

T. Actual Border Patrol Agent

>>34307496
BP also auto disqualifies for hard drug use

Even as innocuous as molly

>>34307496
>polygeaph
>a good indicator of anything
Polygraphs are fucking garbage. They aren't even admissible in court because of all the false positives and negatives.
Funfact: One of the most prolific KGB moles in the US government passed two polygraphs and was put into the counterintelligence unit because he breezed through those bullshit tests.

>>34307491
It'd be funny. They got busted because they couldn't keep their shit on the DL like I did.

>>34307491
Mostly I'd be busting the type of assholes that sold the drugs to 20 year old me

>>34303749
Why do you think everyone wants to be a cop?

>>34307395
>nobody is allowed to change their minds
ok

>>34307493
Alcohol and heroin are ties for worst drugs in my mind. Alcohol will make you ruin your life (punch your girlfriend, run over kids while DUI, say some fucked up shit to your bosses wife, bang a chick without a rubber getting her preggers). Heroin let's you keep your control but is so good it's hard to cut down and takes a long ass time and strong willpower to quit.

>>34305765
Get the this American life pod cast Mr. Lie detector

Polygraphs are shit and proven to be fake

Basically if you tighten your sphincter like your holding a shit in

Or think of a happy place u can beat the test

How does a 22 year old with only 3 years of continuous full time Employment and a half completed B.S. in Mathematics get hired as a police officer? Obv not a felon or druggie

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>>34306969
It's also illegal to drive 0.00001 mph over the speed limit. And ingest alcohol of any kind under 21.

If you didn't ingest any alcohol during your youth you aren't white of free and proper Euro-Anglo-Nord-American heritage because that is a staple of the culture. And if you don't go over the limit designed for 18 foot boats from the 1950's you're a bootlicker in the worst way possible and you waste the time of all of society.

neck yourself haaji.

>>34306126
>And I was so good at it, it got me
>MORE DRUGS

>>34307173
>>34307219
>inanimate objects have the will and potential to negatively influence individuals
>guns don't count tho
do you see where you went full autism here?

>>34303258

because drug and alcohol users are degenerates who should not be trusted with power

t. hasn't had any alcohol in his life because mormon

>>34307817
This. I'm in the hiring process for a big ass city department. It's amazing when I took the exam hearing people talk about how they got busted and in trouble before but still think they can get hired. Some were black tho so maybe it won't matter.

>>34304097
>>34304106

both of you are the reason why America doesn't win anymore

don't worry, Sessions will put you back into the grave you belong in

>>34308636
Saying that guns have less influence on an individual than a mind-altering substance is autism now?
Explain.

>>34308380
Apply and pass the physical. Then go do the interview. If they like you then you are hired.

>>34308380
Apply? What you described you're qualified for the city I'm trying to work in. They require 60 credits/ AA degree or 4 yrs military with honorable discharge. You should look at what type of place you want to work at.

The funny part is that I know cops who started doing drugs after getting this job.

>>34306019
>He never tripped out on acid.
That shit works miracles on the mind and is completely safe.

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>>34308702
>implying that imbuing the power to deal instantaneous death to an individual does not alter their mind in some way
your critical thinking skills are not operating at the appropriate critical level.
>smoking cigarettes, drinking coffee, eating junk food, lack of sleep, internet use, media ingestion, lead exposure from firearm use, all alter your mind
>implying a person of sound mind can't ingest a substance and recreate and have a positive experience without long term side effects
>implying soldiers from every nation weren't ingesting pervitin while maximum operating during WWII
>implying your stupidity isn't a result of FAS because your mom is a degenerate alcoholic

>>34308760
Not that anon but I did dmt a few weeks back. Does that count?

>>34303258
>applying to organization that enforces the law
>mad that they won't accept someone who has violated the law

>>34305400
stastistically? correct

>>34308808
I hope you drive or the speed limit or drank alcohol under the age of 21

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>>34308786
>>implying soldiers from every nation weren't ingesting pervitin while maximum operating during WWII
m80 thats was only spordos my man we cant all ski on speed because there isnt enough white on the ground innit

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>>34304449
>anyone who disagrees with this man

>>34307000
Yea because Nixon wanted to put blacks and hippies in jail.

It's not to so much that they care you did drugs; it's because you did something illegal. They want people who are completely and totally servile. Meaning the law is the law and it's right because it's the law. Free thinking is discouraged, and I really don't mean that in a demeaning way. It's a useful trait to have in soldiers and other offices where your job is to serve. In that capacity, being servile is ideal.

>>34303749
LSD was pretty cool and I can still get a real job instead of living off tax dollars and road piracy.

Bootlickers disgust me.

>>34308699
Fun fact: America stopped winning about the time we started the war on drugs. So despite your "feelings" history says otherwise.

>>34306923
>wanting to live out a character from an old D&D campaign
kek.
I know a girl who joined the police to be a paladin.

She's ok I guess, not into pushing people around and focuses on sexual assualt/abuse cases.

>>34311297
>Yea because Nixon wanted to put blacks and hippies in jail.
That and Hurt wanting to kill off the hemp industry. It really helps that the casual drug users mostly voted democrat.

>>34311746
The fact that industrial hemp is illegal just because it looks like pot is proof that it was never about protecting kids or whatever.

Being an agent sucks ass anyway. Don't worry about it.

>>34307350
>Ex junkie
>Actually, I'm in college.

fucking gold. ITT children tell adults how to live their lives.

>>34303258
Kids these days are really hopeless.

Just fucking lie, you twat! It's not like they can prove anything with the polygraph anyway. In the worst case they'll check a blood or urine sample and will see that you're clean.

ITT: Crackheads and drooling brain dead stoners try to justify their degenerate lifestyles

There's a reason you guys don't live long or achieve anything worthwhile, you know?

>>34313054
Please name 2 tech CEOs who could have passed a piss test in college.

>>34307873
If you have changed you mind: please report to the jurisdiction you did drugs in and turn you self in to the local authorities. Thank you.

>>34304097
>im cool because 7 gram rocks in my veins
sure you are

>>34308079
Valium will also help
>if you are in to that sort of thing

>>34307277
It's true, I once took a Vicodin and now I'm gay

>>34307395
>Want to enforce traffic laws
>Broke the speed limit one time

Fucking delusional pathetic egotistical wannabe pig statist boot licking fascist motherfuckers should be hanged

>>34304775
the law all the time anon...hell they break the law to, "enforce" the law

>>34314054
Eric Schmidt
Mark Zuckerberg (you know he wasn't invited to those sorts of parties and didn't know where to buy weed)

>>34311829
>The fact that industrial hemp is illegal just because it looks like pot is proof that it was never about protecting kids or whatever.
Sure, though that one was more on Hurst than anyone else.

>>34303258
1) Shows poor judgement, lack of ability to follow basic laws (Seriously, drugs are so easy to NOT do its absurd)
2) Makes you unable to be trusted to handle drugs when you confiscate them, you've used them previously, why not think you can get away with it now?
3) You make a drug arrest, the defense lawyer pulls your record, which is public information. You have a history of drug use. Suddenly to the jury, you could have had the drugs yourself.
4) Most hard drugs, even with casual use, carry long term health risks with them. Amphetamines (Meth, Coke, Crack) have long term effects on the heart, Opiods are practically immediately addictive, to the point that people clean 15+ years still crave them.

>>34305400

I think you're missing the point. Most of what a background investigation does is establish patterns, aside from verify you've been truthful.

Having used illicit drugs, that shows a pattern of risk taking, recklessness, and disregard for the law.

>>34317091

Yeah, you covered that pretty well.

>standing by for OP's butthurt response

>Tfw done weed, Adderall, NBOMe, and DXM, all in college
>officer inna Navy now, in flight school
>slightly paranoid that one day the Navy is gonna polygraph me and ask if I've ever done drugs

>>34317615
Your dumb. Pilots don't deal with any sensitive stuff.

>Federal agencies that require a college degree like Border Patrol

Border Patrol don't require a degree. You can go in as a GS-5 with just a high school diploma.

Also as far as why they ask about drugs, it's the same reason why they ask if you've stole shit. They want to see if you've obeyed the law.

Most don't care about weed anymore unless you're a habitual user. As long as you admit and you've never used hard shit they don't care

t.copfag

>>34303258
If youre worried about your drug history let me tell you a little story about how I got my TS/SCI.

>All started when I was 22
>Close to graduating and worried about not having enough experience
>Started looking into various contractors who had gov contracts
>Land one working at a three letter agency's less known sites
>Pre screening after getting the offer which basically determines your eligibility to get your clearance
>All pretty squeaky clean on paper
>Get to drug question
>Admit to using marijuana quite regularly throughout high school into freshman year of college
>One or two times with shrooms in high school
>Move forward in process
>Get sponsored for clearance
>Pass CI and Lifestyle Poly

Bottom line its all about the whole person concept. If you aren't a jackass and can articulate that you aren't the person who does drugs any more than you should be good. Also, a lot of fed jobs just give you the "Sorry, however you did not meet the standards to continue on to the next stage of selection" blanket answer so most of the time its not just the drugs but the whole person concept where in addition to the drugs you didn't meet other required qualifications.

because "muh flashbacks"

Cops don't understand how LSD works. Then again, slight visual distortion under stress can be an effect of HPPD so eh.

>>34317615
>polygraph

As people have mentioned several times, including in this thread, a polygraph is nothing but a prop that measures a few biometics that have nothing to do with lying.

They detect some responses associated with stress, but again, that's meaningless. Just being interviewed is stressful for many people.

The best way to "beat" one is to ignore the fucking machine. It's an interview. Keep your answers clear and consistent. Don't give away anything. Don't admit to anything.

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>loving myself some beer
>and longdrinks
>and shots
>get fat
>cut out most calorie dense foods
>mfw alcohol has calories like drinking canola oil
>consider stopping to drink alc and instead smoke pot to relax because it has no calories

>>34319497
Strong alcoholic drinks barely have anything in them unless all of 200 Calories to get shitfaced is too much. Stop drinking beer.

>>34319507
But the calorie counter tells me 100g of alcohol has about 700 calories.

>>34303258
Past behavior indicates possible future behavior. They don't want some shithead in an important position, and neither does pretty much all of society so fuck off deg.

>>34319497
Cut the food, only drink at the end of the day or with dinner

>>34319507
Alcohol is pretty fucking calorie dense even in hard liquors, in fact, the higher the proof, the higher the calorie count

>>34319497
how about you run for while to burn those calories lardass

>>34317021
>Eric Schmidt
Genuine curiosity: how do you know he didn't smoke weed? He went to school in cali, you know, where the weed lives.

>>34311688
Good. Cops need to prioritize violent crime investigations above bullshit victimless drug offenses and ticket blitzes to drum up revenue.

They have loads of people applying and weeding out drug users is an easy way of doing it.

There's also the point that if you buy or use drugs you associate with and support criminals. You have literally committed crime with criminals. You have their phone numbers on your phone.

>>34303258

Because if you have ever smoked weed, you probably know that the "war on drugs" is a massive failure and nothing more than a way to keep Mexicans and blacks poor and in jail.

People who become police officers are essentially mindless drones who love the feeling of power. Critical thinkers, or people with real-life experience are not what theyre looking for.

>>34320808
Pass me what you are smonking bro haha

>>34320904

I dont smoke weed. I did it when I was in Amsterdam and quickly realised how fucking harmless it is compared to even alcohol.

Keep projecting your pathetic 60s attitudes, which have made the US the Western nation with the highest number PER CAPITA of incarcerated people.

Maybe you shouldn't have done drugs you filthy hippy degenerate. I bet you voted for Obama.

Switch to scotch. It improves your tactical situation

>>34321285

Let me guess, you drink "scotch" (its called whiskey you daft cunt), because you think it makes you appear more masculine and sophisticated.