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What is mercury used for in the weapons industry? Particularly in the past century.
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>>34234002
mercury fulminate, primer.
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>>34234002
setting off bomb
and for automation
https://www.google.ch/patents/US5224551?utm_source=gb-gplus-sharePatent
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Would a mercury oil/grease/lube make sense?.... I have the weirdest erection over energy based weapons right now.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inch_of_mercury
its also used for measurement of pressure
http://www.messenger-education.org/instruments/mla.php
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>>34234023
when did they stop doing this?
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>>34234002

I'm pretty sure its just a baseless idea, but I'm reading The Day of the Jackal, and the assassin has just been sold custom ammo where the bullets have been hollowed out and a small amount of mercury added into the void. The idea is that on impact the mercury would rush forward and "explode like a grenade".
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>>34234049
Probably about the same time they realized the powder from an explosive charge could be accidentally inhaled and lead to serious medical problems.
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>>34234002
Red mercury is used for making nuclear weapons, stealth planes, and Assault Rifle 15s.
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>>34234054
Is this mercury explosive in nature? It would just be a heavy liquid thrown at high velocities, right?
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>>34234062
>blue
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>>34234105
>Is this mercury explosive in nature?
No.
>It would just be a heavy liquid thrown at high velocities, right?
Correct.

Also it doesn't actually work.
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>>34234105

Yeah I'm pretty sure its written as just plain mercury, not some explosive compund.
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>>34234031
>. I have the weirdest erection over energy based weapons right now.
This is so fucking cringe. You don't have any friends in school, do you.
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>>34234031
>Would literal poison make a good lubricant for something you hold up to your face and touch for hours on end every day?

You tell me, Einstein.
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>>34234115
Would the ballistic properties be pants-on-head retarded or would it fly like any other round?

Would there be a purpose at all in doing that?
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>>34234270
>>34234252
Whelp I guess if you don't already know we have mercury based lubricants you would say that...
>one anon goes off about depressed gundam fanboys
>other anon goes off talking about having actual skin contact with mercury
Neither of you are that smart, are ya?
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>>34234049
When anti-lead ROHS bullshit became popular and all heavy metals became too scary for California.
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>>34234281
If you drop a bucket of water on someone from 5 feet above it slaps them okay.

If you drop a bucket of water on someone from 30 feet above it becomes a heavy rain, any higher and it is a sprinkle.

You'd have to be 1920s Tesla deathray particle beam velocities to do anything with liquid mercury.
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>>34234319
If you eat onions (sulfur) skin contact with mercury and lead is literally a non issue unless you are trying to poison yourself with overexposure.
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>>34234252
>in school

IT'S SUMMER TIME
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>>34234054
The only benefit I could see of this is if you don't get a killing shot then the victim could die of mercury poisoning. But I'd wager there are more efficient substances you could put in a bullet
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>>34234002
My grandfather told me that him and his friends would shine up their pocket change by rubbing mercury on the coins before going out on Saturday night. He's still alive. Eighty-eight years old. Mostly sits in the corner and drools though.
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>>34234542
that's because they likely didn't inhale any of it
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>>34234542
>would shine up their pocket change
that's how punk kids would pass off pennies as dimes.
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>>34234362

Mercury is literally 13.5 times as heavy as water. Please re-evaluate your idiotic statement.
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>>34234520
>>34234054
I suppose a dense liquid like mercury would fragment a little easier than lead, but wouldn't penetrate far since it spreads out so much faster into a blunt trauma.

Poison-wise mercury isn't even that dangerous. Chelates easily.
http://www.webmd.com/balance/tc/chelation-therapy-topic-overview#1
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>>34234607
Mercury won't survive flying through the atmosphere as a liquid, it will break up like raindrops. It also will be shit at penetrating bare flesh and would be completely worthless against Level II armor.

At best you could make some jacketed round that has controlled fragmentation only after penetrating far enough.

Mercury is an inferior projectile material.
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>>34234054
I thought they tried this and proved it wasn't worth it
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>>34234684
Much of that is because hydro-static trauma and elastic wound cavity is almost worthless compared to the actual holes that bullet fragments cut.

Soft points are great because they tear more and bigger holes in flesh while a FMJ tends to put just one decently sized hole nice and deep. Jacketed mercury would just go poof and create an artificial mercury blister at whatever point the bullet fragmented.
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>>34234252
You're just a good old fashioned bully!
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>>34234031
not in an aluminium bodied weapon, that's for sure.
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>>34234766
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7Ilxsu-JlY
smart man
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>>34234618
Neat. The more you know
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>>34234797
wow it's like watching nano bots eat away at the target. spooky.
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>>34234054
Yes, it's a version of a dum dum bullet. You fill the hole halfway full, then crimp the tip closed after adding the mercury. At the point of impact the bullet slows down, the mercury rams forward in the cavity and breaks open the tip while the bullet is still moving.
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>>34234618
it was used in an assassination by a wily finn once.
>Mercury-filled bullet of a .32 ACP Browning/ FN Model 1900 pistol had a remarkable role in Finnish history: A Russian Governor General and a Dictator over Finland, Nikolay Ivanovich Bobrikov, was wounded by the very most lethal projectile of .32 ACP in 16th June 1904. This bullet hit his belt buckle, but the mercury filling of it, along with the fragments of lead & mercury amalgam, and shrapnels of bullet point cover, an "amalgam powder" (mixture of silver, gold, copper and tin, bought from some dentist) were able to produce more than 140 tiny perforations to the small intestine of a Dictator Over Finland. Neither explosive shell nor "DumDum" bullet of .32 ACP is able to cause such injury.
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>>34234837
that's sorta what it's doing.

what's happening is that liquid metals (aluminium and gallium) basically absorb into the structure of the aluminium like a sponge, thus weakening the aluminium.
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>>34234281
It would fuck with the ballistics, if only because it would necessarily be less precisely uniform than a FMJ bullet.
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>>34234643
You're misunderstanding the idea. In The Day of the Jackal, the Jackal places a drop of mercury into a hollowed out lead bullet, then re-seals it. The idea being that the mercury will slam forward when the bullet strikes the target, causing the bullet to fragment.

It's not a good idea, and it doesn't work.
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>>34234837
Fictional depictions of nano-machines deconstructing materials are inspired by natural processes like corrosion or mercury eating away at aluminum.
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>>34234252
>being this summer
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>>34234270
Don't sample the lube. You will die.
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>>34234002
>inB4 picture of gallium
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>>34234618
From your own link:
>Except as a treatment for lead poisoning, chelation therapy is controversial and unproved.

>mercury isn't even that dangerous.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercury_poisoning
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minamata_disease
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Recoil dampening stocks.
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>>34234054
There was a thread covering this a while a go, a guy has some 'exploders' ammo.
I found it really interesting but I'm skeptical of it.

Someone was claiming hinkley used them but that sounded like a load of crap.
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>>34234968
wtf .32 is smaller than my pinky nail, I'm in serious doubt if a junk of lead from a 32 acp round hollowed out is going to do that against a belt buckle even if it's made out of soft metal that frag is never going to spread unless it hit the very edge of it, you wouldn't hardly be able to fit an eyedropplet of mercury in there to seal over. A FMJ one is filled with lead around 70 grains it's hardly any metal at all I'm surprised the rounds don't disintegrate from speed and spin if put in a rifle length barrel.
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>>34234054
>>34235039
I mean, regardless of ballistic properties, you'd poison the shit out of anyone you shot.
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>>34234684
who tried it? hydraulic rounds seem pretty effective from the few accounts of them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xm6P-FKCf2c&
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-handling_device

Basically, if you move the bomb, a little droplet of mercury will complete an electric circuit, which will set off the bomb.

It makes it harder to defuse land mines or cluster bombs.
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>>34234002
giving kids autism.
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>>34234002
It's handy for removing lead from heavily fouled bores... That's about all I ever used it for.

And for making "beep switches" . Where every time someone hits the brakes or turns, the horn goes off.
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>>34234252
Looks like summer is finally here guys
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>>34236464
Anon, those were exploderz with a Z and they were full of mercury fulminate or another mild contact explosive.
And yes, hinckley used something similar in .22lr
http://www.nytimes.com/1981/04/03/us/explosive-bullet-struck-reagan-fbi-discovers.html
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>>34234002
The IRA used mercury switches to make bombs that exploded if you tilt them.
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>>34234002
Let me guess, you watched the Mummy with Tom Cruise.
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>>34234002
>putting mercury in your hand
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>>34234576
Mercury can be absorbed through your skin like lead. Both are heavy metals. Aluminum is toxic at a point as well.
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I think I read in The Book of the New Sun that the MC's executioner sword has a liquid Mercury core so depending at which point in the swing you were, you'd get more force/momentum.

Any practicality in this?
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>>34234002
Naval mines in the 1900s-1940s used mercury in vials, so that when something bumped the mine, the vials broke and it triggered the explosive.
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>>34234002

That's gallium.
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>>34234049
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>>34240811
>Mercury amalgamates with the metallic components of brass, weakening the metallic structure.
It should be noted that this wasn't an issue until the advent of smokeless powder. The generous fouling from black powder would absorb the mercury.
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>>34234049
Fulminate primers were eventually replaced by azide and tetryl primers, which were more stable and less toxic.
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>>34240648
Not really. In a fight it would fuck with the blade's balance, leaving the user wide open if parried or missed a swing.

Arabs successfully use regular sabers for execution since the necks of drugged up, bound people aren't that tough.
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I'm pretty sure Benelli sells a Mercury filled recoil dampener for their shotguns
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>>34241030
This.

Recoil dampners
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>>34240989
>azide
>tetryl
Is that the full names of those chemicals?
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>>34241100
No
Tetryl you can find ur damn self but the azide is lead azide
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mercury plasma drives
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A great-uncle of mine created a recoil suppressor for shotguns using mercury. Ended up manufacturing them for Beretta.
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>>34234112
How I think it went :
>Farooq, we need a new uniform for our navy/marine
>it must blend in the environment
>but retain the blue so everyone knows we aren't the same as those Army bitches
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>>34234270
not to mention if that shit get's hot, now you've got mercury vapors poisoning everyone
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>>34240538
Your skin won't absorb it.
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>>34234054
Dad tried this with a few .45 rounds that he reloaded. Yes the poisoning was a plus but the ballistics weren't that good. Although he described the targets as looking as though they got hit by a small gauge shotgun. Also, after a few months the mercury eats through the lead. He said it was kinda cool but not practical. Also probably illegal.
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>>34242927
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>>34243877
http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/1175560-overview
not terribly quickly but it will
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I read something on /k/ once in a Casaba Howitzer related thread about using mercury controlled by a magnetic field to use as a "lense" of sorts for an X-ray beam that would fry anything.

But that is my layman's explanation and I thought it was a pretty neat idea. Can anyone elaborate?
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>>34244598
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSIzyk5Mjko
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>>34245346
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I just can't fathom a really heavy liquid that you could hold in your hands, just baffling to my mind.
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>>34246523
I held molten lead in my hand once, but only very briefly.
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>>34239418
>>34235087
>>34234385
>the only way to know if >>34234031 is still in school is to actually be in school yourself
>there is no other way to identify a schoolkid
All three of you are retarded.
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>>34234002

Cleaning barrels. Remove barrel, plug it, fill with mercury. Let sit for an hour.
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bibbity bobbity bump
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>>34234002
>touching mercury barehanded
jesus fuck
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>>34251315
Just don't ingest it
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>>34234338
Nope, its because it fucks up barrels something fierce.
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>>34234049
Everyone but Russia stopped in the 60's. Russia stopped 5 years ago.
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>>34238592
I'd rather just outright kill them with the bullet.

Which is far more likely to occur with a non-mercury-filled bullet, both through traditional wounding methods being more effective and DIY-drilling a bullet will never be concentric enough to not fuck up the trajectory so you're more likely to miss or score a nonfatal hit.
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>>34251322
Moron, even touching mercury will poison you.
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>>34234978
>>34234837
>>34234797
That vid actually shows the effects of gallium on aluminium. speeded up. Mercury would have bit comparable effects, but take a much longer time to achieve them.
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