Sup /k/unts, We recently got a few new pistols at my place of

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To field strip the APX, you pull the slide back slightly and either bull the trigger or push the button shown here to release the striker. Using the trigger makes more sense to me, but whatever.

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>>34254967
Once you've released the striker, you can then VERY FUCKING FIRMLY push the takedown lever inwards from the right side of the pistol, until the lever itself is offset from the side of the pistol like shown. This is a bit of a pain in the ass and will take some getting used to.

Anyway, once that is done, all you need to do is flip the lever down and the slide kicks itself forward. You then slide it off the frame and proceed to dig at its naughty bits.

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Generously gigantic slide rails in the APX. Everything seems reasonably well thought-out and well made to me.

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Feed ramp is nicely polished, though this is starting to become normal these days. The external chamber profile on the APX barrel is a bit wonky but it works.

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Quality of machining seems high on the APX. The only area where you can see tooling marks is in the upper portion of the slide I've marked. But I've seen this same thing in many pistols these days and it doesn't bother me personally.

The rest of the slide is well made, and some of the imperfections you'll see toward the rear are bits of dust from a rag I'd just used. Didn't notice until I was already off work.

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The recoil spring is a double captured type like what is becoming common, but it looks like a ham-fisted attempt at it. The 509's spring looks a lot cleaner but this one feels a lot better despite how it looks. Pardon the fuzz.

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Next we have the FN 509. I haven't watched any reviews on this turd but I feel like I don't have to. The trigger is abysmal. Take-up is sloppy, and the break feels like a long squish with a wet branch-like break to it. The slide has serrations in the front and back which is nice, but they aren't very deep so it is easy for your hand to simply slip when you're moving quickly. The grip ergos are quite good, but they always are for me on FN pistols as I have large hands. The external machining quality is outstanding, and the rigidity of the frame is stellar. The internal machining leaves a lot to be desired, however, and the pictures will show you what I mean. The action just feels gritty and sluggish even after several hundred rounds. The magazines are garbage on these. The seem to mostly function, but loading them is a bitch for no apparent reason. Rounds get hung up easily no matter what method you use to load them. I'm really disappointed in this pistol because I genuinely like most of FN's handguns. For a retail price of around $575, I'd avoid it until they un-fuck it.

To take it down, line up the notch with the takedown lever and flip said lever down. Pretty straightforward, unlike the APX.

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Note the much smaller slide rails on the 509, compared to the APX. This may have something to do with the action being much less smooth. The rear rails are also slightly crooked, turns out. I didn't notice until I'd already put the camera away. They appear to be two cast parts that are inserted into the frame.

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The 509's feed ramp is nicely polished.

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Lots of tooling marks, as you can see. Though the machining of the rail tracks is good.

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The 509's two-spring recoil system seems much more well thought-out than the APX, but in practice it isn't nearly as smooth and is needlessly heavy.

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Anyway, that's it. If you have any specific question I might be able to answer them.

Does beretta make a manual safety for the APX?

I'd like to use one for instruction as well as range toy, but need a manual safety

are the 509 mags compatible with other fn pistols?

>>34254936
What's your favorite striker fired 9mm?

>>34255246
According to my product catalog they only offer one model at the moment with no manual safety. If you need a good pistol for instruction and require a manual safety, maybe look at the M&P 2.0? 1911-style safety lever is easy to use. Or maybe look at a CZ P10C. They can be ordered with a manual safety I believe.

>>34254936
Any reason I shouldn't buy the APX?

>>34255281
CZ, Glock, and HK are my personal favorite striker guns.

>>34255262
FNS and 509 magazine bodies are the same, but the base plates are different. We swapped them at the range and they work fine. The reason is FN designed the 509 magwell with the intent to make it easier to manually pull a stuck magazine out. More purchase area on the baseplate.

>>34255322
Lack of aftermarket would be the big one for me, when you have so many other established options. For $500 or possibly lower, its a great standalone product. If you aren't invested in other platforms and don't plan to want, say, a mag-compatible carbine, then the APX would be a fine first striker gun.

>>34255262

From other forum posts they are not. You can get the base plates then convert FNS magazines into FN 509 magazines. For this reason and the constant new release of models with no backwards compatibility of parts or magazines is why I refuse to look at FN pistols.

>>34255322
Also, the serialized part is the receiver pack which can me moved to other frames that Beretta sells. If the platform gains in popularity, APEX or others may make trigger kits to round the pistol out and other manufacturers may make custom frames. That last bit has me particularly interested.

Cool.

>>34254936
>Contrary to what Mac says
MAC is also the guy that threw a VP9 repeatedly at steel and a tree and called it "unreliable," as well as shilled a Tavor during an AK tribute video.

Anyone who is smart shouldn't listen to anything he has to say.

>>34255246
>muh safety
I bet you're afraid of assault clips too

>>34255322
It's uglier than a glock, if thats even possible

>>34255094
>The recoil spring is a double captured type like what is becoming common, but it looks like a ham-fisted attempt at it.
This is pretty standard for the industry. It's not elegant, but that doesn't appear to matter.

>>34255120
Did you test if the frame goes *squishy-squishy* in direct sunlight?

>>34255148
>Note the much smaller slide rails on the 509, compared to the APX. This may have something to do with the action being much less smooth. The rear rails are also slightly crooked, turns out.
This doesn't strike me as a deal-killer. There are lots of durable, reliable, accurate pistols that have frame rail nubs instead of a full length channel. I don't think this kind of system is inherently any better or worse, just different.

>>34258137
Calm down kid, not everyone wants to be a cool cowadooty operator like you

>>34258169
It's ribbed for her pleasure

>>34254936
>Gloves
You a Homosex?

>>34254936
>Update
what is this thread about?

>>34255120
Well, that's not a glowing review.
I've been looking at a FNS9C for $360 to replace my S&W 669.

Should I hold off?