Ruger Announces 10mm 1911

I'm trying to find a reason to hate this

>>34277463
FUCK IM THROWING MONEY AT THE SCREEN BUT NOTHING IS HAPPENING

>>34277463
Why has Ruger suddenly become so based in the past 10 years.

Why has Ruger suddenly become so based in the past 10 years?

>>34277463
So, how long until someone puts a 9mm Dillon barrel out for these? Cause I got a thing for bottleneck cartridges and I feel the need for speed.

>>34277482
Only reason i can come up with is that they announced this first instead of a 4" version of their 8 shot .357

>>34277463
Fuuuuuuck, I just bought a Dan Wesson bruin for double the price.

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>>34277463

>>34277463
FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK
Wife is NOT going to be happy when she sees the bank statement this month

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>>34277463
Nice
I know Ruger likes to overbuild their shit
Should probably last longer than Colt's

Why wouldn't you just buy a 10mm Glock? Do you like carrying the least amount of rounds possible?

>>34277533
Bill Ruger died

>>34277739
uh oh. the glockfags are here

>>34277768
15 rounds of 10mm seems better than, what, seven or eight from the Ruger? Also, you can mount a RDS or reflex on the Glock.

>>34277739
Mostly cs that would involve coming out of the closet

>>34277781
O H N O
H
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>>34277784
The Glock 40 is man's sidearm. The 1911 is the kind of sidearm people who touch their grandkids in naughty places enjoy.

>>34277463
I am now fully erect

>TFW I was working on the 9mm version when they shut this shit down twice and now it's out after I quit Ruger.

At least I can still get it for like 50% off.

>>34277805
Glocks are for niggers. Are you a nigger? Yes you are, because you're trash talking a classic.

>>34277805
>polymer grenade
>man's sidearm

Fucking kys

>>34277817
What area of the factory did you work in?

>>34277781
You can mount an RDS on a 1911, Better trigger, has a safety, more weight for soaking up recoil, more accurate design, and 10mm glocks are notorious for being unreliable with hot loads

>thetruthaboutguns

Am I the only one who wonders if they are spamming here with click bait?

>10mm
I hope it isn't made out of shitty castings and low quality mim parts like the rest of their handguns ;)

>>34277463
Can someone redpill me on the advantages of a bushingless 1911 over those that use bushings? From a quick Google search all I'm seeing is that when it comes time for a new "bushing" on a standard 1911 bushingless 1911s need new barrels or slides instead of a $15 or so drop in part, why in the hell would I want a bushingless 1911?

>>34277482
>Bushingless
>Bull barrel
>Need paperclip for disassembly
If they just took their regular ass SR1911 rechambered it for 10mm I would be a lot happier.
>>34278039
Bull barrel. That's about it.

>>34277929
American, 1911, MK4, SR series. All over the place.

>>34277533
>>34277544
Bill died and Michael O'Fifer made the company really sweet for the previous 10 years, I'm hoping his successor continues the streak.

>>34277463
>10mm

Literally just expensive .40

>>34278070
>paperclip to disassemble
Fuck you springfield for supplying an Allen key that doesn't fit anything on the gun but is 3mm too long to be used as the disassembly pin

>>34277463
This is cool but god damnit I want more double stacked 10mm guns. I'd love a double stack CZ or Sig in 10mm.

>>34277463
Shit
I just bought a 1911, I can't buy another one so soon!
The next in rotation is a bolt action not a 1911, fuckin Ruger trying to mess up my schedule !

>>34278003
>shitty castings
So you don't know anything about investment castings.

>>34278130
If investment castings are so great, how come Ruger has no LE or Military sales?

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>>34278149

>>34278149
They largely focus on sporting arms, with military and LEO coming second, flagship products like the American, GP100, Blackhawk and 10/22 aren't really geared towards the High Speed Low Drag market.
They've always put sporting arms first.

They're also among the most proficient and prolific investment casters in America, all kinds of things are outsourced to them because they are the best. And they're good at it, I challenge you to put a 629 through the same loadings a Super Redhawk can manage.

It's a manufacturing process like any other.
You talk shit about Metal Injection Molding, suggesting all you're going by is fuddlore, you've heard it used in nebulous contexts but I bet you can't even articulate what makes it bad.

>>34278302
This
If you handload the high end of the .44 mag, the reloading manuals even say to only use in super Blackhawks and redhawks.
I have seen model 29s absolutely destroyed by hot .44 mags. Crooked cranes, pitted forcing cones, blown out cylinders, barrel splits, the timing gears stripped.

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>>34277463
I live in MA
Will I get this?

>>34278149

Not many, but it still counts:

>awarded a contract for 5,000 9mm pistols by the U.S. Army Tank-automotive and Armaments Command, Rock Island Arsenal, IL.

http://www.ruger.com/news/2004-12-23.html

>>34278349
It's not MA certified yet, sadly.

>>34277463
Why does my wiener feel feel funny?
>>34277533
Bill Ruger is dead.
>>34277805
>piss poor double action striker design

>>34277463
I want this in my life, I already have a g20 and I'm too cheap for a bren ten, I can't ever find a 1006 and want another 10 badly.

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Fuck, now I'm torn between this and a 10mm 1911A2 from RIA/Armscor.

>>34278125
>Sig in 10mm.
why is it that they have a 320 in .45 but not in 10mm

>>34278460
Fuuuck, well thanks for confirming anyway.
Hopefully it'll get the OK soon and I can own some fun shit.

>>34278439
As a Ruger fanboy, I'll say that I'd probably pick another kind of pistol for military service, just personal preference.

On the other hand, handguns have very minor relevance and sees little practical use in military contexts, so as long as it's something that 'just works', you're in the green. Helps that the Ruger P series was cheap and robust, I guess.

>>34278083
Why are Ruger autoloaders so bad?

>>34278476
get the RIA, its double stacked and looks better

Black barrel and controls + stainless frame and slide = very attractive.

I would rip on Ruger for making "only a 1911" with low capacity magazine, but I just spent $1300 on a Sig P220 10mm and it only has 8 rounds in the magazine as well. Both are "obsolete," but unless there are any egregious problems with the Ruger, I'll probably end up owning both.

>>34278070
>>>Bushingless
>>Bull barrel
>>Need paperclip for disassembly
Yeah, but the RIA 1911 in 10mm is the same way, at least the original single-stack one is.

>>34278531
Do you own one? I'd love to hear from an owner of a "Big Rock." The guns are very elusive.

>>34278204
Those will probably be replaced by AR15s soon, if not already.
>>34278302
Umm no sweety, the Mini14 was designed as a military firearm first, and it was a total failure in testing, then Ruger slopped his diarrhea rifle on civilians
> I bet you can't even articulate what makes it bad.
shit grain structure.
Also, they have questionable QC
>>34278439
>only 5000 pistols
>2004

>>34277559
Delight in the fact that it will still be a nicer gun.

>https://www.riflegear.com/p-6802-rock-island-armory-pro-ultra-match-6-hc-big-rock-10mm.aspx
>$1000 for Flipshit
....vs. $600 for a Glock. I don't like either option, but at least the Glock is $400 less expensive.

>>34278602
but at least it will never explode in your hand

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>>34278584

>only 5000
I clearly stated that it was not many, but still a contract.

>2004
I didn't realize there was a statute of limitations on bullshit claims.

>>34278602
STFU about Glock
>less expensive
Poorfag has spoken

>>34278615
>hurrdurr muh glocknade amirite?
It's because of low level trolling like this that the actual problems with the 10mm Glocks never get discussed or addressed. I've owned two of them and I've never shot a more jam-prone, ammo-sensitive polymer handgun in my life than the Glock 20. I just put in an order the other day for my third one because apparently I never learn (and no I don't own the other two anymore). Hopefully it won't be such a piece of shit.

>>34277805

problemsolver.jpg

>>34278643
I'm not a poorfag. I just don't like to take expensive risks that might end with the result of me having thrown my money away. Granted, RIA does have good customer service, but there is such a thing as a gun so flawed that CS can't fix it. I just don't know enough about the Big Rock, and I have a very low opinion about Filipino guns in general.

>>34278661
Just get a citidel, they are made by the same manufacture and sold for a few hundred less.
Also SAM manufacturing makes a great 1911. They are imported through LSI (I think) and they make great guns for usually $800 or so dollars.

>>34278661
WTF are you talking about?
This is a RUGER SR1911 10mm thread

>>34278719
People brought up the Rock Island Armory 10mm. It might be hard for you, but at least try to keep up.

>>34278526
They aren't.

>>34278584
>the Mini-14 was shopped around as a Mil/Leo weapon
>that means Ruger doesn't largely focus on civilian markets

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>>34278125
>CZ-75 in 10mm
What about the EAA Witness?

>>34278125
Imagine how cool it would be to get something actually novel in 10mm
>5" bull barrel
>gas-motivated action and low bore axis for dat recoil reduction
>double-stack with modular grips
>thicc poly gun like a USP
>look like anything that isn't part of the Browning ancestry triad of 1911, HP, and CZ

>>34277533

>so based

yeah only after fucking up my ability to buy any sort of new model handgun

fuck sf

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>>34277482
>Ruger

There's the reason. Into the trash it goes.

Why won't Ruger build a 12ga pump shotgun to give Moss and Remington a run for their money?

I feel they could make a great shotgun.

>>34277482
PLEASE READ MANUAL BEFORE OPERATING PLEASE BE SAFE AND WEAR EYE AND EAR PROTECTION AND WEAR YOUR SEAT BELT WHILE DRIVING TO THE RANGE THANK YOU FOR BUYING RUGER.

>>34279102
ok Larry, isn't it past your bedtime?

>>34279161
because they'd be competing with Mossberg and Remington's alreadt extremely popular shotguns

>>34277559
All 1911s are not made equal

Don't be retarded friend

>post pics

>>34279255
If you hold a new production 870 and you're impressed you're either (1) new to guns or (2) stupid. They're trash now, utter trash. Kel-Tec makes better guns than Remington in 2017. Fuck, Hi-Point firearms is a better company than Remington.

>>34279301
A new Remington still feels better to me than a rattly old Mossberg

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>>34277463
the future is fucking now

>>34278584
Post a micorgraph if you're so certain the microstructure sucks.

Oh wait, you don't have any proof to back that up? Must just be another assblasted glock fanboy.

>>34279318
The last 870 expresses I saw last time I was at a gunshow brand new. Every time I pumped the action the fucking trigger group shifted and bent around.

>>34278785
They tried and fail, which is why they focus on civvies NOW.

Well im glad I went to the ruger website and saw my mark 4 has a safety recall

>>34278149
>If investment castings are so great, how come Ruger has no LE or Military sales?

Because they do not compete for LE and military contracts. Have you actually read about what those major competitions entail? They are highly valuable if you win, but they also require huge investments of time and money to participate. This is compounded by the fact that the competitions themselves are often compromised by politics and kickbacks (look at any of the trials involving the M4, the fiascos that occurred before/during the adoption of the M16, or the controversies surrounding the M9, the Pancor Jackhammer etc) and there is no guarantee that your product will win even if it is the most superlative one tested.

That being said, Ruger has shown that it DOES have the ability to win military/LE contracts if they try. When Bill Ruger was alive, their DA revolvers actually beat out S&W in a number of big contracts (Border Patrol and Air Force, among others) and performed incredibly well in testing.

>>34278772
My Sr-9 and Sr-45 were garbage jam factories. The 9 got sent in twice and sold, the 45 once and sold. I gave up on them.

>>34279220
Better then the hillary hole lol

>>34277463
Where the hell can I find a good 1911 in 9mm or 10mm without a palm safety

>>34279474
You probbly could just pin the saftey or even glue it in place. Sounds terriable to do, but an easy fix I imagine.

>>34279415
t. mossberg employee

>>34277700
>le delta elite crack meme
Literally doesn't exist in production models

>>34279474
Do you have a moment to talk about our Lord and Savior, Tape?

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>>34279495
True. For me it has to do with aesthetic. I have never bought a 1911 because I hate the idea of having the thing clapping and wiggling around when I finger my gun. Already have 2 Hi-Powers for that very reason.

>>34278039
There is no advantage to bull barrel 1911s outside of more weight at the muzzle.
The barrel is supported on both ends so the extra rigidity of the bull barrel does nothing for accuracy, and like you found out, unlike with a gun with a bushing once the fit of the barrel to the slide wears out it's time for a new barrel instead of an oversized bushing

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>>34279102
lose some weight, fatty

>5" bbl

D R O P P E D
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>>34279298
Here you go, my baby in all her freshly cleaned glory.

>>34279744
I'd eat her ass

>>34278109
wrong

>>34277547
You realize that's it's just a 1911 and 9x25 barrels for 1911s have existed for as long as the cartridge has

>>34278602
Paid 475 for mine

>>34278003
Ruger is literally the best when it comes to MIM and casting

>>34278646
Stop limp wristing it faggot

>>34279796
I do not know that. Well, I do now, but you know what I mean.

>>34279796
Wouldn't a 9x25 barrel just be a hench af .40 barrel?

>>34279458
>Doesn't say what ammo they used
Fedora limp wristers are the easiest to detect

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nope

>>34279838
>i don't really know or understand anything relevant about this situation or what you said
>also i can't read english too well, phrases like ammo sensitivity are too high level and best ignored for my fragile ego's sake
>but maybe if i mention this one thing i heard about glocks, then my friends will be impressed
>and if i call him a faggot, he will surely be too emotionally injured to call me out on my total bullshit

Point and laugh, folks. This guy is the reason why /k/ is a wasteland of expertise.

>>34279744
Muh dik. Its got the Jericho style front end. How can i handle such a thing.

>>34277781
Not everyone is a spray and pray adherent.

1911...a design that hasn't been relevant in about 100 years.

Fuck that shit.

>>34277463
I think their only gaff so far was that mk4 recall and them stop making the 357 bolt actions.

10mm can be finicky i hope they check and double check this before release.

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>>34281407
What's your favorite handgun then anon?

Ruger needs to bring back that mini 14 stock they'd make a killing.

Wouldn't mind a security six return either.

>>34278204
I bet he loves it when a plan comes together.

Memes aside, what is the best 10mm pistol to own?

>Be a DA/SA Double-Stack mag guy
>Whole of US manufacturing be like "1911s"
>Oneofthesedays.jpg

>>34278881
>tfw no p320 in 10mm
>tfw no 10" buntline revolver in 10mm

>>34281424
I actually prefer a makarov.

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>>34281532
I suppose we all have our tastes though, and sitting around needlessly nitpicking other peoples tastes to make ourselves feel better is fucking retarded. You like the .380 ones or are you a 9x18 kinda guy? I picked up one of the IJH-70 .380 models for about $250 and I enjoy it, It's nice, compact, easy on the eyes and due to it's fairly heavy construction recoil is non-existent, pretty good budget carry gun in a pinch.

>>34281446
Glock or a Dan Wesson would be my bet, depending on your needs/desires.

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>>34281532
>1911 irrelevant even though manufactures are still using the same drop barrel concept to this day.

>Prefers a Makarov that uses what might as well be a proprietary round and has a fixed barrel. A design older than the 1911.

Don't get me wrong I CC a Mak, and don't even own a 1911, but the lord and savior John Mosses Browning is by no means irrelevant.

>>34278646
Your wrists must be made of paper

I have a gen 2 g20 that hasn't failed yet

>>34280195
No faggot, I understand all too well.
>I've owned two of them and I've never shot a more jam-prone, ammo-sensitive polymer handgun in my life than the Glock 20.
Two jam prone guns that are not known to be jam prone.
Yupp, you're either a dumb ass using complete shit ammo or more likely you are a limp wristed, noodle arm faggot.
So much butthurt.
Your story conveniently includes you sold them
>>34280195
tl;dr limpwrist is obvious butthurt kys
>>34281622
paper wrists kek

Rock Island has a few different 10mm 1911's(including a double stack), Ruger late to the game as usual.

>>34278838
I, too am interested in what /k/ thinks of the witness

>>34277557
I live in Newport, NH. I have been shooed away from the gate at Pine Tree castings after demanding they make me a 5" 8 shot Redhawk and take all of my money. The Americans are moving down to Caroline, so this will probably take over that production line. That means I'm gonna get to shoot one soon, since my buddy runs that line!

>>34279220
They actually have moved that to the underside of the frame on the SR1911s, so it's pretty much a non-issue

>>34281741
>Giving a shit about /k/'s opinion
Stay here long enough, you'll learn.

>>34281665
>Made out of pot metal in a malarial jungle.

>>34279497
rems literally rust and fall apart on their own and you're calling that anon a shill?

>>34278496
I would sell crack to afford this

>>34279458
>Polymer framed striker fired handguns
>garbage
what the hell did you expect, whippersnapper?

>>34278149
Turboprops are investment casted.

>>34277781
>you can mount a RDS or reflex on the Glock
I just threw up in my mouth a little.

>>34281757
I kind of like trolling arg

>>34277482
10mm in a 1911

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>>34281819
yes, and?

>>34281763
yet one of the most durable 1911's there is according to battlefield vegas

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>>34277482
It's a 1911

Call me when someone makes a hi-power in 10mm

>>34281863
No clue who, or what this supposed authority on the quality of firearms is.

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>>34281910
The Bren Ten already tried and failed

>>34278615
>Flip pot metal will never explode

I wouldn't be so sure.

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>>34279497
>remshill

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>>34279474
Star Model B is 9mm and lacks the gay grip safety.

>>34279536
I get you.

I wish someone made kits for various 1911s to turn the grip safety into just plain grip, I hate the feel of the things, makes the grip feel less solid and definite.

>>34279810
Ssssh, don't ruin the bias he's built up with buzzwords! He actually thinks he understands what he's talking about and knows something other people doesn't.

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>>34281464
I miss the 5906

>>34282014
Not him but, a range that gets an extraordinary amount of no-gunz tourist traffic.

If it withstands the abuse, it may be an alright gun.

>>34282352
These are overrated.

>>34281622
>>34281652
Oh, look. Two posts in a row saying the same thing. Totally not samefag, though, right?

>>34282094
Because burgers have shit taste in guns.

>>34282306
Yeah and the extractors appear to be made of a type of firm cheese.

>>34281613
Browning's short-recoil operation is the standard because the average pistol cartridges have pressures too high for blowback

I like straight blowback, very reliable, and having a fixed barrel makes for an accurate gun; but it's not a practical system for 9mm Luger

>>34277482
Flat mainspring housing.

>>34277669

>letting your wife see the gun account statement

>>34282708
If you're a strikerbabby who can't handle a bit of heft.

>>34283032
>magazines don't fucking work
>small company hemorrhaging money
>never manage to solve this in time
>company dies because expenses outweigh revenue

OH YEAH! DUMB AMERICAN MARKET, TOTALLY THEIR FAULT! WHY DIDN'T THEY BUY THAT FUCKING HUNK OF SHIT THAT LITERALLY DIDN'T WORK OUT OF THE BOX

Are you gonna blame Americans too when the retarded 7.5mm BRNO doesn't make any sales because it's the cost of a transferable machinegun?

>>34282094
>>34283032
>>34283928
Also it had a superfluous (and objectively dangerous) crossbolt safety in the slide serrations, in addition to the thumb safety on the frame.

how does the recoil spring and guide stay captive on a bull barrel 1911 if there is no bushing to contain it?

>>34283978
So in conclusion, the Bren Ten was only amazing in concept:
>all steel
>cool new 10mm Auto cartridge
>DA/SA trigger
>Czechnology for looks

I'd honestly rather see CZ themselves make a proper 10mm Auto pistol.

I'd love someone to make a conversion kit for the CZ-97 for 10mm

>>34278149
2/10 getting me to reply

The mini 14 has seen law enforcement use in Europe and the US. See >>34278204 and I believe Paris police use the mini 14.

Some Rhodesian soldiers used the Mini 14, especially in Private Militias. The Royal Bermuda Regiment used it as their primary rifle for a short period.

it has been well liked too. All the issues by now have been worked out, and it's an "Accurate enough" rifle.

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>>34284036
Most military and LEO contract Mini-14s had a thicker barrel (along with a flash-hider and bayonet lug), regardless of if they were semi-auto or the actual select-fire ones.
Their accuracy was acceptable.

>>34283998
You can always pay $1000 for a Tanfoglio/EAA Stock, or a Rock Island Big Rock if you want an all metal 10mm that holds 15 in the magazine.

>>34279437
Only reason is because people aren't engaging the safety all the way so the gun might go off when the safety is only half engaged, go figure. It's pretty much operator error, just don't be dumb. I'm not sending mine in and I live 10 miles from the factory.

>>34284521
Modern firearms shouldn't have safety levers that can be stopped at a middle position. You might see that on guns designed prior to WWII, but consumers expect manufacturers to use a functioning detent in the safety design in all modern firearm designs.

>>34284686
I agree completely, and the mk4 safety id's really squishy, but still. People should make sure they're engaging the safety

>>34277932
>has a safety
>a good thing

fucking retard

Ruger plus anything with a cylinder equals great gun. Ruger plus anything with a slide equals shit. Simple.

I own four Rugers, two revolvers and two semiauto pistols. The revolvers are awesome. I'd trade the LCP and LC9 for fucking Hi Points.

>>34284987
>Ruger plus anything with a cylinder equals great gun. Ruger plus anything with a slide equals shit. Simple.
I agree, unfortunately. The original P-series guns were at least very durable and reliable, but then they should be seeing as they're completely overbuilt bricks. The current SR series are very nice looking for what they are, but completely unremarkable in every other way compared to the competition. Why can't Ruger seem to get this right?

>>34285018
Well, Ruger did save $10 or so on my LCP by giving it the lousiest trigger ever made, and then reinvested it in their "new" red trigger LCP and sold many more. Savvy business decision in the short term, at least, add it doesn't seem to have hurt their sales thanks to all the loyal Ruger revolver crowd who would defend a Ruger made out of recycled pig shit.

>>34282352
I miss the Model 39.

>>34279917
Idk what your question is, but no.
9x25 is a 10mm case necked down to 9mm, capable of obscene shit like 95gr @ 2000 fps and 135 at 1700fps.

>>34282708
By what standard. Nobody has ever said they were the greatest shit ever

>>34283032
They sold plenty of guns, it was used in Miami Vice ffs. The company just couldn't get their shit together.. guns without mags aren't gonna do well

>>34283991
The same as any other gun that isn't a 1911. It's held in the slide assembly. That captive assembly, linkless barrels and one or two other little touches are natural progressions for the 1911 that never became standard for whatever reason

>>34284032
That essentially what any of the Tanfoglio 10mm are since they're built on the large frame and and Tanfoglios themselves are somewhat improved versions of the CZ

>>34284987
So sell them you retard

>>34285018
Adequate =/= shit
They've never never gone for great, just great for the money