Renno FT

>>34268752
No.
>sage

>>34268804
She's a good lass

>>34268831
Not an argument.
>sage

>>34268844
Do you love Renault FT?

A pickup mounted with a 50 cal would shred the thing. So no.

>>34268752
Only if it fires 37mm Hon Hon "Cheese" Rounds.

>>34268831

UUUU

>>34269015
No, like most French built vehicles its garbage.

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>>34268752
She could probably find a little lease of life lobbing shells at positions in Syria, but she's well past her prime. She deserves her well earned retirement.

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Nope, too slow and less armor than a humvee. Only possible use is against literally spear-chucking savages. Otherwise it belongs in a museum.

>>34268752
FT-chan is cute! CUTE!

>>34268752
Urban Pacification?

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>>34268752

Yes given that these things are still rolling around, but there are better versions of the FT that improve the suspension so they run significantly faster like the NC1 tracks.

For developed nations, the Wiesel 2 does everything the FT does better.

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>>34268752
Riot control maybe?

>>34268752
Maybe

>>34270094
>yfw not made by renault

>>34270830

Does it really though? I heard the Wiesel 2's armor is pretty thin, like Panzer I thin. In fact, the Wiesel is a lot like a Panzer I redesigned to fit in a helicopter.

>>34268752
You could use it to bully people who only have small-arms and have no anti-armour capability whatsoever, but that's it. You could probably destroy it fairly easily with just the contents of your liquor cabinet.

>>34271586
Well but the wiesel 2 is fast as hell compared to this pile of junk.
So it would most likely never be hit.
Also, the wiesel can be outfitted with either a heavy MG or a ATGM and both would shred that thing into pieces.
Also the wiesel can engage from a much much lofer distance and thus wouldn't even be in a dangerous proximity to it.

Honestly a wiesel is a serious threat to all modern MBTs because of it's speed, ATGM and swiftness.

>>34268752
This is entirely situational and depends entirely on what the enemy is using.

>>34268752
Umm...no. Its pretty shit, but if it was available in a riot it would be better than nothing.

If we were forced to use it? Rip out the engine and shove in a chevy 5.3liter truck engine with a turbo or super on it. Replace the main gun with a squad automatic grenade launcher. Layer over some extra armor and call it a night.

>>34271628
>You could use it to bully people who only have small-arms
and hope the bullet splash doesn't maim or blind you

>>34271670
Why not just give it a new tank engine

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>>34271683
Dw I got u famalam, you got a leather jacket?

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>>34271744

possibly because new tank engines are large, really expensive, and can't easily be ordered as a crate motor. That being said, I doubt the suspension and the rest of the drivetrain could withstand the additional horsepower, given the original engine only put out like 18 horsepower and a few dozen ft-lbs of torque.

>>34268752
No, and its spelled Renault

>>34271586

Armor thickness is secondary to what weapons are being used at the moment that can penetrate them, and while the the FT is more likely to survive a direct hit from a .50 cal than the Wiesel, every other weapon used today that can destroy one would destroy the other. It's why the majority of tanks in the interwar period as well as amphibious and air-droppable tanks had a standardized armor thickness of 10-14 mm from the Vickers 6 ton to the T-26 to the M1 Combat Car to the Tetrach to the Wiesel today; that was determined to be the most cost effective thickness for keeping a tank bulletproof while minimizing the weight because the engines they used had poor horsepower, and in the case of the Tetrarch and Wiesel they need to be light to make them air transportable.

>>34271586
The Wiesel is just the embodiment of the Germans' complex about the fact that despite how much they love panzers, their engineering and science and how long they've been trying, the Russians built something much more like a tank that can be dropped out of a plane, long before they could figure it out

>>34269489
Hol up. Is that Wilhelm II?

>>34268752
sadly no, thin armor so modern high power rifles can get through with armor piercing, but thanks for the tank porn

>>34271638
>speed, ATGM, and swiftness
So, you think it is fast, eh?

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>>34268752
>>34270148
I prefer my tanks THICC

>>34268752
No. Why would you think that?

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>be frenchman driving a WW1 tank in Syria
>you get bracketed by smoke rounds from a mortar tube
>"ella baguette what the hecke"
>loud grunts outside
>you stick your head out to see 20 syrians pushing your tank over on it's side
>they roll you over
>your face when a bunch of sand dindus disabled your vehicle by pushing it on it's side and you can't do anything about it

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>>34272540
>be frenchman driving a WW1 tank in Syria
>Got hit by sniper
>Tank blows up into pieces

>>34272332
There is no need for a tank to be this thicc.

>>34271774
have had a bomber jacket since like 7th grade, my man

>>34272774

t. low test beta faggot

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>>34272332

>>34272237
Yeah man, animals can tell good people when they see them

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>>34272332
>>34272774
We need to go thiccer

>>34274480
Wew

>>34268752
You could use it as a mobility scooter I suppose.

>>34273844
I don't trust anyone who's popular with ducks.

>>34271670
What the fuck is a squad automatic grenade launcher?

>>34271628
there were places in the armor where 8mm Mauser could punch through with steel penetrators.

This shit is on wikipedia lad.

Given modern ballistics you could rattle if not kill one with a 249 (a platoon has two of these) and certainly kill it with a 240B

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>>34277542

>>34279193
up-armor it then, make like the slavs and cover it in meme bricks.

>>34279291
why not just uparmor a truck?

>>34279446
because a truck isn't a qt-char

>>34279486
At least you're honest it's just a waifu.

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>>34279202

breddy gud

>>34279193
Screw the 249 and 240. M203 with HEDP rounds says screw your century old technology.

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>>34271628
>1000 hours in Paint

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>>34268752
...what if...now here me out...what if we took the entire schematic of the FT, and scaled it up about...hmm...

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>>34279843
hold the phone...ive got an idea.

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>>34279855
The original blueprints for the Renault FT were simply scaled 385% of its original dimensions. Gentlemen, we give you the FT2017, sporting a 142 millimeter cannon.

>>34280192
Kek

>>34280192
will this be the main boss in Death Stranding?

>>34279291
meme bricks only work when the armor its over is thick enough not to be blown in by the 'splosion

>>34279776
lel 10/10, would pay $1 for more

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>>34280192

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Maybe if you automated them like it was originally intended. Imagine infantry platoons, only instead of infantry each individual is a self-operating tank!

>>34268752
Would be neat if you could get it inside a building. Imagine being the first man to turn a corner and be face to face with this.

FT is clearly too old, its armor is paper thin and it would die the first time it met a .50 machinegun

But what about WWII shit? Could that still have a place? Syria apparently still fields a few T34's

>>34271777
>>34271744
Given the size and weight of the thing, it'd be possible to give it a civilian car engine, or even two small ones, one per track... but then the transmission would be all kinds of fucked, I don't know if the damn thing can go faster than 7 kph withoug dying.

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>>34281514

Arguably even more primitive AFVs like this regularly show up in the Middle East with equal or worse protection and have reportedly managed to capture villages and towns, so I think you're underestimating the old horse's capabilities, but WWII era tanks are still able to pull their weight at times: they're an even match against BMP-type IFVs and can of course crunch infantry so long as they lack AT weapons.

Really, to use the FT to its full potential, you would need modern military intelligence to make sure they only fought against targets that lacked the weapons to threaten its. Its biggest fault is its low speed which hampers its ability to respond on a tactical level, no matter what weapons it had.

>>34280192
We'll have to engineer Giant Men to crew these new generation Big FTs

>>34280192
That's a big tank

>>34281555
>reportedly managed to capture villages and towns,
I don't doubt it, but using the Restrepo documentary as a source, some little bumfuck outpost at platoon strength was too strong for local taliban to seize. They were attacked even when the hescos weren't filled, something like
>shoot for bit
>shovel
>shoot for a bit

You have to remember that these guys are basically untrained, poorly equipped, and 90% incompetent. Something like Restrepo could have been threatened by a platoon of WWII-era Germans provided they had a mortar team, but unit tactics and cohesion are nonexistent in that region.

Small wonder that in Libya, 20 guys with an armored car could take over population centers x10 their number.

>>34280192

That's genius! But, how are you going to start the engine? With a 385% scaled crank?

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Tigers aren't even good today ....

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Post obscure FT variants.

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>>34286991

>>34286991
is that the actual size

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>>34286991

>>34281198
...and thus, the true origin of the Dalek was revealed!

>>34281951
We will use an elaborate system of pulleys and an internal para scope to look out of the viewing slit. Interteam radio communication will allow the 5 man driver team to assist the 12 man gunner team with internal loading gantry.
>>34283950
Yes. What part of 385% scale did you not understand? Do you think Renault is made of money, that we can simply....commit to a magical retrofit on such technology? Hon! I laugh in your face again! Hon hon! Now go get the truck, we need to attach a chain to the crank to pull start this machine!

>>34269334
>37mm depleted cheese sabot

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>>34280192

In an alternate universe, armies decided to imrove their weapons not by making them more complex or efficient, but by making them larger. Military might is judged by who has the largest scale FTs, and the superpowers have carrier-sized machines capable of crushing cities under their threads. The only thing that gets more sophisticated are the logistics lines needed to support these ever escalating behemoths.

>>34281198


>using vinyl records to act as hard discs for a WWI tank


god I can't get any fucking harder someone fucking choke me out

>>34274480
Extra thicc

With modern engines armour and ballistics, making a renault clone woult be super qt

Hell, even just throwing a 350 small block in an original renault gets my peepee hard

>>34292318
Original Renny FT had 5 hp/tonne

At 7 tonnes thats a paltry 35 hp engine

The 350 smallblock had a low end ouput of 145 hp

Combined with the tiny size and absurd reliability of a 350 smallblock this wpuld be amazing

>>34287250

That's actually just an MG, not a cannon

>>34292750
>ywn tear through the streets (literally) in a souped up FT

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>>34279776
>born to bully

>>34280192
WE CAN BUILD IT. WE HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY.

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FT a QT

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>>34268752
Modernized Renault:

Same size, weight and dimensions buuuut

650hp duramax diesel engine with a top speed of 60mph

Standard light vehicle armor, w/antispall kevlar interior

Advanced opitics suite/periscope

Multi-role weapons turret with options of:
>Bushmasters I-III and MK-19 for anti-infantry and anti-material
>Ma Deuce w/ shit ton of ammo for soft targets
>small bore missile launcher for rapid anti-armor combat

A retarded fast two-man infantry fighting vehicle with some anti-armor potential and a diesel-punk style?

Fuck it, I'd give it a shot, especially if they're mass-deployed.

>>34295207
Could the frame even handle going 60 mph?

>>34268752
Not really, no. I mean maybe against cartels or something but you could get broadly the same effect from a heavily modified truck. In fact cartels themselves use those.

>>34295207
Someone pitch the idea to Renault. It could be France's Wiesel.

>>34295263
A modernized frame could

>>34295207
>>34295355
Imagine these things tear-assing around en masse
I mean, it's basically a Ripsaw with a weapons suite. You could probably have a fully kitted out nu-Renault for a million or so, so swarm tactics could be employed.

I think ISIS should get a taste of the West's AFV spamming capability.

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>>34295207
That sounds amazing

>>34287250
that's not an ft variant

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>>34295207

Isn't that just basically a Wiesel... or a Humvee

>>34297279
>those rear view mirrors

>>34297356
is there an issue with them?

>>34297279
that's a good kitty

>>34297279
Neither of those are stylishly dieselpunk, though

Gotta get some class up in this bitch

>>34268752

These tanks were in service for what, the better part of 50 years? Not a bad record at all.

>>34298498
their service record is pretty impressive considering the FT's crude design. The T-54/55 has overtaken it in terms of length of service life, I wouldn't be surprised if they still trundle around warzones in 2055.

>>34298498
who was using it in the 60's? Some shit teir arab country?

>>34298759
Mostly as prime movers and tractors. I can't imagine there was any point in using them as front line combat vehicles, but they're fine as a dozer or some shit like that.

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>>34298894
>>34298759
the Mujahedeen used them

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>>34286991