Poor people guns

>>34230049
Armscor revolver CAN be good if you get a good one. Know how to evaluate a revolver because one of the reasons the gun is cheap is not spending money on QC.

http://www.thesixgunjournal.net/a-revolver-buyers-checklist/

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>>34230049

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LCP or LC9s, used can be had for around $180 or even cheaper.

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>>34230049
Hipoint if you don't care about a machine that may fail when you need it most.

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>>34230049

The M&P shields are crazy cheap right now. Bulgarian Makarovs. Shit, for 500 bucks you have a LOT of options. Poorfag guns are 300 and less.

>>34230077
This is quite old. Is there an updated version?

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>>34230049
$500 can get you a Steyr

>>34230215
$499 can get you a better more reliable glock19.

>>34230196
There's one from early this year or last year. Somebody should have it. I did until my HDD shit out on me.

>>34230049
>What are some other options at ~200-500?

Depends on a few things.

What is your actual price range?

if it's 500, get a M&P, A glock or any plastic fantastic gun.

>>34230226
>Glock 19
>reliable

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNw179rHxkQ

I got bad news for you...

>>34230226
He want's a gun, not a grenade

>>34230049

The Rock Island Armory M206 is a decent shooter at a great price. The finish might be rough, but it's a work gun, not a collectable.

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>>34230049
You can find m&p shields for under $300 on sale every now and then

M&p pistols seem to go on sale often so maybe you can look around

Ruger 9E. 300 bucks all day, apparently they are kinda good

>>34230049
M&P Shields are hovering between $200 and $300 right now. They're good, concealable little guns with a large aftermarket. /k/ may shit on them nowadays since they've dropped to the point that real poorfags can have one, but they're still really nice. Only downside is the poor trigger.

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>>34230049
Hi fellow poorfags

This kel tec sub 2000 looks like a good deal

Looks it up b4 its a goner

>>34230292
Why does ian carry one himself?

>>34230059

>*saved to favorites*

thanks frendo :)

>>34230529
Retarded glock-fanboyism.

MAUSER
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>>34230529
He carries a european production 1911?

>>34230083
Probably going to buy one of these to carry to the gym.

>>34230292
When the fuck are you gonna expose a glock to mud?
When the fuck is the average person gonna be in an environment where this is even gonna be a concern?

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I got this fucker for free.

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>What are some other options at ~200-500?

Beretta 92S, don't settle for any other Beretta. It has a manual safety, other Berettas do not. The most reliable and smooth shooting handgun you'll ever fire. Costs between 250 and 350 bucks. Get one.

>>34231217
Are you the guy that dug that judge out of a riverbed?

>>34230226
$450 can get you a more reliable FNS

https://youtu.be/RNw179rHxkQ

>>34230049
I love my m206. I just got it out to the range for the first time on Thursday. Put 119 rounds down it with out a single hiccup and was able to get 5 out of 6 head shots on a paper target for the 30 yard line. I'm very happy with mine so far

>>34231112
Aren't those expensive though? Where are you finding cheap ones?

>>34231353
I heard that if you wanted to you could swap a lot of the internals with colt parts

ARs are so prevalent right now that you can pick one up for brand new one for 500 bucks. Maybe less if you're willing to do a little digging. They're cheaper than AKs. There are no excuses for not owning an AR right now and being poor is included on that list.

>>34231277
what's difference between that and 92fs

>>34231394
Safety is left side only, heel mag release, and worse sights.

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>>34231278
yes

>>34230529
Ian carries a Bergmann though

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>>34230049
My dad has two of these
S&W .38
Must be like 30 years old at least.

>>34230529
when are you gonna be carrying and suddenly not only are you being shot at your gun has been submerged in mud

>>34230049
TURKROACH(TRISTAR) CZ CLONES
THEY MAKE EM BETTER THAN CZECHS

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>>34233200

>>34233200
>Cockroaches
>Making guns better than Czechs
Proofs.

>>34230096
>implying you can't beat some one to death with 5 pounds of pot metal

>>34231536
That MAS 38 he just bought is his truck gun.

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GOT MY GLONK-40 PROBLEM SOLVER RIGHT HERE!

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Walther creed 9mm, can be had for 350ish. Just bought mine a month ago. I love it. The quality is amazing for the price.

>>34230282
My actual price range is probably as close to 200 as possible. I'd like to someday own the kind of pistol you keep for a while, but for now feel like I should probably have 'something'.

>>34231277
Are extra magazines available?

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>>34233202
Love mine!
No tooling marks too. Not that guy but I wouldn't say that they make cz's better.. Maybe just at the price point that cz's should be sold at 300-400$. Got mine for 325$ at academy

>>34230049
Get an SD9VE. It's basically a 300 dollar glock clone.

>>34233490
That da tho is insane :( Canik tp9 is good for 350$. But for the 50 bucks less the s&w isn't bad

>>34233508
>ever buying Canik
Do you hate everyone anon?

>>34231124
>Ballister Molina
>It's Argentinian, stupid
>He doesn't EDC it

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>>34233244
>truck gun.

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>>34230049
Sccy CPX 2 + 50 rounds for under $300
H&R Pardner (Remington 870 clone) + 25 shells for $207
Your pick of any of the sub $500 ARs currently on the market

Iv'e heard taurus makes their smith clones off of old SW tooling. I'd carry one of those.

>>34233508
>:(
Neck yourself reddit

>>34233277
That's kinda amazing actually.

I wonder if it is just straight blowback or has a actual locking mechanism.

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>>34233277
That ain't a Glock-40 Problem Solvah, nogunz

>>34233277
WTF am I looking at here?

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Buy makarov, you won't regret it
T. Poorfag

>>34234813
How much did you pay? Are p64's acceptable? How is it finding ammo?

>>34235008
300
I don't know much about them, but I hear they're ok
Ammo is more or less about the same cost as normal 9x19, just buy online.

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I'm a poorfag veteran who's going to college. I was able to afford all this by bartending two places and getting good at saving. I also just added an Aimpoint PRO and weaponlight to the AR.

Just learn how to budget everytime you get paid. I mostly get cash since I bartend, I put some aside for emergency fund/saving/investing, some for travel, some for guns/ammo/gear. It's not fast, but it gives you lots of time to build a fund as you research and look for a good deal. It's also nice buying something you're absolutely sure you want.

>>34230049

Here you go OP. S&W Quality, slightly rubbed finish

http://www.jgsales.com/smith-wesson-10-revolver,-38-special,-4-heavy-barrel,-square-butt,-g-vg,-used,-s-w.-p-99163.html

I got one a few years ago, love it

>>34230049
My first hi power was 350, I sold it for 600, then i bought another nicer Hi power for 600 and i wish i had my 350 Hi power since it was worn in already.

I got a Remington 870 police magnum for 189.

I bought a surplus leo basic bitch carbine for 400 out the door 2 weeks ago.

Most recently i just got a 92fs for $380 out the door from a local gunshop.

The best cheap gun is the gun you like, for cheap.

>>34235257
As much as I want one of these, after shipping and transfer it's hard to justify.

t. Not OP

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>>34235480
pic related, best deals so far. No pic on the 92fs because waiting periods.

>>34235572
What brand ar

>>34231141
Just don't use JHP use FMJ for the LCP. If you go for the LC9 get the LC9S striker version. You can run JHP just fine in the LC9(s)

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>>34235590
bushmaster, came with texas leo rollmark too, why i bought it.

>>34231394
It's designed around retarded euro gun handling. Like a heel mag release. He is just an ultra poorfag

>>34235008
P64s are markedly worse to shoot than a mak and have far smaller demand.

Spend the extra 100.

T. Owner of both

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>>34235257
You are close. I agree fully. But hunt up a model 64. Even if it's a little banged up, you can fix the finish a lot easier. Pic related is mine after a little work and $20 grips. I am in it under $300 because I caught the gun on sale at sog

http://www.southernohiogun.com/smith-and-wesson-model-64-double-action-only.html

I suggest getting police trade ins, they're around $300-$400 now. If you want new poorfag guns I suggest subcompact semis or snubbies of whatever ilk, they can be had for under $300.

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>>34233200
>buying turkshit
heh

>>34235636
That's a really really good deal. I've seen some online for $500 and I thought that was good. Good job.

>>34230049
get a Ruger MK II
one of the most fun plinkers to play with
http://www.gunbroker.com/item/654005319

>>34235897
The AR market is so fucked right now after the election, even nice ars are a poorfag guns now, I dont even think the price has hit the floor yet.

Now is the time to buy man, Im not even an ar guy but when i saw it at my store i had to get it.

>>34235981
Yeah I got an AR already but I could go for one with a fixed carry handle for that A E S T E T I C

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>>34230049

There is a difference between "cheap" and "inexpensive". You should only look at 9mm too because logistics and cost poorfag.

Used is the best deal as I have bought used guns that had maybe a magazine through it at most. Best deals was a LNIB 92FS with 1 year old Trijicons for $400, LNIB G17s, CZ-75Bs, and Walther P99 with nights for $350.

.40 Glocks are always significantly cheaper, and I've bought ex-PD that were un-issued, bought an aftermarket 9mm barrel/ejector/extractor, and instant G17 for $325.

Take advantage of mail-in rebates, especially now. I mean fucking Steyr, S&W, Walther, and Beretta all have MIRs. Also age of the AR-15 which can be built with basic tools.

Also common magazines, parts, overall QC, and good CS are better attributes than your $200 Spanish Ripoff with crude parts that do not exist anymore.

>>34235793
>DAO

>>34236007
mines actually removable, so theres that. Theres a picatinny rail under it.

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>>34236017
And? If you're such a tismo then get one with a spurred hammer. Or replace it with one. They are under 50 bucks.

I wanted dao. I already have a hammered revolver in 357. I wanted a dao wife-proof 38 with a heavy barrel.

>>34236017
DAO is a smart way to do a self defense gun. You won't be cooking the hammer when you need it so being tempted to do so when training or plinking could lead to poor practices. And these are guns for poorfags ie pulling duty as self defense not just range toys.

>>34235180
This is solid advice, actually. Saving up for something good gives you some extra time to mull over your decision, so you can be absolutely satisfied with what you buy. It's a different story if you're in a hurry and need to make a purchase with the money you have on hand, but it's always nice having something you aren't going to have to explain as "my cheap gun".

>>34235793
Isn't this the place you need your own FFL to buy from

>>34236240
Supposedly. But I've ordered 3 guns firstly through them my ffl. Some guns dont show a price but the ones that do I have ordered fully online by putting my ffl on em.

Glock 22, Smith 64 and 870. All leo trades.

>>34230049
Get a glock 19

>>34236262
Through them to my ffl*

>>34231361
>mausers
>expensive
spanish and yugo mausers are dirt cheap right now dude, 150-300 bucks each
plus some israeli and spanish masuers are 308, making them even cheaper to feed

>>34230049
There isn't much that you can't get under $500. Someone was selling a used USP for $400 the other day. Revolvers are another issue. Armscors are not trustworthy. Rossi's are ok. EAA makes solid budget revolvers like the Windicator and the Ruger and Smith airweights are around 400 new. I also hear that Taurus has tried to make revolvers in recent years but the evidence remains to be seen. They are owned by Rossi and that concerns me. Pass on Charter Arms.

>>34236318
Why pass on charter? They make neat ass little guns with a strong design concept. They don't have great triggers or anything but I had an off duty that was a fine little gun.

>>34230152
what is this?

>>34236335
I think it's a rohm. Aka German stielgranate 2.0

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Let's talk real poorfag guns, what gun could you buy with a $100 bill?

>>34236368
>Inb4 time travellers from 2006 say Mosin

>>34236368
A poo-tier condition iver Johnson

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>>34230049
Consider Astra. Everyone looks down on them. However Astra 100 is a nice and reliable gun.

It's a SIG clone. That's why most of the people don't care about them.
>because it's not a SIG but just a clone.

I'm quite happy with mine. I even got an original 80's style shoulder holster for it. I paid $280 for a gun, four mags and that shoulder holster. I'd call that a deal. I have had that for a few months now and I have shot about 500 rounds with it. It works quite well. It's more precise than I am accurate.

Pic related is not my gun. I got that pic from the internet.

>>34236368
A very used hi-point
Röhm RG-14
single shot .22 rifle
this >>34236425

>>34236368
Believe it or not. Cabela's has brand new c9s and a knife for $99 right now.

>>34230049
when glock sells a gun to police new for 300 dollars what does that tell you?

>>34236547
Be a police?

>>34235180
this. also learn to make use of your local coinstar if you can.

>>34237022
>Parleying with the coinstar jew
US Bank has a machine they pour it into, no need to roll, and they don't take a cut. I don't think you even need a account

>>34234813
>Penis grips

What's the cheapest .357 revolver that won't blow up in my hand? Preferably a medium sized one not a pocket rocket.

>>34237221
Probably a used ruger.

>>34237221
Picked up a model 13 at a gun show for 300 once. Pretty proud of that one.

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>>34237255
Model 13 (had to swap to phone for the pic)

Pinned and recessed too.

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>>34230049
define "poor". I have found used smith and wesson 59 series for 300 or even 200 dollars at stores, they dont sell because theyre not the newest tacticool HK or glock, but theyre reliable as hell
IMO theres no excuse for buying a shit gun, there are plenty of cheaper but still great firearms to be found if you save a few hundred dollars

>>34233204
implying hi point even uses metal, its probably plastic with paint

poorfag snubbies?

>>34235257
Lmao at that price i got one for like 150 otd a few weeks ago.

>>34238302
Lmao I got one for like 30 bucks in 1973

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>>34238178
You can get an EAA Windicator for under $300. I've heard they're solid shooters, despite rough machining marks and poor finishes being common.

>>34230049
reliability is a bit hit or miss, but the Ruger RP9 is a full size striker fired handgun you can get for 250-300 right now

If you get a fucked up one i guess you can just have Ruger fix it

>>34236524
I am seriously considering this as something to leave in the car. After the ebay gift card, it'll come out to 80 bucks.

The knife alone seems to go for 25-40 bucks on ebay, and I've been wanting a cheap knife to fuck around with. Let's say another 5 for the shitty case, but I don't really need it.

>>34237602
I work at a gun store and 1st-3rd gen smiths usually sell within a day or two of us buying them. The prices we have on them aren't great either at 300-400. Lots of fudds at my store though.

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>>34234694
Looks to be blowback, but there's some... unusual bits in there I'm not real keen on. Aside from being made out of epoxy and sawdust.
http://www.everydaynodaysoff.com/2013/05/10/homemade-glock/

>>34234772
Its a GLONK, not your last century Glock grenade

>>34236477
>RG-14
>wasting $100 on a gun that couldn't even kill Regan properly
at that point just sharpen a radiator strut into a dart and dip it in bleach, save the $100

>>34238302

I got mine for $270 from bud's

>four years ago

OP could still do worse

>>34234772
>>34230049


I'll go ahead and be that guy

I got a Hi-Point .45 (third hand) as my first gun 9 years ago and it's been flawless. Ugly, heavy, shitty ergonomics, yes, but it functions just fun and OP shouldn't shy away from one if he's so broke it's on his radar. If shitty looks at the range concern you, don't get one. If having a semi-auto .45 with an unbeatable warranty are worth the price to you, get it

Also consider a Makarov, Bersa Thunder, any of the older Ruger P-series semi auto pistols

Just saying, Hi-Points might be a nigmeme but they work

>>34231557
>30 years old
That looks like something that is much older than 30 years old.

>>34230049
Generic AR15's are cheap now (~$500). Buy one and shut the fuck up like everyone else.

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Accidentally posted this in the flaregun thread.

you can find zastava m88a's for ~200, I got one of SG but looks like they're sold out now. Maybe gunbroker.

It's durable and reliable - I've never had a malfunction, but good luck getting tight groupings past 20 yards with that ridiculous trigger pull.

>>34241332
>20 yards

fuck I need to stop copy pasting, I meant 20 feet

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>>34241332
I find flare guns are pretty sweet. ((11)) 1966. I'm looking into the 12 gauge insert for the 12 gauge nautical flares.

>>34241545
Fuck. Wrong thread.

>>34241323
I forgot what brand, but some guy came in to price match an AR at the store I work at. After rebate, the gun came out to like 350. It was probably a dpms

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>>34230190


I'd stay away from the shield. Anon in another thread shit shot a few boxes through his, this what happened. Even after cleaning and using wire brush, still smooth.

>>34230292
I hate when my gun jams after a long day at the mud factory

>>34241063
I bought the same gun 4 years ago aha. Regretted selling the gun so much I was happy to get another
>at half price

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>>34230049
I made a pgo out of an old Maverick 88. $55 in upgrades, surprisingly easy to keep steady.

>>34236524
Wow, you're not kidding. I thought it would come with some no-name knife but it's a Kershaw no less. That's awfully tempting.

>>34241752
Kys

>>34236368
Heritage Rough Rider sometimes

>>34241332
>implying Tokerev triggers aren't some of the crispest surplus pistol triggers under $1000

>>34237099
>not designing your drips after the most ergonomic shape for a male hand

>>34241659
That's fucking lame if that happened to him, but that's only 1 point of data. As a counter point, I rented a heavily used shield at the range and consistently printed 2-3" at 7-yards. My own shield does just the same.

>>34237022
>>34237065
Most big banks such as wells fargo and BAO will actually provide you with a heavy duty bag to throw all your change into. Fill it up and drop it back off at the bank and in a few days the money will be in your account. It might only be for merchants but ive been doing it forever. They dont take a cut either.

>>34236368
walmart single shot 12 gauge folder

>>34230049
Ruger sr9e can be had brand new fir $300 give or take. Used ruger sr9 or src9 should be around the same. Used ruger p-- series for around $200. As for revolvers you might get lucky and snag cheap lcr. Look for used ruger "six" guns as well.

You can snag first gen ruger lcp's <$200, lc9's around $200. New lcp2/lc9s/lc9pro etc closer to $300, some even have a laser

Charter arms revolvers aren't terrible but they are cheap and few frills. My friend had a .38 snub beater gun and it shot surprisingly well

There are also hi-points.. memes aside, feed them good +p ammo and they are surprisingly reliable. Brand new $165. Double it give or take and You could snag the carbine, which are actually great

Older h&r revolvers are cheap and well made. They are mostly .22 and .32, if you get .32 ammo will be more of a bitch than .22

Shotguns? Maverick 88 <$185 at walmart. Mossberg 500 or remshit 870 for $300. You can honestly get good shotguns for under <$500

If you can save a little over that $500 you are almost there in a cheap AR

Don't get a nugget or handnugget

Personally I don't go below ruger, they are awesome guns at a great price point, just not as 'refined' as some others. At the higher end of your price range you could get a glock or find a deal on some sort of police trade in for even cheaper

>>34242112
Where? They doing this at all their stores?

>>34230049
3rd gen flocks are frequenting the $430-$450 range now that Hillary didn't take are gunzzzz.

>>34233203
Cockroaches tend to leave less burrs after machining and even paint guns inside :^)

>>34230096
Hi-Point is reliable though, don't be a limpwristing manlet.

>>34236368
Single-shot shotguns.

>>34230096
What are you basing this on? Or did you just make that up?

>>34230340
Most popular pistol in the us right now. I just picked pne up for 240 after rebate.

>>34230327

They're pretty good.

>>34234846
Apex trigger, a solution to a problem that doesnt exist. I shoot the stock trigger just fine. Shot the apex, shot the same. More of a mental mod than anything.

>>34236273

I'll carry some mud instead.

>>34235903
Or a buckmark.

>>34230049
What's the best poor person hunting shotgun? I'm in NJ so no rifles.

>>34241659

At $215, being a good pistol, widely used, and S&W's awesome warranty its worth the risk.

i prefer the G43 only because M&P slide locks are tighter than duck butt.

>>34243971
Who gives a fuck when the slide snaps in two?

The Hi-Point would ironically be a good pistol if the slide was actual ordinance. It would be worth the extra $50 per unit to recoup investment.

Still better to buy S&W, Ruger, or used Glock, CZ, or Beretta.

>>34244355

Maverick 88

>>34230083
Own an original LC9. Only gripe is the trigger is really long and heavy, but I've grown accustomed to it and have no issues with it now. Never had a failure with it, I trust it.

>>34241752
ATF pls

>>34244355
You can find used toppers for under 100 bucks.

>>34241659
Just use 9mm shotshells

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>>34230049
You can get these for about $260. I got this one for $225 used but excellent condition.

>>34243019
It's an online deal where you ship it to one of their stores for pickup. They also have the 40s and 45s on sale for $135 and $130 respectively but this knife combo is arguably the better deal. Like another anon said, it's possible to buy a $100 Cabela's gift card off ebay for $82 essentially making it an $82 buy.

http://www.cabelas.com/product/HI-POINT-SEMI-AUTOMATIC-CENTERFIRE-PISTOLS/2433235.uts

http://www.ebay.com/itm/100-Cabelas-Gift-Card-For-Only-82-FREE-Mail-Delivery/112436909921

I got one for 225 new on gunbroker a couple weeks ago. Tossed it in the safe for later endeavors. Looked like a good investment. I like the Caniks and the CZ 75s so maybe a crossbreed :)

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R73 HR .32 magnum, costs less than $180 in the best condition. Pretty neat gun too it can shoot .32 acp and .32 s&w safely. Its just cheap as fuck.

>>34230317
Still not buying from them snd Springfield. Used, ok.

>>34237662
>never held a Hi-Point

>>34246151
It's zinc

>>34236368
used marlin model 60 from your local pawnshop

>>34230049
I'll save you from the dumb fucks below. Taurus PT111MG2

9x19mm semi-auto with a number of optional safety features and far more quality than its worth at 200$, 159.99$ during a sale they had a few years back. Imagine a less expensive and less negro Glock that's kinda just better at everything except mag cap.

>>34230049
Ruger P-90, probably $250-300 in your local pawnshop.

>>34235180
>Aimpoint PRO
Good choice m8. I feel like I got more than my money's worth for a low-mid-price optic

>>34245460
How is this an atf gun? The barrel looks 18 inches

>>34239818
I've gotten lucky 3 times with snagging S&W autos right after the get put out for sale, have at least one of all 3 gens

When I worked in a shop we had a 4506--1 (great gun, actually OC'd one while working there) last exactly 1 hour after being put in the case at opening time

>>34245288
Are you one of those people that try to use a slide lock like a slide release.

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I just saw this posted on slickguns. The Sarsilmaz SR38. It's a Turkish .357 mag revolver with a 4 inch barrel. Looks like a clone of the S&W 686. Only $308. Seems like a pretty solid deal. I think it's a good alternative to the EAA Windicator. Those have alloy frames don't they?

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>>34230077

>>34246065
You're thinking of Rock River Arms. Rock Island Armory is a flip company.

>>34246676
Doesn't the vertical grip make it an AOW

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>>34234813
This

Or any slavshit semi auto pistol really.

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I picked up a tok clone for 250

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>>34236368
I unironically love mine.

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>>34230196
>>34230270
I happened to save it.

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>>34249016
the fuck is this pussy shit

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Bulgarian Makarov.

Classic Firearms still has them for $300.

https://www.classicfirearms.com/makarov-bulgarian-9x18-semi-auto

Underwoord and Hornady both make good defense ammo in 9x18. No excuses.

>>34245695
hes literally shitting on the opporitunity and asking to get his dog blasted. hes not worth the time anon. men like that dont understand opporitunity.

>>34230049
>~200-500
literally tons of used guns at that price point

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>>34248871
no, its just a shotgun it still meets length requirements. legally speaking its exactly the same as this.

>>34249425
P64/p83 are only 240 as well.

>>34231353
Put another problem free 50 rounds down the pipe today. Very happy with mine, even if I did over pay

>>34249204
>$190 nugget
get your outdated trash out of here

>>34246930
German craftsmanship or roach work? Get real.

>>34246222
>Dollar signs after the amount
Fuck off br. Your guns suck

You can buy a old surplus beretta 92s for like $299

>>34248921
Mags are implausible to find and cost 100 dollars when you do.

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I bought a Kel Tec PF9 zimzam edition at a local gunstore. They provide lifetime warranty gunsmithing with instore purchases so I figured if it had problems I'd just take it back until they fixed it.

It's been outstanding though. I've shot maybe about 1000rds through it and have had no issues once it had a couple hundred rds of break in time. The trigger pull is long DAO and once you learn how to pull the trigger it's surprisingly accurate.Trigger does take a lot of getting used to if you're new to DAO.

>>34241665
Don't you just hate that? What a piece of shit.

>>34234785
A Non-Glock brand Glock, kind of like the XD and M&P

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>>34250031
>Glocks
>cocks

hmmm.

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>>34249910
>Kel-Tec
>Outstanding


I actually feel sorry for you.

>>34250196
Did you forget what thread you're in right now? I mean it's been outstanding from a functionality standpoint. The major thing you're going to read on the internet is people complaining about reliability, FTF, FTE.. Mine has had none of these problems. It's been as reliable as my Glocks or my HK. I was very surprised.

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>>34250223
I know where I am. I am glad that your anomaly is still working. I would never trust a Kal-Trop. ever. never. yikes nope. run away. damn KT u skurry

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>>34249016
The only thing I'd mention about this (and it's super spergy) is that the CZ pistol pictured in the P-09 the full size version of the P-07, which is a compact and not terrible to carry.

They're fantastic guns for the price, my P09 is one of the finer pistols I've ever shot, thousands of rounds, zero malfunctions and more accurate than cheap-ish pistol should be.

>>34249425
Maks are good value for price but they have shit sights and are snappy as hell. For $300 you can get something with 3-dot sights and a proper Browning tilt-barrel.

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Sig Sp2022
Got mine brand new for $360

https://youtu.be/B4EYUsB6wBc

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>>34249823
buddy I got 3 mags for $5 apiece off of craig's list in January of this year.

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>>34249016
what the fuck is this, literally nothing has been added and all you've done is censor it. must be the '/k/ is a progressive board' version

here is the uncensored updated version, please save it if you are reading this so we can stop posting the outdated 1st version

>>34246819
I went into work today and was able to put a first gen (39-2) in good condition on layaway for 270 after all of my discounts. It's not the greatest price, but it ain't bad. Everyone at work was telling me that it came in becuase apparently people think I'm really into early smith auto loaders.

I do already have another one on layaway, in slightly worse condition and needs minor repair (5 dollar part) for 210 though.

I guess I ain't getting that hipoint anymore, since I'd rather put the 100 dollars towards the smith. Although there are already people wanting to buy the knife and the case off me, so it'll actually come out to only 40 bucks for a fucking c9. So maybe I should... I'll sleep on it and maybe order it tomorrow

>>34235572
Beautiful Hi-Powers, anon. It sucks when we sell something and regret it but you know what you have to do - shoot that baby enough to wear her in. Mine was my first pistol and I couldn't have gone with a better option.

>>34230049
Flare gun and a shotgun shell or a machines volley fire arrangement.

It is legal.

>>34250790
One version will have the jury convinced you're a racist out looking to kill, the other will convince them you're just on a budget.

Heads up. Some cabela's are blowing out their used M&P 9 shields becuase they can't sell them. Saw one today for 190 out the door. Some people might just want to pay a little more (like 20-30) for a new gun, but if you're poor and don't want to deal with the rebate, it's an option I suppose.

It depends on how long the gun has been in the store though.

>>34249823
You can convert P-38 mags. Just cut a notch in the front.

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>>34230096
>watching First 48
>yet another nig v nig killing
>this time the hood talks
>turns out the 'victim' was the aggressor
>nig going to college turning his life around chilling on tha block
>gets into verbal altercation
>pulled Hi-Point .40 (I think) on older crippled nig with a cane
>his gun jams
>OG isn't having it
>his shit works
>such is another day in the hood
Mfw they find the Hi-Point all fucked under a random car after someone kicked it

>>34234198
can you recommend some cheap ARs? I grew up in a fuddy household only shooting revolvers and shotguns, i don't know much about ARs.

>>34252227
M&P15 Sport II

>>34252227
PSA build best bang for your buck

>>34252227
PSA build, gunshow or LGS lower.

These kits in order of price and desirability
http://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-16-mid-length-5-56-nato-1-8-nitride-freedom-rifle-kit-516445632.html

http://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-16-m4-carbine-5-56-nato-1-7-nitride-13-5-lightweight-m-lok-moe-freedom-rifle-kit-with-mbus-sight-set-516446228.html

http://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-16-carbine-length-chf-m4-5-56-1-7-rifle-kit.html

http://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-16-chf-mid-length-rifle-kit.html

http://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-14-7-chf-mid-light-weight-pinned-rifle-kit.html

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>>34252227
I personally have a DPMS, which /k/ loves to shit on. I've put a 3 or 4 hundred rounds (at least 200 steel case) through it and haven't had a single failure of any kind and am getting 2-3" groups so I can say I've been very pleased with it.

The guys saying PSA builds are the guys you should listen to, I just didn't want to wait on parts for one and got a good deal on my DPMS from a local shop. If you don't want to build one, you could look at M&P15, AR556, or a Del-Ton (don't totally recommend Del-Ton unless it's a hell of a deal).

Tl;Dr PSA build a best, DPMS a good

>>34231463
Better check those serials, friend.

>>34234813
Fucking love my P64. Excellent size, great feel, accurate. The Polish P64 isn't "a Makarov," it's a Walther clone that shoots 9mm Makarov ammo.

Seems right that after the Germans invaded Poland and then lost the war, one of their better pistol designs got co-opted by the Poles.

P64's are accurate as fuck, fixed barrel blowback design. If you can't hit your mark, you just suck as a marksman. Only downsides are that they're heavy (if you're a weak fag who cares), snappy (if you're a limpwrist fag who cares) and 6+1 capacity (if you're a shitty aim fag who cares).

LGS has a one day spacial today on the SCCY pistols for 189 today. If I didn't have to be in the office all day I would go over there and buy one. They usually sell them for 239. Just toss it in the safe as an investment. Last month I got a 45 shield for 300 with tax out the door if I ever get that rebate back.....still waiting

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>>34236368
Got my tanfoglio for 95 at a pawnshop

>>34230096
Obviously never owned or shot one. I carry a Glock 30, but I don't shit on Hi-Point. They're bulky and ugly and low magazine capacity, but damn reliable. So fuck off. You're nogunz anyway, like all of the summerfags who think they're cool with their fake brand snobbery.