Range ammo

>>34190228

Fuck it's over $9 at my walmart or i would be buying it. I bought 1 box to see if my new AR9 would cycle it and it chugged though it flawlessly.

>>34190316
It used to be priced likewise here, but they put it on rollback in all the Walmarts near me recently. I've been buying it up ever since. For some reason they never seem to have too much of it at once though.

>>34190228
I bought a shitload of that Tula 9mm. I think it was 7.67 though. Tula shoots fine in my gun so IDGAF>

>>34190228
Why? For 9mm, that's not a bad price for steelcase, and if it works,who gives a fuck?

Do you think that's a good price or something?
What's your cutoff $/rd for 9mm?

>>34190228
Only issue for me is that it smells like shit, had an issue with a live round popping out and getting stuck in the action but that was probably my SKS's fault.

>>34190228
I plugged through a box of 7.62x51 for $10, just to see how bad it was, and it went bang without an issue.

Though, it's literally half the price of brass, so I'm curious what the real drawbacks (and horror stories) are.

>>34190228
If you don't buy it, I will nigger.

>>34190228
used to be in the same boat tell i got a gun that was sensitive to steel case and wallyworld started selling the federal at 9$

Figured at that point i might as well just say fuck it and collect my own brass for whenever i get around to reloading

>>34190381
$0.24/rd is the most I would pay to shoot 9mm at paper.

It's really not "all range" ammo if it's steel though because some ranges don't allow steel ammo.

I bought cheap steel .308 for cheap, but I can't take it to any range I want.

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>>34190396
Good luck, bitch. I'll be that asshole at the ammo counter buying up all the good deals at 8 in the morning when they first open.

>>34190425
Be a nigger and just put it in a brass ammo box.

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>>34190385
I'm 95% sure you're just trying to get me to sniff my ammo for some reason...

>>34190228
Anyone had an issue with indoor ranges not letting you use this ammo?

>>34190552
>indoor ranges

Don't do this to yourself, you'll develop bad training scars by just standing there and shooting. A gun fight is a gun FIGHT, it's fluid and you should be moving.

Also
>Be at indoor range
>Pull out Tula box
>Range douche turns head, slowly walks over
>Stands behind me
>Waits until I fill all my mags
>"Hey there, you can't be using that"
Motherfucker

>>34190228

>Protip: you fucking can't.
"Sir we don't allow steel ammo on or range."
Range 2: "Fuck off with that steel shit."
Range 3: Fine give us 300 bucks a year and you can shoot.
Range 4: No steel fuck off.
Range 5: Four hours away, also fuck off with your steel ammo.

>>34190706
Why would a range not want steel ammo?

>>34190228
shoot shit ammo get shit results, don't forget steel case is base for your firing pin and Russian ammo is dirty

>>34190393
I've had some .308 tula ammo completely rupture in my ar10 and the case was stuck in the chamber

>>34190228
WWB, just because every once in a while, there's an extra round.

>>34190773
>firing pin
they're fucking $15-20. You save that much in one bulk purchase

>>34190737
1.) Fire hazard. Indoor ranges have tons of unburned powder all over the place, including down by the bullet traps/stops. A bullet with a bimetal/steel jacket has the potential to cause a spark and touch off a fire. A range in my town actually burned down this way.

2.) Can't reload or sell the brass. This is a much lesser reason, but it is the reason in some places.

>>34190381
$11 per 50 is the most I'd ever pay, unless I was really in a pinch. most of the time I buy 1000 round cases when there are good deals online for $9ish per 50(after shipping)

>>34190393
Don't use it in a FAL, whatever you do. because of the way it extracts it runs the risk of having a case separation and blowing the bottom of the magazine out of your guns.

>>34190706
My range sells steel ammo, maybe I'm just lucky.

>>34190737
"It could be some crazy armor piercing stuff. I know its just wolf jhp being unpacked from a box but were not allowed to take your word" is what my range says. I do it anyway but theres the odd employee who actually takes it seriously.

Basically they use the "might damage our range" excuse, meanwhile you can shoot all the steel you want as long as you buy it there and shoot it there the same day, ecks dee :^)))))))

>>34190838
Check out sgammo because I bought 1000 rds of Magtech (brassat $183, so 18c/rd.

http://www.sgammo.com/product/magtech/1000-round-case-9mm-luger-115-grain-fmj-ammo-magtech-9a

50 rd box for $9.95, so 20c/rd
http://www.sgammo.com/product/magtech/50-round-box-9mm-luger-115-grain-fmj-ammo-magtech-9a

Minimum shipping is $12 for any weight up to 12 lbs, so that 1 box shipping would be $12, more than the cost of the 1 box, so you should buy a lot.

I've shot a lot of tula out of my AKs. It'll go bang, but it's dirty as fuck and smells like cat piss.

I live about 1/2 mile from tens of 1000's of acres of BLM land.
I feel bad for you "range" guys.

>>34190737
So they don't have to separate it from the brass when they sell it to their scrap place

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I guess I've been very happy with my tulammo in a vepr 308. I've yet to try the tulammo 54r I bought, I'm I'm guessing the psl will eat it just fine. Pic related.
>>34190773
>don't forget steel case is bad for your firing pin
Good thing my vepr wasn't made by taurus so the firing pin hits the primer instead of the steel case.

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Outdoor range master race, nobody gives a shit what kind of target you're shooting, let alone what kind of ammo you're putting downrange. Someone blew up a TV with tannerite at 100yds the other day

also walmart master race, I got 2 boxes of this shit for $52 yesterday

>>34191149
I have a high school diploma and all of my teeth. The Lord giveth...

Is brown bear the gucci of cheap steel ammo?

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Buy more of that federal stuff so I can pick up the brass...

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>>34191754
>at range shooting steel
>ratty beat up van pulls up
>three bearded mid 60s-70s fudds hop out with magnets on sticks
>proceed to walk around the range for the next hour picking up everyone's brass, even while they're still shooting
>they didn't bring any guns
>they just came out to pick up brass
>leave after grabbing what looked like an entire van load of spent brass/shells

>>34190610
Well the closest range that lets me do cool shit is 3 hours away so I gotta work with what I can.

>>34191791

>magnets on sticks
>brass

you know brass isn't magnetic right?

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>>34191217
>$26 for thunder turds
Get an academy... Federal bulk for $23...

>>34191810
They used it to pick up shotgun shells and the hot steel my 1911 was throwing at them. They actually kneeled down to pick up brass

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>>34191730
No, Golden Tiger is

>>34191830
i mean are you that autistic that you couldn't say thats my brass and I will be taking it home?

>>34190737
it can magnetise the backstop and cause bullets to fly off course or cause nd's

>>34191969
I was shooting steel, why would I pick it up

>>34190228
Fucking this. They had it for exactly this price, but lately they've always been out.

And I still haven't forgiven them for discontinuing Perfecta

>>34190228
It's filthy and takes forever to clean.
It's bimetal so most indoor ranges won't let you shoot it and you can't shoot it at steel without damaging your targets.
You can't reload it.

>>34191830
>>34191982

shit why would they bother picking it up

>>34192021
It's mild steel. It's not going to do shit to a proper steel target.

>>34192029
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fq3abPnEEGE

>>34191982
Gotcha. Continue on anon

>>34192021
Are you having brain problems? Literally none of those are valid.

>>34192021
>It's filthy and takes forever to clean.
lol
>It's bimetal so most indoor ranges won't let you shoot it and you can't shoot it at steel without damaging your targets.
it will not damage steel, going to indoor ranges makes you a cuck
>You can't reload it.
who the fuck reloads 9mm anyway

>>34190773
WHAt kind of shit gun do you have that gets rekt by steel case

>>34190439
>not showing up at Walmart at 4am when the truckload arrives and buying all the steelcased before the employees can put them on the shelves.

>>34190228
It's not any cheaper than federal at my Walmart, you do you though

>>34190228
I magdumped 100 rounds of it through my Suomi.
>72 in the drum
>28 in the stick
No ammo related issues. Stick mag tends to jam frequently regardless of ammo used.

>>34192021
The target damage thing is a false meme.

>>34192182

>not robbing the truck at gunpoint before it arrives at the store

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>>34190228
Just picked some up about an hour ago. Only bought a couple though.
>>34192073
I reload 9mm defense ammo because fuck how much that shit costs.

>>34190826
That's untrue, just a boogynan from the insurance company

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>>34191875

>2017
>thinking Golden Tiger FMJ is superior to Hornady SST

psshhhh

>>34192397
With what ammo, nigger?

>>34190385

Yeah thats a common issue with the SKS. I have that happen maybe once every few hundred rounds. Cleaning the living fuck out of the rod that pushes the bolt back after firing (idk the proper name and dont care) seems to help lower the probability of it occurring, at least for me.

I will say that I have only had this issue occur with tula ammo. However, tula is basically all i shoot in any meaningful quantities so that doesnt really mean much.

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>>34192687
A Shame this stuff is $$

>>34192721
With stolen ammo, obviously.

>>34192687
Its shit and overpriced check out ak operator unions ammo tests

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I use Tulammo .30 Carbine and I've never had a problem with the ammo itself.

I literally can't. Shoot and enjoy. Clean and then shoot some more. Fuck the niggers

>>34191268
What if I told you that I took my educated, well toothed ass to the "country" 35 minutes away from Portland, OR and can shoot in state woods 20 minutes from the house that I own. Sometimes god gives and then you take advantage of that shit and make your life better.

>>34190228
*shortstrokes*

>>34191981
> Post ends in 1981
> "Lady" by Kenny Rogers was the number 3 hit per Billboard
Checks out

anybody else playing coy with ammo and gun manufacturers? im refraining from buying things i want until the prices fall further and further. heheheheheh

Does steel cased ammo wear out your firearm faster than brass?

>>34193779
Technically yes, but the difference is negligible at best. About half of the range ammo I shoot is steel and I have failed to notice any excessive wear on any of my firearms.

I just got 120 rds of molle coated .308 at $8 a box at my local walmart.
Did i do a good job?

I'm trying to balance cost of steel cased and the reloadability of brass, so I usually buy mostly steel and a few boxes of brass at the same time.

For range purposes, Wolf makes a steel-cased round with a normal FMJ lead bullet. It's a little more expensive than normal steel cased but cheaper than brass. It also should wear your barrel more slowly.

On my AR, I put on the "heavy duty" extractor spring and so far no problems.

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>>34194212
I got a few cases of the yellow box stuff in 7.62x39 before sgammo sold out.

I wish I bought more, since non bimetal ak ammo is next to impossible to find cheap unless you want to get corrosive surplus, but even that has been going up in price in recent years.

>>34194477

>since non bimetal ak ammo is next to impossible to find cheap unless you want to get corrosive surplus,

Yeah, I got 400rds of M67 for my SKS last year, but I'm really paranoid about it being corrosive and have to clean my rifle pretty obsessively afterwards.

>>34190393
7.62 is fine, won't be very good out to 100+ yards but you're not shooting an AK with steelcase for accuracy.

>>34190228
Buy the same ammo online in bulk save even more money

>>34190393


worked great in my PTR

>>34190228
How much they selling 30-30 for?

>>34192397
>not stealing the trailer off of the truck on the highway

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>>34191206
tulammo 54r is pretty good. i'm a big fan of the ppu

>>34190773
The primer on steelcase ammo is still made of brass, retard.

>>34192721
>>34192931
A successful robbery does not require any shots being fired.

>>34194726
>not getting a job at the truck stop a few miles away and emptying the trailer while the driver sleeps in the lot

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>>34190228
No. Tulammo is loaded kinda weakly, but it's fine. The money you save shooting steelcase will more than pay for a new barrel if you manage to shoot yours out, and the difference in wear and tear on your barrel between steelcase and brasscase isn't all that great anyway. It's mostly down to the cheap powder, but that's also used in cheap brass case anyway.

The only time I've bought a large order of brass case ammo was a few days ago, I ordered a few .50 cal cans of that CBC M193 5.56. It's all packed up in foam and the boxes of ammo are sealed in plastic with desiccant already in them.

And I'm never going to shoot it, it's my SHTF ammo, and since that'll never happen, it'll just sit in my closet forever.

>>34192477
Most companies make training loads with fmj that shoots like their hollow point loads for quite a bit less.

>>34195730
>not getting a job at the tula factory and pocketing every other round.

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>>34190393
>so I'm curious what the real drawbacks and horror stories are
The bullets are JUNK. Undersized, way off their marketed weight, inconsistent from one to the next.

Pic related is Wolf WPA "55gr" from before they switched from Tula to Barnaul. Significantly undersized and ~7gr too heavy.

>>34195917
Fuck, you skipped the heists at the distribution center, the dock, hijacking the cargo ship, and the ruskie truck leaving Tula

>>34190454
My range actually runs a magnet on your boxes.

>>34193664
>translation: "I'm hand-to-mouth destitute and can't/won't buy anything either way, I had to take a bird bath in the McDonald's bathroom this morning and I'm phoneposting from public wifi"

>>34195982
>Break into the factory
>Fire the rounds as they leave the machines

>>34190228
You should shoot it, after 2000 rounds youve saved enough to buy a new barrel.

I mistakenly bought a box of tula because of the price when I bought my revolver. Jesus. Every single case got stuck in the cylinder.

Never again for a revolver. Take heed, anons.

>>34195917
>not stealing the supplies to be delivered to the Tula factory and making your own ammo

This shit gave me multiple squibs in my Beretta. Buy the cheap federal stuff instead

>>34190349
As someone who works retail it's most likely because ammo comes in very rarely on the trucks. Like 1 in maybe 15 or 20 trucks will have even a single case of maybe three or four 20 rounds boxes and it's almost always something like .22 or 9mm and is rarely anything that is capable of hurting anything other than squirrels or rats.

tl;dr Chances are the reason Walmart has so little Tula at any given time is due to the way the trucks and delivery of shit to the stores work

>>34190610
>Waits until I fill all my mags
>"Hey there, you can't be using that"
Then tell him to fuck off and continue to shoot your funs because chances are they only allow brass they're hoping that you don't reload and that gives them the opportunity to sweep in and steal your brass since brass is like $1.40/pound

I buy brass cased for around 16cpr

>>34191730
I think bear is trash tier compared to golden tiger
>source:
>my groups through a scoped rifle

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>>34195741
>not familiarizing yourself with the ammo you want to trust your life with
ISHIGGY DIGGY

>>34193982
yes

>>34195998
holy shit do you live in Cali?? fucking lol'd

>>34190850
that's something that happens but that's not how or why it happens.

>>34197333
I bought an extra can to fill up some mags and practice with. The other stays sealed forever.

>>34192801
Are Fins the Swiss/Germans of Scandinavia?

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>9mm ammo choices:
>PMC
>Remington UMC
>hand loads from a 'nam vet

which should i use for home dfence? which for the range?

>>34200481
I'm not Hickok, but I buy Federal at Walmart
100 round boxes go for under $19

>>34190228

> using steel jacketed ammo that'll chew up a barrel to save a few pennies

>>34190610

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>>34200495
neat, gonna use UMC for home/hoarding and PMC and 'nam vet rounds for plinking/target shoot

>>34190228
If you're not buying thousands of rounds online you're doing it wrong.

>>34200516
>>chew up a barrel
>having a mild steel barrel
Wow you have got some balls, don't you? Or maybe you're just missing a few fingers and don't care anymore.