when and if usa fails economicly will the business banks and

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We have specific orders to render all our equipment unusable by the enemy if it is in imminent danger of being compromised.

We'd clean-detonate any nukes not in a ready-to-fire configuration so they couldn't be used and also so they contaminate the surrounding area.

Our jets and other aircraft have self-destruct chemical packs that destroy the classified components so wrecks and mishaps don't provide the enemy with any usable intel to reverse-engineer our tech.

Suffice it to say, if we knew for a fact that the end was nigh and the USA was about to cease to exist, you subhuman cockroaches wouldn't get one iota of our tech to use in whatever diarrhea-skinned socialist dystonia you install in our place.

Get fucked.

>>34227845
Fuck the G-rides, I want the machines that are making them.

>>34227845
Absolutely not. America isn't surrendering the means by which it keeps other countries in line

>>34227845
LMAO

Fuck no.

>>34227845
>when and if usa fails economicly will the business banks and forgine countries take american's militery equipment i.e fighter jets and tanks and war ships like it happened in argentina when they failed??
Under Obama? Probably.
Under Trump? No fucking way.

>>34227845
lol uncle sam always pays his debts. our credit is the fucking gold standard. thats why all other countries buy u.s. government securities. china would be fucked if they couldnt buy u.s. treasury bills. they'd have to depend on their own currency, which is, of course, tied to the u.s. dollar.

suck it, you fucking slope shill.

They can have them one bullet at a time

All I want is the oil kikes to stop being sub-human, Godless degenerates with their kike media and conniving ways. If one thing about the US is to collapse I'd want it to be their media.

>>34228364
Trump would surrender everything if it meant he could go golfing early.

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>>34228676
Get fucked commie, King Nigger is gone Hillary Cuntion lost and PRESIDENT Donald J. Trump is here to stay.

>>34228676
I doubt it.
I could see him going 'if you want it, here you go' and using those aircraft to drop MOABs.

>>34228830
>drumpsters get triggered this easy

>>34228400
nothing last forever dipshit
Empires rise and fall,
always have, always will
kys

>>34229009
and I see the libshits are set on the US not rebuilding and wanting to set up a muslim takeover once the US 'empire' falls.

>>34228894
I think you mean he'll drop a few grumpy Tweets than go back to doing nothing at all.

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>>34227845
>If the (((banks))) turn on the US like they did on the soviet union and the 3rd Reich will the USA give up it's ability to take on the entire world militarily and win
Not anymore

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>>34229009
Rome, like the united States, was a Republic.
That republic suffered internal strife and political corruption to the point it BECAME an empire and conquered every square inch of land connected to the Mediterranean.

You really, really don't want the American republic to fail if you are geopolitically opposed to US global hegemony

>>34227845
>will foreign nations take US military equipment

No, unless the US military is so routed they have to abandon equipment. It is VERY rare for the US to be in full retreat like that. However, plans have been made, ie., destroy equipment.

The go-to are things like thermite. A special set-up exists that will melt an office file-organizer and turn it into a pile of molten metal, for example. PAL systems for nuclear weapons are so ridiculously complicated that any attempt to "bypass" the "lock" will result in the weapon being a brick; a brick of conventional explosive with some radioactive material, sure, but not a functional nuclear weapon.

The only way the US would get rid of equipment like that is if we were selling it to our allies in a fire-sale.

>>34228400
We actually still have debts going back to WW1, the trick is that as long as your economy grows faster than the debt interest, it doesn't matter. Depending on the initial arrangement, he original "debt" has been paid several times over at this point. Lets say Remington was given government bonds in exchange for making ammo in 1917 to the tune of $1,000,000 with 2% yearly interest. By now, just from the interest alone, Remington would have been paid $2,000,000. They literally doubled their money. If the government truly wanted to just wash it away, they likely could (presumably some deal would be made with Remington however).

A countries' willingness to pay its debts, transparency in accounting (ie., your published economic data is valid and accurate, and it is clear how you arrive at such numbers), and ability to make interest payments are integral to the value of fiat money. Ours is further enhanced by the USD's prominence in global commodities markets; the US is the largest importer of goods, largest consumer of goods/services, and home to the world's largest companies and banking conglomerates. This gives the US a major advantage in all economic activity.

cont.

>>34230659
As a result of historical luck (namely, being untouched after WW2 and having extremely strong banks) the US has made itself into the linchpin of the entire global economy. Our dollar is the gasoline that everyone uses; sure Diesel is stronger (ie., the Euro is slightly more valuable), but gasoline is still the go-to. The relative instability facing the Euro now (due to PIIGS debt, Brexit, and the rise of the Right) has caused many to become uncertain about its future. The US has always been stable, however. One of the very few times the US hasn't paid a debt is after the Civil War; France and England wanted to collect on loans they made to the Confederacy and received a very clear "go fuck yourself" from the US government.

The US itself has a long history of trying to keep itself together, with extreme violence if necessary. Balkanization couldn't occur easily, if it could occur at all without great difficulty and likely violence (ie., a Civil War). It won't be "West Virginia vs. Virginia", it would be more like "Taliban vs. Northern Alliance", or "Ulsters vs. IRA". It would be bombs made in suburban workshops blowing up police cars, urban riots at the drop of a hat, attacking Shale oil equipment like ELF did with lumber/mining, even racially-motivated attacks like the 60s deep south and such. The Civil War 2 would be Civil War 2: The Troubles (America Edition) if it happens at all, unless there is some absurd political upheaval that post-Comey's testimony is unlikely.

Here would have been the "best chance" imo:

The aftermath of the Comey testimony revealed that while votes were altered, they were not SO altered to change the outcome of the election, even if Hillary gained an extra state or so. Some view the results as illegitimate entirely due to Russian interference, others view Trump as the legitimate president since the votes that were altered wouldn't change the outcome.

THAT could maybe lead to a major constitutional and government crises.

>>34230785
I honestly believe that if trump is impeached, there will be violence on a national scale.

He won't be impeached. Now, since he's clearly not mentally fit to be the POTUS, he may resign.

>>34230659
Bro, 2% interest on 1,000,000 is over 7 million dollars now 100 years later, not 2 million.

>>34231161
No there won't be. As usual people will simply cry about it online.

>>34228135
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPO5lbFnulE
fpbp

>>34231429
you're right, i messed up in the excel sheet, derp

regardless, it would have been a VERY lucrative return over a century.

>>34231161
They'd just replace him with pence, or if Pence goes down they will replace him with Ryan, as per the line of succession.

Dems do NOT want Pence to be president. DJT hasn't been outwardly hostile to LGBT, and simultaneously doesn't have solid grasp on how things work in DC. Pence is better equipped at the politick side of things.

Paul Ryan is a Sith Lord to them. He's young, fairly charismatic, personable, knows what he's talking about and how to plan for it, and actually knows how to get things done in DC. They'd be trading an uncomfortably-hot shower for napalm.

>>34231908
Ryan is a fucking snake that's given the Dems everything they've wanted without demure.

>>34231879
Yeah man, compounding interest is just too good, I can't justify buying new guns when my stocks are making money

>>34231908
Democrat here. While Trump's bumbling ineptitude sure is funny and prevents him from furthering the conservative agenda, he's doing real damage to our democratic institutions and ruining our relationships with allies. I'd be more than willing to swap him for Ryan.

Besides, Ryan isn't nearly as competent as we all thought he was 5 years ago.

>>34230659
Those "debts" have been paid a dozen times over.

It's literally all just interest owned to the national Federal reserve Kennedy died trying to stop.

>>34232403
>he's doing real damage to our democratic institutions and ruining our relationships with allies.

Ready for some real politik? Our allies are wholly dependent on us, thus it's truly impossible to damage our standing with them, they can only damage their standing with us.

This equal relationship thing is just a farce to make them feel better and to keep their population pacified with the Alliance.

>>34231879
>regardless, it would have been a VERY lucrative return over a century.
Except $1 million back then is not the equivalent of $1 million today.

If the interest rate is above the rate of inflation, they make money, otherwise they lose money, regardless of the dollar figure paid.

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>>34232403
>Believes Trump is a conservative
>Thinks Trump cares about the "conservative agenda"

Trump doesn't know what conservative means.

>>34232769
I never stated or implied either of those things, but in the absence of his own agenda it falls to that of his party and those he surrounds himself with.

>>34228830

>this bait is of mediocre quality

You didn't quite nail the tone, browse /pol/ more. And /k/ less

>>34232403
>Implying your head isn't so far up your own ass to see the man is playing 4th dimensional chess with the Demoshits marching along like the 3rd Reich
>Implying Paul Ryan isn't a bought, paid, and stuffed Hillary and Soros shill
>Implying any of our "Allies" outside of Japan, South Korea and most of the Philippines really matter when Germany is shitting the bed, France is trying to convince the world hourly terrorist attacks are just an aspect of life when dealing with radical Mudslimes, and it's just the right thing to do, and the UK is binning spoons. All while none of the contribute to NATO
>Implying trying to repair the eight years of hell Obama made for Putin isn't infinitely more important given Russia's race to build as many nuclear power plants as it possibly can
>Implying focusing on things like the Rothschild own National Federal Reserve and ousting political corruption isnt infinitely more important to Trump than playing the fucking political lines that got the US into such a fucking mess

Reminder, if you're still using general sweeping terms like Demoshit, Libtard, Republicunt and Conservitard to identify your system of political beliefs, you aren't just a part of the problem, you're of it's very definition.

>>34228135
We even burn our shit so they can't use that too.

>>34232670

Explain.

>>34233810
But anon, he didn't use any of those terms. You did.

The truth is that American economy is not going to collapse. It's the strongest economy in the world and the whole world economy could collapse and America would barely feel it. We're very comfy. 5% of the world pop yet we produce a quarter of the world's goods. Only 12% of our gdp is from exports meaning the whole world economy could collapse and we'd barely feel it. Foreign cucks just don't realize how great we are. Ie. Gun rights, free speech, privacy, 5th amendment, most rich, most food, most tech. To name a few.

>>34234189
To continue. The real economies to collapse are Russia and China. Bank on it.

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>>34227845
I really don't see that happening due to the fact that we'd rather straight up bully everyone for resources rather than die out.

We have the military power, no one could really truly stop us. Russia and China might delay our advance on the world but they'd fall as well, especially considering China falls face first in front of our doctrine of air superiority.

If Russia uses nukes then it's just over for everyone at that point, tactical nukes likely won't be off the table but I'm sure the US would likely hold off for them to go first as a "SEE? THEY USED NUKES!" then fucking glass the diet Soviets.

We'd have to see, there's a noticable chance we might lose but the world is essentially in our pocket at this point and the only way you'll really be able to change that is from the (((inside))).

Pic related will likely be the blueprint of every flag of every country after the Great War, if it ever happens.

>>34227845
>when and if usa fails economicly

never happen

what will happen is USA will spend itself into oblivion and have to devalue its currency which will lead to rampant inflation and a new huge class of homeless and starving people

bigger countries like China will buy USA debt and impose harsh austerity measures

believe it, china has like a 1000 year plan and they have the demographics to achievie it

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>>34227845
good luck commie scum, even if we did go total 3rd world no one would dare invade us, our citizens are better armed than most countries standing armies kek.

theres more guns in america than people, more munitions than the world population.

good fucking luck.

>>34234676
Shit, even Commiefornia would be able to hold off an invasion by Mexico provided the libtards don't decide to sabotage us.

>>34233810
>...the man is playing 4th dimensional chess with the Demoshits marching along like the 3rd Reich
>Reminder, if you're still using general sweeping terms like Demoshit... you aren't just a part of the problem, you're of it's very definition.

huh

>>34228135
>We'd clean-detonate any nukes not in a ready-to-fire configuration so they couldn't be used and also so they contaminate the surrounding area.
>US is failing
>US now has a problem needing to liquidate assets to pay off crushing debt
>US military decides to detonate nukes so they can't be repossessed
>tons of casualties in the rural areas around where the nukes are stored
>US is now even more fucked due to farms being hurt
>US now also has a problem with other countries clearing out a good portion of US military leadership for crimes against humanity
Sounds like a great idea.

>>34229154
And how would the US government pay the soldiers, freshly printed $1,000,000,000 bills?

>>34235601
>How would they pay the soldiers
With your women and your land.

>Muh nukes
Improperly detonated a nuke is just a small bomb that will contaminate the immediate area with it's fissile material.

>>34235816
>With your women and your land.
>US now has a problem with recruitment because most soldiers aren't niggers who are okay with their payment consisting of their superiors looking the other way and letting them they rape and pillage in their own country
>US now also has a problem with other countries clearing out the rest of US military leadership for crimes against humanity
Any more bright ideas?

>>34235601
>paying back debnts
just kill the debtor as you pay him back

>>34235601

>He thinks a clean detonation is the same as a tactical yield.

Nigga it would at most contaminate the base it was stored on.

>>34238218
>the base it was stored on.
You mean the silo that butts up against a farmer's field?

>>34238381

Maybe...