/meg/ - Military Enlistment General

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>>34206037

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I finally broke 14:30 on my two mile run. I was at 18:00 at the beginning of May.

How much harder will it get before I get down to 13:00?

>>34206037
If I'm fag, and I marry a dude, do I still get to move out of the dorms? Or is that for families only?

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>>34206037
Just got told the position i'm applying for in the army has a 12-18 month waiting time as of now, it's Australian army infantry

Fucking hold me bros. I can't keep going I put my application in a year ago.

How do I ace the duck walk?
I think I'm not flexible enough for this shit.

>>34206116
you can still have a family. look up surrogacy.

>>34206116

You get to move out.

Bonus points: if the other dude is also military you get dual BAH. In a lot of places that means you get like $3000+ tax-free a month. Get a $1k/mo apartment and split the other $2k/mo as fun money.

>>34206622
That seems like cheating, I like it.

>>34206590
Nah, I'd be a shit dad and try to groim my kid for SOF or some shit, also, kids need a mom.

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>>34206037
So I just finished at MEPS yesterday and picked my MOS for USAFR, its 2T2X1. What should I expect besides BMT stuff.

Am I stupid for dropping out of my Computer Science degree to be a cyber operations specialist?

Seems like the years of government experience and background check will present better opportunities (especially at places like the NSA and CIA) to me than a degree at a no name state college. And I can still go to college (for free) once I'm done serving.

>>34207075
No, that's a very reasonable career move by any metric.

>>34207075

Joining isn't a terrible idea, but continuing your CompSci program, getting good grades, and an internship at an agency would present the same opportunities.

>>34206088


Just keep consistent, I plan on joining about 2 years from now after college, but i went from 12 min mile to 12min two mile relatively quickly, keep it consistent is VERY important vo2 level decrease way faster than muscle does.
If you find yourself bored or hitting an athletic wall, try sprints or change it up in some way or form.

>>34207168
Well if I would be looking at the same opportunities I feel enlisting would be an even better option for the obvious reasons (benefits, education, brotherhood, honor, etc.)

in one month I am starting as a navy officer in the German Army I am 18 and never held a gun before or was physically fit how fucked am I

>>34207075


You have to understand literally everyone who does those jobs wants to join a 3-letter agency. This includes people from different branches, different MOS, but similar job title.


Get your degree, you're not going to work at CIA or NSA without a degree. 4 years( and a security clearance) + a bachelors in whatever relevant Comp Sci, foreign language, some other shit is a good path into the CIA or FBI or NSA etc etc.
Also someone correct me if I am wrong, but there is loan repayment plans that are similar to the GI bill. It's kinda the whole incentive for college graduates to join. There is quite a lot of people who join after med school to get their massive debt in check.

>>34207271
So it sounds like working in the army for four years with that TS security clearance, earning my comp sci degree for free once I'm done serving, and then applying to jobs I want would be my best choice? I'm not worried about paying off my debt as of now because it's really low.

>>34207271

The med school thing is different. Student loan repayment does not cover med school even remotely, to do that what you've got to do is basically be a cadet while in med school, then you come in as a captain with a six year commitment. What is basically an ROTC scholarship pays for all of med school. With BAH and your medical incentive pay you make more than a resident does, and since residency typically last 4-5 years you're much better off than a civilian doctor is.

After that point you get out and make bank as a doctor since your time in the military counts as your residency. It's a really good deal.

>>34206660

It's illegal to just marry one of your bros and go be roommates off base while collecting extra pay. I'm not sure how they tell the actual gays from the fakers but just be aware that they might pry into your private life.

>>34206622
>>34206660

If you ever plan on getting laid you can be court martialed for adultery, and if you're suspected of scamming money out of the military in this fashion they just might come after you for it. Just wait til E-4 or E-5.

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>have been lurking and occasionally posting in this general for years now
>patiently awaiting the day I can finally enlist
>https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/06/08/services-facing-july-1-deadline-ask-more-time-develop-transgender-policy/102645928/

I am so fucking tired of waiting

>Running every day
>Push ups and crunches 5 times a day
>Lunch now just a drink of blended up veggies and fruits
>Weights every other day
>Will start swimming in August
>Three more months until I walk into the recruiters office

I should have started doing this again a long time ago.

>>34207245

The difference being that staying in school would get you along your desired career path sooner, and you will have less control over your career in the military.

"Brotherhood" and "honor" are also stupid reasons to join the military.

>>34207271

>Also someone correct me if I am wrong, but there is loan repayment plans that are similar to the GI bill. It's kinda the whole incentive for college graduates to join. There is quite a lot of people who join after med school to get their massive debt in check.

There's a few different programs that are basically "the intelligence community will pay for your degree, but in return you have to work for us for X years". It's a pretty sweet gig if that was already your plan.

https://www.intelligencecareers.gov/icstudents.html

>>34207506
>>34207541

>It's illegal to just marry one of your bros and go be roommates off base while collecting extra pay.

It's not illegal. Marriage fraud is illegal. A platonic marriage with a same-sex friend is 100 % legal.

You're right about the adultery thing though. Marriage in the military's eyes doesn't require love or anything like that, but it does require monogamy.

>>34207574
I'm curious about how you think transgendered people should be handled. Assuming you're MtF would you rather go to boot camp with men or women?

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>went to two marine recruitment centers that were actually just shops replacing them
>then went to military enlistment center and no one was in the marine corps office

I'm calling them now. Fucking all that driving. Why is it so hard to join the Marines? The Navy and Army offices were pouring people in and out.

>>34207776
I think a compelling case could be made for sending me to either a men's bootcamp or women's and I don't think I really care. I am going to be hated / shit on / possibly molested at either one and I'm fine with it.

The only thing I don't want is a special snowflake trannies only bootcamp or a solitary confinement boocamp

>>34207870

All the services except the memerines integrated their initial training years ago anyways.

Hey men,
Im a specialist in the Army, I have a few opportunities available to me and I'm wondering if I should take advantage of them or continue the sham life. Im in an infantry unit
My 1SG wants me to be his driver, I dont have much of a say in it anyways, but is this a good gig?

Our armorer is leaving in 6 months my PL wants me to go to armorer school and take his place. Im interested in learning that stuff anyways. Has anybody been an armorer and wanna tell me about it?

Would anyone be able to answer any questions on PMCs, or is it not relevant to this thread?

What can I do as an enlisted man to try and make sure I see combat? I've been suicidal for a few years now but I feel like this would be more fun, and I'm in pretty fucking great endurance shape if I can brag a bit.

>>34207870
If you're okay with being persecuted, what is stopping you from just enlisting right now as a male? Will they just not let you or is it a political thing where you want to hold out for transgender rights?

>>34208643
Travel to 3rd world country. Buy gun. Start shooting people you don't like. Nobody in combat arms wants their battle buddy to be suicidal. Get yourself killed outside of the military without putting the rest of us in danger.

>>34209045
I could have enlisted as a guy a while ago, then come out as trans down the line. But that wasn't a realistic option for me, untreated gender dysphoria makes day to day life nearly unbearable. Definitely think I made the right call putting health before career. It's also important to me that I paid for hormones / laser and stuff myself rather than have taxpayer dollars cover it.

I wouldn't get away with enlisting as a guy now unless I chopped my tits off

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>>34209130
>transniggers goal in life is to kys itself
Tranny suicide rate barely goes down after being "treated"
Stay out of the military reeeeeeee

>>34207574
No one wants degenerate trannies. Women are bad enough. I suggest you find something else to do.

>>34207870

>possibly molested
>I'm fine with it.


l-lewd!

>>34207252
Du hast es durch das Auswahlverfahren geschafft also kannst du in so schlechter Verfassung gar nicht sein und Schießen kann man lernen.
Such dir guten einen Workoutplan für die nächsten Wochen bis zur AGA und such mal im Bundeswehrforum nach Tipps für die Grundausbildung und was empfehlenswert ist mitzubringen.
Wann hast du Abi gemacht?
Für welches Studium bist du eingeplant?
Welche Verwendung hast du erwischt?

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>>34209130

>>34207168
>>34207245
>getting an internship out of a no-name state college
top kek

>>34209130
The military doesn't have a "you must be this transitioned" standard. The requirement is whatever allows you to be stable. That said, don't enlist. It'll be a shit show and you'll probably at least try to kys.

>>34207604
>Pushups and crunches 1-2 times a day
>Week 2 of the C25K program
SHEEEIT
At least I'm a lean 5'11" to start

>>34209130
You'll be the only "woman" who can do decently on the pft. Just remember that being feminine isn't welcome in the military. You're joining an organization that values physical fitness while taking horomones that diminish that. If you don't see the contradiction here, perhaps military is not right for you. Just join nypd or something.

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>>34206384
Apply for the US Army, service guarantees citizenship!

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>>34207870
>possibly molested

no one will want to touch you, don't worry.

I'm 5' 11 3/4" tall. Will they knock me down to the 5"11 weight standard, or will i be lucky and get the 6"0 standard?

>>34206384
get in SAS shape then you emu

>>34209733
asking for army standard

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>>34209733
In the us army they round up after 1/2 inch and round down for 1/2 pounds.

You'll get the 6'0" standard. Insist on it too.

>>34209733
if you are that fat consider losing weight first

>>34207604
why are you waiting to go to the recruiter?

>>34209796
I'm not, I'm at 205, and the cutoff if 195. I'm shooting for 190.

>>34209844
dude lose 20lbs to stay safe

>>34209861
once i get into bct i expect to drop more weight.

>>34209804

Because I don't even want to talk about something like an SOF contract until I know that I'm in good enough shape to pass.

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>Keep up with PT before even talking to a recruiter
>push ups actually keep going down

This is a weird feeling but I'm just gonna go all in on PT and see what happens.

>>34209973
trying stretching out your arms, chest, and back before you go down

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>>34210058
Seems to help a bit anon. My form is correct, chest to floor and arms locked, so I guess the only answer is to push more and harder.

>>34209973
>>34210291

Wait, wait. Are you doing what you would consider a lot of push ups etc? Are you doing might be considered a full workout? Every day?

It's one thing to do a set in the morning, a set at lunch, and a set in the evening with two more sets in there, but if you're doing full on workouts (whatever that means for you) then it makes perfect sense that you'd be losing muscle strength: if you work out every day you lose strength because your muscles aren't being allowed to stitch themselves back together and recover. Don't do that.

You do a full workout every other day, not every day. You can do some jogging and a few light sets of exercises every day, but you do not do anything intensive on a daily basis because that will hurt you not help you.

Dubs I'll join the Marines instead of the Navy.

>>34210580
>>34210580
roll

>>34210580
Only retards join the marines.

>>34210622
welcome aboard

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>>34210622
top kek

>>34210622
Kek

And also give me DUBS

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>>34210622
It's gotta be true
At MEPS I roomed with a marine who failed the ASVAB for Navy twice. Poor dude couldn't get a 50 to save his life

>>34206805
Get on Air Force forums and you'll likely get more input. Reserves are cool and Reservists typically have very long careers because why not? Their general pool of people is high on active duty vets. Great shot at human networking.

Have you visited your base yet? If not, go do that. Reservists are delighted to educate new troops. The only reason I went Active is because I wanted the earlier retirement but Reserve units are a great way to stay at one location for a career while having a second career.

>>34207574
You can't join the military if you're mentally ill.

>>34207075
You can knock out a career while getting your degree and experience then go the second civilian career route which is very, very common.

Fuck actually having to work into your sixties. Knock out 20 or more, slide into a DoD or other civilian slot down the road (you'll already have the security clearance and usually know who hires you) and enjoy a comfortable life. Once you've retired out of the military you have "fuck you money" to take jobs or assignments which please you. My many SNCO retiree bros do just that in a wide variety of fields including IT. It's a nice recession-proof way to go.

The joy of government employment and security clearances is you are far less likely to get outsourced, especially as you advance up the chain.

Think LONG TERM, always. The years rocket by no matter what you do, so have a plan and backup plans.

>>34207305
What is this shit with the Army? Their standards are lower for so many people to fill manning slots that their entire disciplinary system and social structure is geared to the lowest common denominator. I've met some VERY sharp Army and Marinefags but nothing I've seen makes me regret an Air Force career. I've also seen people switch to the AF from all the other services except Coast Guard. Granted Coasties are few, but they seem to be a happy lot.

The Army is what you settle for if all other options dry up.

>>34207684
>"Brotherhood"

is real and surprisingly useful too. You accumulate quite a human network over your career unless you are a shitbag.

Anyone have experience taking advantage of that federal law that says your employer has to keep you if you leave and go active duty for up to 4 years? I'm probably gonna do it.

>>34209130
Femininity is weakness. You could join the Reserves if they'll pay for your body mods then get out after one hitch. Find some slack career like being an Admin troop because they are expected to be useless and no one depends on them in combat.

Everything fags value about femininity is a satire of women, and women are bad enough. I only met three seriously talented and skilled female aircraft mechanics in my 26 year serving. I married one of them and she was even harsher about useless bitches than most guys.

Admin is soft, full of welfare queens and is fairly gay so fitting in would be easy and all you have to do to be considered awesome is, wait for it, your damn job. The best Admin troop I knew was fat, gay, but motivated, smart and kind. Would hire.

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Why would people join the military to do a non-combat job? I know its necessary and somebody has to do it, but it seems like a worse version of a job you could do as a civilian.

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Navy or Army EOD, which one is the best and why?

>>34211169
Benefits, and for people too scared to do combat, bragging rights.
>Look at me, I'm in the Army
>I work behind a desk/fix vehicles/maintain AC units butdonttellanyone

alright I'm probably going to get memed on for this.

Is the Air National Guard a good choice for someone who's putting themselves through college and doesn't want to completely give up home life ext?

I'd love to work with aircraft but I'm really not in a position right now to full on join the air force.

>>34211169
Federal retirement and the benefits package. In many cases it's much better and has advantages civilian employment often lacks.

For example I enjoy electronics and mechanics so I quit college (I was going for an ME degree at Stevens Tech) and joined the Air Force. I liked the travel (tours in Germany, Korea, various deployments), the work schedules in maintenance (if you had shit to do you still get paid and I was good so I got my preferred night and mid shifts), the tech schools (I was comm/nav, crosstrained to engines because Moody AFB bored me, then was crossed to crew chief when the fields were combined). Entry level AMTs and other techs in civilian jobs usually don't have a competitive package not least because they are entry level. I had no desire to be stuck at a civilian airport waiting for my boss to retire so I could move up. If you want to move out from under bullshit in the Air Force, put in for orders. Korea is easy to get and fun if you are single. I was married so it was less fun but would do again. I'm not a pussy so long shifts didn't bother me, and working nights meant cutbacks if everything was ready for next days flying. Met a wide variety of interesting, smart people and stay in touch with a fair number of them.

By the time retirement rolls around the last few years as a supervisor ensure you are ready to collect the deferred compensation you earned and put your skills to use elsewhere. My civilian peers are mostly still working. I don't have to so I'm building my machine shop (training was covered by the G.I. Bill) at home so I can make whatever amuses me. I restore motorcycles for fun.

I've never met a retired G.I. who regrets their career, and my bros include much older vets including Korean war and Viet Nam era.

A short-ish military career lets you enjoy the last third of your life.

>>34206088
I run a 12:30 2 mile. I used to not be able to run half a mile without dying. Do 30 60s. Sprint 30 seconds . Walk 60. Repeat for 1-2 miles. Also run no less than 3 times a week. When you go on an actual run, always run 2 miles or more. In the Army at least you'll never go on a run shorter than 2 miles

>>34206088
Also good shit on improving your run time. That's quite an improvement.
(Same Army fag)

>>34211277
Fuck memes, Air Guard and AF Reserve weenies are usually a good group.

Go visit your local base and talk with some of them. It's easy. Ask your recruiter for contact info or just look up your nearest unit and play phone tag until you reach a supervisor or First Sergeant. The Guard and Reserve aren't desperate for bodies and won't try to bullshit you into joining because then they'd have to work with an unhappy troop.

You may as well learn to be social early on. It will serve you very well and they can give you inside info on what slots to go for. Promotions are different than active duty and sometimes faster. One of my old Airmen went Reserve, got into training and made SMSgt easily and early because he knew his shit. He'll likely retire as a Chief, and he got to be there for his kids.

>>34211169

There are plenty of reasons. You can work on a field you enjoy and still get all the benefits.I personally do want a combat job for autistic reasons but where not for those reasons i would probably look for a mechanical job.

I would never do infantry, that job does looks like shit.

>>34211362
Consider aviaton. People who can actually understand machinery are an asset.

>>34211169
I'm joining the medical field, because I can get a job in the civilian sector with my training and experience. I agree I could have done all this without the military, but ultimately I'm getting paid for job training and experience without having to worry about akhmed blowing my legs off with an ied

>>34211277

Yes. I'll tell you a secret since you're asking.

Mostly reservists and guardsmen are perceived correctly as being less competent at their core skills than active duty military. This is largely due to spending less time training and using them in the field, so they aren't as up to speed as they ought to be.

Active duty pilots typically only get 150-400 hours in the air due to queep. Reserve and ANG pilots get that many doing drill, and if they really, really want to they can get even more hours because there's always extra paid drill that somebody in your unit doesn't want that you can gobble up.

If you reeeeeeally wanted to do a reserve job and get as good or better at it than active, you could commission in the AFR or ANG as a pilot for student loan repayment, or enlist then commission through OTS as a pilot once you have your degree.

Oh, and don't blow up my spot. It'll be six years before I can do this and I don't want those slots flooded.

>>34210990
>tfw had to go to transgender admin procedures briefing 2 weeks ago at my base

What's a good MOS to look into if I can't get into 35 series?

If you ain't 03xx you ain't shit

Yo anon-san that discord invite up there in the OP is expired.

>>34211338
Thanks anon I'll definitely consider doing that
>>34211649
So can you become a pilot while completing your degree? Will an AA be enough or do they need a BA/BS for a pilot role? For me being a pilot would be the dream, I wouldn't care what it is I fly as long as I fly.

>>34209578

I work in the IC. Most of our interns are from state schools.

You have no idea what you're talking about, apparently.

>>34211169
because they pay me to learn how to do the job

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>always wanted to be a SEAL and trained every day
>already talking to a recruiter to iron out the details
>girlfriend didn't want me to enlist because she was too afraid I would get killed
>went to college for mechanical engineering instead just to please her
>she broke up with me last month for some bullshit reason, took all my shit with her and made all our friends hate me
>MFW I'm going to BUD/S fueled by anger and sadness

>>34211178
Depends what you want. Both start with the same knowledge of ordnance/IEDs/CBRNELBGT coming out of training.

The Navy component is a lot smaller and their units tend to be all set up the same, which is to support special operations. Their post-course training focuses a lot on shooting and tactical stuff, their EOD courses tend to focus on expedient clearance of IEDs and breaching. Deep ordnance and technical IED knowledge takes a backseat to tactical expedience in support of getting focused operations through areas. They do support for SEALs obviously, but also other branches.

Army EOD is a larger component and has more variety in unit types. You have dedicated SF support units with their own screening, you have *the* CBRN expert unit (so if you are a chemical or nuclear fanatic, this is the place to go), and then there are the standard units who do a little of everything. Standard units may be called to do SF support rotations, Global Response Force standby, or being on stateside response to be called by law enforcement. Training tends to be more focused on ordnance and IEDs, with tactical training taking a back seat. Overseas they (along with USMC and USAF) can expect to get whored out to ever special operations and civilian agency under the sun for work.

There is a lot of overlap, Navy guys will do some deep ordnance training, and Army will do some in-depth tactical/shooting training. Priorities are just tilted. Funding for both branches is fairly high, though it kind fluctuates depending on the mission and whims of military policy.

Both branches do security work, often collaborating on bigger operations.

>>34211829

No. You can be a pilot after you complete your degree.

>>34212159
Depends what you want out of it, but for the personal $0.02, the Army has in general a lot deeper understanding of the nitty gritty of ordnance which is valuable to the job field. A lot of the younger Navy guys get too sucked into the allure of "being cool" and forget to put in the time to learn the autistic ordnance details important to the job.

If you go in as Navy and actually put the time in to learn things not culturally pushed like ordnance and robots (at least the packables like the i310s and similar) you are a multi-use asset.

If you go in as Army, make sure to keep keen on the same knowledge and make sure to hop at tactical training opportunities, you are a great multiuse asset. If you get a stron understanding of ordnance and are driven to be tactical, you can apply for the 18th to dedicate yourself to special operations support.

Slacking on either end in either branch leaves you kind of floating. There is a lot of deep branching in the field that isn't immediately evident, and getting where you want relies on really putting in the time.

If I'm going to have a college degree when I enlist, is it completely dumb to enlist in an MOS that I most likely won't use in the civilian world?

>>34212195
AA degree or BA/BS?

>>34212358

Bachelor's.

>>34212314
It depends what you're looking to get out of it and how long you're willing to stay. If you just wanna shoot sandniggers then just wait a few years until the next big war.

How hard is it to go into an SOF as a 35F, and what's the process like getting into it?

>>34212314

Every /meg/ has like three of these posts.

>I'm not a mouth-drooling retard but I want to do infantry, please suck my dick.

There's lot of smart people in dumb jobs. Most of them end up regretting it when they realize nobody gives a fuck that they aren't actually a dumbfuck, they'll get treated like a child just like everyone else.

It's an objectively stupid choice, but you do you.

>>34212629

Quickest route is just to pick up a RASP slot or SOT-A slot in AIT.

There are other opportunities you learn about later, but most other stuff wants experienced NCOs.

>>34212719
Is their special training for an SOT-A slot, like for the Rangers?

>>34212633
I didn't say anything about being in the Infantry. In my case, I've always wanted to be a medic in the Army, but I don't really have a desire to be an EMT when I get out of the Army. Is it dumb to pursue that?

>>34207837
I'm not trying to join the Marines but it's been really difficult to get in contact with any recruiter from the branch I want to join. You'd think they would make it easy

>>34212822

You're probably romanticizing medic in your head. The average medic in 2017 isn't saving lives from gunshot wounds, they're handing out motrin at an aid station, swabbing dickholes for STDs, and forcibly rehydrating people who are too dumb to drink water.

Do whatever makes you happy as long as you don't later bitch about a choice you made.

>>34211169
Even with decent qualifications and certifications, I've been getting turned down for almost every job I apply to because I don't have five eons of experience. As a .mil I get
>free training for a job I want to do
>a little money to get back on my feet since I'm broke
>decent healthcare
>TS clearance for future jobs
>learn to discipline myself since I became lazy and unmotivated after highschool
and most importantly
>100% tuition coverage in my state, plus GI bill
The trick is I'm joining the NG, so I'll be able to take advantage of all that stuff after training. Not such a bad deal for someone who's never been able to pay for school and has no savings

>>34209709
Considering it tbqh, how would a 21 year old Australian man go about this?

>>34212031
Good...for you? Don't know why you let her control you like that.

>fort leonard wood in a month and some change

how fucked am i

>>34206384
Wait what
Did you have medical/paperwork issues during enlistment or something

When you get out of boot camp do they give you a full 10 days or can they tell you to just come back after a weekend? Someone told me the latter, but I don't really believe them.

>>34214504
No, just rang them to check on my application and they told me of the wait.

>>34214753
How's your aptitude test/fitness go or did you not do those yet?
Also, Sydney?

>>34214762
Done the you session, yet to have an assessment day.

QLD

Going to ring them up again monday and try and find out what's going on.

>>34214770
Good luck mate
I heard different states have different quotas for each financial year, maybe Queensland's done for the time being

>>34214786
Considering the financial year began 10 days ago i'd be bloody surprised, that and I've been waiting for what feels like forever.

And cheers mate.

>>34206037
>waiting
I've been waiting for a year, i'm not gonna get in unless there's another war.

Shit sucks

>>34214690

What "full 10 days"? Usually you get about a day to spend with your family and then you're off to your next training assignment.

>>34211976
It's because anons here have consistently pushed the meme of only Olympic athletes with multiple PhDs, who speak ten languages at a native level of fluency, and come from old money work in the IC.

And then when you point to openly available hiring information and qualifications present in job postings, they'll claim it's fake news.

>>34214291
>>fort leonard wood in a month and some change
>how fucked am i

Completely fucked. You're going to break your pelvis while in TRADOC. You'll get chaptered out for medical, develop a bad opiate habit which will cause your friends and family to leave you, and your dick will stop working so you'll murder a prostitute in an impotent rage after she makes fun of you because you can't get it up.

Which MOS helps give you experience for higher paying jobs in the civilian world, 35M or 35F?

>>34207870

If it's the army, navy, usaf, or coast guard it's not the training you'll need to worry about because it's integrated (if you're not 11x) , it's the housing. If you have a penis you're gonna be living with the other males and if you have a vag you'll be with the females. The army may let you have special accommodations for showers (since group showers) if you don't feel safe, they could give you private accommodations like a curtain in your shower and around your bunk.

If it's the Marines it'll be both the housing and training because usmc segregates. The Marine corps may not even want you just to avoid the hassle. Or if they do enlist you they'll put you with the men if you have a penor regardless if you look like a woman and tell the recruits to not rape your butt.


Also keep in mind that if you do get special accommodations, the other trainees are gotta hate you because of that. Some trainees are gonna doubly hate you because you're a tranny and get special accommodations.

Just don't enlist

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Whats the biggest thing you've seen someone not disclose to MEPS and go on to successfully enlist/commission?

I want to be a technical writer (as a career) but no universities in my state offer it as a degree program; just a minor. I dropped out last semester partially due to my disenchantment with my school and my belief that I'll never get the major I really want. Would enlisting in any US Military branch potentially get me started in the technical writing field?

>>34212208
>>34212159


This is really good insight, thank you.

>>34215733

Technical writing isn't really a field within the military. The military could definitely finance your education going forward though.

Your best bet if you wanted applicable experience would probably be to take on an intelligence job, particularly some sort of analysis/reporting role. Military writing doesn't use the same style as technical writing, but you should receive plenty of experience putting together reports and learning how to accurately and concisely convey information.

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What kinds of MOS get sent to Africa, besides linguists? How does one get sent to the real shitholes?

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>>34215182

>>34215752
If the Information on the EOD subreddit is correct which I assume, Army EOD is over strength and supposed to be cut down by 14 companies.
Currently you better try Navy if you can swim properly and Air Force if you can't, altough you may wait up to a year till you get shipped out if you choose Air Force.
https://www.reddit.com/r/EOD/comments/3h985k/deciding_which_branch_to_enlist/

hey, i've never really been to this board before but i figured i'd check it since im going in SOON
I have 1 year of mandatory service and i got put in the air force. i was hoping for army but oh well. so i think i have a couple of things that interest me; there's the uhh communications platoon (not sure if that's what you call it in english), the engineer platoon and the air defence artillery. though the last one seems a bit ehh.

I'm rather green on all of this, but if anyone has any info it'd be appreciated. also, how does it work afterwards, am i forever locked to serving in the air force once I've been there?

>>34206037
so I've finally made it into something after being DQ'd from every other branch. Now I'm in the guard, I know there's a process to go active, how long should I wait before I try?

I'm taking my first steps to becoming /fit/, I feel now like I'm actually doing something with my life. Wish me luck /k/

>>34216646
Forgot to mention I'm doing it so I can join the military

>>34215157

Yeah, don't they know those guys all went State Department?

>>34216177
tfw you will never operate in africa
feels bad man

Is anybody here AF SOF SERE?
I heard they make you raise a rabbit and eat it when you get hungry. I'll do anything to be SERE bros it's a life calling.

>>34216177
SF/MARSOC

>>34216177

Everything SOF. Everyone doing support for SOF.

>>34217465
they say that about literally anyone who's allegedly 'hard'. It's not true in the slightest

>>34217524
Say what?

>>34217524

>they say that all of these so called Navy SEALs guys are tough, but my hands are registered as lethal weapons

>>34214690
For what Marines? Yea you get a ten day leave as long as you report to MCT at the end of tenth I believe.

>>34215605
I didn't see it personally but based according to Serial, Bowe Bergdahl tried to hurt himself during coast guard basic training and still got in the Army. He also didn't understand jokes or hyperbole very well. Someone said they were having a conversation about Holland and while everyone else talking about weed and whores he was spouting out economic data. It sounds like he literally had Asperger's.

What is the smallest active duty MOS?

>>34215605
4chan poster
Everyone I know spills their username and post history so that they don't make themselves a liar when confronted.

>>34215605
Not MEPS, and they had already got a position, but something far more important.

Admitted to having killed his best friend when he was 14. It was accidental, but he had lied to the police saying his friend slipped. They'd been messing around in an abandoned marshaling yard and he'd fallen 50 feet onto the concrete.

I do not know what led him to admit to it then, but it really did throw a spanner in the works.

35F, 35L, 35M?
Prefer humint over other intel sources, for 35F considering 350F subdesignation

Worth my while?
Anyone with those MOS's willing to share experiences?

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So about that Personality Test they had us take at MEPS, TAPAS.

Does that ever factor into anything like getting particular job assignments or duty stations?

Or is it just for statistical purposes (Job X tends to have these types of people / These type of people tend to get recycled at basic / People who request for this base exhibit Y trait)?

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>>34211362
Plot twist.
It's the greatest fucking job in the Army.

>>34219311
>Infantry during peacetime
>Great job
No.

>>34219358
Peacetime usually doesn't last very long for Americans. Afghanistan is falling apart, Turkey has been going full retard and I wouldn't be surprised to see a war with Iran.

>>34219311
>How to trick the lowest percentile applicants to sign up with this one simple trick!

I swear you guys have so little self awareness of how stupid you sound jerking off over that cord.

>>34218777
I hope you didn't lie.

>>34219404

Tell that to pretty much anyone who has enlisted in the last 7~ years and got out with no opportunity to deploy

>>34219404
There won't be another major war for about 20 years.

>>34219574
Please don't tell me you actually believe this.

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>>34219358
"Peacetime"


Airborne unit in Alaska tapped for Afghanistan deployment - News - Stripes


82nd Airborne already on way to Afghanistan as Trump mulls more ...


U.S. Army Will Send 1,500 Troops To Afghanistan For Summer 2017


The U.S. is sending 2,500 troops to Kuwait, ready to step up the fight in Syria and ...


Trump to Send 2,500 82nd Airborne Troops to Back Forces Fighting ISIS


The 75th Ranger Regiment hits the ground in Syria for Raqqa offensive ...

>>34219588
There will never be another country v. country war with nuclear capabilities. The next major war will be after a major isis attack, which will probably take years to plan something of that big of a scale. 20 years might be a stretch, but it will be a long LONG time.

>>34219620
Not anon that's yet posted, but those really are piddily bullshit numbers. Out of that list, the only guys being tapped for combat are Rangers who are Special Operations.

A "deployment" to Bagram Afghanistan is basically going to be "we had mortars shot at the base like twice in 6 months and then CRAM shot them down".

Kuwait isn't isn't a deployment- no patch.

Notice all the casualty reports you ever hear anymore are SOF- Rangers, SEALs, Green Berets, etc. Guys from 10th Mountain or 82nd Airborne are not patrolling combat zones, much less conducting any offensive operations.

>>34219656
>ISIS attack
>20 years from now

>>34219966
I'm talking about a large scale ISIS attack. Bombing Ariana Grande concerts isn't going to start a full fledged war.

>>34220014
I guess I should have just said that I don't think ISIS is going to be a threat within 20 years.

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Is it true everyone goes through a moto phase after they graduate?

Would I get more time to study in the navy or the airforce? Im just 8 pounds away from being able to enlist and I want to make a good decision.

>>34220027
It's hard to eradicate insurgents. Especially when there's a political ideology in your own country that defends them every chance they get.

>>34220082
It's entirely dependent on your MOS and assignment, not branch.

>>34220086
We are pretty much watching the downfall of ISIS as an entity. There is no ISIS without them holding ground to establish a "caliphate". They're just insurgents and it isn't as if ISIS in Syria and ISIS in Iraq were so tight either. They'll splinter apart like Al-Qaeda did.
Will there be Islamic extremists 20 years down the road? Sure, they've been a thing since the turn of the 20th century. Will the ISIS we know and love be around? No.

>>34220051
for some, it never ends

t. your Bn CSM

>>34220209
In pretty sure those guys get programmed at SGM school.

>>34220170
>Will the ISIS we know and love
>love
Reported to the FBI

>>34220227
deprogrammed*

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>>34220241
I'VE BEEN FOUND OUT

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>>34220170
>They'll splinter apart like Al-Qaeda did

ISIS literally started as an Al Qaeda affiliate. His whole caliphate plan was a long-standing one with other Al Qaeda leaders, but he tried to trigger it decades before everyone else thought he was ready.

The problem is that any lieutenant who goes back to Central Asia or Southeast Asia is a potential terror cell. Rather than all the extremists focused in one place, they'll scatter around the world and try to do the same shit they're doing in the Philippines and with Al Shebab in Africa.

There are going to be more militant Islamists in every country with a large enough muslim population for decades. The question is whether they'll ever have the resources to pull another 9/11 and get us involved in a big way.

>>34220398
>His

Zarqawi, I mean.

Can an actual grunt/operator/pilot/trigger puller of some sort tell me if you actually used "hostiles," "tangos," "bad guys," "motherfuckers," etc. in combat?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKnlpH5EAG0

This looks fun as hell. Why does everyone say peacetime infantry is boring?

>>34220488
Because this makes up like 0.1% of what infantry does during peacetime.

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>>34220522
Oh. Will I actually be painting rocks?

>>34212754
Yes, SOT-A now have an established pipeline; it'a essentially a copy of the one our OSTs go through.

>>34220561
Is it really hard? I've never heard anything about it before

>>34220548
You'll be mopping the grass 9 days a week most likely

>>34220617
35P, before you even get into the SOF side of things, has one of the highest washout rates.

I wanna be a pilot in the AF. How do?

>>34220967
You're on 4chan. Join the marines instead.

>>34221033
Could I be a mruhreen pilot?

>>34220967
you need a college degree

I'm actually in the Army and I have a question about retention to anyone that can answer. I came in with an 11B contract and I completed OSUT and now I'm being re-classed from 18x which is a contract I gained in OSUT. I was told I was more than likely like 99% chance not going to be Infantry because it's over strength but I just checked and according to this (http://www.armyreenlistment.com/Messages/MILPER/In_Out_Calls_17_154_20170510.pdf) it's balanced, and in fact they have a shortage on Charlies.

Anyways, I just checked my ERB and it says my PMOS is 11B but my ACT still says I'm 18x. I'm confused. Did I manage to keep 11B and if I didn't how might I be able to. Just asking here because I'm desperate to stay Infantry and grasping at straws here.

What's the difference between the 101st and the 82nd?

>>34221782
While the 101st claims to be Airborne with it's division patch, it is actually an Air Assault unit. It retains that patch as it was historically an Airborne unit like during WWII. 82nd actually is a legit Airborne unit.

>>34221807
Is it possible to go to both Airborne school and Air Assault school? If so, are there any benefits to doing so?

>>34221863
Yes, it is possible to do so. The only tangible benefit you get are some extra promotion points when you want to level up.

tbqh, air assault school is kinda useless. They spend way too long teaching you how to rappel, do a bunch of loadmaster shit they'd never trust somebody who wasn't a specialist to do, and then the rest of the school is ruckmarching your butt around.

99% of air assault operations overseas for most guys is "Ok, we get in the helicopter now. Ok, we hop off now."

Airborne school qualifies somebody for airborne ops, which is nice because you get them extra monies rolling in on the regular in an airborne unit. Additional tbqh is that no matter how hard you wish it, there is a next to zero chance of a conventional US unit doing large scale airborne drops ever again, it just doesn't make tactical sense (muh 2003 combat jump. lol no, that was a Hollywood jump set up by self serving officers, not something that made a hair of tactical impact).

>>34221863
Yes. Of course. Really the only benefit is promotions. The best way to do both is to try and secure an airborne contract when you enlist. You will more than likely end up at an Airborne unit after completion of Airborne school. Once there put in a packet to go to Air Assault. The reason you should probably do it like this is because it's much harder to get a slot at Airborne school once you are in the big army than when you are enlisting but people qualified to do Air Assault are basically always in demand. You can literally go to as many schools as you want for the most part just so you know, even if your MOS doesn't really need it.

I'm entertaining the idea of joining the army, but I have a slight bit of patellar tendinitis, which effects my ability to jump and sprint. Otherwise, I have above average fitness. Will the army accept me and help me get treatment or will I get rejected outright?

>>34222029
Can you run? I dunno to be honest senpai, but running and sprinting is a lot of what happens. The Army generally doesn't like accepting people that *need* to be fixed for their use.

>>34222029
They will accept you if you don't say anything. I knew a guy who joined with mother fucking Lupus. Once you are in though they will treat you.

>>34222055
>>34222056
I can run for miles at a good pace and hike nonstop from morning to night just fine, it's just that tendinitis is kind of a bitch to treat in that it recovers extremely slow and gets worsened very easily (you can easily undo months of recovery with just one bad jump). I guess I can tough out training but if I do it might worsen to an unrecoverable state, which is what I'm afraid of.

>>34222242
>you can easily undo months of recovery with just one bad jump
>I guess I can tough out training but if I do it might worsen to an unrecoverable state, which is what I'm afraid of.

Yeah, my dude, if one bad jump can take you out of action I see bad things in your future. You do all kinds of jumping exercises in basic, not to mention all the field training requiring you to sprint and jump and climb and shit. You have very little recovery time in basic. You'll get pretty fucked up.

I'd pony up cash and fix that shit before joining if you really have your heart set on it.

>>34222263
Yeah, I guess it'd be smarter to wait a year and get my knee sorted out first.

>>34219527
>>34218777
An army recruiter told me it's to find out if your literally a crazy motherfucker -- and it was able to fail at some point but they changed that

If your answers were highly unusual and tantamount to insanity, they probably scrutinize you more heavily than a regular joe

Can any sailors here tell me if they do a food allergy test during p-days at bootcamp? If someone lied about an allergy would it be likely that it would be found out from testing or looking at medical records?

>>34222554
no clue about allergy testing but severely doubt it, also the military has no way of getting your medical records - the burden of proof is almost if not always on you

>>34222578
How can that be true? What's stopping them from calling my hospital and asking about me?

>>34217614
>>34217661
I meant that they don't make you raise a fucking rabbit and then eat it. I've heard that same line about SEALs, SERE, Rangers, Royal Marines, you name it.

>>34222880
no one has the time for that shit, how many people do you think join the military? But if you have a severe allergic reaction they might check out your records, but if no reaction, they have no reason to check

>>34222986
Thanks, I'm pretty confident that I'll be able to avoid having a reaction because of all of the options that they have for food. As long as they don't do a test it sounds like I'll be fine from what you're saying.

>>34223023
what are you allergic to?

>>34223041
Peanuts, I don't have a reaction to peanut oil though.

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Serious question what would posses anyone to join the USMC over the Army? Isn't it just worse in every way?

>Pros to being Marine over Soldier?

>>34206088
>3 min 30 sec improvement
>1 month
What did you fix anon?

Probably a bad idea to ask here, but hey:
I'm 25 years old and have about 1-1.5 years left before I finish my business degree (MIS). Not really a big gunfag or care much about war. I don't have much direction in my life and I honestly don't know what I want to do once I finish college. Is there something for me in the military? Looking more specifically at Navy since Air Force recruitment ends after you're 26.

where do they give you all the shots

butt? right arm left arm?

>>34223320
Bragging rights for poor self-esteem idiots.

>>34220967
Get a PPL and college degree then join the ANG or Reserves

>>34222920

Al Qaeda told the locals that CCTs got their red berets by killing their own mothers and dipping their berets in her blood.

>>34223921
Both arms, usually. If you're really behind on vaccines then be prepared to get stuck a dozen times

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Can I join the Air Force with pronation?

what's the worst part of your guys' military service

>>34225099
yes, provided no issues with doing PT

>>34215329
Seconding this.

How hard is it to get into navy ocs?
How hard is ocs in general?

>>34225597
Also, is 35 series as full of weebs as I've heard? And how much does that go down in Airborne?

>>34215329

Both depend heavily on what kind of experience you get while in. 35M also depends on what language you get, some are obviously more marketable than others.

>Be me
>Be 21
>Never really decided what to do for most of my life, over past two years the Army has been strongly appealing to myself.
>Applied to join Army last November after finally being fit enough to pass physical tests at selection
>Able to do comfortable 10:30 mile & half time
>Easily pass 50 pressups in two mins
>Easily pass 50 situps in two mins
>Had an interview in Leeds, passed it EZ due to obscure further education course run by vets that helped a tonne.
>Awaited medical docs.
>Filled in what I could myself, had to book an appointment with GP due to parts of form (being standard local waiting times due to NHS infastructure not being up to scratch for the large population of the UK, waiting time is a month.
>Get GP appointment, fill forms out, they send them off
>Takes a couple of weeks to process and be sent off.
>Get a letter of deferment due to a one off seizure I had when I was 13 which was mis-reported as two. GG NHS
>Also deferred for a diagnosis of ASD/Asperges (literally pronounced ass-burgers because German lol.)
>Immediately start making letter of appeal, this requires a supporting letter from GP (Another month)
>Send letter off, get a letter back around a week later from medical office saying my case in under review, they will write back in 21 days at most.
>Get a letter back finally after 19 days.
>Says i'm still deferred for ASD/Asperges. (Fair enough I didn't get a letter from GP addressing the ASD, only the seizure.
>Oh well, try numero two.
>Book an appointment with GP
>Earliest date they could get me is the 28th June.
>I booked it around a week ago.
>NHS amirite

As a result i'm still waiting, hoping to get into the Coldstream Guards. I guess I just have to wait this out and see if I can convince the Medical Assement guys that my case of ASD is mild.

Waiting does rather badly take the piss though.

>>34225680

More weeb heavy than most fields. There's still normies though, and probably a higher ratio in line units.

>>34225751
Is better experience just luck based, or do the schools you go to for training also help you to get good experience. Maybe a combination of both?

>>34225881
When I say luck based, I mean like the experience you got is just from different assignments you're given out of your control

So I want to go into military intelligence. Should I go Air Force, Army, or Navy? Should I enlist or go Officer?

>>34225947

Depends on what kind of intel you want to do and whether you want to have your cake upfront and not get to eat it later, or have your cake later.

>>34226017
I am prepared to make it a career. I can wait for my cake. I just want to know what branch would be the best for a career in a field where you are gathering intel on an enemy or something similar.

>>34226116

...you don't know much about intel, do you? There are multiple disciplines of intelligence collection and depending entirely upon which one you want to specialize in your career path will be different.

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>>34209130

most if not all branches allow trans pre/post op to join, you just need to get medically cleared. They try to keep it on the down low, just like military supports gay marriage.

>>34225611
Depends on your GPA/degree and what designator you're applying to
it's not that hard
worst part is the 3 weeks of indoc, which isn't even that bad in itself, after that it's pretty easy

>Just signed up for the Navy
>Have an intense fear of water
>Intense fear of water leads me to an intense fear of boats
>Can't swim due to me being afraid of water
>I'm not even a pilot for the Navy
Am I fucked? I'm hoping that all of this will help me get over my fear.

>>34217465
>>34217524
>>34217614
>>34222920
>>34224491
Guatemalan special forces raise a puppy then kill and eat it, and some other third world countries do this too, but Western militaries don't

>>34226699
Genuinely autistic decision making

>>34226699
Nice dubs.

But also you're mostly made of water.

Sleep tight.

How do you even wash?

I wanna go 17C in US Army, however, I am not 100% positive what I need to know to be able to make it throught the selection/training process. Recruiter's trying to scare me out of it. Any tips or tricks?

Is there anything else like 17C in any of the branches? By that I mean high-intelligence, somewhat classified/secret jobs primarily using computers.

>>34226915
airforce has something like that but you need to have been prior service in another cyber job to do it

>>34227056
Shit. I graduated high school a few weeks ago, haven't been able to get a cyber job.

>>34222920
Do you know how the torture aspect of SERE is handled? Is it a test where you fail if you "break" or is it just an experience so you can last longer next time?

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I ship out tomorrow. Wat do

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>>34206116
You should kill yourself first.

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>>34207574
You don't belong in the military, but you do belong dead. Find the difference.

>>34228115
what branch?

Do I have to wait to ship off to basic until after my clearance investigation is done, or do I ship and get an interim clearance?

>>34207870
Everything except for the molested part seems about right. You are disgusting human shit. Why wouldn't people treat you like you are?

>>34228170
You ship with an interim. You even start AIT with an interim up to the point they actually start showing you classified materials.

>>34228156
Air Force

>>34228180

Good deal, thank you very much.

My job needs TS clearance. What all will they investigate? Who will they interview?

>>34228190

They will evaluate you to see if you're a security risk. They can talk to anyone starting with family/friends and branching out from here by getting more contacts as they talk to people.

>>34228213
Is it true they can go through your internet history and shit? Also. How far or deep down will they go?

>>34206037
So what's combat engineer like?

>>34213310
You have to become a lawful permanent resident of the USA, ergo get your green card. Then you can enlist, and you'll be granted citizenship 99/100 times in Basic.

>>34226195
3.5 / business administration
No idea on designator and still looking around

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>tfw joined the military because I got tired of beta orbiting a girl and wanted to see if she'd like me if I was in shape
I didn't think this out too well.

>>34228533

Young men unlucky in love have been doing what you have been doing for a long time anon. Welcome to a time honored tradition.

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>>34228533
>not having a 2d waifu instead
top kek. i'll see you 3d-whore-loving fags at ocs.

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>>34228603
>These are the types of people who will be leading me

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>>34228603

Not the worst taste, but not quite patrician tier.

>>34228231

You should expect to have your public internet presence scrutinized by any employer. That's just common sense in 2017. Clean up your Facebook.

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>>34228624
selvaria is the top tier

>>34228231
They're going to find out you're a weeaboo nazi.

Airman (3D1X2/3D0X2) here.

Ask me anything about "the cyber", office chairs, boot camp, tech school, AF life, or autism.

>>34228663

How accessible are green door jobs from where you sit?

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>>34228618
>petty officer, why are you fucking shit up?
>sorry sir, i got jodi'd
>i got just the thing for you. *pulls out high school fleet and kancolle*
>what are these
>your therapy. enjoy your break

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>>34206037
Hello /k/, long time no browse. So when i was younger I was going to join the Royal Marines, but I got diagnosed with ASPD and ended up going on to study physics instead. My diagnosis is being revoked however, do you reckon that means I can get in now? Anyone here have experience with the Royal Marine reservists? I don't want to abandon my degree, but fuck me if I don't want to get the green beret while I'm still young.

I'm getting a position offered this week.
I can feel it.
Those other 54 weeks were false alarms
This is the real week.

>>34228663
average work day?
workload of the tech scool after basic?
experience with coworkers?

>>34228696
>get degree
>enlist
>be hazed endlessly, both for being old and for having a degree
>shoot brown people

>>34228772
I'm trying to think, will my brown people shooting opportunities be hindered substantially in the reserves? I'm sure when I first looked into it, that reservists were regularly deployed with full time members on combat operations, but it's been a while so I could be wrong. The downside with slotting pakis full time is it doesn't pay quite as much as my other career options.

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>Successful writer
>Enlisting at 27 while shooting for SOF for one last adventure before I become a full time adult

Am I being a romantic dumbass?

>>34228679
From my assignment? Very.
What interests you about green door?

>average work day?
Yours would probably be something like this:
>report at 7:30AM
>BS with coworkers and do tickets and shit
>1hr lunch
>PT is often included in the work day, we leave for PT at 3 and are released by 4:30

>workload of the tech school after basic?
If you have computer experience it's not hard, just allocate ~30min/night to doing the homework or studying.
Sec+ was the real killer but it's likely that it won't be there when you go through.

>experience with coworkers?
Basically similar to IT guys you would find anywhere else, with the occasional EOD/SpecOps washout who won't shut up about being specops.
A bit more military minded, but that's to be expected.

>>34228752
Sorry I fucked it up, didn't quote your post, here's your (you) and red exclamation point.

>>34228823

I have a hard on for doing coolguy things. Trying to weight green door stuff against special tactics for what the best opportunity is. Finding stuff on green door jobs as a civilian is hard though.

>>34228806
>English (creative writing) degree
>"A reader lives a thousand lives..."
>Just want to create stories for other people to enjoy
>Realize I've never had a story
>Drop out for an 18x contract to try and go SF

me too bro

>>34228823
Well my experience will probably be different as I'm doing 17C in the army, just looking at what the field looks like in general.

I have quite extensive experience with computers already, and I work in IT for a school so tickets and all that isn't foriegn.

I'm expecting a lot of security coursework as 17C is cyber operations (defending/attacking hacking).

>>34206037
Wait, what is wrong with Nuke?

>>34228843
>I have a hard on for doing coolguy things
Look at 1B4. Greendoor can be either/or, where you can be working with some neat missions, or you can be doing basic maintenance, except the equipment just says "Top Secret" on it.

1B4's are the real cyber defense/offense guys. You can only get it by retraining from another career field, but you'd probably do well to enlist as a 3d1x2 or 3d0x2, where you can learn how things are done, get some certs + experience, and then kill the tech school.

>>34228897
Sounds equivalent to 1B4... so no you won't be doing tickets and stuff like that. You'll have a different sort of ops construct, but it's fun in its own sort of way. 45 week AIT through...

I'm a 3D1X2 doing a 1B's job, so that's how I know about this stuff.

>>34228974
people keep mentioning the long ait in a worrying tone, shouldn't i be excited about learning stuff i love a year?

>>34227101
if you dont mind waiting you could get another cyber job with the air force. hell you might not have to wait

>>34229022
Imagine boot camp fused with grade school. That was my tech school experience.

Not sure if AIT is the same way, but you're basically treated like pleb scum. Not that it didn't have it's really good parts, but a year of it is a bit much.
On the plus side you should have a fuckton of cash and leave saved up at the end.

>>34229022

1. AIT sucks, as an environment.
2. Cyber AIT is hard, a lot of people fail and end up having to do something else.

On the upside, you will be spending the first half of training in Florida, which is a better place to do AIT than most places the Army does it.

>>34229314
What makes florida so great?
Is the AIT hard because it has some sort of intense schedule or because muh cs meme?
Will I be given adequate time to study outside of class?
What should I do to prepare?

>>34229472

Because you're near the beach in a town with decent nightlife (Pensacola), as opposed to in a desert in the middle of nowhere like most AIT training sites.

It's a lot of info at once + all of the regular AIT fuckery. You can study outside of class as long as whatever you're studying isn't classified.

How does a 35M get attached to an SF ODB? Airborne seems like an obvious prerequisite, but what else?

>>34219358
Implying infantry doesn't deploy all the fucking time, especially airborne & 10th mountain

>>34229745
Pure chance

>>34229751
Infantry is outdated and literally has no use outside of yard work for the bases.

>>34229751
If I see one more nigga saying Kuwait is a combat deployment...

>>34230062

These days "Kuwait" means Syria, at least from what I've heard from people who went to Kuwait.

>>34230085

Kuwait means Kuwait for 99.9% of people who go to Kuwait.

It means Syria for a small percentage of SOF folks, as well as anyone wanting to act like they actually did shit when they went to Kuwait (they didn't).

How do I get in the discord? Keeps saying invite is expired.

>>34230123

I guess I know a lot of interesting folks.

>>34228244
>So what's combat engineer like?
I would also like to know this, any engie input is great.

>>34230085
Holy lol. No. It means sitting in Kuwait.

Let me put this another way for you duders who think "infantry is totally seeing combat right now". When is the last time a non-SOF dude got a CIB or CAB for anything other than a mortar getting shot at the FOB (and getting shredded by CRAM 99% of the time)? Seriously, go ask dudes getting deployed to Afghanistan or "deployed" to Kuwait. And don't fall for the "Dude I was totally in a bunch of firefights but it's classifed bro." line.

>>34230148
Whoever they are, they ain't line infantry, which is what we are talking about.

>>34230220
>Whoever they are, they ain't line infantry
Holy fuck, you're retarded. I was deployed for Quwait for 6 months and we fucking saw combat about 5 times. Small arms combat, but combat nonetheless.

>>34230306
I was disputing that "Kuwait *really* means Syria". Learn to comment chain.

Were you inside the wire at the time?

>>34230306
>Quwait
Infantry confirmed

How hard is it to get deployed in the ADF right now?

>>34228663
What was it like getting TSC? I'm just joining and I'm worried about private investigators digging too deep and finding out that I smoked weed more than twice like I said. Also, did you get that job when you joined or did you transfer?

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do you have to do BMT before OTS if you are college educated

>>34230149
Bump I'd like to know too since this was my most hopeful mos to pick up

Just had a thought, would it be possible to wear knee sleeves and/or ankle tape during jump school to reduce wear and tear? With socks and pants, neither would ever be visible.

>>34230696
what are you getting in as?
and are you a tranny or woman?

>>34232992
>quota'd again

I know these feels

>>34233032
its getting plain retarded at this point
you can now change your gender on the system by submitting some light paperwork and even say you identify as a woman in the morning of a fitness assessment and do a reduced amount
im getting out anyway, lets see them defend a country with a bunch mental tranny faggots and useless women

>>34233071
It's total bullshit. Morrison needs to hang for what he did to the military

>>34232992
Infy, and i've been a guy all my life

>>34233032
what's this quota talk

>>34233119
The ADF is notorious for forced diversity training, passing people up because they aren't minority enough and being run by progressive zelots.

>>34233144
Well I'm asian, do you reckon my race card will let me get past that crap

>>34231399
BMT is for enlisted. OTS is the BMT for officer selects. You can only get in to OTS if you have a bachelor's degree.