Shawtgunns.

deagles a better handgun than that is a shotgun

the best shotgun is a pardner pump in 12 gauge. or a mossberg88 idgaf

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>>34189911
>What is the best shotgun?
There is no "best". There are just a variety that serve different purposes better than others.

>>34189911
Benelli m4

Beretta 1301 Tactical or Mossberg 590A1

http://www.luckygunner.com/lounge/beretta-1301-tactical-peoples-shotgun-part-1/

Benelli M4 is a meme pick because people think cool Italian sounding name and $2,000 price tag means BEST

Saiga 12 is also a meme pick because it can be picky with ammo and it takes magazines.

>>34189928
lol, how did you pick the worst shotgun 2 times it's incredible

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Pump Action a best

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>>34189911
>What is the best shotgun?
For me, it's the vepr12, hands down. I think magfed has some extreme advantages and it just looks and feels great to use too.
I get lots of 23/25's with it at the trap and skeet range. But you need chokes for trap for sure.

>>34189928
Is that a KSG?
How is it? I've been looking to get one

>>34189928
Is that a KSG?
How is it? I've been looking to get one

recommend me a good shotgun for hunting and self defense too I guess. something cheap

>>34189991
modern manufacturing doesn't have any problems making a functional 12 gauge. basically anything is fine, even used

>>34189979
It's fun and better built than I would expect a lelkek to be. Slap a flashlight and a foregrip on it and you've got a nice and compact shottie with a hi-cap good for defense.

>>34189978
You're right, we do need to choke all traps

>>34190036
>good for defense
Lets be real. It's a range toy and will never be used in an actual defense situation.

>>34190229
Let the larpers larp man.

>>34189991
Mossberg 500
Remington 870

If you have an extra $100 the bird gun variety and then buy a shorter rifled barrel for it, so you can use it for HD, hunting deer, shooting skeet, duck/quail/pheasant hunting, and all you'll need to do is just switch out the barrel.

>>34190229
12+1 in a compact package sounds like it would be bretty good in an HD scenario to me.

>>34190265
>it would be bretty good in an HD scenario to me
You'd need to get into a HD situation first

>>34190261
> Jamal kicks in door
> Hey bro, there's some chicken and watermelon in the fridge, help yourself
> Change barrel
> Remove Jamal
Nah, one gun one purpose bro. You're wasting time if you actually manage to get into the habit of swapping barrels every time you get home from ducking, shooting traps or whatever that sport is where you shoot the clay things out of the air.

What's better for shooting clays shorter barrel or long

Well lads I went trap shooting for the first time ever today.

I got 3/25 my first time and by the end shot a 19/25.