Posting here since this involves violence/melee combat. Could

Yeah probably

>>34281894
make a sandwich? sure

open a small successful business? no way

yes. Talking about totally average man vs totally average woman going actually 100% I'd guess 1v3 might be enough. But women tend to be less aggressive, less likely to go at it 100%, so you might need 1v5.

OP here.

But where does the leathal trauma come from? Punches are not enough by far and I have doubts about kicks in the head, too. Army boots on male feet are one thing, while shoes on female feet ... I dunno.

>>34281894
Most likely not within a reasonable timeframe under realistic conditions, no.

Given an unlimited amount of time without interruption, giving the man no possible means of escape other than killing or disabling all the women, and telling them to/forcing them to wear heavy, stiff-soled boots yes. But that kind of defeats the point of "average".

I think 3 would suffice. Assuming the women are not hesitating and both parties intend to kill each other as quickly as possible.
You would probably need at least 5 women if he was a big guy

>>34281894
the average woman can not take the average man's straight punch to the head without getting rekt, fuck, it's a one shot strike agaisnt most man. I love that scene in that movie with jennifer lopez where she plays a battered housewife. the guy literally straight out says this.

>>34281894
>No weapons allowed.

>pick up smallest woman
>beat other wymin to death with wymin weapon

is this allowed?

>>34282004
They would probably claw his eyes out first

>army boots
Literally what

>>34281894
Crowd mentality means they would all hang back waiting for someone else to make a move. Meanwhile they'll be wrecked one by one.

1000 acre jungle island. Pick off one by one. Or let them starve to death. Keep them awake at night. Let them bitch each other to death. A few will figure out how to make fire. Kill those first and take away their flint. Traps to cause damage leading to infection. Death moans keep them awake. Basically same tactics as against 3rd graders. Introduce a bit of hardship and they'll turn into a broken mess.

>>34282049
Equal opportunity. Of cause, women can be anything!

>>34281894
Nancy Wake killed a SS patrolmen with a judo chop

>>34282077
In a jungle island, against 100 chicks. Which real or fictional man comes out on top? Bear Grils? How about against 1000? Arnold from Predator?

>>34282138
Is Nancy Wake average?

>>34282004
enough kicks/stomps to the head will do it. It would take a bit of time though

>>34282056
Women aren't that aggressive. They like to slap you for some reason.

>>34281894
Was at Rodeo last weekend and saw maidens in gig two by two. Pretty cool promo. Anyone else see them around in LA area?

Get 1 average man to steal a child from 5 average women in plain sight within 2 mins.

Stage is set. We Thunderdome now.

>>34282117
>A few will figure out how to make fire

you haven't watched those bear grylls women vs. men on an island survival shows have you? women are a mess. they killed an animal and had surplus meat. which they then put inside of the one jerry can they had for storage and boiling of water. needless to say the meat went bad within hours on the oceanian tropical island and this rekt their one drinking water container. now sure, you could have tried to get the meat out and then had the empty can sit in a fire to burn it clean but they didn't think of this either....

>>34282117
>Or let them starve to death.

This to be honest.

They would all find the beach and just tan all day because they wouldn't be able to come to a group consensus on whether to build shelter or find food. So they would just sit on the beach starving to death and sun burnt.

>>34281894
If you've got 20 women committed to killing this man, the answer is yes, unless the man is dedicated to killing those 20 women.

>>34281894
Yes. It's very hard to beat 20 assailants bent on killing you, provided there is little window of opportunity to escape.

why does the black girl look so out of place?

the average man? easily. an athlete would wreck them in a colosseum arena though. slow ass bitches would get picked off 1 by 1 with straight punches. they might kick you in the balls though.

>>34282117
>Basically same tactics as against 3rd graders.

You have a lot of experience fighting 3rd graders on jungle islands?

>>34282206
>Or let them starve to death.
>This to be honest.

no. you'd see starvation symptoms sooner than them. you'd have to kill them as soon as possible while you are in peak condition hydration and calorie wise. time is your enemy.

>>34282179
Chinese/Japanese/Korean/Russian chicks are hardier and more clever. But also more conniving. Prob can turn one or two to join you. Live happily ever after.

>>34281894
I don't care if they are starving midgits, your not winning a 20/1 hand to hand fight even if your Bruce Lee. They just need to rush you all at once and once your down kick you to death.

>>34282238
>no. you'd see starvation symptoms sooner than them.

So if there is no way to scavenge or trap for food then what's the point of fighting? We will all die any way.

>>34282244
how does that relate to what I said? OP question implies US or at least "western" women and russian women these days are just as useless as your average french whorebag - I know, I've dealt with both.

>>34282231
Shit. I gundam wrote the book Lord of the Fleas. Didn't u read that in your remedial ESL?

>>34282250
>So if there is no way to scavenge or trap for food then what's the point of fighting? We will all die any way.

the idea is you have been abducted by a japanese game show and if you win, you'll be saved.... or something like that....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBdY4ibPFHQ

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>>34282037

>>34282250
We'll... don't want to say it out loud but...

>>34282265
>the idea is you have been abducted by a japanese game show and if you win, you'll be saved.... or something like that....

Ok so something not at all in the premise?

>>34282267

So I could eat the meat of the women I kill and get sick because they could have any kind of disease?

Yeah, nah. Given a random sample there's a decent chance one of them has something nasty as fuck.

Twenty? Sure.

The average man is two standard deviations stronger than the average woman, which almost guarantees a win one on one.

But 5 or 6 can gang up on him simultaneously, and as soon as one goes down one of the backups can step in. No way the individual wins that.

There's little chance he wins unless he can bottleneck them somehow and only fight one at a time.

Of course, this (like most gender conflict memes) only looks at the tip of the iceberg, physical strength.

The rest is social coordination. Getting twenty men to organize is relatively easy; getting twenty women to agree and simultaneously execute a high-risk high-loss strategy is going to be rather difficult.

>>34282284
You're actually thinking that an avg female has the instinct to throw herself into death battle? Most I know would just sputter and cower.

>>34282284
>getting twenty women to agree and simultaneously execute a high-risk high-loss strategy is going to be rather difficult.

This. I can't even get my fiancee, her sister, and her mother to agree on when to leave to go out for fuckin dinner.

Assuming they don't become faltered after seeing the first few girls get floored and go all out all 20 the entire time.
I think they could.
But I feel like one girl would go up, get OPMed, then they would be hella weary and hesitant, and the male would have smooth sailing in taking them all out

>>34282301
Or they'll just freeze up.

>>34282303
Chinese have a saying. Put three women in a room and you won't be able to hear a dish break on stone. Yappy...

>>34281894

A man in his prime with training?

No.

Women just hit you with palm repeatedly. They can't put themselves into battle mode like men.

>>34282317

Ironically her mother thinks I talk too much.

Because instead of talking about gossip or celebrity shit while they watch E! her husband and I talk about politics.

>>34281894
20 people can't physically fit around one person, maybe 8 can at once, so basically he'd have to fight off 8 of them twice, then 4 after that.

Even if you're just knocking the cunts out with big haymakers that would be tiring. Just grab one around the neck and threaten to choke her out or snap her neck if they others don't fuck off.

And what the actual fuck is that movie even about? I see a bunch of people chimping out over it but I don't want to google it and raise it's profile at all.

>>34282350
>And what the actual fuck is that movie even about?
IIRC there's a virus or something that causes sterility a la Children of Men which leads to a collapse of most governments. A fascist government rises in the place of the United States a few years later and scours the land looking for women who can bear children. So they kidnap them and force them to pump kids out.

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In a large, open space, man wins every time.
>keep moving to avoid getting surrounded
>even if they do, pick a thin spot and run them over
>throw jabs to drop them one at a time
>they'll probably quit as soon as a couple of them get dropped anyway
Provided the "average" male has enough stamina to keep moving and punching, he'd win.
Also,
>women
>having killer instinct
Lol

>>34282365
>throw jabs to drop them one at a time

I mean, my girlfriend couldn't take a jab from me. It would drop her immediately and then she wouldn't be able to leave the house for a few days.

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It would be like this.

>>34281894
Yes if they are all dedicated to the task.

"Average" is very poorly defined.

But it could be easily done if they use their weight to hold the man down, and then stomp on his neck.
>>34282004
Trying to kill someone by punching them to death is slow and inefficient. Especially if you aren't already massively larger/have a major advantage.

But then I'd argue that 20 women is a major advantage so its doable.

>>34282380
Love that board breaking kick near the end.
Manofthepeopleman/10.

>>34282365
>women
>having killer instinct

you bet. I'd be more scared of a woman torturer than a dude. but that's when you have been strapped down by a bunch of burly men already. in a fight against 20 women, violence and brutality of action would render them catatonic as soon as they see you punch through the skull of the first one. I'm jaded as fuck in that regard. I actually think my mother murdered my dad.

>>34282396
>I actually think my mother murdered my dad.
Green text
Ive seen women do the most depraved things for money.

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Guys, angry mobs are terrifying, even for people with guns.

They could be 20 women, 20 skinny somalians, or what have you but if they surround you and pin you down the "average" man wouldn't stand a chance.

That being said it also depends on what you define as the "average" woman. Whats the contextual situation here? Are they trying to beat him to death for being an infidel? Or are they just some random women from new york thrown into the situation. Or are they 20 average women with previous military experience?

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>>34282244
I've seen more than a few asian woman in real life. They are quite small, and have noodle arms. I do not believe they are hardier than caucasian women, although they are cuter sometimes.

>>34281894
Oh twenty women vs one man?

Give me a few viagras and I can handle them just fine.

Probably get twenty of them pregnant at most.

>>34282417
Mentally hardier. Very focused on survival esp older one that grew up hungry.

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>>34282413

>>34282386
>But it could be easily done if they use their weight to hold the man down
Maybe if his feet were frozen in place or there was very limited room.

>>34282374
Left or right jab? Do you have power in your non dominant arm?

>>34282413
>even for people with guns

>have AK
>30rd mag
>women come
>most 76239s fired zipp through 2 or 3 of them
>20 shitskin wombmen lay dead
>you still have 10 rds in the mag
>everything went better than expected!

>>34282427
Something off about this post. Why wud virgin need viagra? 50 years old maybe? What means at most 20...

>>34282439
>lets have them all come from one direction, that way I can gun them down with ease
If mobs were that easy to deal with, Mogadishu would never have been a problem.

>>34282436
Or you know, surround and tackle him

>>34282452
That's another way, although it would have to be very well executed.

>>34282452
>average women
>thinking tactically or working together at all

lol

>>34282449
A mob has the intelligence of a 10 year old, apparently. Therefore you could easily trick a mob.

>>34282459
I'd argue they'd have to be idiots not to do it. It doesn't take an average intelligence to gang up on someone. Lest the many gangs out there.

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>>34282449
>If mobs were that easy to deal with, Mogadishu would never have been a problem.

In that picture it's axactly what they are doing. getting women to organize and think soundly in all 3 dimensions is like playing the lottery. if you disagree, you haven't been around women a lot.

>>34282433
Have Jap wife 8yrs. Worked with Chinks for 15 yrs. Agree.
>>34282417
Cuter? Nearly always.

>>34282463
Yes, I'm sure the well educated, college graduate Marine being dragged through the streets totally outwitted those mob of Somali's who never went to kindergarden.
>>34282462
Mob mentality is animal instinct.

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Medieval germans believed that a woman could fight a man one on one in trials by combat. To equal up the strength differences though, the club armed man was placed in a metre deep hole and the woman given a brick in a stocking.

>>34282411
>Ive seen women do the most depraved things for money.

I don't even think it was money.

>>34282439
You forgot to rape the cute one.
Before death, if /k/.
After death, if /b/.

>>34282464
Have you seen a person getting attacked by multiple others? Rather than surrounding and tackling like you said, what often happens is they attack from a 180 degree angle at most and try to overwhelm with punches.

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>>34282470
>>34282468
>It takes intelligence to figure out how to surround and mob a person when you definitively outnumber them

>>34282486
>It takes intelligence to figure out how to surround and mob a person when you definitively outnumber them

yes, it does:
>>34282484

the only advantage I see these shitskin women having over western women is that they probably have slaughtered a bunch of animals and aren't afraid of blood.

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>>34282495
Those shitskins have probably actually stoned men to death. Multiple times.

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>>34282495
Oh yes and I'm sure the Somali's were using very intelligent means and tactical knowledge to surround and overwhelm these soldiers.

If only they had been smarter, surely it would have prevented their capture!

>>34282512
>>34282504
and how many somalis died? dude, get real.

>>34282521
Lots died

Including the soldier.

The point is it doesn't matter how dumb women are or weak. You can kill a man with NIGGER intelligence and HIV ridden malnourished bodies if you outnumber him 20 to 1.

Even western women have that advantage of going to school and actually eating properly.

>>34282512
>Oh yes and I'm sure the Somali's were using very intelligent means and tactical knowledge to surround and overwhelm these soldiers.
You really think they killed them by "surrounding" and tackling them?

>>34282528
But what are the conditions? Everyone locked in a prison bathroom? An open field where the man can run until they string out, letting him fight one at a time?

A jungle island wth sticks and stones?

>>34282537
Yes. When you bumrush someone with a mob of people, and pin them down, that is literally "surrounding and tackling" plus lots of kicking and punches for good measure. Which is what happened to those pilots in the downed aircraft.

>>34282449
Mogadishu, the part of it that was a problem, was 4 men against thousands, and they still aquitted themselved in a way that resembled a power fantasy more than real life.

>>34282549
What if the thousands of Somali men were replaced by 20 women?

>>34282528
>20 to 1
I recommend you open a book and read up on Mogadishu.

>>34282542

Why does it matter so much?

If you are out numbered, odds are your going to have a bad day. Stop being autistic.

>>34282542
Thats the point. Its entirely contextual.

"average" woman has no meaning if you don't give it context, same for the man as well.

Again what's gong on here? Do you have 20 sandnigger women trying to kill an infidel soldier hiding in a village without his weapons? 20 average bodied female prisoners trying to kill an unarmed prison guard. It really needs context to make any sense.

>hit one women
>starts crying
>5 run to comfort her
>8 run away crying and frightened
>3 runs at you and you punch them too as they weakly thump at you

>>34282563
Then you would have 20 women running into a downed helicopter attack a man without any weapons. They would pin him down with their bodies, and then wait until someone finds a big enough rock to finish the job or figures out a way to snap his neck with their foot.

The end result remains the same.

The average man can't lift 20 15 year olds at the same time. Let alone 20 women piling up on you and holding you down.

>>34282549
>After the battle, the bodies of several of the conflict's U.S. casualties were dragged through Mogadishu's streets by crowds of local civilians and SNA forces.
Stop lying.

>>34282595
20 women can't all attack one man at the same time. You underestimating the weight difference between men and women.

>>34282609
>20 women can't all attack one man at the same time
Sure they can

All you have to do is have them attack. At the same time.

Or just have them jump on him, that works about the same. The point is you have 20 human bodies bearing down on you. I'd like to see actual strongmen try to lift 20 adults of any gender at the same time.

>>34282621
That is physically impossible. Mind describing to me in detail how the women can get into a position where all 20 of them are dealing strikes to the man? People don't let themselves get surrounded thst easily.

>>34282631
Okay.

So you have 20 women. They attack from at least three different angles, four ideally, but three works. They'd have to naturally spread out anyway to attack all at once, even shoulder to shoulder, and attacking in a column from one direction is stupid.

They run up to the man. He tries to punch one of them, or two. 18 others then run up and press the weight of the crowd on him and he goes down.

They don't even have to be punching. They just have to grab at him with their arms and bring him to the floor. A person only has two arms.

As any person playing even amateur football what happens when 20 people run up and bear their bodies down on you.

just whirlwhind barbarian your way to victory

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>>34282647
It would look something like this.

>>34282647
>Okay.
>So you have 20 women. They attack from at least three different angles, four ideally, but three works. They'd have to naturally spread out anyway to attack all at once
Stopped reading here. You imply that the man will let the women comfortably surround him and attack in a very coordinated manner.
He won't. What will happen is he'll start knocking them out before they get a chance to evenly spread out.

>>34282631

There's plenty of people in Africa that have been necklaces that would disagree

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>>34282680
It he runs up to them all the better. How exactly is he going to stop 20 people from ganging up on him by charging them?

Again, he can only be knocking them out one at a time. By the time he takes even four of them down, the rest will be able to gang up on him.

Or are you going to arbitrarily put the 20 women yards apart from each other. Even if they are 3 yards apart each, he wouldn't be able to stop them all from rushing and mobbing him.

1v2 would already be too much if they're aggressive. A pitbull weighs like 20kg, and fighting two of them would be hell.

>>34281894
idk, probably?
Depends on the women, depends on the man.

>>34281894
The question is based on a false premise, because the guy in that scene doesn't fight back. At all.

>>34282004
You can punch someone to death homes. It doesn't take much kicking to the back of the head to kill someone either.

>>34282694
You sound like you're a woman who has never been in a fight and never felt the true extent of a man's strength.

>>34282667
>those silky thighs
>crushing my body
>can't breathe cock is diamonds
>the air is filled with their light musk as they press down harder on me

This is my fetish

>>34282710
Okay Captain America

>>34282144
Bear Grylls is a fucking pussy mother fucker who faked all that dumb shit on his show. We are talking 'Now I'll sleep in my little shelter good night audience *turns off camera, then hops a helicopter back to the holiday inn*' level fake. He was barely even in the army either, when he says "I was in the SAS" he means he was some kind of reservist who literally never trained or deployed.

>>34282694
If he was up against 20 men with the strength of women he'd lose. But women lack the aggressiveness of men. Fights do not go the way you apparently think.

>>34282746
>But women lack the aggressiveness of men
Depends on the women. Also depends on the man.

The average western middle class man rarely even gets into fistfights most of their lives. You either fight or flee. Most would flee than fight when facing 20 people regardless of who they are.

If you're going to make the man a fighter, then why not do the same for the women?

>>34281894
One average woman could kill one average man.
Killing people isn't super hard.
One wrong punch, your head hits the concrete wrong; you're gone.

>>34282764
>If you're going to make the man a fighter, then why not do the same for the women?
The average man has a much higher capacity for violence, regardless of how many fistfights he's been in.

>>34282764
And again, context.

If this was some serial killer trying to take down 20 unarmed and surprised women with his bear hands? Sure, easily. They'd be too busy running away to fight

But at this point you're tweaking variables of those of the question beyond "average" man against 20 "average" women. Which renders the original question null.

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>>34282781
capacity for violence =/= how they'd definitively react in a violent situation.

You could have a big burly man run like a coward because he just happens to be afraid, even if he had the capacity to wipe the floor with them. That's the sort of thing that's entirely internal and variable per person. It's why the military puts so much training on molding the average person into something more reliable and able to fight and kill.

>>34282792
Again, physical differences. But that means squat if you have someone who isn't going to use those to his advantage.

And, as mentioned, even those physical differences mean squat if you have 20 women dedicated to killing you ganging up to kill you. Which they would. Not easily perhaps, but inevitably.

In a fight between people who are determined to kill each other, I'd put more money on the man outnumbered 10 to 1 by males than 20 to 1 by females. Because the odds aren't so extreme. But in either case they're terrible.

>>34282794
>You could have a big burly man run like a coward because he just happens to be afraid
Yet you don't think the women would run away after a few get knocked out?

>>34282746
Only one girl encountered.
> at a unit sail club outing, first time
> don't know shit just puttering around on a boat
> resting at dock house
> commotion. someone capsized their boat on lake
> girl a foot shorter and 100# lighter takes charge
> "u, u, and u get on this boat"
> pointing at me too
> but my first day. she don't shiv.
> "get tha f on the boat"
> me: smile inside, feels good
> rescue floaters, feel good
Wonder what happened to that chick.

>>34282803
>the women would win because what if the man is a pussy and the women are trained killers
Come on, have you seen women in a fight?

>>34282004
choking is also a thing...

>>34282804
Depends on the women.

If they fight, they win.

If they run, they lose. By default really.

>>34282818
Not him, but yes.
I've seen dozens.

I'd take any average 180lbs sheboon over a 140lbs or chubby numale white dude any day.

>>34282828
We're talking about the AVERAGE.

>>34282818
Well the problem is the main argument is the reverse, the man would win because what if the man is a fighter and the women are pussies.

That isn't even part of the original question or adequately defines "average" person in either case.

Internal courage is a variable that could decide the fight but isn't even being addressed by the question, so people are free to throw in their own scenarios and interpretations.

The 20 women / man are killers, or cowards, or what have you. Its not even being defined and thats the problem.

>>34282846
>Well the problem is the main argument is the reverse, the man would win because what if the man is a fighter and the women are pussies.
You have a hard time understanding that men and women think differently.

>>34282839
AVERAGE has no meaning unless you mean physical. And even then that still varies.

There are loads of different cultural averages around the world.

The average western woman in the united states is not the same as the average african woman. Neither in what level of violence are exposed to, their physical health and fitness, nor occupation.

>>34282851
Its because they all think differently, even from each other, that there can be no literal average.

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>>34282878
>there can be no literal average.

>>34282839
Yeah.
And if we're talking young adult, aged 16-22, I'd take a random black girl over a pasty white guy that spent all of his formative years playing Steam games.
That's the thing that always gets me about these threads, that I find fucking ridiculous.

If we're talking about the ideal average male; played football in highschool, has done a little lifting, has enough testosterone, etc...
Then sure, he'd beat 90% of females pretty easily in a fight.

The issue is that a pampered western male has spent his entire life on videogames, never lifted a weight, never played a sport, etc... (weeaboos, band kids, guys that stopped lifting after college, or god forbid, high-school).
He is effectively no different from a woman.
It doesn't matter how much test you produce if you never go outside or do anything even slightly strenuous to build muscle.
Look at the average Antifa/Liberal-activist male; some of them have thinner forearms than the women they're standing beside.
And in many parts of the country that's average.

The average pasty NEET or sedentary high-school aged male on 4chan would have his ass kicked by many random females.

So while sure, what SHOULD be the average male in an ideal society where everyone was active would be able to beat the vast majority of women; that's not the world we live in.

>>34282890
Damn. MEANINGFUL average. Of course there can be a literal average. You can expect most women to at least not be 10 feet tall or 1 foot tall.

But can there be a meaningful, definitive average for the question at hand? then no.

Not in the least. Because of the sheer variety in human cultures, and even in subdivisions within them. You have people used to defending themselves in the city against people who've lived in peaceful rural areas most of their lives and people who live in a constant warzone and many many other things that change the question utterly.

So no, there can't be a meaningful contextual version of "average" that appropriately addressed the question.

>>34282319
>average man

>>34282898
Pasty whote guy here
I'm still stronger than most of the women I come across. The difference in muscle mass also seems to be a difference in baseline muscle mass, not just gained.

>>34283254
I garuntee you almost any random active highschool or college aged girl (soccer, basketball, etc...) could beat the shit out of a sedintary NEET antifa/pro-videogame player male

>>34283514
Active isn't the norm for females either. Hell, I'll even dispute that an active female that isn't dedicated to fitness is stronger than me. In my experience, this is not the case. I am a moderately sedentary videogame-playing male.

>>34283514
Doubt it, they just have god cardio, not loads of muscles. Women are weak unless they are east german atheletes or boxers, whereupon it is dubious if they were always a woman

I feel compelled to give you some insight into women vs men.

20 random women with 0 training and no combat experience (which seems likely from the image) stand no fucking chance at all to take down 1 man with training and in good shape.

0 chance. Do any of you have any idea how weak and slow women are? Not to mention women will immediately shit themselves if they see what happens to the first two women the man destroys.

Just in case you dont understand what Im saying. A man who knows how to punch will literally knock out a woman in one punch. One hard kick can literally break her legs.

Lastly as mentioned by others already. A man can pick up a petite woman like a ragdoll and use her as a weapon.

Women lose.

With weapons, things change quickly. With weapons one good hit in the back/knee/stomach/head and the man will be easy prey.

>>34283949
>20 random women with 0 training and no combat experience (which seems likely from the image) stand no fucking chance at all to take down 1 man with training and in good shape.
>A man can pick up a petite woman like a ragdoll and use her as a weapon.
>A man who knows how to punch
None of those are average, which is what the question is about.

Your have just added so many factors to the equation that its heavily swayed toward the man.

>>34283949
But in genera I do agree with your assessment. With training and morale in his favour, 1 man can take down 20 women.

But the same is true for 1 man against 20 men as well. 20 men with 0 training and 0 experience can be taken down down 1 man with excellent martial arts and in amazing shape and strength in a fist fight, especially if he can outpace them and get the rest to flee.

>20
If two of them know how to grapple, yes.

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>>34284048
Especially if they're this guy against 20 lanky dudes and the guy happens to be a combat specialist

>>34284056
>300Ibs meat monster former special forces going up against 20 inexperienced dudes in a fist fight
I want to see this so bad

>>34284048
>>34284056

Except youre forgetting one factor:

>psychology

Men are more likely to surround him, work as a group and stand their ground.

Women lack any of those insticts.

>>34282004
All they would have to do is repeatedly kick him in the nuts

>>34284098
>Women lack any of those insticts.
Depends on the women. Many civilian men lack these instincts too.
>Men are more likely to surround him,
Depends on the men.

It's just as likely they piss themselves seeing the size of the guy and most of them run outright.

But I bet even trying to surround him 20 skinny guys aren't going to have an easy time against a walking meat tank that knows how to swing and grapple.

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>>34284098
>Men are more likely to surround him, work as a group and stand their ground.
And even if they do, that's not going to stop this guy hyped on adrenaline who could literally kill them with one huge hit to the jaw or neck.

>>34284118

>grappling against 20 men

You really dont understand the concept do you?

>>34284141
If you are proficient at grappling, you can avoid being grappled yourself and pinned.

Especially if the rest of them don't even have proper grappling training.

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>>34284141
Also as mentioned a big enough guy could pick up a smaller guy and swing him around, just like he'd do it in the women scenario.

>>34284136

I always wanted to see Hafþór pick a person up by the neck with one arm, lift him straight up and slam him to the ground.

>>34284206

I always wanted to see that snownigger get rekt by a boxer half his size.

>>34281894
Depending on the dude, 20 bitches couldn't even handle one good man.

Most dudes have the cardio to be able to out run them, and the power to knock them the fuck out.

Outrun the pack and spread it the fuck out, then close with the leaders and crush their tiny little heads.

Rinse. Repeat.

>>34284434
Yeah.

It doesn't even have to be men against women. The point is, so long as there is a significant difference in strength, ability, courage, and skill, one person can defeat 20.

>>34284390

Boxing is for faggots, they easily lose all the time against people who can grapple The guy who plays the mountain has been training in a few martial arts since after his spar with that one UFC guy. So with his size, strength, now with skill, he can easily fuck up a boxer.

>>34284048
20 men are more likely to manage it as they are faster, tougher, stronger , have testosterone and are braver/ better at working together

>>34281894

> Could 20 average people barehanded another single average person who is just slightly stronger?

You should have your answer right now.

If we are talking average vs average, 5 or 6 vs 1 are more than enough. 10 is already an overkill.

>>34284476
have you ever actually trained before?

Sorry for the shit-tier audio, but scene relevant:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyvdgbALhp0

>>34282138
>propaganda figures

>>34284852
>>34284889
The point isn't that men aren't stronger, but that if you get a big enough difference than one person can defeat 20.

Whether its one average man defeating 20 average/weaker women.

Or one exceptional man defeating 20 average/weaker men.

The same principle applies. If you have a big enough difference, he can win.

>>34284852
Also all of those are relative to women. Yes they are faster, tougher, stronger, smarter than women. And one man can defeat 20 women who are weaker than him.

But again, one man who is fast enough tough enough, strong enough, and smart enough can defeat 20 men who are weaker than him.

>>34284976
the average guy is not going to be able to beat up 20 women. there simply isnt a big enough "difference" or whatever youre trying to say

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>>34282137
Except make a good Ghostbusters movie. Or be president. Or even be cooks since the best chefs in the world are all men. Or you know....be women. Pic related.

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They can just pin him down and choke him/tear his throat open with their nails.

>>34281894
You ambush anyone, you can kill them.

It's not physical strength it's psychological impetus.

>>34281894
>>34282156
You retarded or something?
This whole thread seems like when you say "women" you mean "meek stepford wives"
In a life or death situation, I doubt anyone is going to be slapping. Clawing, choking, biting, maybe. Not slapping.

My wife's a newfoundlander. And I know a lot of irish chicks that could probably beat the piss out of an average guy. And not one of them would slap anyone. Dated an irish girl that had a wicked punch. Always came out when she drank. Had a tooth knocked out with a bat in a fight and still rallied.

On average, I would say it would take 2-3 average women to KILL 1 average man.
Probably 6-7 to SUBDUE him. If they were playing for keeps, there will probably be a lot of blood and biting.

>>34284999
>>34284976

Would have to be an exceptional man, a hell of a man. Like the Mountain

>>34281894
By average what exactly do you mean?
Do you mean western "does no excercise" average or African "walks 20 miles a day for water" average

Western no chance unless they're in an enclosed space, average women simply doesn't have the muscle mass and aggression to drop the average man on their own and lacks the killer instinct to attack all as one massive group

>>34285047
>dat dress
*splortch*

>>34281952
Women can arguably be more aggressive than men. Compare two women fighting to two men and I'd be willing to bet the women make you wince more. They're animals.

>>34281894
yes, only if they are covered in baby oil and naked and I volunteer.

>>34282004
100 pounds jumping on your head over and over will kill you

>>34285142

You are a massive faggot, or a tiny "man".

If they are aggressive absolutely, if they are being little bitches about it then maybe not.

>>34281894
Dude, 20 women could rape a guy to death, i really don't think beating him to death is going to pose much of a problem. If they really wanted to it wouldn't be much of a fight.

>>34282417
>>34282469
>they are cuter when white women won't date you

>>34281894
Absolutely. You're retarded for asking. Sage goes in all fields.

Jesus Christ. What a mong.

>>34282004
>Choking
>Stomping on heads
>Good punch to the head/throat
Absolutely, I'd be very surprised if anybody could come out of this situation unscathed

>>34285327
anyone whose been a lifeguard can tell you if two dudes are fighting in the water, go save them

if its two chicks, save yourself

>>34282284
didn't think about the social aspect
kinda neat

>>34282365
we all can agree, 1 v 1 and the woman will drop

but in terms of aggression, and I mean life or death, the woman is fucking insane and is willing to do anything to win (until she hits the ground)

>>34282764
Found the female

>>34285035
Dat girl is pretty hot.

>>34282585
You're missing 3 women in those figures.

>>34288765
He's assuming 3 are MtF and thus don't count.

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>>34288590
>girl
Ho boy, anon, let me explain that isn't a woman. It's a tranny. Used to be the boy on the left in the brasil speedo.

>>34286832
lolwut? Women in life or death tend to cower or freeze, and often experience incontinence in such situations.

This whole thread is /TV/ tier.

I've known women to kill men in all sorts if ways as well as several lynchings on the streets for rapists, I've know a 5'5" fat lady to take the man that had been beating her for year and flip him clean over her head and lay in to ground and pound the life out of him.
As for ferocity I saw the aftermath of a young 5'9'' girl with a machete after she went to town on her abusive uncle.

No one here has ever known a real woman. Anorexic cum dumpsters don't count.

>>34285047
I was really expecting a cock to pop out. look what you fuckers did to me

>>34289146
It doesn't help when they post this >>34288869 who later became this >>34285035
with his cock still intact.

Are you thinking of a Bacchanalia type of situation, or just 20 average women vs 1 dude. Either way the dude is totally fucked unless he's made serious preparations.

I have this hypothesis about women. Men are driven to violence due to the evolution. It's very rare that a male that lives past 30 actually enjoys violence. (it happens, but it's rare in my experience). On the other hand, it seems to me that women truly enjoy violence when they do it, or if they do the sideways murderyourreputationanddestroyeverythingyouare type of thing. Like they relish that shit. It's wierd.

>>34288869
Is it bad that both photos get me aroused? Should I consult my local priest about this?

>>34289342
They're competing for mating against rivals. They don't have the same drive to kill because they are a commodity when compared to a man who can keep producing sperm and impregnating them.

So they just make fun of each other's clothes and shoes and hair and other dumb shit.

Women are basically overgrown children. That's why I think about choking them sometimes.

>>34282364
>So they kidnap them and force them to pump kids out.

>implying this isnt what would happen IRL

people wanna be gangster till its time to do gangster shit.

>>34289356
you are clearly not hanging around the same women I am.

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>>34289084
>No one here has known a real woman
I've even fought a couple. Incredibly slow and weak.

>>34281952
>less likely to go at it 100%
sure

>women tend to be less aggressive,
hahahaha

>>34289293
how do you know this?

women and children can have their arms snapped just from being manhandled, spousal abuse often peaks at the point where the husband is shaking or grabbing the wifes arm and breaks it.

>>34289506
Read online that "she" still has a functional eenie weenie and some men who have hired her for escort service claim it's not big enough or hard enough to let her top you.

I accepted my fate as wanting to bang hot trannies. Does that make me gay? I think not!

>>34289555
you've obviously done your research i'll take your word for it

>>34289566
I'm still torn whether I finid the male version or female version hotter. In that other photo with two of his friends I kinda feel like it's not fair they are pretty like girls. Does this make me a fag?

>>34282380
I see how a downed women can still bite at the ankle and clench down on you impeding one's movement. Shall I recommend investing in ankle armor or otherwise boots with strong ankle leather. also bracers for shielding and blunt force purposes.

>>34284953
If I recall, the guy suffered from over-pressure, concussion, exhaustion, and having his fingers/hands broken by the tank crew. Also it is a movie, he could have been Jesus and still lost if the writers wanted it. At that point you may as well link this and call it "relevant".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcIy9NiNbmo
"Relevant" combat scenes.

people saying women can fight ITT:

they don't know what to do if they don't have long hair to grapple

>>34281894
I think we're all overlooking injury. At some point you're gonna trip and go down, and some bitch is gonna stomp your hand and break your fingers, or you're gonna catch a finger in the eye, or smack your head on the ground and daze yourself - and then you're fucked. Five or six women, sure, maybe even nine or ten - but twenty? At some point you'll be too injured to fight at full effectiveness, then they'll pin you down and fuck you up.

>>34282667
That wouldn't be too bad at first, pretty hot until you know, they kill you

>>34282468
>Lost a leg and an arm
>Meh, just doing a one arm pullup then

>>34281894
I don't so how they would not be able to.
20 women versus one man.
Just have a few hold him down and then the heaviest one could just stomp on his throat

>>34281894

In all the male on male fights I've seen, there's always been an unspoken chivalry between the two. Even if they have beef.

The 1 woman/woman fight I have seen puts the others to shame. They have no respect, holding nothing back, and are fucking dirty as hell. If there's access to a weapon or a rock they will fucking use it. (think shovel girl)
The biggest thing is that even after the fight they won't be done with it. After the fight the dudes go their separate ways, might even be friends and shake hands. But women will still keep on until another fight breaks out, or guys get involved.

>Grabbing hair
>Clawing
>Constantly calling each other a bitch.
>Will automatically assume they won, no matter what happened.

Don't believe me? Go on youtube and check for yourself. Like someone said, women are downright animals.

>>34284883

Its like you people have never wrangled a woman. Theyre like children. Im not even a lanklet and women are like ragdolls for me.

>>34282439

that is a best case scenario

try a single 9mm browning vs hundreds of sub-human irish

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhfgQOLSrTQ

>>34288765
The remaining 3 surrender, orbit around the alpha and compete for his sperm.

>>34289574
Only if you don't want to violently murder them to compensate for the fact that they arouse you and assure those around you that you definitely ain't no fag.

>>34282723
Confirmed.

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>>34289574
>I kinda feel like it's not fair they are pretty like girls. Does this make me a fag?

if other "pretty boy" twinks make you feel that way then maybe you should come to terms with being a little bit bisexual

>>34282413

>ak-47 for fighting men
>small twig for fighting women

>>34281894
>>34281894
Yes.even 3 or 4 could.
>>34281952
women are less likely to get in a fight but when they do they're out to maim.
>>34282396
threaten their status or children...

>>34282380
What's the story?

>>34282710
you sound like a fat manchild stroking his microcock

>>34282792
The rotation thing turned out to be bullshit actually, iirc. If you told the group that women normally do better they would do better and vice versa. The winner was almost always whoever you said would win before.

>>34282004

stomping on his head or strangling him.

Every nay-sayer here is saying the same three things:
>Women are uncivil when fighting
>T-they're not that weak guys
>They could hold him down
You're ignoring their complete lack of combative cooperative psychology. 20 average women is less than useless because they could never work together. After the first three go down hard, their collective will would start to break. Viciousness in fighting some other little cunt counts for nothing in a coordinated effort, which is what OP asked for.
>B-but what if they were trained??
Then they wouldn't be average.

>>34281894

Bodyweight is one of the better indicators for healthy humans capabilities.

The average man can fight two women of average size.

Beyond 4 combatants on either side, mob rules start to take effect: You can be an 300 lb body builder, but when there's seven people attacking you, they're going to start doing damage simply based on your divided attention, attacking your organs, joints, face and head.

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>>34281894
Depends.

>>34281894

Just need 2-3 people to restrain him and:

https://youtu.be/-2GozE6XEqg

>>34293303

Has noone in this thread ever been in a real fight with more than 2 people?

Holy shit you people have no idea what youre talking about.

>>34292182

20 random bitches at a restaraunt won't do shit.

You get 20 people who are in a group already and know eachother and have even a basic collective goal to go savage on a dude could and would wreck his shit, unless he's some Zorro motherfucker.

>>34283582
What about college softball players? Everyone is talking about how women can't organize, and are weak, but if one or two of those average women have played on a league then you have a general who will lead the pack, and be able to keep up with the man in a fight.

>>34285142
This. Although I'd say two Irish women to one American man.

>>34293411
problem is getting the collective female group

>>34294737
Exactly, it's impossible. I've been trying to explain this. A war party is not the same thing as a soccer team.

>>34284074
I would pay money to see this

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>>34281894
yes, one is plenty. No violence needed. Just continues rejection and the man will kill himself sooner or later by succumbing to the everlasting humiliation and loneliness.

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>>34282468
>That chick in the back
>not sure what to do
>the $45,000 dollar man just one-arm lifts himself up
>the madman actually gets over
>woman performs the universal "what in the fuck" gesture
>meanwhile Fara Flatchest makes a beeline for the impossible to climb support pole

>>34282147
This.

>What is an outlier for $500 Alex.

Even then.

Put that bitch up against a slodong scale of men from bruce lee to jackie chan to sammo hung and watch her wrecked.

>>34282380
Fucking awesome.