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What is the best gun lubricant? What do you use /k/? (Bore cleaner is not lube)
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Ballistol
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>>34269821
Canola oil
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synthetic motor oil
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>>34269821
Cum
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>>34269821
lucas oil gun oil.
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>>34269821
semen
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>>34269821
I use Froglube on every type of action I have. Smells good so family doesn't complain, safe to use indoors, works hot or cold, and makes grime super easy to wipe away when cleaning
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>>34269954
Upboat 4 froggy.
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>>34269821
vegetable oil
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This stuff
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>>34269842
This.
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Brake cleaner and my saliva.
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I use Hoppes Elite and it seems to work reasonably well
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>>34269821
Hoppe's
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>>34270142
I've never seen that before

If it's silicon based, wouldn't it degrade plastic guns e.g. glock?
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Slip2k is pretty good. Avoid the Clap, RemOil, and Fireclean. And don't listen to the AR tards that swear by fucking car motor oil.
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>>34269821
The bodyfat of my enemies.
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>>34270267
How well does it keep rust off? How much do you have to apply for good rust prevention?
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Superlube doped with hexagonal boron nitride for sliding parts.

Slip2000 for parts that rotate and for tiny sliding parts where I can't apply super lube.
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>>34269821
CLP 4 lyfe
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>>34269853
Yep.
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>>34269821
I like ballistol for cleaning, but for actual lube purposes I'm a hoppes man for life, nothing beats that sweet banana smell.
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>>34270231
It's personal lubricant, not for blatgats.
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Spermaceti
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>>34269954
Does not work cold

Sorry frogfuckers
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I use Hoppe's #9 oil. Works goodly enough and its cheap. Doesn't fuck with my finish. RAND's Hog grease for AK and VZ. Honestly I'd use any grease but the dealer really wanted me to buy it and I'm a sucker for buying stuff from small gun stores (as long as they aren't retards) so I picked one up.


Unrelated; I'm picking up my MK23 tomorrow and I was wondering if lubrication of the barrel calls for oil or grease on the thing. I only own one other handgun (1911 type) and I just oil the outside of the barrel along with other contact points but the MK23 is a bigass pistol. Does it matter? I'm still going to shoot it, probably will end up putting my dick through the trigger guard and take a few pics.
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>>34269821
>best oil
Shooter's Choice FP10
>best grease
Shooter's Choice High Tech Gun Grease

There's a reason every competitive shooting team in the world uses these two.
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>>34269853
This is the only correct answer.
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>>34270231
Wrong gun friendo.

It's jackoff juice.
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>>34269821
snake oil
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>>34270920
How do you acquire this oil?

Every time I squeeze a snake all I get is poop.
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>>34270920
>that power cord
ytho
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Ed's Red 'n' Tacky grease. Cheap as fuck, works on everything and stays put.
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>>34270875
I have one, it doesnt matter, however gun grease is useless.
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FUCKING WD-40 why would anyone use anything else?
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>>34270360
Well, avoiding that would at least require clarifying the fat thoroughly.
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We talk about lubricants and grease all day, but Im looking for a protectant.
I use LSA on my guns. But Im looking for something to protect the metal from rust an environmental corrosion.
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>>34271212
See >>34271018
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Is it bad/harsh/overkill to use bore solvent after every shoot?

Hoenstly I just use Hoppes No. 9, let it soak in, clean it out with patches, then spray oil down the barrel.
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>>34271346
It might be a bit overkill if you only fired a few shots but generally speaking cleaning your rifle won't really damage it unless you're doing something really fucking retarded
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>>34271362
K, just wondering because I've heard some tales about bore solvent pitting the inside of the barrel and whatnot and wondered why so many people use CLP instead.
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>>34269842
>>34270147
These.
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>>34271346
A clean bore and a dirty bore have different points of impact. it matters if you're doing precision shooting, otherwise it's not a big deal.

Just know that the more you clean it the greater the chances of you fucking something up, even the if the chance is minuscule.

>>34271371
Ammonia based solvents can pit the bore if you let them sit for too long (1 hour +). Ammonia based solvents are the best thing for getting rid of copper fouling.
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Who Marvel Mystery Oil here?

Stuff is great at removing carbon buildup and fouling and leaves a light film of oil behind.

Though I wouldn't dare put it in my car's engine oil like the instructions tell you to do.
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>>34270594
CLP is good for all. I use Axel grease for the action
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>>34269821
Most Stuff: ATF. Mobil 1 Grease on Garands.
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Slip 2000 EWL and grease
I am trying Weaponshield, but Slip will be my main lube.
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>>34269842
FPBP
it smells but it works and is cheap AF.
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>>34271615
its actually really good for older engines . I had an old car that sat for 10+ years and the pistons were stuck. I poured some in each spark plug hole and let the son of a bitch sit for a couple days, and guess what? I'm driving the fucking nigger of a car this day
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>>34270360
MCQ Bushcraft uses animal fats to both cook with and maintain his tools/ shotgun while innawoods
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Cleaner:
Ballistol Klever Robla Solo Mil

CLP:
Ballistol Klever Gunex 3000
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>>34271387
They only cause pitting if they have air contact. MilFoam and Robla both tell you to completely fill the bore and let it sit overnight.
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CLP or white lithium grease
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>>34269821
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>>34269821

I use Viking Tactical RAND CLP as shown in the OP, because it was the first thing I saw on the shelf and the price was reasonable enough that I didn't really think about it past that. Froglube, Break Free CLP and Ballistol are OK too. I don't really care.
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>>34270931
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>>34273179
You don't want to get white lithium grease on you.
Unless you enjoy having cancer.
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>>34270231
Idk about plastics but if somebody uses this lube on you, you might start to feel degraded.
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How well would KY or Astroglide work as a gun lube?
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>>34273211
What are you cleaning your hands off by licking the grease off your fingers? As long As you wash your hands before you go shoving them inside a bag of chips you will be fine.
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Period blood desu honest
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Ballistol for cleaning and hard to reach places.
Based Lupus for greasing.
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>>34273179
Depends on the grease. Just don't use it for airguns or guns with silicone/rubber recoil buffers and you *should* be good. I've heard a tale or two of white lithium degrading seals on airguns.
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>>34273749
Why do you think I only use frog lube?
Lick it clean sempai
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>>34273355
Sort of well, maybe? If it's silicone-based it'll feel gross but work for a good while, though how it stands up to the heat generated by firing is anybody's guess. If it's water-based then you're up shit creek without a paddle as it'll dry in no time, not to mention wreck your gun via rusting.
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10W-30
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Anything wrong with remoil?
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Regular WD-40 mineral oil and Armistol.
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CLP for everything. Gonna switch to Slip EWL after this can of CLP is used up.

>>34274843
Too light.
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Copper antiseize on slide rails. clp/hoppes for whatever else.
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>>34273179
Same.

CLP on parts with low friction and white lithium on high friction areas
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>>34274843
Remoil will dry out and coagulate after a year or so in storage.

It also will gum up in cold temperatures
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>>34273749
>what is skin cancer
>what is skin absorption
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>>34269821
> Best Oil
FP-10 or Weaponshield
> Best Grease
Synco Super Lube
> Best CLP
Toss up between G96 Gun Treatment and good ol' Breakfree.
> Best Rust Prevention
Corrosion X
> Best Poorfag gun oil
Motor Oil.

I'm not a fan of Froglube or Fireclean. They freeze in cold weather and appear to go rancid after a few years, even if a gun is packed away carefully.

>>34271615
MMO is a great carbon and lead remover. Pretty decent light lube, but eclipsed by things like CLP.

>>34274843
Generally I'd stay away from Rem-Oil and the Hoppes 9 lubricating oil. They're both cheap, but do somewhat poorly on lubrication and rust prevention tests. The Hoppes 9 synthetic blend oil is actually pretty good, funny enough.

If you're not sure what to get, just get a can of CLP. You literally cannot fuck up by using CLP.
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>>34269821

http://www.grantcunningham.com/2006/05/lubrication-101/

https://www.scribd.com/doc/7363043/Lubrication-and-Lubricant-Selection
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>>34271212
That depends on whether you're talking about an internal surface with moving parts (and the clearances between them) that need to be lubricated or an external surface that is going to be handled.
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I know of no downside to use of synthetic motor oils for lubrication of AR15 rifles and plenty of positives.

1. Direct inpingement gas systems run very dirty and have much higher levels of carbon than piston type semi-auto systems or encountered in bolt guns.

2. The type of carbon and the manner in which it is deposited is very similar to what happens inside direct injection engines, especially those with turbochargers.

3. The operating environment of turbocharged direct injection engines, both gasoline and diesel, is very hostile, involving temperatures that approach 1500 degrees at the oil passageway surrounding the bearings in the turbo. The center shaft being protected by that oil spins at over 100,000 rpm.

4. Those engines run extremely low air to fuel ratios. That means the combustion process is super rich. The oil is much more prone to fuel dilution, and the residue that is left behind is very thick, dark and baked on carbon, if it is not picked up in the oil.

5. There are detergent additives in this type of motor oil that are especially designed to keep carbon deposits from sticking, or make it harder for them to do so.

6. The oil has to last a long time under these operating conditions, at least 3,500 to 5,000 miles. The number of combustion and exhaust cycles in such an engine in one minute of operation is probably more than an AR15 will endure in its entire useful life.

7. The viscosity of the oils, typically 5w-30 or 5w40, is ideal to cling to the parts in our rifles without running off or becoming sticky.

8. These oils seem to prevent or greatly reduce the tendency of nickel-boron BCGs to stain, if you elect to run one.

9.. Even the highest grade synthetics, like Mobile 1 or my favorite (a turbodiesel variation), Shell Rotella T-6, are only about $6 per quart. While that may be expensive for motor oil, it is very cheap compared to the various snake oils offered for our rifles, that may cost that much or more per ounce.
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>>34272152

Tried both, didn't like the weaponshield smell. And I think slip2000 has better lubricity properties...seems to stick to metal really well too
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>>34278469
For these reasons, I think that these synthetic motor oils (not dino oil), especially the diesel formulations, are extremely effective at protecting our rifles.

I come from an automotive engine remanufacturing and machine shop background. I am dumbfounded at the suggestion above that synthetic motor oils so formulated are prone to oxidation or do not provide corrosion protection on steel or aluminum materials used in our rifles. We don't see these issues in engines, not on the cylinder walls, not on the pistons or other lubricated parts, not on bearing surfaces. And I don't see it rifles. Nor do I find any support for the notion that synthetic oils, including the additives, are toxic or hazardous. I have the MSDS for T-6, and can discuss it at length, if anyone wants to read it and ask questions. Google and download it. Read it first to save us some time. I'l give you one hint: The toxicity is low even for human ingestion. I'm not suggesting that anyone swallow it, but it won't hurt you if you do.

I do use Breakfree CLP or some clean up purposes (not lube), but frankly, prefer simple mineral spirits for that.

There are a lot of companies making a killing on selling gun specific snake oil at outrageous prices and profit. None of these are better than high grade synthetic motor oil for lubrication purposes in an AR rifle, and most are decidedly worse. Any that perform at close to the same level are probably almost entirely synthetic oil similar composition and viscosity as Mobil 1 or Rotella T-6.

I refuse to buy into the hype of those high priced gun oils.
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Cosmoline
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>>34278469
>>34278485
Yeah I use Mobil 5w-30 full synthetic and it works great. A quart will last thousands of applications and it's fairly cheap for use in firearms.
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>>34269954
Frog gums up like crazy in the cold
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>>34278469
>>34278485
I think anon knows his shit. I'll be picking up some Mobil 1 soon then. Maybe some Hoppes bore cleaner too.
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Everyone recommending motor oil is a despicable troll. Do not put that crap into your guns unless you want to deal with a sludged up mess every time you shoot.
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>>34269821
Motor oil is not suited for this. A significant percentage is additives designed for internal combustion engines, not gun parts.
Synthetic is a waste of money (for guns, not engines).
IF you had some crap SA rated oil, that would be fine.
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>>34270142
It comes in a variety of sizes now!
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>>34278469
>>34278485

As a lubricant, it works fine. synthetic engine oil, even conventional motor oil, contains anti-wear additives and detergent levels far greater than many gun oils. It offers little to no corrosion protection however, especially in a salty or high sweat environment like CCW without constant application.

> http://www.6mmbr.com/corrosiontest.html
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eJSLPLpF5U

The 'best' gun oils seem consistently to just be low viscosity oils with high solvent properties, and some AW/EP and anti-corrosion additives. Hence Slip 2000, break free, G96 Gun Treatment, etc. being all popular and in common use.

>>34280512
API SA just means 'no additives', Really the thing that seems to keep people going back to mobil 1 is the detergent properties imo. Guns are relatively gentle in terms of lubrication needs anyway, to some degree 'oil is oil' hence why people are able to get away with nearly anything (and do)
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>>34270266
People actually do that?
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>>34269954
Did you forget to read about froglube before you bought it?
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Anyone ever used pic related for rust prevention? Everything I read about it seems pretty good.
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>>34269821
I use grease
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>>34278469

This will be good advice as soon as firearms get lubrication circulation systems like engines, where lube is constantly applied by pumping. Until then it will be too thin to do much protecting since it will mostly be squeezed out or slung off. You need more than a boundary layer to provide the oil bushing. They could be decent corrosion inhibitors since the boundary layer tends to stick around.
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>>34282166
It's okay, some are put off by the smell. The film eventually becomes semi-waxy, but is never really "durable". Using it with a VCI paper is suggested.

If you want "long term in a spray can" as well as a product that is not difficult to source, you want LPS3 and VCI paper or butcher paper for the wrap.
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ATF MD3
Slightly more expensive than motor oil, but stays in place better and is slipperier.
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>>34282233
mah nigga
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What does /k/ think of ultrasonic cleaners?
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It really doesn't matter that much. Guns aren't especially sensitive to changes in lubricant.

I will say this, though: I've got a can of SFL-0 I used to use on sliding parts, but in my experience the topmost layer tends to get covered with fouling and the lubricating properties more or less disappear entirely within a hundred rounds or so until you wipe off that top layer and expose the clean grease underneath.
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>>34269954
Used to use Froglube because it was safe indoors as well, but it made all my guns tacky and caused light primer strikes.

Switched to Mpro7 because it's also non-toxic, and completely odorless unlike Froglube or Ballistol. Not cheap, but it works great with no unwanted side effects.
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>>34282840
I use one with Lyman Turbo Sonic solution.
Works great, the gun comes out bone dry and squeaky clean.
Afterwards, I use a good aerosol that leaves behind a light film of lube on everything - I like Hornady One Shot, a touch of Moly loaded grease on the rails, and a quick squirt of tungsten disulfide dry film into the trigger and sear area.

I do this maybe once every 1000 rounds. Between the deep ultrasonic cleanings, I'll just wipe carbon off of the feed ramp, bolt face, and add a dab of grease to the rails.

Lyman says to use it on steel parts only. Absolutely no Aluminum - it'll corrode aluminum parts. No problems using it on Glock polymer.
If you have aluminum or alloy shit to clean, I know there's a variant of Simple Green that's aluminum safe, that some people swear by.
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WD-40 Specialist LTRP
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>>34270950
>>>34270920
>>that power cord
>ytho
Muh super clean $1000 power cable running to muh $17000 tube amp so muh $12000 turntable can produce better sound than the studio muh records were recorded in
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>>34273211
"This product may contain the following chemicals known to the state of
California to cause cancer, birth defects or other reproductive harm: None"

https://bigcatrescue.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/CRC-White-Lithium-Grease.pdf
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CLP has done fine for me for years

don't be one of those fags that soaks your gun, it cooks off anyway

you really don't need much to keep things moving
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>>34270905
>There's a reason every competitive shooting team in the world uses these two.

Its called sponsorship. Part of marketing

See you as result

What you use simply depends on the gun

i.e gun grease on air rifles and no oils to avoid dieseling

Another on a bp revolver to avoid fouling

Another on a 19th century BP rifle

etc etc

In general any light non penetrating oil. I use clock oils on modern steel guns

I don't buy plastic guns
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>>34283808
>>34283808
>you really don't need much to keep things moving

Truth.....very little is better
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>>34283791
bisley gun grease

Molybdenum disulphide based gun grease.

It is ideally suited for all moving parts on pistols, rifles and sporting guns.

It's high load-bearing characteristics ensure lasting performance whilst being resistant to corrosion and acidic gases.

Probably the must used grease of all gunsmiths

Try it.
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liberal tears
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CLP actual, or aerosol CLP is all i really use. I have some lithium for my M1A as well but can't remember what it's called.
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>>34269853
>/thread
I use Mobile 1
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Anyone ever tried eds red?
I got a can of mineral spirits on sale for a real steal along with a can that has a gas seal. I figure at the very least I can use the mineral spirits as a solvent to start off with then use something else as lube once it dries off just to make my lube stretch longer instead of wasting a bunch of it on cleaning a really stubborn deposit if something else will work more efficiently.
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ALG Brand Purple Drank
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>>34269821
>Ballistol
Where's that pic of the test some anon ran on washers using all different kinds of lube/oil?
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>>34285779
nvm, found it
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>>34269842
>Ballistol
Read the MSDS sheet. Its got water in it. No thanks.
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>>34269821
Wheel bearing grease or LP (it's like CLP without the C).
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>>34269821
>What is the best gun lubricant?
Mobil 1 motor oil and a tube of synthetic red grease. $5 at Walmart and it will last for decades.
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>>34280883
Doubles as a butt plug. Perfect
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>nobody in this thread mentions O-158

This shit has been lubricating since Viet-fucking-Nam, show a little respect
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>>34270266
>ar bcg,
>scar front sight?
wut
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>>34281767
>>34285822
OP asked about lubricants. What are the lubricating properties of these oils?

>I am not paid by any of these lube manufacturers, and bought every lube at full price from a retail establishment, with the exception of Eezox, FP10, and Militec. I received small samples of those products on request." -- Andy from SC.

Why not use something like this if you're worried about corrosion?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0015DOEKI/ref=psdc_15718511_t2_B0000AXYA0

>>34282218
So what's the ideal viscosity for a gun oil in cSt?

>>34284281
>It is ideally suited for all moving parts on pistols, rifles and sporting guns.
http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/291052.pdf
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>>34285822
why didnt they test clp
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>>34288693
Breakfree is CLP
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wd40
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Clp, and pb blaster.
Works great together.
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>>34270718
>but for actual lube purposes I'm a hoppes man for life, nothing beats that sweet banana smell.

are you retarded?
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>>34269853
>>34284740

Same here
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>>34271031
because wd-40 evaporates. its not an oil, its a penetrating/water displacing spray
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