9mm thread

>>34284422
USP9 and USP9c are both better than all of those.

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At least no one brought up beretta... I was going to vomit yesterday.

The PPQ has a better trigger than the others, but no real high capacity magazine options and the stock sights suck. That said, the sights on the PPQ can be changed more easily than any handgun sights out there. You just need a couple screwdrivers and any average Joe can install night sights on a PPQ. My nitpick about the PPQ, and the reason I sold mine, is that the slide profile is kind of trapezoidal, which makes it feel like you're not getting a good grip on it when you go to rack the slide. The VP9 is the opposite of this, in this regard - you CAN'T NOT get a good grip on the VP9 slide. Other than that, Walther polymer pistols tend not to be popular with LE departments and it concerns me why not. If you do get a Walther, shop around online. Walther has a $!00 rebate going this summer, so you can get a PPQ for $400 otd, an amazing deal for a great gun.

CZ P10c is a big unknown for a lot of people. FNS9 is a big caution symbol for me because of the *squishysquishy* meme and they just look cheap.

Glocks are good guns. As a beginner, you'll appreciate magazine cost and availability, and these guns tend to be reliable. It's also very hard to make one rust. I've gone on backpacking trips through the rain with my Glock 20 where the gun didn't properly dry out for days, and the only rust I found was on the tiny trigger safety pin on the trigger. The triggers are the opposite of luxurious, but you won't find yourself fighting the trigger while shooting them, at least. It's like a staple gun. Anyone can use a Glock pretty well.

The P320 has a decent trigger, almost as good as the PPQ, but you will have to evaluate the rest of the gun yourself. I don't really like the balance in hand, which isn't a deal-killer - the P239 balances horribly, but happens to shoot like a dream. The problem is that the P320 seems to jump around while shooting a little too much. The frame has almost no weight. A positive is that Sig has finally released high capacity magazines for this model

Define better. What are you using it for, what are you looking for, etc.

If you want something that will have literally no problems other than muh grip angle then go with the Glock.

And why would you include the FNS and not the 509?

>>34284668
>What are you using it for, what are you looking for, etc.

All these guns literally occupy the exact same niche in the market.

>>34284678
>All these guns literally occupy the exact same niche in the market.

Still doesn't answer the question.

You could lay out five different 3in folding knives in front of me and ask you which one was the best, but if I knew you were looking for a knife for general wooded area utility, I would say none of them.

So, again, what are you using it for.

>>34284678
Your dick can occupy my asshole because im a massive homosexual

>>34284775
1) I'm not the OP.

2) Your question is irrelevant to the thread. OP is asking about either X, Y or Z, all of which occupy the exact same market and functional niche. He's not asking an open-ended question where you get to ask him questions and then answer W.

3) Suck my dick.

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>>34284422
The best one is the one you like and shoot the best.

>also post edc.
kay

>>34284787
dude whats ur problem? i've seen you on multiple other threads saying messed up and gay shit. is that the only reason you come on this sight? get a life loser

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>>34285300
people are strange creatures.

>>34285286
How do you carry your P30L? I've been thinking about CCing mine for kicks. I already CC a Browning Hi Power and I used to CC a normal P30 so I'm used to carrying bigger guns, but what do you do for yours?

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>>34285524
12 O'Clock AIWB

A good wedge and the right body type and it disappears.

>>34285535
>carries an extra mag
How shit at aiming are you, or do you genuinely believe you'll be fighting 20 niggers john wick style

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>>34284422
irrelevant question when the answer is always Kalash pistol

>>34285535
Can you sit and bend and all that? Do you have any issues with the grip texture eating up your shirt and skin? When I carried my P30 it are undershirts for dinner

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>>34285567
I'm tall, so the gear fits - now that I have a threaded bbl that extends out beyond the holster I gotta be careful or I can pinch a nut.
Sometimes I give my pants a quick hike before sittings - not super often though.
Bending over forwards is by far the most punishing and restrictive movements to the point where I tie my shoes in the morning before adorning the holster and I take the gun/holster off when I collect brass at the range.

>>34285566
I want the steel version of that

but sadly not even the normal one is ever gonna happen

The CZ P10C should be a wait and see gun. Looks promising and such but it just came out while the others you've listed have been out for years now.

The FNS 9 may be discontinued soon now that the FN 509 has been released. Magazines aren't interchangeable unless you buy base pads. I don't understand why FN continues to release new models and not have them be backwards compatible in terms of parts and magazines.

I really like the Sig P320 compact because of the good ergonomics and trigger. No humps, swells or grooves that may make it uncomfortable for some people. Grip frames are cheap and easily replaceable should there be too many scratches from abuse or if you've made a mistake on custom stippling. The aftermarket should expand rapidly for this gun now that the U.S. Army and DHS have contracts for the gun and it's become really popular among civilian shooters. The balance is a bit off compared to other pistols because of the high bore axis and all of the weight being in the slide basically but if you stick with the compact it shouldn't be too much of a problem. The full size and the sub compact both feel a bit top heavy.

The close 2nd to the P320, for me, would be the Walther PPQ. I have over 1400 rounds through mine but on occasion I will get unintentional double taps during an extended shooting session where I'm beginning to become fatigued. The trigger pull is very light and the reset is very short so a finger spasm can lead to the double tap. Because of this I just keep it as a range/home defense gun while I use glocks or the p320 for concealed carry usage.

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What do you fags think of the Springfield XD?

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>>34285566
>imports aren't going to happen
>Kalash USA is vaporware

>>34286742

Croatian shit with grip safety

>>34285535
>A good wedge
what would be a good one

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>>34287104
For me the important components are a good set of hooks and loops male & female with aggressive adhesive (see Velcro USA in NH) and a big slab of neopryne for me to whittle down. Some holsters have pre-built wedges, there's a lot of variation here.

>>34285858
> That Walther double tap
I had this happen on both my PPQ and PPS today, so it's not just the light weight trigger on the PPQ. I assume it's the short reset they use on their triggers.

>>34285591
What are you, fucking John Wick?

>>34284422

The CZ and PPQ are a matter of individual preference and taste.

The Glock 19 outdated and will drop in value, while the Sig 320 is going to be really hard for civilians to find in the near future.

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>>34284464

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>>34288524
Not with that shitty SOG

>>34288366
First time I rented a PPQ I unintentionally double tapped 3 times the first mag and like once each time after. Crazy short reset.

>>34288911
Do you even know what a USP looks like?

>>34286742
Not bad. Lots of larping haters

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>>34288946
Your moms sandy vag?

>>34285858
>>34284611
I really like my p320 and those are pretty good descriptions but I find that the weight balances out really well when you fill up the magazine any amount. It's top heavy unloaded but that's because there's meant to be bullets in there. I have the full size model so it might be different

>>34284611
Well said. Have your (you).

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Loving my 9mm

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>>34284464
>USP
>in 9
Also no.

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Stealth EDC bread?
K
Sure
If I have to
I guess

>>34289287
>EDC'ing a full size Block with an optic and flashlight
>large fixed blade
>spare mag
>fidget spinner

You must look ridiculous.

>>34289287
I didn't think there could be more irony in a single photo, ever, but, congrats Have a (You)

>alg 6 second mount
>alien gear holster
>with zombie green internals
>koga
>Mercedes
>meme tier knife
>magpul iPhone case
>shitstain stipple job
>faggot spinner
>threaded barrel, no can

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>>34289346
It's not zombie green it's kekistan green.
It's not alien gear.
What the fuck is a koga?

>>34289275
Poorfag or noguns spotted.

>>34289346
Clearly jealous.

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>>34289326
You say those things like they're bad.
Go kiss a girl you queer.

>>34284422
>doesn't include master race HK
USP9
VP9
Glock 9
who care what follows

>>34289518
>suppressor
>on a revolver
I'm not even mad. That's just... lol
>>34289535
Glock 19 is next best Glock to 34
26/43 for GOAT back up

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>>34289577
My 19 is a back up to my 20. You have to follow the numbers in order. You can't just jump from 19 to 26. That's not how it works.

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>>34289603
dat meme doe

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R8 my rig

my P320 compact makes me want to cry over how good it feels. I can finally say I have my own pistol and all other pistols are only interesting for their novelty. I totally understand why some people don't like it but it feels like it was custom made for me.

>>34289621
>Memeing about memes with a meme
You don't have to go back, but you can't stay here

>>34289654
Old black codger/three fiddy

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>>34289670
oh senpai, can't I stay just a little bit longer?

>>34289688
You can never leave, 88er bro. You know the rules.

>>34289654
Get rid of a knife or two and add the OT.

>>34289522
I have a USP in .45, the only caliber it should be in.

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>>34289287
I hope to god you didn't pay for any of the Kydex stuff.
And if I'm right and you did it yourself, you really need to work on your technique.

>that wide as fuck holster with a single cheap clip
>that sheath with 0 retention
The mag holder isn't bad though.

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>>34285566
>double action only
>10lb trigger

>>34284422
Whichever you'd like, because it seems everyone is making a capable pistol yoday. We live in a golden age for quality lightweight pistols across whatever size and price range you want.

Imagine coming from the age of nothing but Glocks, all steel frames, and revolvers and then seeing the options you'd have today.

>>34290921
We don't need to imagine. Just ask what people leaving California feel like without the good goy roster.

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>>34290306
I paid $238 for the ALG/TLR Glock 20 holster since no one else makes them.

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>>34289518

Man you just slay niggas left and right with that pic don't you?

Wonder how many anons you've got with it total.

>>34290552
>being a forearmlet who can't handle a 10# DAO trigger
I bet you don't even eat spinach. You're never gonna make it.

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>>34291095
Not as much as brad. Can't beat brad!

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No mentions of the CZ P01? Not polymer framed but still a great little shooter. Conceals about as well as my USPc45.

>>34290961
I laughed, but it hurt a little

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>>34291095
>tfw you don't have as many hunnits

feelsbadman

>>34288542
hnggggggghhghghgh

>>34289654

>ACLU pocket constitution

kek

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>>34289518
Is that really attached? Show threaded revolver pls? I have a S&W 642 coming in the mail now

>>34290961
Why would you depress people on a Sunday, anon. Is Monday looming not enough?

>>34291297
Does the ACLU version of the Constitution skip the 2nd Amendment?

>>34284422

Did we ever get a release date for the hudsucker pistol?

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>>34291298
I just glued it in place. I used a dowel to make sure it was lined up.

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>>34285300
lurk more new fag. anyone can type Hunter 3-1 Actual into the name bar. It's several people trying to grab your (you)s

>>34285535
the real problem with carry my usp is lack of wedge/super tuck, a single clip, and a poor belt (first spear line one, it sucks)

I might try the Velcro thing before I buy a jm custom kydex for my usp

>>34291095
I should take a picture of my KelTec with my $14,000 credit card next to it.

>>34290292
No, you don't, noguns.

>>34289522
>>34292349
Why do you keep telling people that don't have any firearms? Are you seriously that desparate for attention that you've resulted to fishing for replies on 4chan?

Go join a fucking sewing club or something.

>>34284422
Sig 226. Polymer a shit

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>>34291588

>>34289659
same. i went through glock, m&p, uspc etc before i found the p320 compact and i absolutely love it

>>34292364
Why do you keep trying to pass off uninformed opinions as if they were at all informed by any experience whatsoever?

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>>34284422
I prefer Glocks because they're ubiquitous and easy to work on, but I don't begrudge other people their preferences.
Anyone who thinks that any particular plastic service auto is dramatically better than the rest is kidding themselves.

>>34291571
about a month after the MDR

>>34291313
it does not

>>34289535
I said you must look ridiculous.

I'm surprised you don't vape too.

>>34292569
>I was only pretending to be retarded; The Post

>>34284422
FNS 9, the only option that's fully ambi.

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>>34295218
Of course I vape.

>>34284422

Glock 19
most compact, largest magazine availability, largest variety of accessories, magazine interchangeability with other models (this is a huge advantage, say you want something smaller or for whatever reason bigger, you already have mags for it. Also, 33 round magazines if you want some retarded fun). Magazines are also cheap, this is a big deal. I'm not really sure it's more reliable than the other guns, but it has that reputation. I think all of these guns are quite reliable, more than any soldier and certainly any civilian carrying one would need.

Its main advantage is also its only real disadvantage: it is overwhelmingly popular. This means you will not be a special snowflake. You're one of millions of glock owners. You get no cool guy points for this.

PPQ
Great trigger. Best of the bunch for sure.

CZp10C
No experience with this gun. I don't see anything it does to set itself apart form the competition. It doesn't have a gimmick or niche.

Sig p320
Modular. I don't care, maybe you do?

FNS 9
It looks cool? FN is a highly regarded brand? It's in the same boat as the CZ for me, but has been out longer and there is still no distinguishing factor. Get this if you have to be different from everyone else.

I don't think you can go wrong at all with any of these guns. They all are good. I would say the PPQ is the best gun, but the Glock has advantages that make it the superior option. I would definitely choose between those two.

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>>34291078
Please tell me you're fucking with me.

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>>34295872
Well no one makes these. It's not like there are G20 6SM drones/blue guns, never mind with a light. I had to have it custom made.

>>34296593

It looks like shit cobbled together by drunken monkeys. Drunken monkeys so incompetent due to incest-related mental deficiencies that they were fired from Century. Drunken down-syndrome inbred monkeys too incompetent to work for Century that later suffered severe brain damage.

>>34285858
>I don't understand why FN continues to release new models and not have them be backwards compatible in terms of parts and magazines

$$$

>>34288911
Those are not USP's.
USP's don't have ugly front serrations

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>>34296711
Can you tell me specifically what's wrong without memes so I can email the company? Seems OK to me.

>>34296886

>what's wrong without memes
no

>>34288911
Those are HK45s, and they're actually really good.
https://pistol-training.com/archives/4027
Certainly better than a 1911 that costs twice as much.

>>34296916
Why am I not surprised you were just memeing me? At least you admit it. Thanks for that.

>>34297301

I'm not even the guy who was originally criticizing it. I'm sure it works, but the work is sloppy and poorly finished. I've paid way less and gotten much better.

>>34296881
Front serrations are actually bretty useful.

>>34285557

He's got the proper gun for it.

>>34285300

There's a boot seal that posts under that name, cringe worthy shit

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>>34296711
>>34296886
Original dude here. I can understand it might be hard to find a blank or mock up something, but a custom order should never cost that much. I wouldn't even charge that much.

Second, those cuts are uneven and jagged, neither side of the holster looks even with the other, there's not relief made for any of the hardware so it's either a bitch to get in/out, or it's too loose. Also a single clip that wide for a holster that wide is a bad idea. I've had prototypes that came out better than that on the first try.


I can't tell if that's meant for CC'ing or a floppy OWB idea, but both look uncomfortable.


I wouldn't even recommend contacting the company, just look around for someone else.

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Opinions on whether or not the PPQ trigger is too light for IWB -CCW?

>>34299236
I wouldn't want to carry it, but I've only started carrying recently and like a heavier trigger

>>34299236
don't pull the trigger and it won't fire

>>34299236

Trigger pull being light isn't the issue because the trigger pull distance is actually relatively long on the first pull. The short reset may be an issue if you are under stress and may have that unintentional double tap that has been mentioned before.

Lots of training should be done before CCWing the PPQ. The short reset could be seen as a benefit once you're comfortable with it as you could probably start practicing drawing + triple tapping into a target.

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>>34296886
O look, it's the "money can buy skills" EDC package.

>>34284611
FNS wasn't the squishy gun, that's the FNX Tactical.

>>34289659
Love mine too.

>>34284422
Looking into getting a Hi-Power. Held one in the store a couple weeks ago. I like it a lot but what are some anon's experience with them?

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>>34301270
I have a kareen, and I love it. I took the magazine safety out, since it's not required, removing it improves the trigger, and i just hate needless safeties.

One of the most accurate shooting pistols I have, which is saying a lot since it's Israeli police surplus that was beaten to shit.

>>34301319
How much did you pay for your surplus one?

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>>34301922
~300 freedom tickets. But it was in pretty rough external shape. I had it cerakoted to cover up the mange.

>>34284611
i got my hands on a p10c and i love it.

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>>34302060
I can concur. Got to shoot a brand new one at the range last friday.

Fully intend to buy one once the sales rush for them is over.

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>>34285557
You must be retarted.... I bet you're the type of guy that only has one of each kitchen utensils because "I only need one to eat".....

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>>34284422
Just bought my first 9mm [pic related], i know hk does not recommend +p+ is there a reason behind this? also, what is the best ammo to feed this cool as fuck puppy?

>>34303720
No one recommends +p+ because that designation literally means that the ammunition is out of spec.

+p has a specification with an upper bound on pressure. +p+ just means more pressure than +p. Could be 10psi over, could be 10000psi over.

>>34285535
what kind of holster is that?

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>>34303746
thanks for clarifying, i did a bit of research and basically p2ks love anything not steel or +p+ so does this mean any saami or nato will work fine? are fmj ok as well?

>>34303855
>so does this mean any saami or nato will work fine? are fmj ok as well?
Yes, and yes.

>>34303867
Thanks :3

>>34295655
All of these vs M&P 9c

>>34289603

how you like that crkt dragon, senpai

>>34295655

>recognizes utility of sharing mags with smaller glocks

>can't recognize why modularity in the p320 is an advantage

Get a P320 carry, and a compact grip module. You can now go from 15 flush fitting and 17 with the grip extension to 17 flush fitting with 21 in the extension

>>34304788
He doesn't like it as much as his flute.

I have a PPQ. I like it, though I find it a bit more snappy than some other 9mm. But it's easy to overcome with proper grip. I dunno, maybe I'm just a pussy.

>>34304933
>modularity in the p320 is an advantage
It's not.
The size/caliber kits cost almost as much as a new gun, but without the benefit of having a second gun.
I could see it being a slight benefit for Europeans who're restricted by law to only owning a certain number of firearms, or for triggerfags who don't want to pay $$$ for a match trigger for every size/caliber of P320 they own, but those are some serious edge cases.
For most people, I think the P320's serialized chassis is a bad thing because it encourages people to practice shooting a full-size gun that they have no intention of carrying and then carry a tiny gun that they never practice with, without the psychological barrier to entry of having to buy multiple guns in order to do so.

>>34305978

Like i said, you can go from compact to carry (full size magazine well, compact rail) with only a swap of the grip module (fifty bucks)

>>34305901
As a polymer pistol, it's going to be a little more snappy than something like a Hi Power, but the PPQ is not that bad. Your grip just sucks.

>>34296886
what can is that?

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>>34301319
my man

>>34305901
All you freakin' losers complain about 'snappiness', LEARN HOW TO SHOOT/LEARN HOW TO HOLD YOUR FIREARM. Also, it would not hurt if you actually worked out your arms by doing couple of push-ups a week.

>>34306473
very nice although i hate that hammer and that hammer guard. looks like it'll take a chunk outofya. are there 911s out there with smaller hammers?

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Honestly I like the G17 the best but all of them work very well for me. Beretta is fun, PPQ and VP9 have great triggers. The P320 is probably my least favorite cause it's had a few failure to eject malfunctions.

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>>34288961

>>34285524
How much did you pay for your Hi-Power?
I've been looking at them recently but I'm not in the mood to spend $700 on one.

>>34304788
It's a serious bargain. P good knife for cheap money.
>>34305857
It's a sounding rod.

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Turning 21 in 6 days
Going to get my first handgun.
What are some good sources for wood 92fs grips?

>>34308810
u can get a feg hi power for like $250 thats just as good

>>34308780
He did?

>>34308537

If it's been consistent even after a supposed break in period I would contact Sig about it. I've heard a few people having FTE's either due to incorrect extractor spring or the extractor itself is out of spec.

>>34308973
http://www.mactecsales.com/BA0158_p/ba0158.htm

I haven't shot all but I've felt most and I'd go with the CZ or sig probably. More than likely the sig for it's known quantity.