Imagine this round in an FN P90 style gun. https://youtu.be/mymewEQiQhY

>>34260309
>7500 MSRP
>insanely expensive proprietary ammo
maybe in 2035

>>34260309
It would be worse than original FN P90. 7.5 is build fro semi-auto. 5.7 is build for automatic fire.

>>34260440
What about the 7.5 round prevents it from being used in an automatic?

>>34260478
Recoil.

Given that the P90 is blowback operated, prob not a great idea. The magazine style could work but you'd have to redesign the action. It'd be easier just to use more effective bullet designs, like those from Elite or a 5.7 version for Liberty's 4.6mm load.

The round might be neat for PDW applications, in something like the KAC or Magpul's vaporware bullpup, but I don't see the advantages over the existing 6x35mm round.

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>>34260695
>existing
fucking where

>>34260553
Idk if you've noticed, but it's not that difficult to handle intermediate cartridges on full auto and compensators have been around for decades

>>34260695
It's blowback, but it also has a 50k psi cartridge

>>34260309

FN P90 animated schematic

https://youtu.be/RuSkNq7JZLo

>>34260754
>but it's not that difficult to handle intermediate cartridges
Define "handle". What sort of group do you think guns chambered in the intermediate round shoot off hand on full auto and what groups do you need?

>>34260763
http://www.orions-hammer.com/blowback/

>>34260339
Stop being poor.

>>34260309
>That gong bit
>SERIOUSLY YOU GUYS. SERIOUSLY. YOUR DICK WILL BE SO HUGE. IT'LL BE LIKE "WOW WHAT A FAT COCK" HOLY FUCK MAN. THAT "CONFIDENCE" BRO.

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>>34260339
Thank you for this insightful comment Captain No Fun Allowed

>>34260309
>>34260339
With the price they expect people to pay, I really hope this company collapses in on itself and they lose everything from all the R&D costs they can't recover from because nobody wants to pay a car payment for a toy.

>>34260752
In the sense that KAC's PDW & cartridge have already been developed, whereas no PDW using the FK round has.

Really the FK only makes sense if you live in some country that restricts semi auto rifles, as you could attach the stock & use it as a shitty Carbine.

>>34261347
>Really the FK only makes sense
What about active shooter scenario? Just today police was forced to engage with pistols against rifle. Would not be assault pistol a help in such scenario?

>>34261014
It looks like the mother eats enough for both of them.

>>34261370
I don't see how a handgun with even more recoil would be more useful. IIRC, the officer shot the guy from less than 30 yards away.

Something like the B&T USW (basically a 9mm pistol with frame mounted red dot & folding stock), on the other hand, would be quite useful.

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>>34261160
It's a brand new round, dumbass.

Rich people pay for the prototypes. If the design is successful, the cost approaches the value of base materials with time and scale.

>>34260339
Is it really 7500 bucks? Fuck, if it was 2500 I could at least dream about it without going broke

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>>34261710

A lot of r&d went into it. It's a brand new gun designed around a brand new round.

Gotta admit, it's impressive.

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>>34260309
was on board until they shot a fucking deer.

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>>34260309
https://www.fkbrno.com/cartridge-7-5
>95gr bullet
>2000fps at the muzzle

Sweet

>>34260909
Whatever the hell the gun shoots in semi because that's how you shoot groups. If you are using FA it's either quick bursts at center mass or hosing a taget/area down. If you really want to see some FA in action you can look into submachinegun shooting competitions. These guys usually have to take out several targets in one long burst of fire

>>34261370
Assault pistols don't exist and something of that size has no real advantage over the ubiquitous cruiser carbine for cops or something the average citizen can CONCEAL so they don't get shot first. May as well carry a MP7 if you want something that dumb hanging off your hip

>>34261700
Thats part of it, but not on the scale or the way your stating it.

>>34261973
It's a giant CZ75 with a buffer thrown in for a cartridge playing catchup to the PDW market and 9x25 and it's a failed contract gun. It's not impressive

>>34262452
>>34260309
6" barrel minimum

WHAT
THE
FUCK

It's useless as a combat pistol. That would make it the largest semi-auto ever issued. Handguns aren't meant to make shots at 150m

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This gun would make sense if modified in a B&T USW-style sense as a sort of heavy-duty pistol.
Carryable in a regular holster, quick to deploy and effective at any range you're probable to encounter as a cop.

So how offensive is this gun compared to the MK23? Looks fairly offensive to me but doesn't have enough LAM

>>34262718
>Handguns weren't meant to make shots at 150m
Fixed. Welcome to the 2017.

>>34262681
This, the idea of a six-inch barrel and a nine-inch gun is a dumb joke I figured was over in the nineties. The bullet might be valuable but that can only be determined by shooting it out of a normal pistol. They should drop the idea of a tacticool version and fully market this thing for the eccentric fudd crowd.

>>34260309
Honestly you could get the same performance with a AKMSU build at a fraction of the cost.

>>34260763
It also has a very light projectile.
See, there's a balance to these things.

>>34261370
Honestly you sound like someone who thinks a Desert Eagle would be a good service pistol.

>>34261700
Considering they're pricing themselves out of the market entirely, I don't think it'll happen before they go out of business.

>>34262801
Pistols aren't used at those distances, they aren't used at half those distances, if you brought this in place of a rifle or carbine then you're a fuckup.

>>34262757
The thing is that, unless we start seeing a massive rise in firefights with lv3A wearing perps, this round is overkill for any kind of law enforcement scenario. Otherwise we would've adopted the 5.7 ages ago.

>>34260754
lemme break it down for ya champ.
>more recoil = slower rate of fire = less boolet in bad guy = dies slower.

the only purpose of an SMG in the modern world is very close room distance fighting, and in that type of fighting the highest rate of fire possible is the most effective because it gives the target less time to be alive and pull his trigger. reference PPSH, WW2.

>>34263215
>fuckup
Indeed with proliferation of mass shooters armed with high powder military rifles frequency of fuckups increases. Either first respondents armed with "conventional" pistol wait for backup and leave victims to die or responders go into fight terribly undergunned. Lose lose.

>>34263216
>this round is overkill for any kind of law enforcement scenario
Pls. From the hunter's experience 2000J is minimum for 180lbs animal if you are seeking for reliable "dropped like a sack of potatoes in his tracks" body shot kills.

>>34263708
the problem with pistols at those ranges arent the weapon per say, but that its hard as fuck to hit anything unless you are miculek. any retard can use a 2 handed gun and be effective with little effort

>>34263307
it has the same recoil of a 9mm, put this thing in a bullpup rifle and a compensator and the recoil will disappear

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>>34260309

Forget some boutique unobtanium caliber, why will FN never release a PS90 in 9mm? Is it entirely because they don't want to steal sales from their 5.7 meme or is there a legitimate mechanical reason?

I get why the P90 will probably always stay exclusively 5.7mm. With the intended AP ammo it probably performs the role it was designed for pretty well. It seems like chambering the civilian version in a more common and desirable caliber would give the PS90 a massive second wind of sales though.

>>34260309
Why not just chamber a pistol in 5.56?

>>34263871
9mm Luger has a taper, which doesn't really work with the P90 magazines, the cartridges must be completely straight (apart from the neck).

>>34263785
>same recoil as a 9mm
Have you shot one?

>>34264007
>tfw no 10mm p90

>>34264007
So in theory any rimless cartridge could work, given appropriate modifications for other dimentions

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>>34261014

>>34263785
They say it feels like shooting a .40 s&w

>>34263737
Which suggests that shot placement is key with any semi-auto pistol caliber.

>>34264869
Well, yes, but it has to be fully straight, you couldn't stack 9mm Luger, 7.62mm Tokarev or 5.56mm NATO in a magazine like it, because they wouldn't stack right.

>>34264907
I thought it was supposed to have the kick of a 10mm and the impact of a 44 mag with 7.62x39 velocity.

>>34264982
>impact of a 44 mag
Not with those bullet weights.

>>34264007
10mm Auto and both its obscure and meme derivatives will all work. The Brno is actually one of these.

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>>34260309
I just want a p90 chambered in 357 dig. Is that too much to ask?

>>34265013
Right, but anon wanted one in 9mm

>>34264007
p90 in 9mm with a byzon or calico mag?

>>34265080
Like in the old Fallout games? I suppose it could be done, but it'd be bulkier.

>>34265031
Some autist made a straight version of the 9mm Luger.

>>34265587
I doubt it's commonly available.

>>34265602
What part of "an autist made a thing" made you think that it's available at all?

>>34263085
This. Richfag market is within 5k and they've gone beyond that.

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>>34260800
this video makes my pants feel funny