Best battleship coming through

If the Japs had Iowa and the Americans had Yamato, the war would have been over in '43.

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>>34240409
>Post battleships that actually did stuff and weren't just fleet queens.

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>>34240409
>Best battleship
You rang?

>>34241200
South Dakota?

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>>34241215
North Carolina

>>34241200
North Carolina best BB

>>34240409

This is why I can't get into that boat girls anime thing, because goddamn if it's not sad to imagine a cute girl rusting.

>>34241234

They shouldn't have made any more BB's after the North Carolina-class was finished.

>>34241156
Yeah, in the Japs favor.
>Radar vs Optical gun control
Radar hands down every time.

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>>34241245
But the BB-61 remained in service long after WW2 and is still maintained today

>>34241245
Ap of Blue Steel is GOAT.

>>34241263

>Implying that puny Iowa guns could penetrate armor folded thousand times

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>>34241299
Oh something's gonna get penetrated alright
>implying you wouldn't

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>>34241299
>folded jap pig iron vs Americanium
>Americanium armor over vitals, vs pig iron thrown haphazardly
>deplete fish netting to create camo screen for shitty ship
>mfw Japs starved for ship that only killed ONE target.

>>34241472
Was there anything wrong with armor of Jap warships?

And armor of Yamato seems thick enough though.

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>>34241156
It would have been over regardless of which side had which battleships.

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South Dakotas weren't bad.

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>>34241194
>>34241234
>>34241200
>>34241259
None of these are the most decorated battleship in the US Navy

>19 battle stars GET FUCKED

>>34241635
Awards don't mean shit

Daily reminder that the Yamato's superior optical fire control system (the best in the world) could send a shell 30km away into a target with the deviation of two quarters and instantly destroy a warship with its superior design Type 91 diving shells that could penetrate any and all battleships below the waterline and explode as a torpedo, causing massive flooding in the enemy vessel and ensuring its doom after a single salvo which would always land true (as evidenced by Kirishima landing the first salvo on the South Dakota in the dead of a moonless night)

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>>34242314

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>>34242333

>>34242314
>be yamato
>have your battlefleet engage an enemy force that masses less than your one ship alone.
>lose.

>>34242348
>be Iowa
>shoot trees

>>34242352
>be iowa
>still floating

>>34242358
A warrior should fall on the battlefıeld, being bested by a superior opponent. Floating aimlessly as a rust bucket is a terrible fate for a warship.

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>>34242370
>superior opponent
>some flying tin cans
you're floating poverty machine got cucked

>>34240409
>build pair of BBs 1937-42
>planes and subs rule the seas
>useless hotels folded over thousand times

>build pair of BBs 1937-42
>build two more 1939-42
>build four more 1940-1944
>retreat the planes so BBs can shoot some boats for practice
>literal museums

Old shit Warspite ended up being the best BB.

>>34242314
>causing massive flooding in the enemy vessel and ensuring its doom after a single salvo which would always land true (as evidenced by Kirishima landing the first salvo on the South Dakota in the dead of a moonless night)
>(as evidenced by Kirishima landing the first salvo on the South Dakota in the dead of a moonless night)

>use search light to illuminate target
>muh masterful moonless night optical gunnery
>still doesn't sink the SD
>gets absolutely fucked up in the following exchange of fire by Washington

>>34242423
>disable a 1939 battleship with an outdated and outclassed 1918 battlecruiser
>battleship has to be bailed out by another 1939 battleship before Kirishima could do real damage to the floating hulk that could not respond to enemy attacks

>>34242445
>moving goal posts this hard

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>>34240409

SURELY YOU JEST. THE VALIANT YAMATO RISES AGAIN TO CHALLENGE THE GREAT EVIL. YAMATO WILL BATTLE WITH HONOR AND SACRAFICE, NOT THINKING OF ITSELF BUT GIVING 100% FOR ALL MANKIND! BANZAI
BANZAI
BANZAI
BANZAI

>Japan
>effective fire control

pick one

>>34242445
>disable a 1939 battleship with an outdated and outclassed 1918 battlecruiser
>not including the rest of the Japanese group that was still floating that focused all their fire on the South Dakota
>ganging up on a partially disabled ship suffering electrical problems from lazy engineers is impressive
Meanwhile the Washington chased down and sank damn near half the Japanese battle group.

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>>34241760
But actions do my post-Vietnam friend.

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>>34241156

However

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>>34241279
>He gets his sources form an anime ship girl game.

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>>34240409
>only 16 inches
When will gunlets ever learn?

>>34242991
>1940
>not using ultraboosted 15 inch gun
Do you even Littorio?

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>>34242501
>The force included Kirishima, heavy cruisers Atago and Takao, light cruisers Nagara and Sendai, and nine destroyers
>Meanwhile the Washington chased down and sank damn near half the Japanese battle group.
You have wild dreams my nigga.

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>>34241525
Yamato class had major structural issues where her torpedo protection system joined the hull. When those welds shit the bed, they let in a lot of water. Armour quality was regarded as good from post-war US analysis, but overall Jap shipbuilding was plagued with poor technical expertise which meant a lot of ships had serious structural, design and stability flaws. They had to rebuild a lot of ships in the interwar period due to ships capsizing or splitting in half during typhoons and bad weather. Even then a lot of rebuilt Jap ships which entered WW2 were polished turds with nasty design vices, and these stability problems would make the already woefully sub-par Japanese damage control techniques futile in many cases.

>>34242749
Those poor Viets in that shitty steaming jungle.

>I'm tired
>my feet hurt
>I've been humping mortar rounds all day
>Sun-ho dropped our rice ration
>Oh great, someones firing shells the size of a water buffalo at us.

>>34241299
They didn't fold it enough.
http://navweaps.com/index_tech/tech-040.htm
Specifically reference sections "Steel Quality" and the conclusion.
In short, the Japanese's armor was Vickers KC: comparable to the ships of other nations built during the pre-ww1 arms race. At 1992ft/s 26" of armor is on the extreme edge of what a super-heavy shell can penetrate but it not only went straight through, but did so with such force as to break the entire plate in half. Even the non-penetrating hit spalled the shit out of the inside of the armor.

In effect, what this means, is that as long as a hypothetical shot does not hit a turret face, or have USS Washington-tier shit occur, it will go straight the fuck through the belt or superstructure of a Yamato.

>>34244185
Keep in mind that belt armor would usually be in a more difficult angle towards incoming shells and some battleships had armor layout designed to shake off the ballistic cap.

>>34244157
Was NJ in Vietnam?

>>34242749
19 stars in 23 years
Vs.
15 stars in 6 years

You want to talk actions?

>>34244591
Yep

GUN DAMAGE ASSESSMENT, (1968 -1969 Combined)
MAIN BATTERY
Structures destroyed – 439
Structures damaged – 259
Bunkers destroyed – 596
Bunkers damaged – 250
Artillery sites neutralized – 19
Automatic weapons, AA, and mortar sites silenced – 35
Secondary explosions – 130
Roads interdicted – 26
Meters of trenchline rendered unusable – 1,925
Cave and tunnel complexes destroyed – 75
Enemy killed in action (confirmed) – 136
Enemy killed in action (probable) – 17
Troop movements stopped – 12

SECONDARY BATTERY
Structures destroyed – 56
Structures damaged – 92
Bunkers destroyed – 59
Bunkers damaged – 73
Artillery sites neutralized – 2
Mortar sites silenced – 6
Waterborne Logistic Craft (WBLC) destroyed (Sea Dragon) – 9
Secondary explosions – 46
Enemy killed in action (confirmed) – 10
Enemy killed in action (probable) – 7 - See more at: http://www.battleshipnewjersey.org/the-ship/vietnam/#sthash.Rh0b5mhx.dpuf

>>34245030
Damn, what's the cost ratio of naval gun bombardments to missiles and drones?

>>34245085
cheaper to use a deck gun than to fire missiles or launch planes.

>>34245226
It's a damn shame the target is so far from shore. Perhaps they are afraid?

>>34244135
The main issue is that Japan went their own way after the Naval treaties, and had little expertise in building their own warships. They learned some in the interwar period with the Fusou and Ise classes, but were still woefully behind everyone else. Then you factor in aggressively cutting down weight through extensive welding while maximizing guns and speed to try and skirt the naval treaties, you get relatively weak ships structurally speaking, that are also top heavy due to massive armament and superstructures.

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>>34240409
>How's the bottom of the ocean treating you, Yamatofags
Which one? On which planet again?

Iowafags be jelly they can't into space

>>34243120
Got me like
>"Where da hood at"? Down in ze bottom of der zee

>>34242370
>Yamato
>Warrior

>>34241558
The first ship sure as fuck was

>>34242314
Certainly that superior fire control didnt help a lot when she surprised Taffy3 off Samar and never landed a confirmed hit.

Kongo and Nagato at least landed main battery hits.

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best battleship checking in

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>>34240409
Get the fuck out of my way.

If land based artillery is the king of battle, why has the Navy abandoned naval artillery and gunfire support? Can missiles provide the same service?

>>34247037
The short answer is yes.

Wasnt the original plan for the North Carolina class to be an answer to japanese Kongo class? I think i read some where that the original plans were for a ship with 3x3 14in guns at 30 knots. Is this true.

>>34249919
No, they were just to be a modern battleship built under the second london naval treaty. They were upgunned after Japan backed out of the talks.