Conspiracy General

>>34253939
I'm pretty perturbed tbqh

Does this mean Nra memberships will be on sale?

>>34253939

>shooter was an angry Bernie supporter who hated Republicans

Thanks a lot, Democrats.

He used an AR15 so you can kiss those goodbye.

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ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME

>>34253961

Eye witness said ak 47s and cited the unique curve of the magazine.

Commie faggots

>>34253939
Well, that's some fucking bullshit.

How can you cancel lawmaking because there was an incident?

I'm still expected to do my job regardless of what happens somewhere, why aren't these shitbags?

>>34254022
Well these are the guys who have to vote. It's like running a restaurant without Cooks.

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>>34253939
Americans need to be able to defend themselves from left wing terrorists

>>34254022
well it's kinda hard to do the hearings and lawmaking when the lawmakers themselves are in the hospital with bullet wounds

This seems HIGHLY SUSPICIOUS. Unfortunately nothing will be investigated.

>>34254022
Because people involved in the lawmaking process were shot...

>>34254035
Fuck, are they even trying?

>>34254041
>>34254037
>>34254029


Turns out I'm the shitbag, didn't read the article

I assumed they were "traumatized" just by hearing about it or something

>>34254055
A shit bag wouldn't own up to it. Good job.

>>34254004
What if it was in 5.45 and had less of a curve though. Surely that would counter their eye witnesses.

>>34254055
>congressmens practice for their baseball game
>probably 20 of them there
>'traumatized by hearing about it'
Tell me anon, do you like to be shot at before or after breakfast?

>>34254068
Real American eats lead for breakfast.

>>34254068

I didn't know they had baseball games

When I think of legislative bodies I think of old men lobbyists and fatbodies

I thought they were being represented by somebody

>>34254068
it doesnt matter when, what matters is how you conduct yourself.

>not a single congressman returned fire
Andrew Jacksons ghost is displeased.

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>>34254048
Anyone trying to spin this as an anti-gun issue is trying to deflect that since November liberals have been getting increasingly violent in their rhetoric. I'm honestly shocked we've gone this long without a leftist attack.

>>34254094
Baseball is a game you can play with a beer in your hand. Let's not get too ahead of ourselves here.

>>34254099
>Randlet was there and didn't return fire

I bet papa Ron is disappoint right now.

>>34254095
>>not a single congressman returned fire
Most of them were there to play baseball, they probably weren't carrying

>grumpy liberal goes and tries to shoot some repubs
>people therr said they were sitting fucks and would have been helpless without the police there

I'm gonna be pissed if this doesn't push conceap carry right more

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>>34253939
>Can't phlogiston the James T. Hodgkinson

>>34254156
You know that this won't be mentioned after tomorrow right, the MSM doesn't want to continue any Pro-GOP news

Relax niggas, we didnt get a ban when Giffords was shot in the head or a bunch of little kids were slaughtered, it's not gonna happen now.

>>34254040
>Unfortunately nothing will be investigated.
How fucking dumb are you?

>>34254150
>they probably weren't carrying

fucking degenerates.

>>34254055
Nah, you're fine. I would've done the same. At least you recognized your mistake.

>>34254095
Im pretty sure at least one carries but they were practicing at the timr2

>>34254190
Have you ever tried carrying while playing a sport, let alone baseball where you'll be sliding?

>>34254131
I wouldn't think any of them COULD return fire, weren't they in DC? Didn't think you could carry there, even if you were an upper-class political leech.

>>34254173
It's not a regret over all potential ban, but the now very unlikely repeal of a ban already in place. Scalose was an HPA cosponsor, a bill that was going to be heard today, but has now been cancelled in favor of gun control legislation.

Basically when leftists can't win, they cheat, or something like that. The bill it was attached to was also going to ease access on hunting in general.

>>34254199
You don't have to slide if you shoot the baseman.

>>34254216
>a security detail and police playing baseball
Yeah no they definitely were armed, it just probably was sitting in their cars along with some cold brews for after practice.

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>>34254035
>mention that it was probably some AntiFa or Commie faggot who did this to parents
>both said "y-you shouldn't jump to conclusions, Anon!"
>end up being correct for the 8th shooting/attack in a row
Colour me surprised it was some assblasted Democuck.

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>>34254199
fat old dudes sliding let alone actually running.. really

>>34254216
VA, technically. Just across the river.

>>34254195
no excuse.

>>34254199
>congressmen
>sliding

apart from that, yea my dude, get a decent holster. or idk maybe PUT A GUN IN YOUR BAG??


>ITT carrying a weapon is now the hardest thing in the world.

>>34254233
I'd pay to see that. Screw MLB, I wanna watch my legislators play some fucking baseball. Far more entertainment value, I'd bet.

The gunman's weapon was similar to an M-4 assault rifle, CBS News has learned. Sen. Jeff Flake, R-Arizona, described the gunman to reporters as a middle-aged white male wearing a blue shirt and possibly jeans.

>>34254244
>slides into home
>scuffs knee
>doesnt show up to work for a month, waiting for "injuries to heal"

i can see it now.

>>34254220
>has now been cancelled in favor of gun control legislation
Im gonna need a sauce on that famalam.

>implying you're sliding in a for-fun league of baseball with other politicians
>implying you're going hard body during practice
Want to know how I know you're a child who has never played sports?

At the same time I completely agree, I would be carrying during practice. It would be in my car or with my gear and everyone would know where it was if needed.

>Sen. Flake says that there are six shot, CBSN says that the rifle used is indeed an M4 assault carbine and that it can take a while to find out where the weapon was illegally purchased. The FBI is at the scene.

>>34254244
>annual Dem vs Repub game
which senate member has the best arm?

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>>34254278
Rand ''the man'' Paul obviously

>>34254271
>illegally purchased

You know what. Let's go down the fobbit hole. Ten quid says it ends up being that full auto the atf lost during one of their sting operations involving a fake pawn shop and exploited retarded folk.

>>34254283
best hitter?

>>34254297
One of the black guys.

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>>34254283
>Be American government
>Endorse getting shot at
>Get shot at

>>34254310
>be American government
>endorse defending yourself
>get shot at
>defend yourself
Loads better than
>be European government
>endorse refugees
>get raped
>can't defend self

>>34254318
Loads better than
>be european
Was enough.

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>>34254310

Does anyone else find it funny and ironic that the first group to use guns in the past 20 years against a perceived tyranny was the Burn-outs?

This Congressman is going to recover, and he won't be a Gabbie Gifford hypocrite ("look at me on the shooting range!" photo op followed by "guns are evil" rhetoric) either. He's going to say this is an example of a criminal nutjob who shouldn't have a gun (will be interesting to see if he was already prohibited from having a gun anyway, further proving gun control bullshit doesn't work). He will affirm Americans have a 2nd Amendment right to own a firearm, including a semiautomatic rifle, and that if this jackass had stabbed him with a sharpened butter knife it doesn't mean he thinks butter knives or knife sharpeners need to be banned, just like if the asshole hit him with a car he doesn't think cars need to be banned. The Democrats will whine about how "but muh cars are regulated by the DMV" and some smart staffer will point out that if an unlicensed crazy person wants to get access to a car it isn't very damned hard at all despite said regulation/locks/licensing/etc. Some liberal will also point out that the damage would have been limited if the shooter had been limited to smaller magazine capacity, to which a smart staffer will point out that someone intent on causing harm with a vehicle might choose a large truck over a SmartCar.

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>>34254022
>>34254035
>>34254068
>>34254094
>>34254228
Call me tinfol fag but am i the only one who thinks this was false flag?
>be whoever pulls the string and doesn't want Americans to have guns
>find some disgruntled commie and tell him that another gun law that will make it impossible to jail people literally killing babies with their black salt rifles is about to pass
>what's worse becasue of that law nobody will ever hear the crimes
>babies will be killed in their cribs right nex to their parents and something has to be done about it
>oh nooo but we can't do anything about those white racist males trying to kill us
>unless...
>no, it's too risky and not worth the trouble
>but what if somebody would shoot up the place in the day when said bill would be discussed proving that we need stricter gun control
>now if we'd only have somebody who'd be willing to take up arms like a good socalist and fight those racist white males.....
>hmmmm where could we find somebody like that

>>34254310
>be European government
>endorse government's exclusive right to armed defense
>watch citizens get run over, stabbed, shot, and bombed

well that's loads better

>>34254336
Nah. Years of dealing with bernouts has taught me how garbo they all are.
-t. Vermont

>>34254338
Nothing surprises me anymore. I melted my tinfoil hat and drank it.

>>34253939
http://coub.com/view/v15xz

this legit makes me suicidal

>>34254095
there were 2 capitol police officers there who did return fire.

>>34254338
I'd call you tinfoil fag but after man won elections becasue of green frog memes i believe anything is possible.

>>34254257
I just sifted through the other thread fairly heavily and i thought i had seen it in one of the links, but now i can't find it. So until someone does, take that part as valueless commentary.
>>34252782

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it's happening

>>34254345
That's disheartening to hear, interested in moving to VT from Jersey

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>>34254364

>>34254376
That's on the literal other side of the continent though

>>34254376
>https://twitter.com/cnnbrk/status/875029879422672896
>it's real

oh shi-

>>34254380
The good news is that there's more and more bad stuff about how his wife has been using his influence to run scams hitting the news lately. Eventually, people are going to get tired of him.

>>34254364
>http://coub.com/view/v15xz
>93 million a day
holy fuck

>>34254364
>literally "2 man gats on da street homie, ebil guns be ebil"

>>34254189
He's suggesting that the shooter was employed by the Clinton Foundation, whom are known to have killed multiple high-profile political advocates and some lesser known names and investigation immediately withdrawn.

>>34254397
Traffic is bound to be better tomorrow, then.

>>34254220
> hearing
> postponed
Not vote canceled. All hearings and votes were postponed today due to the majority whip getting shot. This is to be expected.

>>34254397
Well, gg folks. We have 2.5 months before the entire human race is extinct.

>>34253939
Why doesn't some asshole just bring a suppressed blank firing firearm into congress and give everyone hearing damage?

>>34254220
It was postponed in light of the shooting, like all other legislative action. Relax.

How's gun control in Illinois? Is it hard to get an AR like that guy?

Hope these fucking assholes remember that we will never comply no matter how many lefty loonys shoot people and we will never surrender our firearms. Even here in NY many secretly have "evil" pieces of metal and will never give them up.

Literally moldy labia

>>34254392
Yeah but, I mean the general attitude there.

It's tolerable here in NJ having been a Dem state in the past election but it's a definite push factor for leaving. Being able to own guns without mag caps, buying handguns without a 90 day license and unrestricted cc are a pull.

>>34254337
>You know what. Let's go down the fobbit hole. Ten quid says it ends up being that full auto the atf lost during one of their sting operations involving a fake pawn shop and exploited retarded folk.
he died

>>34254438
State or city? Because of course you do, unless I'm wrong the gun crime in NYC is crazy disproportional to new york state's. Why doesn't NYC just govern itself and not cuck the rest of the state along with it?

>>34254380
NH or ME don't have so much of that crap.

>>34254068
>do you like to be shot at before or after breakfast?
Where do you think you are? Getting shot at probably arouses him.

>>34254420
Not soon enough.

>>34254458

I live on Long Island. There's noticeable support for either splitting off upstate or having home rule, unfortunately for me most of the time it's proposed it leaves LI firmly imprisoned by the city.

People upstate can sometimes get away with openly taking out their noncompliant guns innawoods and the local PDs don't care, just the state troopers (Governor's personal gestapo) to worry about. Down here on LI it's not really an option. I can't say how many people actually just didn't register salty weapons but I know many who have made their ARs "fixed mag" in a way that can be undone in 2 minutes.

>>34254461
Yeah but Vermont is the prettiest.

I've spent far too much time in google maps street view just cruising down the roads and checking out towns. New Hampshire and Maine don't have as many pretty towns as Vermont like Middlebury, Montpelier, or Burlington.

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>>34254283
Wait do you seriously not think, like 3/4ths of americans, that ron paul and his son are fucking nuts?... As cool as rand thinks guns are he isn't pro 2a.

>>34254364
Did that niggah say we lose 93 million Americans a day to gun violence? Wtf

>>34254336
>find it ironic?
>violent leftists
Nope.

>>34254530
weed lmao

>>34254617
>Rand isn't pro 2A
U wot m8

>>34254684

This.

the cancelled the hearing, not the bill, probably because no one would be of sound mind talking about gun legislation after one of their coworkers got shot.

>>34254684
I'm not a weed smoker, kind of degenerate to me desu.

>>34254617
>rand
>not pro 2a
Are you fucking kidding me?
Also,
>implyign ron isn't the one true god of all that is HAPPENING

>>34254663
It is, however, ironic that this guy went out and shot Republicans when it was really the Democrats who cheated his beloved Sanders out of the presidency.

That's the power of the (((Media))) for you.

post the infographic that shows the political leanings of past mass shooters

if i recall correctly they are 90% DEMS or extreme leftists and the other two are Muslim

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>>34254617
>>34254310

>>34254131
Politicians are not allowed to carry.

>>34254690
He enjoys firearms but doesn't think ordinary citizens should have them.

>>34254327
kek

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>>34254853
Citation please.

Conspiracy incoming

The left saw the HPA going up and would most likely be passed, so they needed something to cancel it, they shot some of the people who were to vote on it, then once the media realized people are starting to blame the left over it, they needed another incident to take away attention, but not before they mention that guns need to be banned from the Gov of the state.
The left needed a scapegoat to get the HPA postponed, and are trying to get GOP to go against the 2nd by showing that they can be deadly
and you can tell that the shooter had never fired a gun before, he was probably just given it by some shadowman and told to shoot, 50-100 bullets and only 4-5 hits, and in random places like the hip and leg, none in center mass
the left needed some disposable no-name to do this, someone no one would have guessed, a "normal" person to show that the tyrannical government is turning the average American to shoot at "tyrannical" politicians.

>>34254870
https://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2015/04/09/why-rand-paul-is-unwelcome-at-nra-gun-rights-convention/

>>34254877
Hopefully nobody falls for it.

>>34254877
mother fucker i've been saying that since the start. but honestly he was probably just some retard who thought it would be poetically ironic.

>>34254921
But I compiled it all and posted it, checkmate atheists

>>34254903
"nra doesn't like competition"
As far as I can tell the NAGR is basically the nra without cucks.

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>>34254937
you mother fucker

>>34254955
>NAGR
you fuking raysist

>>34254958
yea but that pic is comparing deaths at the hands of other humans to deaths by mother nature, one can't be helped the other can with more laws

>>34254998
>the other can with more laws
Oh how I wish I could see the world through your eyes, anon.

>>34254998
Show me where firearm restrictions and 'gun free zones' have effect.

>>34254437
Isn't Chicago in Illinois? Heard that gun control is strict there, but idk if that means there's gun control in the same state. t.Foreignfag

Reminder that this is why leftists should not be granted the rights from the constitution. They cannot be trusted with them.

>>34253939
Its still going to get voted on eventually isnt it?

>>34255078
>the people i dont agree with shouldn't get rights

thats bad people talk

>>34253961
It was an Uzi-styled Shotgun

>>34253939
In case anyone was wondering ALL hearings and votes were cancelled for today, not just the HPA

>>34255078
>right
>granted
that's not how that works, anon

>>34255109
Well they be up for voting again soon though?

>>34255134
Eventually, gonna have to be reschuduled and wait for democrats to submit and have rejected a gun control bill

>>34255163
I just want this to pass. Please just pass.

>>34255078
How fucking unamerican can you get lmao

>>34253939
well how about that. now isn't this a coincidence

>>34253961
>>34254004
>Highly curved magazine
>No fatalities
>Libshit

10/22, anyone?

>>34255211
"weapon similar to an m4 assault carbine"
I think it was an ar. if it was a 10/22 the bullets would've bounced around inside the victims and shredded their organs.

>>34254498
Unfortunately, many people who live here work in the city and have adopted a city mentality. I wish the city would just become its own political entity like DC, but even a lot of LIers support very strict gun control, so I doubt we'd be better off.

>>34255206
>thinking leftist should have the right to vote
Minorities vote based on gibmedats, women purely on emotion, and leftists are plain retarded.Enjoy being a cuck

>>34255211
[Citation needed]

>>34255273
>the way you vote determines whether or not you should be allowed to vote

not very american

>>34255273
>right to vote
Reminder that positive rights aren't rights; only negative rights are actually rights. The "right" to decide how other people are forced to live their lives isn't a right; it's a crime that nobody should get away with committing.

>>34254310
I always found it weird how folks can spend entire years of their lives hyping up an idea, in this case the right of the people to shoot at the government, and then act completely shocked when someone practices what they preach.

>>34254998
>From 2005-2014, there were an average of 3,536 fatal unintentional drownings (non-boating related) annually in the United States — about ten deaths per day.1 An additional 332 people died each year from drowning in boating-related incidents
ban murder pools

>>34254617

Newfag /leftypol/ shills need to go and stay gone.

>>34254156
>Rep. Chris Collins, R-N.Y., who was not at the practice, told a Buffalo television station he has decided to carry his gun with him everywhere as a result of the shooting.

>"I have a carry permit," he told WKBW. "On a rare occasion I’d have my gun in the glove box or something, but it’s going to be in my pocket from this day forward."

>>34255503
>my fucking rep said this
God damn it Collins I knew I liked you for a reason

>>34254426
this idiot thinks a rifle cycles with a suppressor shooting blanks lolwut!?

I don't know anything about anything and this is probably just a retarded thought that will be dismissed by me some time later, but why do I get the idea that this incident will spark something bigger?

>>34254220
>Scalose[sic] was an HPA cosponsor
FUUUUUUCK

>>34255503
>tfw moving to New York
I know who to vote for now

>>34254998
The picture also makes the statement that ``mass shooting deaths'' occur at a rate a quarter that of lightning strike deaths. Meaning that you're far less likely to die in a shooting than you are getting struck by lightning.

Take it at face value. A mass shooting is at the rate of a freak accident.

>>34254336
Wyatt about the nut who shot Giffords, or the Nazis who killed those cops in Vegas?

>>34255714
The rate is even lower if you avoid gun free zones like the plague.

>>34253939
FUCK ME
I saw the CNN article for this and didn't even realize it was about the HPA until I found the hearing was supposed to take place this morning
I'M SO FUCKING PISSED

>>34254877
>the left
Like we all have secret Stonecutter meetings or something

Nobody gives a shit about gun control anymore and the two people who do wouldn't use them to begin with.

You know exactly why they were shot at. Everyone here does. This will get worse before it gets better sadly.

>>34255981
>Nobody gives a shit about gun control anymore
kek, plenty do. California just passed a few more measures thanks to the "pro-gun" left, IL will probably pass its UBC measure after this shooting and RI is going forward with its magazine ban.

don't confuse social media trends among millennials and Gen Z with "everybody".

>>34255981
>Nobody gives a shit about gun control anymore
Would that it were so simple!

>>34254452
The only one who died was the Bernie supporter who was doing the shooting, shitdick.

>>34254877
>The left
ah yes, because leftbook is such a bastion of power and control

>>34253961
thank god

AR15s are such fucking plebe shit

get a rifle that isn't a meme you nerdlingers

(inb4 some paranoid yankee lunatic fucko conflating "AR15s are for plebs" with "all guns should be banned")

>>34256022
Gun control is dead nationally. Nothing will change that.

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>50 shots fired
>none center mass
>>>no kills
AR fanboys on suicide watch

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>>34254998

>>34254336
>Does anyone else find it funny and ironic that the first group to use guns in the past 20 years against a perceived tyranny
Have you been in a coma for the past 20 fucking years or are you just a foreigner who doesn't keep up with US news? I have a hard time believing you don't remember at least one other shooting in the past 20 years from someone fighting perceived tyranny in the US.

>>34256148
m8 the closest it's gotten on the right is people waving guns angrily but not actually firing

the american right wing is pussies

>>34256187
would you solicitude response?

>>34254336

You'd think someone who clearly lives under a rock would know how the weather is underground.

>>34255981
>You know exactly why they were shot at. >Everyone here does.
I truly don't. Please explain?

>>34256187
Off the top of my head, we've had people shoot a couple cops in Vegas and bring a Gadsen flag along/talk about trying to start a revolution, that sniper who went after police officers last year, and possibly that other sniper who went after police officers the year before within the past 4 years. I don't think there's a year that goes by in the US without someone shooting someone else to fight tyranny.

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>>34256285
>killing cops
Police hate seems like a squarely neo-leftist thing, though.

>>34256363
>people waving a Gadsen flag are leftists
wat

Also, my point with the other shooting was more about the claim that no one else has used guns to fight perceived tyranny in the past 20 years.

>>34256396
Did you even read my post?

I said that
>Police hate seems like a squarely neo-leftist thing,
>Police hate seems like a squarely neo-leftist thing,
>Police hate seems like a squarely neo-leftist thing,
where did i comment about meme snakes in that?

>>34255617
>increased back pressure
You sure got me...

>>34256407
The first shooting I listed involved people with a Gadsen flag shooting cops you tard. Learn to read.

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>>34253939
>WHY THE FUCK CAN'T WE JUST HAVE NICE THINGS

Chinese Communist Party.

>>34256407
They were literally neo-nazi terrorists trying to spark a revolution against Obama.

>>34255714
>Take it at face value. A mass shooting is at the rate of a freak accident.
this is why in most countries, gun law discourse usually boils down to things like safe transport and usage by regular people in regular conditions, and not "MUH CHILLUNS" vs "MUH NIGGERS"

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>>34255973
>>34254877
Chinese Communist Party would do this just to cause political chaos.

Please don't allow yourselves to be terrorized.

>>34255211
He probably had one of those faggot archangel stocks on a 10/22

>>34256285
>>34256396

Those puppets waving gadsden flags were paid federal informants. How stupid are you? "Hey guys ima a snitch but will take care to fly the gadsden flag for revolution hehe"

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>>34256491
>hehe
idk why but this always reminds me of furry porn made by non-anglophones because they use "hehe" and variations of it so much and so unironically

>>34256231
Ok, that was a good burn, but they only did bombings IIRC.

>>34256148
I really wasn't thinking of cop killers when I made that comment, I was more thinking of government officials, but I guess you could make the argument.

>>34254296

Pretty sure it's just a run of the mill AR-15 since the media doesn't know guns.

Ugh. This whole thing makes me sick. I can practically hear the anti-gun crowd mentality that went into the making of this guy. The ordinary anti-gunners ARE the extremists; they're gun grabbers plain and simple.

"The Republicans aren't going to embrace common sense gun legislation until white conservatives are the ones getting shot." That's the attitude they have, with their simplistic understanding of the way public policy works. The left has gotten increasingly dangerous with inciting people with their "drastic measures are justified because conservatives are literally Hitler" rhetoric. Inflating this with mass media reporting of alleged "hate crimes" that later turn out to be complete fucking hoaxes is a big part of the problem.

If he's a Bernie supporter, he apparently either disregarded Bernie's "no assault weapons" and "no high capacity magazines" rhetoric, OR he may have chosen to use those things to make a twisted point.

>>34255382
This. As pissed off as i am that the HPA IS Temporarily postponed, this leftist moron finally used the 2nd Amendment for what is was designed for; showing politicians that they are accountable to the people of the United States.
I disagree with that cuck's belief system on many points, but i also have to give him props for reminding us of the supremecy of the armed citizen over bureaucrats.
The people should never be scared of their government, governments must always be afraid of the people.

As pissed as I am about the left REEEEEing all the time, the fact that a Bern-Out from a cuck-state can use the 2nd for its intended purpose and put fear into congress gives me an odd feeling of hope inside.

The system works, gents.

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>>34256856
>The system works, gents.

Nice try, FBI

>>34254169
>Can't go messin' with Hodgkinson

>>34256856
FUCK OFF ATF, STOP TRYING TO HONEY POT US, I WON'T JOIN YOUR "MILITIA" AND MAKE A FULL AUTO SHOESTRING M1,

I HOPE YOU GET PAY DEDUCTED WHEN YOU GET FOUND OUT YOU FUCKING SPOOK

>>34256886
Kek, i didnt even realize I was memeing

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>>34253939
The bill and the legislation behind the hearing are not canceled it's that members of the committee are in the hospital. It sucks its delayed but silencers have been stamp bait for almost 100 years a few more weeks wont kill us.

>>34256856
>>34255382
the 2nd amendment is to resist tyranny you mongrels, not for assassination

just cuz trump hurt your feelings over muh global warming or you cant force taxpayers to fund your healthcare doesnt mean youre now allowed to go murder innocents

let me know when the govt tries to quarter soldiers in your home, take your guns, ban hatespeech, or some shit that the constitution explicitly prohibits. actually the govt has exceeded some of this already, but we all know this bernout was likely more pissed about muh tax the rich than actual constitutional rights

>>34256917
>me
>spook

LMAO, dude. Good guess tho, Im in intel by trade, but on the private financial side. The closest Im getting to .gov are reports on Somali pirate activity I could be putting out for shipping companies. (Trying to get a new job in global logistics security)

>>34256856
This is exactly how I feel.

Congress is has been corrupted beyond repair by money, PACs and lobbyists. They don't serve the people anymore, they serve whoever helps them win re-election. This goes for both parties.

While this guy's political beliefs certainly aren't close to mine, it gave me a warm tingly feeling that someone used their second amendment rights the way the founders intended: against a corrupt government that is no longer for the people, by the people.

>>34256930
>almost 100 years
>June 26, 1934

>>34256945
>the 2nd isnt for assassination

Show me where it says that in the 2nd, Ill wait. It was written as a failsafe agains federal tyranny.

>now you leftists need to understand reality, tha your fee fees aren't ground for shit like this

Not a leftist, and I agree. The point Im making is that from a constitutional and natural rights perspective, if citizens feel they genuinely are being oppressed by the govt, they're in the clear morally to do this.

I wont lie, Im not pleased with the current reversal on climate policy (I had stock in Tesla and was hoping to make bank on model 3) and am worried about the infrastructure bill, I THINK THE LEFT IS RETARDED FOR THINKING THIS CONSTITUTES LETHAL ACTION.

I dont want to take the convo off track so if you think the current govt has done no wrong, thats totally cool and we'll agree to disagree.

Guns are fucking awesome, and I hop these congressmen and the LEOs survive, esp so we can get the HPA running.

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>share act containing HPA made it to the house
>hearing cancelled due to congressional baseball shooting caused by a bernie supporting faggot
AIN'T GONNA TINFOIL
I AIN'T GONNA TINFOIL

>>34256957
Nice to see someone sees what Im getting at.

I agree that the system has become too interest based, instead of focused on the aggregate population as a whole.

>>34256856
Thank you for this analysis.

Honestly hope the GOP doesn't push for gun control after this.

The party isn't pro-gun, per say. They're more of anti anti-gun. See what Reagan did in the 80s.

>>34257091
it probably has a lot more to do with the fact that it was a scheduled event with a lot of congressmen out in the open at the same time, and since it was a practice it likely had less security than the actual game.

>>34255106
I heard it was a FAMAS

>50 rounds fired
>Most missed
>Said to be in stable condition
>Brought to ((((That hospital))))
>Critical condition now.


>>34257203
Probably would try to pass a bill at this point,

>>34253939
Any idea how long its being postponed?

>>34257038
2a just protects right to keep and bear arms. only the declaration of independence talks about the right to rebellion

the 2a protects the capacity to wage rebellion, it does not legalize it. you must accept that true rebellion would be a willful act of "treason" against a govt - just like the colonials did against the crown.

that's why anyone supporting attempted murder of a duly elected rep or thinking this is some proper exercise of the 2a is fuckin retarded. these reps havent done anything tyrannical (by modern standards at least) and were playing a fuckin baseball game, not actively planning a declaration of martial law and a suspension of constitutional rights

i'm far from a bootlicker, and a lot of our true constitutional rights are being infringed every day (ie automatic rifles illegal) - but what happened here was not preceded by some eloquent justification or manifesto on some grave injustice, it was cuz of muh 2 scoops fuck drumpf

>>34256856
You're obviously a moron regardless of whatever your political bent may be. This guy was NOT using the Second Amendment for its "intended purpose" any more than Black Lives Matter idiotspawn who shoot at cops are.

Even the Obama administration never rose to the level of a "tyrannical regime," and neither has Trump. Oddly, the ones who probably came closest were Abe Lincoln, with his suspension of habeas corpus, or FDR, with his internment camp orders.

The fear is that the logical extension of some policies, once a government heads down increasingly unconstitutional path, step too far onto the rights of a free people. Obviously the definition of "tyranny" is going to be somewhat subjective, but we haven't seen that shit in this country in our lifetimes. We Americans are REALLY sensitive to it, which is a good thing so long as we curb our action away from taking extreme measures first.

This guy is no political patriot, he's just a common criminal or at best a domestic terrorist. There is a difference, and the line isn't fuzzy enough to come close to covering his sorry ass.

>News talks for over a year that Trump is literally super ultra mega mecha hilter^2
>Batshit lib who religiously follows current year man and captain two scoops goes even further beyond full retard
>Left screams about gun control while their underlings approve of the violence and demand more
It adds

>>34253961
>Ar-15s being banned in a republican majority congress and Senate with a republican president

LOL ok

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>>34256856
>>34256920
>>34256947
>>34256957
>>34257038

Oh hai FBI/NSA/CIA/ATF/LBGTBBQ

>>34256856
I don't think it was designed for this jackass to attempt an assassination.

But yes they do have a value in preventing abuses by the government.

He should have thrown a stone at him if we were going by the founder's thinking. A good solid stone to change an opinion.

But even then he's severely crazy.

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Anyone else think this is extremely odd because of how old this guy is?

It doesn't fit the profile.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGjcShNZabM

>>34254338
it's actually more likely to discourage the child trafficking investigations uncovered from the Weiner investigation (pizzagate). the primary target of the shooting (scalise) is on that committee.

>>34256930
This. Holy shit people, you are the easiest and most excitable bunch of retarded niggers I've ever seen. It's going to go to the hearing like it's scheduled.

>>34255753
Wasn't the guy who shot Gifford a Democrat?

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>>34257574
He was just a nutter

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>>34255503
Not in the city of Albany, where handguns may not be carried, no matter your license, and where our gov't officials do their business. This state is fucked. I'm glad to see one of ours speaking this way, but on the whole, the handgun license system here is oppressive and downright criminal.

For those that don't know, you are issued a license that is a "concealed carry handgun license" and it is immediately restricted to just being able to own a handgun, carrying it isn't illegal but will have your gun confiscated and a police report sent to the issuing judge who takes your license away. But this way, the libs can still tell us that we are allowed to have CC license. It's all about the best sounding headline you can write, nothing to do with our rights or freedoms. FUAC!

>>34254004
That would explain the number of shots relative to number of victims.

So have they said anything about rescheduling the HPA hearing?

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>>34256504
>always reminds me of furry porn made by non-anglophones because they use "hehe" and variations of it so much and so unironically
>/k/ - disgusting Fur Fags

>>34258001
>"posponed until further notice"

>>34254617
Who cares if they think they are nuts? If you're not fucking nuts in the eyes of normies in current year, you're doing something wrong.
>>34256856
This

Did any other hearings get cancelled because of this or just this one?

>>34256965
is 83 somehow not almost 100?

>>34257203
Every GOP person who's been asked about gun control after this shooting has basically said, "Fuck no, shall not be infringed"

>>34253939
RREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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somebody post the infographic that has a list of spree shooters paired up with their political leanings...

will dump infographics and pro-2A-propa for now...

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>>34261423

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>>34261428

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>>34261464

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZqNUo6y52Q

Those capitol cops were pretty boss. Does anyone know what the engagement distance was?

>>34254283
>>34254310
>>34255382
>>34256856
>>34256957

The statement stands true. Just because the government is being shot at does not mean that it is tyrannical.

Apparently no one knows how the fuck logic works anymore.

>>34257334
>that's why anyone supporting attempted murder of a duly elected rep or thinking this is some proper exercise of the 2a is fuckin retarded. these reps havent done anything tyrannical

well, at least this guy gets it

>>34254998

There are lots of things you can do to not get hit by lighting.

For example do not hold a big metal rod in the sky while standing on your roof in a thunderstorm.

one option we have to avoid getting shot by a nut job is to have a CCW and shoot back.

I remember watching on of the guys getting shot at saying he never felt so good as when he saw a good guy with a gun show up and start shooting or something that effect.

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>>34261472
That's not really how humans work.
There were 35k motor vehicle deaths in the US in 2015
Would you trade 15k road deaths for 1k annual deaths in Islamic terror attacks? It would make statistical sense.

>>34254035

The fact that this guys Facebook page has likes for liberal propaganda TV shows like Trevor Noah and Bill Maher is honestly not surprising.