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"I Thought It was Empty"

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>Indiana father charged with daughter’s murder after accidentally shooting her while showing off his gun

Why did he do it??
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>>34269006
Retards with bad muzzle safety and no trigger discipline. I hope he gets fucked in prison just for being a dumbass
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>I thought it was empty
>ever thinking a gun is empty even after double checking
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>>34269006
it was empty though. i swear i double checked
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>>34269006
I'm not sure if you want to go to the point of the local human being and I will be there gassed
I'm not getting the same time tomorrow to see if I didn't get the guy whoIf
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>>34269112
Has anyone been far as to do want look more like?
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>>34269006
>Hummel continued: “I was showing the boys the gun and told them not to ever play with it because it can kill someone. Then she walked in the room and I pointed it at her and pulled the trigger, thinking it was empty.”

The guy is a fucking idiot but I can't imagine what he's going through. Killed his daughter because he's a moron, that's pretty tough.
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>>34269163
So he did literally the exact same thing he warned his sons not to do five seconds earlier?
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He made a few mistakes. He should have shot the boys and then himself to save the world from his retarded chromosomes and forgo the costs of the trial.
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>>34269006
>"Fuck the four rules"-fags BTFO
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"I thought it was empty" is basically "I lost it in a boating accident" except it actually works all the time because of the naive ignorance and stupidity of normies and libtards. Just consider the sheer absurdity of loading a gun, chambering a round, pointing it at someone, and pulling the trigger, and then claiming you did all that completely by accident. Sure it happens sometimes with the stupidest of the stupid, sure, but 90% of these "accidental" shootings are people who got sick of their wife or kid and decided to shoot them, because they know they can get away with at most a manslaughter charge. It pisses me the fuck off and all of these people should be shot.
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>thinking ANY gun is empty
>pointing it at your daughter and pulling the trigger

hopefully convicted
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>>34269163
Oh shit. That is the most retarded thing I've ever heard. I would be mad if I wasn't so shocked at the magnitude of the stupidity.
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>>34269409
This.
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>>34269414
I was honestly feeling really bad for the guy and putting myself in his place until I saw that on the article. Now it's just enraging.
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>>34269068
>only double checking

heh, I always triple check
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>hummel
Is this the hummel i think it is because i wouldn't be surprised if it was
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How much do you want to bet he ejected the magazine and forgot to check the chamber?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzHEOSyMqug
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>>34269006
I'd need to know more. Is it murder and not involuntary manslaughter?

I mean to say he accidentally shot her seems to be the definition of involuntary manslaughter. So why the murder charge? And honestly if it was accidental a year or two would be enough. Guy lost his daughter and he'll go to sleep and wake up every day knowing it was cause he was an idiot. That's almost more than enough punishment as it stands.
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>>34270111
>That's almost more than enough punishment as it stands
No it's not.
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>>34269006
Blatant disregard of multiple safety rules gets you what's coming to you.

The only sad aspect here is that his innocent daughter died rather than his own dumb ass.
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>>34270088
How much do you want to bet he thought he was being real fucking slick by racking the slide THEN dropping the magazine out.
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>>34269034
No. Retards that don't check their guns.
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>>34269006

So this means that he did several things that we all know you should never do.

>Assume the gun is empty
>Point it directly at another human being
>Put his finger on the trigger while its pointed at someone
>Pulled the trigger while it's pointed at someone

Fuckin retard belongs in jail, those are all things that pretty much everyone fucking knows not to do.
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>>34269006
omg hes a sick monster give me 5 minutes with razzer blades and lemon juice any1 who could hurt a precius innocent angel should be killed in the wurst way possibal
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>>34270163
You would have to be a complete moron with no understanding of the weapon you purchased to do this. People like this are why mandatory firearms training classes are still a thing.
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>>34270204
>defending criminal levels of irresponsibility
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>>34269410
He's probably going to get charged with manslaughter.
That was gross negligence.
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>>34270247
yes anyone who defend this monster should get there fucking ass kicked to
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>Indiana is relevant again

YES!
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>>34269006
>ever pointing a gun at a human being
>let alone a child
This guy is too stupid to live
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>>34270255
People have been charged with murder for letting their kids roast to death in their car while they fuck off to drink for a couple hours.
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>>34269006
I think we should implement a gun law so this kind of accident never happens again
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>Americans think it's okay to point a gun at their daughters and pull the trigger ever

l-- lol?
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I'm thinking the solution to these matters would be something like this

>make failure to follow the four rules with a handgun an automatic charge for felony reckless endangerment
>people who kill somebody because they didn't follow the four rules are now guilty of felony murder
>felony murder of a child is a capital offense
>bring back the firing squad for a capital offense

I need one of you to call me a stupid homo, and then tell me is this is a bad idea.
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>>34270347
I'd be okay with this. Extreme measures for fast results
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>>34270347
Why stop at handguns?
A rifle or shotgun wielded by a fucking retard will still kill someone sooner or later.
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>>34270347
>>make failure to follow the four rules with a handgun an automatic charge for felony reckless endangerment
yeah thats a thing in almost every country thats not america
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>>34270384
Because I don't pay attention to my wording.
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>>34270347
>bring back the firing squad for a capital offense

Hell, I'll raise you one further and say that the firing squad should be the de facto execution method for 1st degree murder and up.

Electric chairs and hangings are barbaric, but lethal injection doesn't the 'Oh shit, I don't want that happening to me' effect. Firing squads, meanwhile, provide fairly quick deaths but are still terrifying and extremely painful.
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>>34269006

The guilt over the results of his stupidity is probably be worse than any punishment the courts can inflict.
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>>34269006
OMG HE KILLED HIS DAUGHTER WITH A GUN!!! THIS IS WHY WE NEED TO HAVE A GUN BAN ON DEADLY ASSAULT RIFLES!!!
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>>34270607
hes a yankee so he probably doesnt give a fuck that he murdered his child
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T H E T R E E O F L I B E R T Y M U S T B E R E F R E S H E D F R O M T I M E T O T I M E W I T H T H E B L O O D O F P A T R I O T S A N D T Y R A N T S
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>>34270657
So was the girl a tyrant or a patriot?
My guess is tyrant.
Freedom has been secured.
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>>34270675
GOD


BLESS


AMERICA
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Imagine being one of his sons.

It's summer, Dad takes you and your brother together to his room to show you something important: guns. He goes over the rules of safety, the importance of firearms and promises to take you shooting when you're older. In walks your sister, and your dad decides to point the pistol at her and pull the trigger, to make a point on how dangerous firearms can be at the end of the day. Turns out it was loaded, and now your dad just killed your sister.

Man, that's one hell of an example
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>>34269006
Wait a minute...
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americans are literally incapable of being safe with firearms
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>>34269006
>accidentally shooting
>Why did he do it??

Do you understand what the word "motive" means?
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>>34269006
>Had a friend who had a "practice" airsoft pistol gun to prepare for the real thing
>Pointed it at me and pulled the trigger
>Said it was a joke
>My life is a joke to you?
I don't hang out with him anymore. Treat your tools like its the real thing if its practice. He also went off about how there was no """CLIP""" (mag) in the gun so it couldn't have shot anything even if he pulled the trigger.
>He doesn't know the concept of one in the chamber
>Claims he's getting all his education from the internet
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Lax gun laws are the ONLY thing this state has going for it. He was doing her a favor.
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>>34270347
fuck off stupid homo that's a bad idea

tards gonna tard giving the gubment an excuse to excercise tyranny won't help
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>>34269163
I mean... his sons will remember that. So is he an idiot?
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>>34270723

that depressed tradoc 74D NCO though
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>>34270834

also lol they made you wear helmets in the gas chamber
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>>34269006
>Implying he did it accidentally
>Implying he didn't intentionally shoot his daughter for some fucking stupid reason and tried to get a lesser sentence by pretending it was an ND
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>>34270565
>Electric chairs and hangings are barbaric
Yes, and?
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>>34269006
If we lived in samurai times, this would be a cause for seppuku if i ever saw one.
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>>34269409
>all of these people should be shot.
Accidentally
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>>34269163
I hope he kills himself
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>>34269006
>Cop deliberately shoots unarmed guy in neck after car crash on video for 0 fucking reason, then lies about it
>Involuntary manslaughter, 90 days in prison

>Dude accidentally shoots someone
>Reckless homicide, neglect of a child resulting in death, battery resulting in death and two counts of child neglect.

What the fuck is wrong with America?

Throwing idiots in jail doesn't make people any smarter, Jesus fucking Christ. The guy shot his daughter in the head. He's more upset about it than you are. What the fuck is wrong with Americans? Who takes satisfaction in seeing a man destroyed like this? It's sadistic and cruel. Jesus Christ.
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>>34270949
>implyign being a barbarian is good
Don't you have some women to be raping, Habib?
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>>34271856
>Throwing idiots in jail doesn't make people any smarter
it keeps them off the streets, making them unable to hurt other people
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>>34270224
Unfortunately, what the guy you replied to said is extremely common. I know quite a few people who have done this before
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>>34270746
Does cowadoody or battlefield have a chambered round mechanic? If they don't thats probably why he didn't know 2bh
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>>34269006
Eh, his daughter probably just said that she thought the nigger down the street looked cute and he needed a convenient alibi for the ensuing honor killing.
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>>34271903
I highly doubt this guy winds up doing a day in jail past time served.

He'll be out to give his sons more gun safety lessons
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>>34269163
10/10 He taught his boys a lesson they will never forget.
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>>34270003
Trips of truth
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>>34271869
To fight evil, you must be worse.
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>>34269006
>>34269163
This.

The guy is a fucking dumbass, but what he's going through must be fucking horrible. Especially when everyone who calls him a dumbass for killing his daughter is right. I definitely feel a sympathy, but he fucked up.
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>>34272400
>what hes going through
probably coffin brochures desu
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>>34269163
>those details
If it had been me and there'd been another bullet it in the gun I'd have turned it on myself legit.
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>Willingly points at daughter
>Pulls trigger on purpose

Whether he thought it was empty or not he's an idiot and fully deserves going to prison. The ONLY reason to point a gun at somebody and pull the trigger is to kill them. If that isn't your goal then you don't fucking do it.
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>>34269163

"Now boys, don't chu eva do this!" *BANG*"

What a good lesson.
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>>34270607
no he's an blatant idiot. he cant understand or experience real and total guilt the way a normal person would.
like the doctor who crawled away while his wife and children were raped and beaten to death while he listened to their screams.
Then he promptly turned around, got married again and started a new family and look happy and carefree as could be.
No, these type of people need to be made to feel real pain and suffering in other ways.
We cannot rely on them to feel guilty or sad. we need to *Make them feel real pain and suffering.
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>>34269163
Well he made his point, i dont think any of them will ever forget that, its the sort of thing you off yourself over
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>>34270347

How would making it illegal help if normies don't know gun laws let alone common safety practices?
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>>34270746

Airsoft guns are meant to shoot people for fun fucking autist.

>Hurr Durr, don't point your paintball gun at people

You sound like you're the type of guy who tries to make firearms as little fun as possible and patrols YouTube to bitch about gun safety. I bet you keep your guns in a separate safe from your ammo and they only get touched once a year for a hunting season too.
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>>34269163
>those boys will now be unable to have some gangbang wincest their sister now

What an awful father
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>>34270565
>barbaric
You mean like blasting a little girl with a 9mm IN THE HEAD from 2 feet away unexpectedly in the middle of her house in front of young, impressionable boys? Punishment fits the crime of literally executing your 9 year old daughter in front of your sons.
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>>34270260
I want to be irrelevant though
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>>34269163
WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU POINT A GUN AT YOUR OWN DAUGHTER EVEN IF YOU "THOUGHT IT WAS EMPTY"?! WHAT POSSIBLE GOOD COULD COME FROM THAT?!
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>>34269163
>“I was showing the boys the gun and told them not to ever play with it because it can kill someone. Then she walked in the room and I pointed it at her and pulled the trigger, thinking it was empty.”
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>>34269163
>>Hummel continued: “I was showing the boys the gun and told them not to ever play with it because it can kill someone. Then she walked in the room and I pointed it at her and pulled the trigger, thinking it was empty.”
>told them not to ever play with it because it can kill someone
>she walked in the room and I pointed it at her and pulled the trigger, thinking it was empty
>told them not to ever play with it
>I pointed it at her and pulled the trigger

>>34269006
I'm not going to sympathize with this stupid piece of trash for one second.

I don't care what he's going through, I don't care if he didn't "mean to". He INTENTIONALLY pointed a gun at his own daughter, and INTENTIONALLY pulled the trigger.

He's EXACTLY the kind of person who needs to go down for murder. Fuck him.
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>>34272400
>I definitely feel a sympathy
How about you start feeling sympathy for his dead daughter rather than the piece of shit that killed her?
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>>34271856
THE POLICE WAS A GOOD BOY, HE DINDU NUFFINS
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>>34273329
S H A L L
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>>34273431
i wouldnt say he is a piece of shit, I mean the guy was trying to teach his kids gun safety.


He's a moron yeah. a fucking retard even. But he's no piece of shit in my book.

A piece of shit is the guy that means to kill her. or someone that kills an old lady over her purse. Or the mother fucker that was running the neighborhood crack house. Not someone that fucked up trying to do a legitimate good in the world.
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>>34269006
She was probably fucking niggers or something.
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>>34273512
yeah its really good to shoot your daughter in the fucking face like the whoreslut she is
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>>34270111
>>I mean to say he accidentally shot her seems to be the definition of involuntary manslaughter. So why the murder charge?
It wasn't an accident. You'd need to be a brainlet to believe otherwise.
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>>34270565
>hangings are barbaric
That's a dumb opinion.
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>>34270890
Yeah, I kinda have to wonder how cute his daughter was and whether he was sexing her. If he was, and if he realized she's getting older and more independent and more likely to talk about his abuses... maybe 'accidentally' shooting her and serving a couple of years is a better result for him than having her talk and getting five years or more as a pedo.
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>>34273569
He didnt do it intentionally

this is someone that just made a grave mistake he will never make again.
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>>34273612
>>He didnt do it intentionally
Horseshit.
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>>34269163
arrested development got a little dark
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>>34273618
Let me rephrase.

He intentionally pulled the trigger. But had no intention of killing his daughter.

He broke one of the 4 main gun safety rules. But does that make him a piece of shit? No, it makes him a fucking retard.
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>>34273604
Looked it up. Yup, Olivia is a loli and he's plainly fond of her in the pic from the news, pulling her close. Culpable homicide with suppression of evidence of molestation being the motive.
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>>34273690
>But had no intention of killing his daughter.
Horseshit.
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>>34269163
Yeah but i bet the boys never point a gun at anyone. Mission accomplished
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>>34273728
His having pulled the trigger maybe twice while pointing the gun at one if his sons is just partnof his cover. He made damned sure it wasn't loaded for that little demo, part of building his 'I'm just a stupid man' alibi. Slipping in a live round before doing it again with his daughter then claiming to have forgotten it was loaded is the weak link, but he's gambling that it's his best bet to escape child rape charges. His sons will eventually at least partially forgive him, unless they suicide.
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http://nypost.com/2017/06/13/dad-says-he-fatally-shot-daughter-while-teaching-gun-safety/
>One boy said Hummel pointed it at him up to three times and that the gun made a “little pop sound,” according to the affidavit. Hummel then pulled the top of the gun back and forgot that he “put the bullets back in” when he “shot our sister,” one boy told police.
Definitely murder.
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>>34269006
>>34269068
>>34270003
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>>34270111
His statement claims that he intentionally aimed at her and pulled the trigger. There's a case there for a second degree murder charge. Then he'll settle for manslaughter.
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>>34269163
I literally can not believe this is true. Loaded or not anyone who has any experience around firearms knows having one pointed at you loaded or not is uncomfortable as fuck. Who would think to point one at their own daughter even jokingly? Seriously what the fuck.
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>>34273701
Wellp. There we have it. Alert the police. Take his ass back to trial.
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>>34273512
>But he's no piece of shit in my book.

He pointed a gun at his own flesh and blood.

And pulled the trigger.
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>>34273966
Exactly. I get a fear just holding a gun near my kid. A good fear, like I remember that I must be very careful, always, or risk losing my son or him losing a father if I do some stupid shit with a gun, so I be very, very careful, always. This bag of shit murdered his child.
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>>34270347
The first one is not enforceable in any meaningful capacity, and the other three are just redundant/arbitrary.
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>>34270746
I put a hole in my monitor with a cheap airsoft gun because I forgot about one in the chamber. Taught me my lesson
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>>34269006
>Dangerous, abusive father threatens family member with gun for umpteenth time
>Actually pulls the trigger
>Makes up story
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>>34273329
It's an epic prank bro.
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>>34269006

>Why did he do it??
It's obvious, he shot her.
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>>34269006
why dont people check?

racking the slide back is half the fun of owning a gun.
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>>34269163
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>>34269163

Good man. Desensitized the boys incase they ever have to kill some one, they will not be bitches about it.
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>>34274404
Nope, failed logic. Dad's being a little bitch about it.
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>>34269163
>"Then she walked in the room and I pointed it at her and pulled the trigger, thinking it was empty.”
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>>34271856
>The guy shot his daughter in the head. He's more upset about it than you are.
>t. guy who has no idea how buttblasted /k/ can get over muh 4 rules
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>>34272211
>>>34270003
>Trips of truth
>0003
>trips

lurk moar
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>>34269163
sweet tap dancing christ i am seething with anger
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>>34273701
>Yup, Olivia is a loli
was
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>>34269006
its absolutely 100% his fault but man i feel bad for him. He killed his own kid (and in front of his other kids). Thats some heavy lifelong trauma shit. The lives of that whole family is pretty much ruined. Really sad shit
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>>34273604
So if it were legal to diddle your daughter she'd be alive today. Unintended consequences.
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>>34269163
I bet they learned that lesson though
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>>34274509
I had a guilty laugh
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>>34269112
Are you okay
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>>34274627
Sort if. I think it's closer to that he was awful to her. Kiddie fiddling doesn't have to be damaging... though mostly it is, because most guys are assholes.
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>>34274592
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>>34274736
>Kiddie fiddling doesn't have to be damaging
Kys Muhammed
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>>34274749
Did you ever tell the cops about what your uncle did to you?
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>>34273690
Yeah just like a drunk that goes driving and wipes out into someone at an intersection at 50mph. Doesn't fucking matter, his stupid decisions led to the death of an innocent human being. He is as guilty as he would be had he murdered her in cold blood. NO sympathy for that piece of shit.
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>>34269163
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>>34274575
don't go projecting yourself onto this idiot.
the guys a Grade AAA fucking retard who wasn't responsible/intelligent enough to handle a firearm, let alone have children.

Don't go thinking his heart/brain functions well enough to feel the appropriate levels of guilt.

anybody with common sense would know or at least "feel" how wrong it is to point a real firearm at a child and then actually have the idiocy and carelessness to pull the fucking trigger.
"i thought it was empty"
fucking bullshit.

this asshole deserves nothing less than the absolute worst kind of torturous death imaginable
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>>34274646
> bet they learned that lesson though
yeah, lesson they learned is dads a fucktard that cant be trusted,.. oh, and guns kill people. they probably already knew about that part
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>>34269006
>1 shot stop

9mm wins again
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>>34269006
>>34269163
Eh not really a big loss. It was a daughter not like his sons died. That would've sucked.
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>>34269163
>killing your daughter in order to teach your sons gun safety.

D E D I C A T I O N
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>>34269163
Reminds me of a dumbass SEAL that died in San Diego.

>be SEAL gf
>go home with SEAL bf
>see pistol on his night stand
>freak out cuz Cali-cunt
>SEAL bro calms her down and grabs pistol
>lol it isn't loaded
>puts pistol to head
>pulls trigger
>fucking blows head off

Even SEALs aren't immune to such stupidity.
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>>34270172
>Retards that don't check their guns
Doesn't matter how many times you "check" it.
It's always loaded.
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>>34269006
while the guy was an idiot who deserves everything bad coming to him

how is this murder?
Manslaughter, sure but doesn't murder require the intend to kill?
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This happened 20 minutes away from me. Northwest Indiana is home to some of the most subhuman white trash imaginable.

Hope he gets BBQ'd by one of the electric chairs Pence used to convert gays.
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>>34269006
>"I Thought It was Empty"
No an excuse...enjoy the prison time...Sadly should not have even pointed it at anyone.
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>>34274852
He did, and it ruined his uncles life. Keep your fucking hands of kids mudslime.
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>>34271856
>Throwing idiots in jail doesn't make people any smarter
No, but the ones that are above room temperature IQ might learn from his mistake and decide not to be fucking retarded around guns.
I know it's a long shot but whatever.

>He's more upset about it than you are.
Doesn't somehow make him less guilty of a number of negligence crimes.
If we stopped putting people in jail because "they suffered the most themselves" no one that harmed or killed a loved one out of negligence or simple stupidity would ever be convicted again.
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>>34270172
why can't it be both? there is no reason to point a gun at your daughter no matter what state you believe it to be in.
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>>34273701
you just KNOW
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>Hummel
Wait a minute...
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>>34270347
making the four rules a law is a bad idea

I do drills and whatnot with my buddies all the time, part of these means we sometimes have to muzzle sweep eachother. I'm imagining some cop walking up to us red in the face and giving us all felonies, which means we'd never be allowed to own guns again.

basically, you're a retard. this is some anti-gun tier shit from emotion.
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>>34276870
>might learn from his mistake
If blowing his daughter's brains out didn't teach him than prison's not going to do fucking shit
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>>34269163
Wait, what
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>>34276993
Yup, pretty much. I mean even without his having blasted her in the brain, the odds that a dad is diddling his daughter are about one in five. So not a long shot. Add in the way he set this up with dry firing at his sons, it almost seems a gimme.
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>>34269006
Can you imagine how horrible this would be? To accidentally kill your own daughter? Jesus Christ. I'd 100% for sure suicide.
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>>34276514
Don't forget the soldier who accidentally shot his girlfriend in the back of the head when he pulled the trigger thinking it was empty
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>>34277456
Plus, its Indiana.
There's nothing else to do there except drink and fuck your underage daughter.
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>>34276731
Convert them into what?
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>>34277660
Boyfriends, probably. Isn't Pence a closet case in denial?
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>>34277357
Putting him in prison would make him lose custody of his children, and unable to own firearms.

Neither of these would be bad.
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>>34277675
Duh, everyone that isn't a homosexual is a projecting closet case.
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>>34269163
This is like a fucking Onion article.

>Hummel was so commited to gun safety and teaching his sons the responsibility, he shot his own daughter to show them what accidental gun deaths looked like.
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>>34277726
That might be a slight exaggeration. I had a guy bugging me to suck my dick for years and even though I was usually single and lonely and desperate it never occurred to me to let him. I mean... why would I? Some dude's lips on my dick? No thanks. I can see how a lot of guys are bi or whatever, but so far that just doesn't seem to be me. Maybe I just haven't met the right fag yet...
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>>34273305
why does a 9mm headshot kill but not a 7.62x39? is the >only 9mm meme that ret
arded?
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>>34269163
This is some fucking cartoon villain shit.
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>>34269006
>>34269184
>>34270721
>Imagine being one of his sons.
According to nwitimes.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/attorney-hobart-father-plans-not-guilty-plea-in-daughter-s/article_ae7b7248-3541-576d-bf89-ceb7b9f2cca5.html

>The boys told police their father had aimed the weapon at one of the boys and pulled the trigger more than once, prompting one of the boys to run from him. They said they heard a popping noise when Hummel pulled the trigger, so they believed the gun was unloaded.

This guy is a huge piece of shit.
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>>34278389
>Olivia’s two brothers told officers at the home that they believed their father forgot he had put the bullets back in the gun when he pointed it at Olivia and inadvertently shot her in the head, according to an affidavit.
what the fuck is wrong with this guy. this is basically murder. im starting to wonder if his story is complete bullshit to begin with, though i also have to wonder why he would even want to kill his 9 year old daughter.
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>>34278514
>> i also have to wonder why he would even want to kill his 9 year old daughter
I mentioned my theory above
>>34273771
>>
What is the safest order for like, presenting that a handgun is empty?

Let's assume safety locks the slide, would it be
>Finger off of trigger
>Point gun in safe direction
>Safety off
>Open slide, check receiver, check chamber
>Check and remove magazine
>Close slide
>Safety on
Or is there a safer procedure?
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>>34276690
I'd imagine the prosecutor will argue that the circumstances suggest there was an intent to kill.

He was in the middle of giving a gun safety lecture about never pointing a gun at someone you don't intend to shoot, and then he pointed a gun at someone and shot them.
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>>34278818
minor glitches in your order. Try this:

>>finger off trigger
>>point in safe direction
>>safety on (or ignore safety - I don't trust them, ever)
>>remove magazine
>>open slide, ejecting loaded round
>>check chamber
>>close slide

Unless you are blind, this should be sufficient.
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>>34269163
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http://wgme.com/news/local/corrections-officer-shoots-another-corrections-officer-in-vassalboro-police-say
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>>34278859
This is correct. I don't ever put an empty mag into a gun, ever. I don't ever put a loaded mag into a gun and say it's unloaded, ever. You want to pass someone or show them a gun, you remove mag, you clear barrel, you show cleared barrel, the gun is now empty. This is how you should do it every time.
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>>34269163
Whats a lesson without any examples?
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>>34278670
I think we all agree there is foul play here. I wonder if lobbyists will pressure the judge to give him the manslaughter charge so it can be a victory for gun control. That's my fear.
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>>34279316
The real issue is whether a prosecutor can convince a jury that it was, beyond a reasonable doubt, intentional.

If they don't think they can, they aren't going to spend six figures on a murder trial when they can get him for negligent homicide on a plea bargain.
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>>34279343
At least he's losing his kids, wife, and ability to own a gun either way -- not that I think felons losing rights is okay, but no matter what happens nothing like this will happen with him again.
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>>34276690
>doesn't murder require the intend to kill?
Pointing a gun at someone and pulling the trigger does show intent to kill.
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>>34270260
Indianapolis here. That guy is most likely a fudd and had twelve Budweiser's in his gut at the time of the accident.
>Hobart IN.
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>>34270288
>I think we should implement a gun law so this kind of accident never happens again

Like a law that you can't point a gun at someone unless it's in self defense! Brilliant!
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>>34270282
>>34270296
>>34270347
As someone who is 100% American I would have to agree this guy should be guilty of felony murder
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Any burgers want to explain how you can accidentally insert a loaded magazine, rack the slide, point it at your daughter's head and pull the trigger?
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>>34282451
That's the joke.
You can't.
This was intentional.
Especially when he was doing it to his boys a few minutes earlier and it actually was unloaded.

The question is why he killed his daughter, and the only feasible reason that he would go out of his way to kill his daughter and not his sons probably involves molestation.
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>>34271856

anon you don't understand the policeman FELT scared.

Police feels matter more than ours.
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>>34276866
> your fucking hands of kids
I don't have any hands of kids you weirdo.
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>>34274592
I audibly laughed at this
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>Gun safety is important, kids. I'll demonstrate what happens if you don't follow the rules of gun safety
>shoots daughter
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>>34269163
Imagine being the daughter in this situation
>hey guys whats going on in he-
>BANG
>*'hide and seek' plays as you fall to the ground*

>>34275706
Muslim father pls go
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>>34285324
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdlDvwFe3o0

I'm picturing it being like this
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>>34269184
On the bright side; that is a good lesson in gun safety the surviving kids won't soon forget.
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>>34270129
Why not? They are your children. You should be able to do what you want with them. Saying a man can't kill his daughter is pretty islamiphobic, you are probably some bigoted racist from the south. It's 2017 you fucking shitlord.
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>>34269137
>>34269112
Either my reading comp is shit or these two had a fucking stroke and someone needs to call an ambulance
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>>34285613
Don't be a pre-Madonna.
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>>34277758
It's only gay if you are giving head buddy.... At least that is what i tell myself
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>>34269163
>>Then she walked in the room and I pointed it at her and pulled the trigger, thinking it was empty.”
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>>34269006
>while showing off his gun
WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK DID HE FUCKING DO?

DO YOU FUCKING SHOW OFF A GUN BY POINTING IT TO SOMEONE AND PULLING THE TRIGGER???

DUUDE
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>>34271856
MUH BLUE BACKED
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>>34274592
>deadass
lol, you motherfucker
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>>34277660
one of the two genders
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>>34277125
shouldn't surprise anyone; none of the nanny-state leftist shitters ever post on /k/ unless there's an article about an accidental shooting they can harp on and get 200 replies with. you won't see their crap in most of the other threads.
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>>34278818
>>34278859
visually inspect the chamber and then pinky-check it. doesn't matter if you close the slide again and if you mean to present that it isn't loaded, no, you don't do that, and since you have a slide locked open, an empty chamber, and no magazine in the gun then you don't care about the state of the safety selector if there even is one.

all guns are always loaded, but this one is now unloaded -- until your attention leaves the gun for something else. then it is loaded again. even if you didn't put it down.
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>>34277660
BBQ. Didn't you his post?
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>>34285686
Nah, getting head from a guy is still gay.
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