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Forward assists serve no purpose on AR15s

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Try to give me one good reason why forward assists are useful on AR15s, and not outright harmful or dangerous.

I'll wait...
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>>>>/arfcom/
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>>34284603
way to beat a dead horse
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>>34284603
SF guys are taught to use the FA to quietly need to chamber a round you will need the FA to fully get the rnd into battery

>tada
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>>34284603
>hurr
Uh.. if the bolt doesn't go all the way forward after battery, you can press the button to advance the bolt forward into proper placement?
>harmful or dangerous
Nigga you what?
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>>34284672
Chambering a round is still pretty fucking loud even if you ride the bolt forward and close it using the FA.

>>34284692
If there's enough shit to in the action to prevent a round from chambering, you're going to create a larger problem by forcing a round in the chamber.
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>>34284603
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>>34284692
>if the bolt doesn't go all the way forward after battery

is this an admission of shit design?
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for fucks sake all you forward assist deniers just die already
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I'm going to make a webm. Be right back
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>>34284854
Best deliver
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>>34284854
>>34284877
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You pull it back to reload. I do it all the time on CS:S
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>>34284921
>bcm
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>>34284603
Faggot
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I fucking refuse to believe that some people are actually fucking retarded enough to not see how a forward assist on a gun without a reciprocating charging handle could come in handy. I'm convinced it's just one giant meme troll.
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G3 and FAL don't have a forward assists, what now atheists?
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>>34284935
There's literally nothing wrong with BCM.
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>>34284739
>>34284949
>>34284951

If it's useful, it should be pretty easy to point out how.
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>>34284974
Because the charging handle is used as a forward assist.
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Why can't you just push the charging handle foreward?
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>>34284974
is that a ptr 91
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>>34284951
>refuse to believe that some people are actually fucking retarded enough to
Welcome to post-Sandy /k/, where the most obvious of things get tossed out the window because Karl gave his dogshit opinion in a YT vid so it's now considered gospel.

The best thing to do is act like a complete and total condescending asshole to the people like this and beat the stupid out of them via verbal abuse.
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>>34284716
>If there's enough shit to in the action to prevent a round from chambering, you're going to create a larger problem by forcing a round in the chamber.

What if it simply isn't powerful enough or too cold outside to push it in to action. Simply having gunk in the action isn't the sole reason an AR couldn't chamber properly.
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>>34284990
A non-reciprocating charging handle can't be used to force the bolt into battery. Kind of like how your mother couldn't manage to force you to die as a child. Shame.
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>>34284992
Stoner was a hack.
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>>34284716
>Chambering a round is still pretty fucking loud even if you ride the bolt forward and close it using the FA.

No. No it isn't. Why are you just making shit up? What are you getting out of this?
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>>34284974
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>>34285079
Push on the scallop in the bcg?
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>>34285074

Yes, it is. If you're in a situation where it's quiet, and you need to be silent, chambering a round by riding the charging handle forward and using the FA is still loud and would make enough noise that it could give you away.

Using a FA itself is not loud, but the act of the bolt and carrier, and buffer moving, and a round being stripped from a mag makes quite a bit of noise.

Stoner never intended for ARs to have FAs.
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>>34285106
Not nearly as convenient, no in-line force, can get hot after prolonged use. In short, gay as fuck and inferior to an assist
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>>34285129
>Yes, it is
You don't have an AR.
>Stoner never intended for ARs to have FAs.
Stoner also didn't want it to have chrome lined barrels apparently, so I dunno why you would ever think this line of argument had anything resembling weight.
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>>34285134
But yeah again, why would you need it in the AR if you don't need it in the G3 or the FAL?
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>>34284603
Really activated my almonds

https://youtu.be/V-AShfEmzEk
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>>34285155
>these totally different rifles don't have this thing, so why would you want to have that same thing with -this- rifle?
Weekend posting is in full force
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>>34284981
>bright white BCM logo on everything
>nothing wrong
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>>34285162
>eugene boner had no idea what he was doing when he said forward assists are for gays

try again
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>>34285155
The AR also doesn't have a piston like the G3 or FAL, I guess it needs one now according to your logic of how those two irrelevant Cold War battle rifles are the basis by which all modern rifles are judged now.
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>>34285183
>G3
>piston
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>>34285148

you're right. i don't have an ar, faggot
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>>34285206
>"ARs shouldn't have FAs because Stoner said so"
>Has an opticless M4gery with stock clamshell handguards
Never fails. :^
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>>34284620
Fuck arfcom, other than their EE that site has died, they use 4chan and facebook memes or buzzwords that cringe to the bone.
Imma get drunk and start an arfcom hate thread later... all that said I covet muh ARs... just fuck that site.
As far as the forward assist aspect.. it was a gov request for prototypes at the time that stuck. Oh well...
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>>34285161
>makes a bunch of noise

it's silent, guys!
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>>34285170
hang on, making a webm
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>>34285226
>implying i don't have an aimpoint coming in the mail

>m4gery
>midlength

sure thing, bud
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>>34284603
My PMI who taught me to shoot said to push it. So I push it. I push it real good.

Wild thang.
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>>34285259
>implying i don't have an aimpoint coming in the mail
It's a PRO/used CompM2, isn't it.
>m4gery
>midlength
You have a basic-bitch stock flat-top carbine you slut, it's M4gery in every way save for the gas profile. Get back to your hole with your povertygrade rifle and your clueless opinions.
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>>34285282
Blue board, you faggot!
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>>34285148
>Stoner also didn't want it to have chrome lined barrels apparently

nice myth u got there fucking faggot

>The AR platform was first tested (as the AR-10) by the Army ordnance board in 1956; and it was rejected, for various stated reasons only one of which was true. The original AR10 had a light weight composite barrel, which would shatter in heavy rain or extremely cold temperatures. During the original ordnance board trials, Stoner decided that the one legitimate complaint the board had was that the rifle needed a conventional barrel, and the bore needed to be chrome lined (in fact, Stoner had always thought so. The lightweight aluminum and compsite barrels were not his idea, they were forced on him by the president of Fairchild, John Sullivan).
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>>34285292
not him but whoa niggah don't be hating on comp m2s. they still work great.
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>>34285170
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>>34284716
I use my FA all the time. When I do a brass check I use it to reseat the bolt.
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>>34285328
HE DID IT
THE MADMAN

with that said i like how the KMR-Alpha rails just have black lettering
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>>34285328
Think of the resale value you just tanked you absolute madman.
>>34285322
I'm not going to let optical quality detract from my verbal abuse of some poor nigger who has bad opinions.
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>>34284974
>>34285050
fn stopped making the fal in place of the scarh, which has a reciprocation handler, which can be used as the anon said

checkmate rights of the free world
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>>34285344
oh okay if you're just hating on him in general and not hating on the comp m2 itself that's alright
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>>34284603
To be honest, if redesigning the AR from scratch I would've made it more like the Daewoo K2: a side charging handle, and with the recoil spring contained within the receiver rather than protruding from the back in the buffer tube.

In my opinion this would've made folding stocks much easier rather than the abortions you see on the aftermarket now, and killed the need for a forward assist: just tap forward on the (reciprocating) charging handle.
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>>34285360
Can't hate on a bombproof dot with absurdly long battery life senpaitachi.
>Which is exactly why shitting on the Eotech is a favorite pastime for me
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>>34285364
Reciprocating charging handles are shit.
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>>34285382
why?
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>>34285292
>posts EOTech
>hating on the PRO
Lol
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>>34285377
I hate practically everything about the eokek line, so of course it has the best reticle for a red dot on the market. Figures.
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>>34285377
i wish aimpoint would make a circle dot sight like holosun so i could have the best of both worlds
if those chink fuckers can make a durable sight with long battery life and circle dot capabilities surely the swedes can too
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>>34284921
>implying the bolt wouldnt go into battery if the charging handle was latched properly

Nigga. . . .
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>>34285396
Read, faggot.>>34285377

>>34285400
Holosun has it now too. If the Comp M5 ever gets it (which I doubt), you literally have no reason to get an Eotech ever again outside of a clone build.
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>>34285364
no ty worst korea shill

redesigning the ar15 properly would get you to the sig MCX

>fuk u i need side charging handle

no u dont does ur k2 daewoos have ambi charging handle capabiltahs
no i dont think so worst korea btfo
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>>34284921
l-lewd
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>>34285416
I WILL PAY $800 FOR NO GOOD REASON AIMPOINT FUCKING DO IT

my holosuns were $120-180 for the circle dot versions and the only bad thing i can say about them is the fact they say holosun on the side which doesn't hold the prestige of aimpoint
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>>34284603
I'd rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it

if a round doesn't go into battery and I absolutely need that round in battery for a life or death situation, that FA is worth it's weight
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>>34285129

Take your AR out right now, Put a round in and carefully chamber it... then do the same normally.

If you are telling me that they are both as loud, the you have proven you are a nogunz, yet alone don't own an AR
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>not having a way to apply forward pressure to the bolt

I can only assume that the people who don't want a forward assist have never used a rifle in the field.
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>>34285488
>implying the FA doesn't make a jam worse
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>>34285007
Man, fuck Karl and Ian. Their videos with unique guns are pretty cool. But their opinions are shit and their autistic, inconsistent mud tests just give more bullshit for retards to parrot.
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>>34285129
How it's done
>Bolt is locked to rear, no mag in gun
>Take 1 round
>manually place in chamber
>Pull back on charging handle, while pressing down on bolt release
>slowly guide BCG until it stops on the round in the chamber
>press the FA to get into battery
>Small click is made
>Carefully insert mag
>Second small click is made
Done
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>>34286089
hi gaston
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>>34286096
Thanks asshole, now there is a hole in my wall...
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>>34286119
So I guess you have an M231?
If you don't there is no way possible for that to happen there nogunz
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>Hurr chambering an AR is super loud.
I think you are playing too much vidia, or confused with an ak-47.
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>>34284603
Press check
Running a gun with a silencer
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>>34286119
the hole is the void in your head where your brain is missing. the forward assist pushes on the side of the bcg slightly and nothing else. if the ar doesn't fire immediately when normally pulling the charging handle and releasing it then riding the charging handle and using the forward assist isn't going to do anything different.
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>>34286139
Releasing the bolt catch so the bolt slams into battery ain't exactly quite mon ami
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>>34286119
>Found him
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>>34284603
Ar owners have extra bullshit buttons??? Doesn't your rifle just ya know...work right? Like an AK or sks...you only need bolt handle, mag release, safety and trigger...why is your rifle so shitty?

This is just more proof that AR are over engineered garbage. My God get a real fucking rifle that just works right.
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>>34286220
Try reloading an AK or an SKS anywhere near as fast as an AR
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>>34286220
>it just works
>except for when it doesn't work so much

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DX73uXs3xGU
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>>34286096
All these unneeded steps just to make rifle go bang...why would anyone accept such bullshit?

AR 15 is garbage stick
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>>34286231
Very easily done. Our bolt handles aren't awkwardly placed as fuck so our rifles function easier anyway.

Your shit is slow and complicated for no reason
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>>34285344
Little bit of acetone and its gone.
>>34285292
Was agreeing with you up until I saw that faggoty undertale tramp stamp
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>>34286243
no not at all, it's used for a niche purpose which is to put a rnd in a chamber in a very quiet way
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>>34285235
what next suppressors are silent too

loading your rifle autistically like that drastically changes how easy it is for billy badass to hear a rifle while he's on sentry
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>>34286257
Its very easy to drop a mag, load a new one, and chamber a round with an AR in 3 seconds or less with no training. AK can't do that.
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>>34286274
And shoot someone in loud way? Rifle should already have full mag or your doing it wrong. More parts=more shit to break.
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>>34286282
Bullshit. Easy to do with AK. Hell that's easy to do with an sks with tapco mags even. That's not special.

But charging your rifle in the first place is awkward and unwieldy as Hell on an AR.

Is this really what you guys tell yourselves to justify your purchases?
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>>34286290
>Are you going out of your way to be retarded?
Like I wrote above SF guys do this when in field after cleaning the rifle, or for what ever reason needed to take the round out.

This shit is not made up and is done / taught
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>>34286282
Perhaps if you used a real bullet you could get the job done without so many extra mags lol
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>>34286314
Enjoy levering your magazines in and out, then pulling the charging handle. Meanwhile AR's have straight magwells and this
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>>34286328
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>>34286328
>implying im not a .300BLK autist
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>>34286330
Yeah extra bullshit and a manual of arms that fucking changes during use...good job
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>>34286357
Stop being a brainlet and its easy
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>>34284974
PSG-1 has a forward assist. Checkmate theists.
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>>34285406
Since Holosun has come up, I've just gotten one from them. Read as much about them as I could find. I am curious what the general consensus is here though. I know it's not 600$+ so I'm not surprised if it's not 100% perfect, but for general use how do they hold up?
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>>34284603
After reading your rebuttals, this is my image of you
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AR 15 just isn't as good as other weapons anyway. And forward assist is an engineering band aid.
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>>34286482
An engineering band-aid that has practical application beyond fixing one issue
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>>34286595
More complicated bullshit and more shit to go wrong is not practical it's a major fuckin weakness.
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The forward assist is a terrible malfunction solution. If your AR isn't going into battery, you have a serious problem you need to have sorted out.

It's also redundant. That thumb-sized cut out on the bolt carrier is adequate to seat the carrier. If you can't apply enough force, you have a serious issue that needs sorted out.
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>>34286604
>completely disregards reason for "BUT IT BREAK EASY CUZ LOTTA PARTS"
Personally, my FA hasn't fucked up and its not a popular complaint. Also, thanks for swerving around the concept of multiple uses and applications in order to further your little sperg fit.
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>>34286672
but, how do you field strip your AR without your bolt being in battery?
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>>34285335
not even hating on the FA, just you personally

why the fuck do you do pushy checky?
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>>34284672
This. It's just a way of double checking you are in battery. Really a neat idea.

>>34284716
>Chambering a round is still pretty fucking loud
>even if you ride the bolt forward

You are a noguns, guaran-fuckin-teed. Riding the bolt forward means releasing it towards the chamber slowly, holding the violent spring action back with your hand on the charging handle. You have to press the forward assist to make sure the round is chambered properly. It's an almost totally silent action. Why do I come to this board it's full of fucking morons.
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>>34286417
holosuns are incredibly good for the price.
i have 1 aimpoint and 5 holosuns
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>>34284921
kek
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>>34286740
If you read more than the first sentence of the post, you'd have your answer.
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>>34285431
LOVe my holosun, got it with the acss reticule and it kicks ass
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>>34286870
And, y'know, the pivot pin slides out, too.
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>>34286740
Have you ever even held an AR?

you are either a nogunz, or are really bad with guns

The bolt is in battery to take it down, if the bolt was not the BCG would be in the buffer tube whch would prevent the gun from hingeing open

>ahah! but what if the gun is not in battery b/c or a serious issue!!!... then you cant take it apart!! Ha AR FAGS BTFO

Well no... b/c you remove the second pin and the hole upper comes off even if the BCG is out of battery for some reason.
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>>34286220
>>34286220
Try shooting up a bunch of republican man sized targets in broad daylight from like 30 yards away and see if you hit the broad side of a barn with your precious slav shit
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>>34286258
>that faggoty undertale tramp stamp
Which one? :3
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>>34284603
Two things.
One: Fuck you

Two: The AR-15 has a forward assist because it is a military firearm, in the military people are in the business of killing people and stand a chance of being killed themselves. It is comforting and essential to have a way to brute force fuck your rifle back into working order if a round doesn't chamber properly. Think about it, if you have a mosin and it fails to feed what do you do? Pull the bolt back a little bit and slam it forward really fucking hard.
Lets say you have a round jammed inside your AK? Put the butt on the ground and slam the bolt with your boot. If you have a rifle that can't be slapped back into working order it isn't a military rifle.
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>>34284603
presschecks
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>>34286318
>This shit is not made up and is done / taught
Proofs?
I keep seeing this "silent forward assist assassin" idea on /k/, but no one seems to have proofs.
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>>34286078
People who repeat this fuddlore are great because they immediately out themselves as morons right out of the gate
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>>34286808
Confirmed no ar15 shitter, the bolt snaps no matter how you do it if you put it in battery, there's a substantial gap the bolt head has to clear to get in battery.
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>>34287017
FUCK OFF
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>>34284672
> sf guys don't know if their weapons chambered
Not buying it. SF guys know their weapon is chambered long before they get within hearing distance of the goat fuckers. That's why they're sf and you're a mall ninja.
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>>34287193
you don't need second-hand proof if you can google it, fuck head
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>>34287386
aaaannd you're stupid. Can your simple walnut brain not come up with one of the many scenarios where shit might change?
>surprise attack by enemy
>in civilian infested AO
>emergency where you must use rifle that is not yours
I can keep going. Besides, SF doesn't equate to perfect, every one needs a double check here and there.
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>>34287391
>google "forward assist," "forward assist sof," "forward assist silent," "forward assist special forces"
>youtube nerds, arfcom posts, and unrelated results
OK yeah, you're full of shit and probably 16.
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>>34286040
>>34285129
>>34285074
>>34284716
>>34284672
>SF guys are taught to use the FA to quietly need to chamber a round you will need the FA to fully get the rnd into battery

This reeks of mall ninja bullshit. When in the entire history of the world has anyone needed to chamber a round quietly? If a Navy SEAL actually had to do this they would never shut the fuck up about it, it would be called something like "The Lebanese Tango" and range commandos would be doing it before, after, and during every reload.

And if you do find yourself in condition fabric in the middle of some super sekrit stealth mission why can't you just push the bolt carrier into battery with your thumb?
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>>34285292
Nigga, don't shit on the PRO. What did the PRO do to you?
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>>34285377
But dude, are you sure that your optic can function in -30 or at 150? I mean there was a callback. What if you're in a long range shootout on a super cold day and your point of impact has shifted like 2 feet at 100m?>>34285382
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>>34287381
I am eternal.
>>34287635
I'm not shitting on the PRO.
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>>34287662
>are you sure that your optic can function in -30 or at 150?
ACOGs and Colt 3x20s can function fine in either spectrum.
> What if you're in a long range shootout on a super cold day
I'll have an ACOG or a Colt 3x20 so I won't have to worry about that. Because neither is a fucking awful optic.
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>>34287669
>pic
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>>34287461
That is probably the dumbest James bond fantasy I've ever heard of. The rifle is loaded, chambered and with the safety on at all times unless stored or cleaning. End of discussion.
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>>34287669
>I'm not shitting on the PRO.
As long as you're only shitting on real life human beings for having their own opinions we're cool then.
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>>34284990
Only on Israeli FAL's and whatever civvie builds adopted that feature from them. Most FAL's have no forward assist.
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>>34287709
I have such sights to show you, anon.
>>34287748
>As long as you're only shitting on real life human beings for having their own opinions
Uhhhh, look who you're talking to bruh. It's all I do anymore.
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>>34285006

No you fucking retard it's a FAMAS
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>>34287493
>Lebanese Tango
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>>34287810
>Uhhhh, look who you're talking to bruh. It's all I do anymore
And you're doing the lords work.
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I agree, OP. Literally just extra weight. I think it's true purpose is actually to give MilSurpJude something to live for.
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>>34287939
Something to live for, besides faggy meme games*
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>>34287810
You're lying to yourself...
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>>34287493
Not to mention, why the fuck would you need to chamber a round quietly? If you're outside the wire, a round should already be chambered.
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>>34287669
Were you addicted to vaccines as an infant?
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>>34285377
It looks just like my video games wtf?
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>>34285129
They leave fobs ready to murder. If you think long haired fistfuckers are ever walking around on an op with an unloaded weapon, then of idiot shit dribblers, you're the very pinnacle; the acme of retarded posters.
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>>34287493
>condition fabric
I appreciate being reminded of this.
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>>34284603
To load a round quietly.
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>>34287461
>There's a surprise attack! Rounds flying everywhere and I have no gun as a member of a special operations unit deployed here!
>Better do my ninja load of this random unloaded gun so the guys shooting fucking rifles won't hear me!

You're fucking retarded beyond measure. Fucking enlist and learn how this shit actually works. You don't step off with an unloaded/no gun.
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>>34284603
Funny enough, I used my forward assist today when I was checking the chamber for a round and I guess didn't let the bolt set in fully and so I used the forward assist. Other than that, I never actually used it before, but I like the look of the upper having a forward assist vs not having one.
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>>34284603
Fuck the forward assist. Don't even need the deflector.

Rifle is comfy as fuck without them.
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>>34284603
What have you done now, dipshit?
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>>34287020
What do you do when your G3 or FAL don't go fully into battery?
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>>34290389
What upper you got?
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>>34284672
Can someone provide a meaningful example of a situation where this would be useful in any capacity?

>Going into the field without a round chambered
Idiot
>Reloading after emptying your suppressed weapon
Chances are the enemy is A) Dead, B) Already knows he's being shot at and probably already located you. C) You're far away enough for the sound to not matter.
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>>34285292
>undertale ejection port cover

Well, looks like I can throw anything this nigger has to say in the trash. Anyone have opinions not formed half way through performing 30 blowjobs?
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>>34290581
Part of the reason why those rifles are used by shit-tier countries these days
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>>34284603
Because those of us who have actually gotten our shiny rifles dirty know that it doesn't always work out perfrctly.

When you're halfway up a mountain in Afghanistan and haven't cleaned your rifle in a week all that fine dust coats fucking everything, including your rifle internals. Letting the bolt go home on an empty mag, the sand regularly prevented a full return to battery. It totally could between rounds but not relying just on spring pressure.

Normally for this reason I would try to count my shots carefully to leave one in the chamber between mags nut hitting the forward assist also worked, it just took a bit longer


>hurr just clean your rifle

Real easy to do in a fire fight.
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>all these people actually defending the ass covering called FA
Read a fucking book
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>>34284603
that's the primer, then you start it by pulling the T thingy. Then you tactical bowl cut till you run out of ammo. Thats whut they told md on CNN
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>>34284603
>forward assist
Mine was pinned when I bought it.
So was the adjustable stock.
And the magazines.
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>>34285416
>>34285377

Which holosun model would you reccomend? I'm looking for an affordable sight for my AR
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>>34285292
>undertale
you dare lecture people whilst destroying the beauty of your weapon with that?
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>>34284603
>and not outright harmful or dangerous.
But thats wrong, you retard. Its not a particularly useful feature but its not harmful in any way.
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>>34290727
Pls add me to steam friends bb.
>>34291060
A Primary Arms MD-ADS.
>>34291074
The cover is the most aesthetic part. It's also double-sided. <3
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>>34285226

There's literally nothing wrong with the A2 style hand guards. [spoiler] as long as they have a heat shield and not just plastic over the barrel [/spoiler]
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>>34287669
>Plymouth artisian peppercorn cheese
>Not buying Pecorino Peperino instead
Plebe
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>>34291312
Have fun mounting a light, foregrip, laser etc. if you don't like shitty attachment rails that only work at 12 and 6 positions.
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>>34291312
Learn to [spoiler] spoiler [/spoiler] faggot
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>>34285328
this is fucking great lmao
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>>34284951

I bet easy 70% of this place is kids and Europeans who don't own guns.

This is a board that would benefit greatly from knowing where the person is posting from so you could get an idea right off the bat whether the person has any fucking real world experience with the firearms they are discussing.
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>>34290772
boy are you special arent you the FAL sure the G3 is a fine rifle one I would put my trust into the germans did as a DMR
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>>34290847
>Real easy to do in a fire fight.
Just piss down the barrel.
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>>34284935
>Not being a GUNFIGHTER
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>>34291074
Yeah he should venerate the Emperor like me
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>>34285345
He cited the G3 and the FAL by name, neither of which can be forced into battery.
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>>34292616
BY THE EMPEROR
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>>34291690
Rifle is fine
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>>34285335
literally the only reason I use it, and that's only when the range officer is staring over my shoulder because "that's the way we do it in the army"

then when i'm shooting qual i just hit the bot release and call it a day. never had an issue.
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>>34286096
>pressing down on the bolt release when there is no mag in the rifle

WHAT DID HE MEAN BY THIS
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>>34284672
Sounds retarded.
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>>34293791
he locked the bold back. i guess he could always will the bolt to go forward with his mind though.
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>>34293668
>not properly blessing the machine spirits of you rifle
Are you being a heretic commissar?
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>>34284603
I find it useful as a thumb rest.

I trigger with my middle finger, index finger pointing down range as an instinctive aiming device, and thumb pressing lightly on the FA.
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>>34293842
but he also said he pulled the charging handle all the way back before had, thus eliminating the need to release the bolt via the bolt release, and he doesn't have a mag in so the bolt wont get caught on the follower.

I'm just saying that pushing the bolt release is an unnecessary step
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>>34292586
No, (You)
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>>34284603
If you fuck up a manual press check, it can be useful.
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>>34284726
no its just evidence of shit maintenance
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>>34284603
No other gun has one, and no other gun needs one. No other gun uses that weak ass charging system with the handle mounted on the fucking ass of the gun...

You do need it on an AR unless you want to lose the round that it failed to chamber when you have to rechamber a new one. Sorry ARfags.
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>>34290847
>haven't cleaned your rifle in a week
What ever happened to weapon, gear, body? If your rifle isn't clean, you shouldn't be eating or sleeping
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>>34284990
>I have no idea what I'm talking about
the post
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This gun wasn't designed with forcing bolt into battery in mind.

"but military" argument is lame, because militaries are often unnecessarily conservative in terms of small arms
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>>34299377
>not designed with a way to ensure that the bolt is fully in battery even under adverse conditions

seems like a pretty glaring oversight
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The forward assist on my AR serves literally no purpose because the bolt does not have the mating grooves cut in it to work.

It is, however, straight blowback 9mm, so I can't imagine why you would want to manually drive the bolt forward anyway.
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>>34284974
kys nigger the bolt has serrations, your thumb is the forward assist
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>>34290586
Psa 9mm 16 nitride keymod
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>>34284603
I don't like getting my dainty sissy hands greasy by touching the bolt to seat it properly.
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>>34299450
It does?
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