Mexico Cartel War

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>>34239505

>>34239505
Can you enlighten me on the Mexican cartels, and what's going on there? Are all these pics of cartel members, or government agents that fight the cartels? Also, what is it that makes the cartels interesting?

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>>34239589
So far these are all cartel pics. To put it briefly it's a battle of cartel vs cartel vs the government with more twists than anything Hollywood can think of.

>>34239564
>>34239589
Manuel Torres Félix
El M1
El Ondeado

"According to the United States Department of the Treasury, Torres Félix got public attention on 18 April 2008 when rival members of the Beltrán-Leyva Cartel assassinated his son Atanasio Torres Acosta in an ambush attack, injuring his daughter Alondra (aged 4) and sister-in-law Sandra Rivas Heredia (aged 24).At the crime scene, the gunmen left a written message on the behalf of Arturo Beltrán Leyva:

"On behalf of your friend [Arturo] and his nephews Los Zetas. So you can understand, Manuel Torres."

With the death of his son, Torres Félix reportedly "went crazy" and took revenge of the perpetrators by torturing them in his home.According to police reports, the death of Anastasio marked the beginning of the cartel war in the state of Sinaloa.Torres Félix became one of the most dangerous drug traffickers in Sinaloa; hundreds of deaths were attributed to the commandos led by Torres Félix, who earned the pseudonym of "El Ondeado" ('The Crazy One') for his emotional instability that started after the death of Anastasio."

>>34239720
>>34239733
How old is that kid, like 12?

>>34239738
Can't remember the exact source but IIRC he was 14 when he was killed.

>>34239589
>Also, what is it that makes the cartels interesting?
I think actual combat experience is the main draw here.

>>34239766
That's just saddening

>>34239806
This is from 2009 in Reynosa.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Jag1RMi2E4

>>34239661
That's some hollywood shit right there mane

>>34239505
How long would I have to work for a cartel to get 5.7mm SS190? Seems better than fighting for the faggot YPG.

>>34239709
I remember watching this video a few years back. Apparently the guy being shot at was a security guard at a gated community. The guys in the truck shooting aren't even cartel members, they were just joy riding, killing people.

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>>34239859
"What happened next has been written about by all and sundry, “El Ondeado” previously showed symptoms of being a psychopath. Given his past behavior this is quite credible concerning Manuel Torres Felix, and the death of his son must of driven him over the edge, or did it? “El Tachio” had been involved in drug trafficking from a young age, and as a male Torres Felix he probably had little other choice than to follow his father and uncle into drug trafficking. “El Tachio” knew the risks, was considered a CDS operative, and so his death at the hands of rivals or the police or armed services was a specified risk. As is evidenced by the last list in this article.

The same goes for the death of Joaquin Guzman’s son at the hands of the BLO, he was a CDS operative. However, the sister of “El Tachio”, Alondra 4 years of age, was shot in the right forearm the bullet exited her arm and embedded itself into her shoulder, she later had her right forearm amputated. One could argue that this attack on a female child of his family, whose innocence is incontestable, actually pushed him over the edge, and turned his psychopathic condition into one with psychosis."

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>>34239966
"That could explain the complete and utter butchering rampage that he went on a few days after the attack on his son and her sister. He sent out, word has it, all of the Sicario’s at his disposal to round up anyone from the BLO or Zetas, and anyone who was deemed to give them support, kidnap them and take them to his ranch, where “El Ondeado” gave vent to his psychosis and sadistically and cruelly tortured everyone rounded up, before killing them.

One of his victims was the municipal police commander Roberto Carlos Barcelo Villagran, who had his back sliced to ribbons with knives, his legs cut off and then his head cut off while he was still alive, his body was dumped with two others in the trunk of a car.

His Sicarios started dumping bodies all over Culiacan, mostly all dismembered with harrowing signs of torture, mostly the dismemberment’s happening while they were still alive.

....those who couldn’t be captured for torture were shot or burnt alive:.... some sources quote the death toll for this week at over 200."

I hate these motherfuckers so much.

GR: Wildlands IRL when?

>>34239505
when is trump gonna declare war on mexico?

>>34239931
Actually the guys in the truck were 'El Comandante Diablo' and his men. They were from CDG. Later on in the video they kill a halcone and a small time drug dealer of the Zetas

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Does this count?

>>34240108
Since they are patrolling what appears to be either the Rio Grande or Falcon lake, might as well post it.

>>34240109
I'd let her confiscate me for drugs any day

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>>34240198
Some more for you.

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Autodefensas

>>34240223
Okay, riddle me this: why are they hot, and look competent? You don't see that in the states

>>34240287
Guess they actually have physical standards in Mexico and if they aren't competent, they will be dead in short order.

>>34239845
fucking nuts for sure.

>>34240347
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpwBXtcWmzA

Is there really any hope for Mexico at this point?

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I find it incredible how brazen these guys are. Out in the open, totally displaying their affiliation. It's amazing. In the US, you can get pulled over for openly showing outlaw type gang affiliation. Mexico is the wild west.

>>34240431
They can just relinquish control over to the US, and we'll clean it up in two years, provided libs don't get in the way

>>34240431
Until the people decide to take up arms and the government quits pretending to be combating this shit, no.

Also, it won't stop until we start fucking with their livelihood. I'm talking destroying all the product we can find, destroying their mansions, safehouses, labs, and storage sites, and creating sheer chaos within the cartel. We gotta start making some of these jefes "disappear" and end up at what is totally not a CIA blacksite.

http://www.leoaffairs.com/news/kidnapped-border-patrol-agent-found-side-road-fingers-cut-off/

I want to remind everyone that the cartels are a very real danger to the US. And there are people here who actually believe in not securing the southern border.

>>34240454
>They can just relinquish control over to the US, and we'll clean it up in two years, provided libs don't get in the way

You post this anywhere the actions in mexico are seriously followed and they will laugh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=888qHoAO-O4

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>>34240500

>>34240530
That's a hell of a grouping.

>>34240544
I have a few more pics like that. Those are the work of real sicarios, ex military or police.

>>34240431
fascism

>>34240568
I'm well aware of the lethality of their hitmen. They do it for a living, just like the guys we have to stop them.

I've heard that there are jihadis training these guys.

If that doesn't worry people, I don't know what will.

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>ywn be part of a joint CIA/JSOC/DOJ operation to kill the leader of a major Mexican cartel

>>34240607
no jihadis need be involved. Training has been primarily provided by ex Mexican military, Guatemalan Kaibiles, perhaps an odd mercenary or two and lately, word has been that some FARC types are there as well.

A few actually get training here in the US. They are Military or Police but the reality is that they are narcos.

>>34240684
Good luck. the last known photos of Mayo Zambada for example, are about 20 years old IIRC

>>34240697
I watched a documentary that had former sicarios interviewed, and they claimed they had AQAP dudes teaching them lessons learned while fighting Americans.

>>34240684
How do I get into the shooty bits of the CIA? I don't care about super secret intel. I just wanna kill some brown people

>>34240724
My best advice is get a degree, become an officer, go special forces, get a top secret clearance, keep your nose clean, make friends with people in the intelligence field, get some combat experience, and then seek out a CIA recruiter. Your choices (that I know of) are SAD (Special Activities Division) which is basically deep cover operating. Like we're talking dying your skin darker using tea, becoming fluent in a language and totally suppressing your accent, coloring the iris of your eyes, dying your hair, all that shit.

Your other choice is GRS (Global Response Service) which is more of a private security deal. If you've seen 13 Hours, you'll know what I'm talking about. If not, imagine PMCs with TS clearances, heavily armed, guarding CIA sites. To get into that, I recommend getting into SF as well. GRS, if I'm not mistaken, is considerably easier to get into than SAD, since SAD requires you to gather intel and operate, whereas GRS basically requires you to be a very proficient trigger puller who gives a fuck about OPSEC.

>>34240720
Ask yourself why they would need lessons from AQAP when their own ranks contain members that have far more extensive experience battling other enemy cartel cells as well as Federal police, Mexican Army and Mexican Marines?

See the guy on the right? One of Chapo Guzman's top operators. He died in bed having had some 40 years experience as a narco.

PS- I forgot his name.
>>34239680

>>34240785
It's not necessarily that they would need them, but more of a thing where I'm sure they pay a pretty penny to get guys to instruct who have real life experience fighting special operations guys.

Other than fighting the cartels, the Mexican military (who regularly get BTFO'd by sicarios) have practically zero experience fighting an actual war.

The cartels need to know how to combat regular, conventional forces and jihadis have been doing that for nearly two decades.

>>34240807
To expand on that, the cartels want to know how to fight against Americans. Fighting US special forces or elite law enforcement is definitely different than fighting the Mexican authorities. There's a reason nobody hears about how effective their SF is.

>>34240776
Whelp. I guess it's time I finish my degree.

>>34240785
>>34240807
>>34240839
Honestly I'm not really trying to debate as to why they might want jihadis training their dudes. I'm just sharing some knowledge I have.

>>34240861
I believe in you, anon.

>>34240807
>(who regularly get BTFO'd by sicarios

Actually it's the other way around. Cartel types typically hit and run against military units unless they seriously outnumber them. El Ondeado from higher up in the thread? He was killed in a shootout with the army. As a matter of fact, quite a number of capos and cell leaders have met their deaths via the military.

>>34240861
Go for it, seriously

>>34240890
I'm not saying that they get BTFO'd more often than not, I'm just saying that it happens. Cartels have more firepower than people would believe. They shoot down helicopters, blow up armored vehicles, shit like that.

>>34240938
I understand. Yes a lot of people really don't have a clue as to how armed to the teeth they are. Also how tweaked or coked out of their minds a lot of the lower ranks are on a regular basis.

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>>34240431
the problem is The United States Government mainly the CIA and DEA.

You wouldn't have a drug/gun problem if you just legalize drugs and put less restrictions on Mexican citizens owning firearms.

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Precursor chemicals for meth production. Total seizure was 500 tons

>>34239696
Sexy

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>>34241021

>>34240611
>all those brains spilling out

F U C K

>>34241118
I'll see if i can find the closeups.

>>34240611
context?

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Would an operation like what was portrayed in Sicario work? What would it look like? What would the ramifications be? Do we think there are similar operations happening?

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>>34241118
Here it is.

>>34241178
Holy shit. What the fuck happened?

>>34239511
Holy fuck that fucking rifle is nearly the same size as that fucker.

>>34240975
I think the best hope is just to give civilians guns and have everyone OC/CC
Good luck operating anywhere with people now, cartels

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>>34241168
Gulf Cartel (CDG) sicarios that were part of a larger group in a series of shootouts in Matamoros. They were being chased by the army and ran virtually head on to a patrol which promptly shot them dead.

>>34241195
5.56mm round through the back of the head.

>>34241244
That'll do it.

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>>34241262

>>34241225
imagine being on the receiving end.

>>34241282
Sucks to be them.

So does anyone else feel the desire to do something about the cartels the more they learn about them? I'm honestly thinking about trying to go CBP or another elite LE group so I can punch some holes in some narcos.

>>34239505
Have worked with Mexican federal police and municipal police in Tijuana and Cuidad Juarez. There was some gruesome ass shit. Worse than what I saw overseas. Body parts in the middle of the streets, bodies hanging from bridges or in front of daycare/kindergarten, bodikes burnt to a crisp, fingers and dicks mailed to loved ones. Fucking mad. The cartels are mostly poor youths with little to no training, they just give them a gun, some money and tell them who to kill. Most of these kids will die within a year or two, believing that they'll make songs about them for whatever cartel shot they did. But no one is safe from it, the cartels always know where you are. There was this guy who was a rat in Tijuana and they killed him, his immediate family and even some cousins.
When insane the movie Sicairo I thought it was a fucking joke, Hollywood could never really capture what's going on down there.
Worst thing I ever heard was a kidnapped family of a Federal Police officer, they got his new born baby and ran it over in front of him while they raped his wife. They let him go and let killed himself

>>34241202
The would be a problem for the CIA and it's drug money operation.

Build the wall.

>>34241340
This.

>>34241330
My goodness...

Can I ask what you did down there?

>>34241320
I'm wondering how did the Drug Cartel get so big in the first place? and which countries fund them?

>>34239505
>airsoft neoprene facemask
>yankees baseball cap
>quad rail gas block
What a fucking joke

>>34241330
All here is very true. that is why i would never consider watching that sicario movie. I couldn't take it serious for 2 seconds. One of my coworkers years ago was a former Federale who would tell stories of futility and frustration dealing with narcos. Finally he said to hell with it and got on the payroll, was arrested, bribes his way out of prison and came up here to the US.

>>34241320
>So does anyone else feel the desire to do something about the cartels the more they learn about them?
Yep. Partially because what they do is horrifying, and needs to be stopped, but also because when I look at this, I see a way I can be beneficial to my country

>>34241367
The United States, with it's massive fucking substance abuse problem.

>>34241367
There's a conspiracy with some pretty solid evidence that China is routing opiates from Afghanistan to Central America in order to destabilize the region so they can put in socialist governments and eventually have communist countries in the US's backyard.

You can see how Taliban opium+communism+illegal immigration can be a huge security concern. Just one of the theories out there.

All I know is that there are international figures at play, and that it goes to the highest echelons of society. There are billionaires taking money to these people and corporations with their cargo ships and planes bringing this shit into the US and elsewhere.

So how well do the militas do against the cartels?

>>34241367
It's a very long story. Here is one of the most important figures in it;s history.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmGML947iXs

>>34241421
>>34241431
Not just the US, senpai. Canada loves its weed. Where do you think they keep getting that shit from? Or where they got it in the first place?

>>34241330
Holy shit

>>34239551
>that middle kid
Am I just getting old or is he 15??

Fuckin spics man, making kids fight for your drug money...

>>34241436
Not very, I'd imagine.

>>34241436
Quite well considering the odds. it also depends which cartel types and where the location is.

>>34241463
>that USAS
goddamn

>>34241440
thanks for the link

>>34241431
BIG IF TRUE

>>34241451
Some cells are made up entirely of teenagers. One a few years ago was led by a 12 year old.

>>34241466
Motivation to protect your family and community is one hell of a thing.

>>34239806
>combat experience
Pretty much why I like it.

I love the idea of militias/civilians fighting. And cartels are as close as you're gonna get to American militias or civs fighting it out.

I like seeing how they gear up without militery regulations and just have what they want/need.

Then I live out my red dawn fantasies in my head while stroking my penis

>>34241363
Private security, I was armed, mostly dealt with high end clients. Can't tell you who but they payed top dollar for US Vets >>34241409
Theres futility on both sides. Imagine being a broke ass kid who didn't graduate high school and some macho motherfucker with a gun tells you he'll pay you to hold a gun and kill a motherfucker. Now imagine being a broke as fuck kid that barely graduated High school and the government pays you next to nothing to fight other kids who know who you are and where your mom goes to mass. I always heard stories of guys getting killed by their partners because they were paid off or crooked. You can literally not trust anyone

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>>34241367
>I'm wondering how did the Drug Cartel get so big in the first place? and which countries fund them?

>>34241491
I don't want it to be true but it honestly wouldn't surprise me.

>>34241516
You have my dream job, anon. Do they like Marines?

>>34239733
>operating
>killing your fellow man
>not even old enough to slam some pussy
Jesus Christ

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>>34240319
this, and mexico has a tradition of soldier women going as far as a century ago with the "Adelitas"

>>34241519
F A S T A N D F U R I O U S

>>34241516
Goddamn. That's fucked.

>>34241516
Oh yeah, been hearing about that for years. It's a no win situation no matter what.

>>34241553
Read up a bit on that.
That was an absolute shitshow and I'm flabbergasted that they thought it wouldn't bite them in the ass.

>>34241367
>and which countries fund them?
the one they sell drugs to?

>>34239845
>continuing to report as you lower yourself to the ground and embrace Death
That reporter had balls of steel.

>>34241567
I think they knew.

I don't think they cared.

Read about Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry.

>>34241442
I seriously hope your weed doesn't come from mexico

>>34241581
Read that bit too and it's just blows me away about how stupid the whole thing was.

>>34241553
Which was minor league compared to the real sources of weapons, mainly corrupt military and police.

Even Heckler and Koch was selling weapons there illegally

>>34241598
https://www.drugscience.org/Archive/bcr4/5Supply.html

Unless I'm stupid and can't read, to my understanding approximately 50% of pot in the US is imported.

You can guess where that probably would be from.

>>34239984
>note to self
If ever chased and almost captured by Mexicans. Shoot self in face at edge of a tall building.

BECAUSE FUCK THAT SHIT!!!!

>>34241579
That is true professional dedication.

>>34241538
Honestly man I'd advise against it. I was out of the army for two years, my platoon buddy asked me if I wanted to join because I spent all my cash.
But to answer your question: yes. They'll really take anyone with any military experience. Met Marines and Army guys alike, even some POG Navy guy who didn't last long. Like he couldn't handle what we did and quit after 3 months.
If your Spanish is good they'll pay extra

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Mexican army ambushed by cartel

>>34241605
>>34241606
Yep. He died thanks to corruption.

You right. Sauce on the HK shit?

>>34240080
hola mami

>>34241598
That locally grown, organic, hydrowhatevered sativa hybrid your dealer is peddling probably actually came from a cartel-owned grow house in Mexico and funds unspeakable violence.

>>34241610
gross

>>34240319
>>34240287
Or raped.

Definitely raped.

>>34241623
Here's one of several.

http://www.insightcrime.org/news-analysis/how-german-firearms-ended-up-at-the-mexico-student-massacre

>>34241622
Damn.
>>34241621
I speak okay Spanish. Enough to tell someone to put their hands up, drop their gun, and comer mi culo. I'm just exploring options for when I get out. I appreciate the advice though, brother.

>>34241630
nah you can tell if its been bagged up for shipping

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>>34241340
as a mexican i agree to this sentiment, its only going to elevate the conflict. but might as well make things reach pass the boiling point. we might even get a revolution

>>34240431
Ironically Mexico is doing fairly well for a latin american country, as their economy has boomed and is threatening to overtake Brazil.

There's a reason they still have some money to buy all those drugs and have the cartels armed with some serious hardware.

Given that they are one of the biggest warzones aside from Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan, that's pretty impressive.

>>34241630
>>34241632
Yep. He's right. Nearly all of your drugs come from horrific organizations like the cartels.
>>34241642
Interesting. Gonna do some researching.

>>34241612
Seriously, to be captured is a fate many times worse than death.

>>34241649
Poor dudes.

>>34241650
Keep believing whatever you need to.

>>34241663
Fuck man. Fucking animals.

>>34240483
>planning to become LEO soon
>dream job is us marshal or border patrol
>this scares me
I think I'd kill myself before I let them take me... Jesus Christ

>>34240473
Isnt Guantanamo shut down?

>>34241698
I know dude. Same. Keep a round for yourself or be ready to die fighting.

>>34241655
Stay safe, taco.

>>34241706
I don't think so.

Also

>imblyign there aren't dozens more that just aren't spoken about

>>34241698
But then your family doesnt get that sweet pension

>>34241645
I'm Mexican American so I could talk to everyone. Even the guys who knew taco bell Spanish picked up a lot of Spanish while working there.
Pros:
Good money
Lots of hot women 24/7
Good food
Travel

Cons:
Death
Unspeakable crimes of humanity
Everyone is corrupt, especially the guy that hires you
Banging too much whores will give you the clap
You'll learn to trust no one, not even the guy next to you

Imagine being in a firefight and not knowing if the guy next to you is crooked and paid for

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>>34241663
This is one of my biggest irrational fears ever. I never get to close in traffic and avoid roads with high traffic and stoplights just for this reason.

>>34240611
>face blown clean off
fucking hell

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are there any of the REMOVE TACO spics still active down there or did the government disarm them all

>>34241612
"“They were brought handcuffed behind
the back to the death house
where they found thirty-six bodies,”
he rolls on. “A T-shirt was soaked with
gasoline and put on their backs, lit,
and then after a while pulled from their
backs. The skin came off with it. Both
men made sounds like cattle being
killed. They were injected with a drug
so they would not lose consciousness.
Then they put alcohol on their testicles
and lit them. They jumped so
high—they were handcuffed and still
I never saw people jump so high.”
We are slipping now, all the
masks have fallen to the floor. The
veteran, the professional sicario, is
walking me through a key assignment
he completed.
“Their backs were like leather and
did not bleed. They put plastic bags
on their heads to smother them and
then revived them with alcohol under
their noses.

“All they ever said to us was, ‘We
will see you in hell.’
“This went on for three days. They
smelled terrible because of the burns.
They brought in a doctor to keep reviving
them. They wanted them to
live one more day. After a while they
defecated blood. They shoved broomsticks
up their asses.
“The second day a person came and
told them, ‘I warned you this was going
to happen.’
“They said, ‘Kill us.’
“The guys lived three days. The doctor
kept injecting them to keep them
alive and he had to work hard. Eventually
they died of the torture.
“They never asked God for help.
They just kept saying, ‘We will see you
in hell.’
“I buried them with their faces down
and poured on a whole lot of lime.”
He is excited. It is all back.
He can feel the shovel in
his hand."

http://www.tomfeiling.com/archive/Harpersmagazinesicariostory.pdf

How does the US even exist with such a lawless country to its south?

>>34241734
That scares me. I feel like a US Marine would carry a heavy bounty down there, not to try and talk myself up. It's just the stigma.

Shit sounds sketchy as fuck, fampai.

>>34240785
>See the guy on the right? One of Chapo Guzman's top operators.

According to the file name that's his dad.

>>34241734
>Imagine being in a firefight and not knowing if the guy next to you is crooked and paid for
Honestly, that sounds worse than being stationed in the middle east. At least there, you can trust the guy to let you take a shit

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>>34241656
If mexico was free from its corrupt goverment, and subsequently its narco problem, it would be a major global power.
even losing over 80% of its wealth to corruption its still figures as an important country in the G-20
no one want mexico to be great, it would be too troublesome

>>34241742
Can anyone tell what the sings say?

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>>34241734
>Imagine being in a firefight and not knowing if the guy next to you is crooked and paid for
Fuck that shit.

>>34241770
the narco problem won't go away until it stops being profitable for criminals to export drugs to America

And no, a fucking wall isn't going to stop them.

>>34241763
File name was narco humor.

>>34241771
This happened to them for supporting the CDG [Gulf cartel]

>>34241753
You'd think that, but those tickets shooting at you know you're better trained than they are. They're no better trained than Haj but are probably drunk or high
>>34241765
>>34241782
This is why I always felt comfortable working with other vets. Usually the guys who were into drugs were the ones who were crooked

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>>34241808
Message from CDG to los Zetas

>>34241746
It's one of our biggest problems. Mexicans coming here is our version of Europe's refugee crisis. That's why The Wall is such a powerful concept

>>34241320
Yes.

I plan to become LEO soon with sights on becoming border patrol. I love my country. I love my state.

These savages need keeping the fuck out.

>>34241809
Fuck, just look at all those P90s

>>34241817
Sorry, fucking autocorrect on my phone

Kids not tickets

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>>34241783
>the narco problem won't go away until it stops being profitable for criminals to export drugs to America
The drug traffic problem its pretty much a global problem, but if the production and transport of drugs becomes too difficult due to an actual working government keeping poverty low and effectively fighting against narcotrafic. druglords will look for better alternatives, after all there's the rest of sudamerica to produce and transport by sea its a pretty big deal with narcotics

>And no, a fucking wall isn't going to stop them.
machete kills already showed how it isn't going to work

>>34241809
>gold and silver plated pistols
wouldn't be a weapons bust without them

>>34241770
That logic applies to so many of the other latin American countries as well, if they managed to industrialize and grow like the US did.

Hell back in the early 20th century or late 19th century, there was talk of Brazil and Argentina being major rivals to the United States.

Its just a real shame honestly. A real missed opportunity.

>>34241818
sign says "keep sending retards like these"

>>34241822
Agreed. See you out there.

>>34239896
And you'd get paid. As a bonus you'd only be shooting other cartel scum and probably corrupt federales. Unless you're the lucky one that's ordered to kill groups of school kids, but there's enough evidence that that was the military anyways.

>>34241367
Heroin, and then cocaine in the late 70s/early 80s, and then in the 90s-2000s, counter-cartel cartels like Los Zetas. They're all constantly shifting alliances with each other, buying each other off and then killing each other until the end of the world. As for funding, it rather obviously comes from drugs and hits on rival cartels and their associates. They get their guns either from stealing or self-manufacturers, generally. They do also get some money from corrupt politicians, policemen, and the like.

>>34241817
Fuck man. Sounds shitty. Did you supply your own gear? I have plenty of my own that I'd probably rather use.

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>>34241822
>>34241859
Let's do it

>>34241504
That's depressing AF

>>34241885
S T E V E

>>34240431
Back a few years ago, the general population went full ham against the knights templar cartel in Micochan or however it's spelled.

The cartel leader was in an embassy pissing himself, the other cartels were avoiding that province like the plague, and the government was changing its underwear because the entire country was on the brink of an insurrection.

They have hope, it's just that they won't go the full nine yards.

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>>34241885

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>>34241880

>>34241894
this

I'm kind of surprised it hasn't happened, Mexicans are super patriotic, you'd think they'd want their country to stop sucking cock.

All I can guess is that starting a revolution in the middle of what's already a civil war is pants-shittingly terrifying.

The face of the enemy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuhJEACHkeM

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>>34241909

>>34241431
You are a complete and utter fucking idiot

>>34239984
>El Ondeado
Don't forget to add that the Mexican military caught up to him and shot him to death.

I found this.
https://youtu.be/WPe-mR1W0b0
>destroying M2s
Also,
https://youtu.be/YEoa3YUnFSA

>>34241910
Everyone is super-patriotic except for a few really rich, really decadent countries. It has no bearing on the actual state of the country

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>>34241622

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the situation is worse since cartel hired some ex special forces from this group to be hitmen

>>34241650
I can guarantee you can't. Feautureless Ziploc bags and orange pill bottles with your dealer's shitty handwriting on them won't let you know where it came from.

>>34241809
Look at all the meme guns.

>>34241920
Chill out, dick. I didn't come up with it.

>>34241330
>they got his new born baby and ran it over in front of him while they raped his wife. They let him go and let killed himself

That 's pretty dark.

>>34241945
they got training from French GIGN, Israeli Sayeret and American Green Berets

>>34239826

Kek, no it's not.

>>34241876
Most of the time I ended up buying my own shit in San Diego or El Paso, but they paid very well so it was never a problem. I had a license to import firearms for my job that the government gave me. Usually had my CZ 97 on a drop leg and an LMT, sometimes if I was working with Federal Police I got to play with their toys like the G3, MP5, and Galil.

>>34240439
dat cross draw tazer

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>>34241959
There's a reason Mexican police and military wear balaclavas+sunglasses when patrolling in the cities or cartel heavy areas.
They are quite relentless when it comes to dealing with cartel members. Pic related.

>>34241975
Nice. I'm guessing you're not gonna give out contact info on here.

>>34241924
Thanks, i posted about it here
>>34240890

>>34241980
It's pretty standard, desu.

>>34241197
>>34239511
mexicants are manlets

>>34240029

Not soon enough.

>>34240607
>I've heard that there are jihadis training these guys
Probably more effective if it went the other way around. Cartel soldiers are probably better soldiers than most jihadi dumbfucks.

>>34241716
For real. It's not enough fear to stop be following my dumbass dreams.

But I'd keep an extra round or some shit in my pocket.

>>34241809
Ever seen the pic of the Zetas with the MG42?

>>34241945
Yes, the original Zetas were a new era in the narco world. Of the first 30 IIRC 10-12 were GAFE, the rest were mainly Light and Motorized Infantry, one was an MP and one was administrative type, i forgot the MOS.

>>34241983
Sadly I can't. It's kinda one of those things they come to you for. It's a Mexican company based in Mexico City. If you have a wife and kids, don't do it

>>34242011
some were mexican special forces before they became cartel

>>34242011
Probably. But whatever.
>>34242020
Same famalam.

>>34242036
I'm single. I'll look around.

>>34242011
Surprisingly, they can be on par with each other both in terms of inadequacy and conversely effectiveness. Some cartel members are vaqueros who learned how to shoot and take care of themselves on a basic level, like the small amount of jihadis that are or are trained by mujahideen fighters. Converse to this, both the cartels and jihadis employ children and teenagers, who more than often prove to be little more than zip-guns for assassination or intimidation.

>>34241553
why would anyone trust the ATF after that

>>34241728
kek

But in that situation, fuck the money bruh, I'll end it on my own terms. Not screaming in agony in some cartel barn

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any mexibro with news of my boi deadpool?

>>34242055
>trusting the ATF in the first place

Wew lad

>>34241735
I live in Houston, it's not so much of an irrational fear hear.

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>>34241945
Highly recommend this book for anyone wanting to know about how the Zetas came into being and why Mexico exploded in recent years.

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>>34242059

>>34241741
Jesus fuck... these fucking animals need to be wiped out

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>>34241367

>>34241838
>dude this rad movie

I grew up in Arizona. The Mexicans (shut the fuck up with your Mexican-American bullshit, they are proud of where they are from, unlike you) were never a problem until California completed their border wall. Then, it changed from occasional vatos shooting up each other to business killings. The man without a face and hands was a business killing. Somebody post the webm.

So, the state adjacent built a wall, and then a Mexican changed from an honest, hard worker whose children might shoot someone in an honorable gang fight to a potential cartel member.

Tell me again how walls don't work.

And California was blue.

>>34241656
Mexico will be USA's only real problem in the future, the war on drugs is a necessary evil to keep Mexico Weak. Who controls North America controls the world. I want the United States of America to control North America not Mexico.. a weak Mexico is a good thing if you're American. And don't come to me with any hippy dippy bullshit if you don't understand geopolitics or are a traitor to USA.

>>34239800
>>34239817
But please, ms. Feinstein, tell me again how Mexico has great gun laws

>>34241859
>>34241885
Agreed. Soon my brothers.

I'd apply today but you need to be US Citizen. I'm a Brit on a green card. Start the Citizen process end of this year since the 5year wait period is up.

Day I'm a citizen I'm applying to the academy.

If you ever find yourself with a bong with a Union Jack tattoo on his right forearm, it's me.

America has been VERY good to me. It's time I return the favor.

>>34242124
She said that shit?

>>34242125
Damn, anon. I really admire that.

I hope to see you out there one day. I'll have your six.

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>>34242096
Heriberto Lazcano Lazcano
Z-3
El Lazca
El Verdugo

"Lazcano made a name for himself by decapitating his victims, putting them in acid baths, and for torturing and killing hundreds of people.
When punishing victims, Lazcano became known for using a torture method known as "La Paleta" ('The Popsicle'), in which victims were stripped naked and brutally beaten with a board. A reporter also recalls that Lazcano reportedly tied a man to a tree and beat him until he broke his legs, and then left him tied to the tree for two or three days until he died. According to the Mexican authorities, Lazcano owned a ranch with several lions and tigers, which he used to get rid of his victims.Lazcano also used effective intimidation kills to keep his subordinates in check. He reportedly dumped his victims (or their children) in large barrels of boiling oil. When he found out that some of his men were stealing from him, Lazcano would force one of them to watch while his henchmen grabbed a 2-by-4 and beat the other to death. When they were dead, the executioner would then cut out the victim's heart (Lazcano threw the organs away, but other drug lords have forced their guests to eat the organs of the victims).Lazcano also pioneered the decapitation techniques that Los Zetas now employ, and protected witnesses have said that Lazcano would let captured rivals starve to death because he liked to watch the process or that he would let them be eaten by wild animals"

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>>34241734
seems like the Cons outweigh the Pros. Why would any take this offer painting a target for themselves for the rest of their life?

>>34241740
Guy in your pic ended up being a scumbag

>>34241740
You can still own firearms but it's heavily restrict

>>34242125
Outstanding Sir!
Drive On!

>>34242135
Till the end brother.

>>34241765
Unless you're on a joint op with locals, plenty of instances especially in the 'stan where Afghani Army killed Americans.

>>34241819
NAFTA can attribute to that.

>>34242166
how so?

>>34242149
Yeah, ok, can we just turn Mexico into glass??

>>34242171
When you grew up in a liberal island that's gone to shit and our children get blown apart at pop shows? It's an easy choice to make my man.

The freedoms and rights you guys have are second to none. I'll die before I give them up. At 27 I'm too old for the militery in any effective role. So I'll fight a closer enemy.

Glad you guys are so welcoming, look forward to doing you proud anon!

>>34241436
They were doing pretty well iirc, till the govt infiltrated the militias to enforce its duopoly on violence.
Not good to have an armed populace when more than half of it would love to see most politicians go to jail.

Americans could learn what a world with strict gun laws looks like by taking a trip down south...

>>34241818
>Los Zetas

Weren't the founders train by the CIA?

>>34241630
All the stuff we get here is grown in Colorado or BC then shipped to my state.

>>34241244
designed to wound.

>>34242223
Sure thing dude

>>34241822
Have some encouragement anon

>http://www.leoaffairs.com/news/kidnapped-border-patrol-agent-found-side-road-fingers-cut-off/

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This pic from the 90s is an American.

David Barron aka Popeye aka El CH was a Barrio Logan Heights gang member and also member of the Mexican Mafia (La Eme)

He went down to Tijuana and hooked up with the CAF and became a top shooter and enforcer. He was killed by a ricochet fired by one of his own guys as he was walking up to finish off a newspaper editor they just ambushed.

>>34242241
Posted that earlier. All the more reason to plug these fucks.

>>34242243
Heard about this. That gang isn't very active anymore, thank God.

>>34242222
A few of the originals were trained by among others, US Special Forces. See further down in the thread

>>34241875
How many politicians have been assassinated while in office? Seems like politics in Mexico would be a big gamble

>>34241244
>5.56mm round through the back of the head

Not a meme round after all.

>>34242222
Trained by people who were trained by American Special Forces and Mossad. The founders of the Zetas were ex-Mexican SF.

>>34242254
The neighborhood began gentrifying over time.

>>34242241
Yeah, I'll join their ranks no question. If they'll have me.

Fuck these savages!!

>>34242257
I don't know for sure myself, but it's not an uncommon occurrence in Mexico and SouthAmerica.

>>34242266
San Diego PD really quit fucking around and got aggressive with them. The gang problem is much lesser than what it used to be.

>>34242149
. . . .

>>34242257
A partial list
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_politicians_killed_in_the_Mexican_Drug_War

>>34242166

Seems to me like that guy is an example of why autocracy will always fail. Listen to some of his early speeches, he was humble as fuck and his principles would've made Jefferson proud. However, he:
-did not establish a reliable way to propagate the constitutoonalist ideology without him
- did not formulate a system to avoid corruption due to personal greed
- eventually became corrupted by his status and power.
To top it off, his less-principled subordinates took over when the govt shot down his plane. The movement got infiltrates by govt agents and went to shit.

A tragic story of freedom nipped in the bud.

Funny how my internet is always slow when posting on political threads...

>>34242255
thanks for the clarification.

>>34242283
thanks

>>34242129
Tbh I can't quote her precisely, but most libs masturbate at the thought of mexican-style gun laws where there is a single gun store in the entire could try run by the govt. If you doubt me, Google it and see all the stories on it by american news outlets.

Funny how the same news outlets will quietly remove Latin america from their statistics when they want to argue that gun laws work.

>>34242151
I seriously doubt they could find me now. If I still lived in Texas maybe. But in the US it's a completely different ball game. The police aren't corrupt, murders are investigated, I know literally everyone in my town. If someone saw another Mexican or something, someone would let me know

But that job gave me the financial stability to do what I want, have a family, live where I want, and shoot what I want

>>34242275
Had a guy i knew was from one of their rival gangs. Word on the street was that if he mainly recruited his homeboys but was willing to forgive and forget rivals if they showed promise.

He was hooked with another Eme member from San Diego named Jose Marquez aka Bat.

http://www.streetgangs.com/billboard/viewtopic.php?t=42667

>>34241992
I was pointing it out because I like it, not criticizing it.

>>34242372
This is from Brazil. This guy killed a drug dealers brother and was stuck with a knife for every year of the brother's life.

>>34242332
I wish you good luck then. I'm basically paranoid about this type of stuff.

>>34242204
He abused his power, alienated most of his followers, the autodefensias he was in charge of basically fell apart, he got arrested for being a vigilante and pretty immediately turned 180 and said he was sorry for disrespecting the government of Mexico, said he and his men would lay down their arms, he went everywhere with his wife and put on a facade but was banging some girl younger than his kids, and he is/was a suspect in a quadruple homicide.

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Result of an army raid on a Zetas training camp

>>34242213
If what you're saying isn't talk, you have my respect, friend

OP here. Can someone archive this?

>>34242372
Jesus fuck

Where can I find a rundown of what's going on cartel-wise in Mexico right now?

>>34242487
Borderland Beat

Blog de Narco

>>34242487
Also Insightcrime

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>>34242456
Already done

http://archive.is/38m3r

>>34242505
Thanks.