Webm of London terror attack

>>34189661
/k/, what's your thoughts on the way bong cops handled this?

>>34189661
>Get out of the car
>Car keeps going into the growing crowd
British police confirmed for on the side of Allah.

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>>34189669

>>34189661
What a clusterfuck

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>>34189661
For fuck's sake, set the brake!

>>34189661
>That one guy getting stabbed could have ended all three if he was armed.

or if he had a decent straight punch

>>34189669

'ellohu crumpetbar

What was that chucklefuck earlier saying about British police being the best on the planet?

>>34191080

The british police are more incompetent than americas worst unarmed mall cop.

>>34189661
what the fuck, got a liveleak or youtube link or something a lil higher quality?

>>34189669
would have ran the stabbed guy over too. what a shit show.

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>>34191438
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>>34189669
Gotta love the internet where everyone does everything perfectly.

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>>34191517
Better than the bongs apparently.

>>34191732
pls tell me what they did wrong other than setting the break.

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>>34191853
You're right, that 8 minute response time is impeccable. And officer twinkle toes falling the fuck over like a spastic was surely performing a tactical takedown. And being in the biggest joke of a surveillance state in western history yet not watching these cultural enrichment agents was a solid start as well.

Maybe the 48 injured or 8 dead before the bongs did anything could come up with a problem, but boy howdy, not me.

Like the mayor said, it comes with living in a metropolitan area.

>>34189661
Friendship with Britain ended, Russia is my best friend now.

>>34191853
>"Despite receiving calls from concerned members of the public about Khuram Butt's increasingly radical views, police concluded that he was not a threat and the investigation was scaled back."

Whoops

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>>34191903
none of that has anything to do with the scene in webm when they gun the hadjis down. I'm not talking about the rest, and even then would hardly be their fault that intelligence can't act because that's racist.

>>34191998
Moving the goalpost isn't an argument, friend.

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>>34191998
>If you take away all context it's only HALF retarded! N-no bully!

>>34192028
>original post clearly directed to webm
>somewhat I'm the one moving goalposts
Whatever retard.

>>34191517
>Rocket blows up
>hey that rocket was sitty
>"WHAT DO YOU KNOW YOU'RE NOT A ROCKET SCIENCE I'D LIKE TO SEE YOU DO BETTER"

nice job you fucking retard.

>>34192077
>What they (the police) did wrong

Because the 8 minutes of achmed fun times before police show isn't the police's fault, neither is refusing to investigate a radical who you are getting reports of becoming more unhinged by the day, nope, not the police's fault. No one's fault but that damn goalpost! Move it further!

The fact that they tried to mow down civilians with their vehicle for the glory of Allah is just a cherry on top.

But you believe whatever makes you feel safe, bong-buddy.

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>Dell Computer

>>34192102
>has no idea about the topic
>still procedes to make uninformed statements
The only retard here is you.

>>34192119
>bong-buddy
ahahahaha. I live in a kebab and terror free, faggot.

>>34192154
>Dell Computer
>monitor
>computer
People are fucking stupid in this board I swear.

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>>34192181

>>34192181
>Has no response but faggot and retard.

Summer days, friends, summer days.

>>34192208
>animeshit
ewww

>>34192219
it's the only thing that you can probably understand, otherwise you would have point out what they did wrong in op's already.

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>>34192250
Careful, you'll upset >>34192257 's delicate anus.

>>34192257
>See a guy doing something incorrectly
>hey that guy's doing something incorrectly
>"WELL WHAT ARE YOU SOME KIND OF EXPERT? YOU PROBABLY CAN'T EVEN DO THAT SOMETHING CORRECTLY"

anon you need to stop

>>34192285
>>34192274
not an argument

>>34192290
>anon you need to stop
I'm a free man of the land, make me.

>>34189661
>That one guy getting stabbed could have ended all three if he was armed.

bullshit he would have been swarmed way before he could draw

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>>34192343
>Th-they won't stop bullying me!

The argument was made, your retort was "retard" or "faggot" or something, you lost, now everyone's just laughing at you. No argument to be made.

>>34192343
>Tell me what they did wrong
>Everyone proceeds to tell 14 year old what they did wrong.
>I hate you, you're not my real dad, k.

Is it nice having this break from school so you can spend your free time making strangers laugh?

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>>34192396
>bullying
That's not even a real thing, lol.
>more animeshit
yup seems about right, fatty.

>>34192437
Glad you're ceding the conversation sport.

So we're all good with the video and accepting that brit-bong cops are laughable? Good, onto the next thread.

>>34192429
>can't point a single thing cops did wrong in webm other than forgetting to set the break in the middle of the rush
>pointing what they did wrong at all
One it's not like the other. The rest you have said doesn't even make sense.

>>34192461
>My entire argument relies on excluding every part of the situation that doesn't fit my argument.

>>34192454
>So we're all good with the video and accepting that brit-bong cops are laughable?
You still can't point what they did wrong. Also I haven't conceded anything, average bongistani cops don't carry weapons due to politics and public opinion, it isn't up them to decide that. And blaming the street cop for what happened is delusional and wrong. They have a mayor that is imbecile, a prime minister that has no idea what is doing, intelligence that decide not to act and somewhat people like you thing that street cops can magically stop this from happening.

>>34192526
>You can't point out what they did wrong, except all the times you pointed out what they did wrong, but you're not allowed to because I said it doesn't count!

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>>34192371
>bullshit he would have been swarmed way before he could draw
Zero training and only a little practice, it took less than a second for me to draw and put a shot on a 3" target from a concealed IWB holster at 15 feet.
Don't think everyone's the same. I don't think I can play soccer like C. Ronaldo, but I can damn well shoot better. Plus I enjoy it without being a bloodthirsty idiot. Only paper and laser targets so far due to lack of valid life threats. I don't go looking for threats and never will. That's not the same thing as millions of men being disarmed and unprepared englishfags though. Seriously, get your guns back in capable hands.

>>34192670
Unarmed for 8 minutes while Allah reaps his praise unchecked by anyone as no civilian in that time was armed to stop it while the police finished their tea.

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>>34192670
>soccer

>>34189661
>That one guy getting stabbed could have ended all three if he was armed.

And if he were able to have picked up a gun, then so could they have picked up guns. and so instead of 7 dead, there would've been 70. including that guy.

>>34192743
The police gave it their best shot to increase the death toll. Too bad like all bong cops, they fuck up even the simplest things.

>>34192743
>And if he were able to have picked up a gun, then so could they have picked up guns

But it would have been 70+ vs. 3 at that point dumbass. Maybe you should build a wall and not the tuskain raiders outnumber you.

>>34189661
wtf are you talking about, the guy was getting stabbed as he turned around. If he was armed he would've had to turn around 2-3 seconds before he did.

>>34192793
>Can't even speak proper english
>wants his opinion to be taken seriously

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fucking fat wizards talking shit as usual. Go plink paper with your dad's .22 and fuck off from adult conversations. He left the car in drive b/c he was expecting to arrive on scene and quickly get out and find the sand niggers. They rolled up and saw someone getting stabbed on the ground and reacted as fast as possible. I'm sure you reaction time and adrenaline is more under control while you neets play COD and plink paper with your shit tier weapons while larping operator.

How did the police arrive so quickly? Impressed desu

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>>34189665

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLvlGVNInw4

>>34192670
> but I can damn well shoot better.
>it took less than a second for me to draw and put a shot on a 3" target from a concealed IWB holster at 15 feet.

fucking faggots don't realize the difference between shooting paper and being in a real life or death situation. Or even worse, having other people relying on you to save them.

Your faggot ass probably gets nervous in class presentations yet you think you would act as proficient as a Navy Seal operator when shit goes down.

>>34192894
8 minutes after the van culturally enriched a bridge.

>>34192878
Someone's upset that bongs are so incompetent.

>>34192918
>Life with fetal alcohol syndrome is tough faggot desu

>>34192918
not to mention those all going how everyone there should've been armed, clearly all going to be perfect shots, after 4 pints of beer and a curry, on a night out...

>>34192743
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>>34192918
Someone's tears of rage are threatening to ruin their keyboard.

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>>34192946
they got out of the car as fast as possible and started engaging. Its night time and they had what intel was given to them on the radio. What else do you want. Go watch some more jon wick you summer child.

>hur dur, i'm 16 and its funny trollin, im not retard pls

don't even pretend that your not some stupid kid who just learned to shoot 5 months ago and thinks hes operator.

>>34192961
Nah, he's right tho. If you haven't shot at moving targets while worrying about the background and your own life and the lifes of people who are depending on you and your entire career after everything gets second guessed and you think the paper you put a hole into is good and puts you above the people who prevailed under those circumstances then good for you though I guess...

>>34192987
Gonna get upset again when everyone points out the numerous things bong cops did wrong again, then say "that doesn't count" again?

Also, stop samefagging, makes you look desperate.

>>34192987
>My only retort is faggot retard and faggoty retard
>No, you're the kid.

18+, friend

>>34193062
how pathetic is it that you rely on negative attention to make it to the next day without offing yourself?

The only mistake they made was not putting the car in park and that only is one guys fault. They rolled up watching some guy getting stabbed by multiple people. Who cares, no one died from the car going 2 mph. What's it like having autism?

>>34191517
Last I remembered, the internet doesn't physically pop out of my screen and attempt to stab me while yelling "this is for Syria, God is great".

>>34193094
>Only mistake they made

48 people would disagree. The 8 dead would as well, but can't. You know. Cause they're dead.

>>34193094
Exactly what I was saying before but now they are accusing you of samefagging when you clearly aren't me.

>>34193123
Mostly everyone just knows you're a goalpost moving bongistan apologist who can't stop crying over the police being rightfully shat on.

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>>34193108
I was referring to the cops in the video. And cops can't spawn next to the enemy like this is COD. Summer child go back to /pol/, you will find other aspies angry at society just like you. Its like heaven bro. You can blame all your problems on the eurocucks and muslims and niggers and shit and you being some autistic ogre looking child who was ignored as a kid can be brushed away. Its the jews fault bro. Thats why you will be a wizard. lol praise kek namean?

>>34193149
Right, so letting people run amuck with a van and knives, unchecked, even after you were told 'these fuckerson are extremists, and they're getting ready to attack' but you decided to do nothing, repeatedly, is super cool aces with you?

You know, you throw the same insults around a lot, but don't make any valid points. Try harder.

Welcome to London, we can't and won't stop an attack till it's too late. Enjoy your stay.

>>34193137
I'm not samefagging you lunatic goatfucker, that guy who posted the dog isn't me.
And you still didn't post what they did wrong, but with all your interest in blaming the coppers almost feels like you're a bong politician trying to clean your face when you fucked up much more than any cop.

>>34193225
See every post above that describes exactly what they did wrong, rather than going "that doesn't count!" And moving the goalpost. Should satisfy your curiousity samefag.

you fucken muslim

>>34193225
>>34191517
>Gotta love the internet where everyone does everything perfectly.
>not leaving your car in gear while you hop out, after arriving at the scene much later than you should have, so that it can wander around and almost roll over a stabbed person and innocent bystanders is now considered "perfect"

stop

>>34193239
No it doesn't, none of it applies to webm. What happened until then is irrelevant.

>>34193274
He won't, he's been sobbing in rage for too long to stop now.

>>34193298
That's the dumbest argument ever
>What did the police do wrong
>You're not allowed to say THE MASSIVE FUCK UPS, because I make up rules like a child.
Good to know the attackers won't face charges for the bridge incident because "its nawt on da webum!"

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>>34193225
this, i'm not him

This is /k not /pol. Making this thread about how England's intelligence agency and gov't is allowing Islamic terrorism in the country is not /k related. We are here to discuss the tactical situation of the video.

Also, they acted very professionaly and quickly as well. If you are American, which I think you're not, probably some faggot larping or if so, a 16 summer troll, you should be ashamed b/c our cops have acted worse than this on MANY occasions. The fact you don't realize this is proof you're some dumb autistic looking child who is lashing out at the world for the reason you will remain a perma virgin. Hate to break it to you, but you're a fucking retarded loser, and no matter how hard you follow some bs beliefs on /pol, this won't get you laid. Its a sad end to a pathetic story called your life, that has a couple decades to end. How pathetic. Enjoy the slow craw till death being an angry cunt blaming everyone else but yourself to why your a fucking loser.

>>34193274
First of all you don't now if it's an automatic or manual transmission so fuck off right there and second him not pushing the break is an error but shit happens in the middle of the rush. Also that error is irrelevant for the final outcome, they gunned down the kebabs and the car didn't hit anyone or cause any harm.

>>34193335
>Making this thread about how England's intelligence agency and gov't is allowing Islamic terrorism in the country is not /k related.
Oh, just fuck off yes it is

>>34193335
>If I talk like how I see it on r/4chan, no one will notice.

Discussing the incompetence of an armed force isn't k? News to me.
Guys, no more shitting on historical military blunders!

>>34193326
It doesn't matter, people where criticizing the "clusterfuck" when the only thing in op's was a few seconds webm, that's why bringing up what happened before is irrelevant because that's not what was being discussed.

>>34193393
Yes, it was, if you don't like it then start your own thread, the London police are useless.

let me try to analyze or hypothesize this delicious butthurt
>anon is underage tard on summer break
>anon discovers 4chan looking up rage comic memes
>anon, who knows absolutely nothing about the London terror attack, got his first and only exposure from the webm in this thread
>because anon knows nothing outside of the webm and nothing in general, anon makes uneducated comments about the whole event
>anon btfo
>"f-fuck you t-that wasn't on the webm"
>"m-muh webm"
tl;dr anon loves webm very much he sees nothing else

>>34193099
No, but it would make the repetitive threads that always get shit up by trolls and children more interesting.

>>34193422
Careful, your argument isn't in the webm, so it doesn't exist. In fact, none of us are, so technically-

>>34193442
Fuck you I exist. I think.

>>34193404
I couldn't give two fucks about London's police or fucking Britain for what matter but again that's irrelevant. Go see every post above mine with Pepe and it's the webm that's being addressed, not the arriving time, prior intelligence or whatever. When in fact what we see is cops arriving and a few seconds later all hadjis lie dead and no cop got hurt.

>but was confusing and everyone was running around
They were 3 fucking kebabs running in different directions, police reaction to that precise moment was good period.

Everything else being discussed it's just politics.

>>34193497
No, fuck you, all that matters is the holy webm, so sayeth its profit, some fucking idiot.

>>34193505
>Ineffectiveness of an armed force in preparing for anattack is just politics.
Alright everyone, you heard the walking advertisement for paint shakers with baby adapters who makes up rules, no longer allowed to talk about France thinking trees would stop the blitz!

>>34189734
Are you going to trade a perfectly thrown punch for a slit throat? Because I can guarantee you'd have to.

>>34193422
That's lots of assumptions and it's funny because none of them are true.

Every single situation around the globe that involves police and terror threats will always end with /k/ claiming that police fucked and they somewhat would do better despite not being there.

See for example that guy in Dallas who gunned a handful of cops and the discussion was the same.

>>34193557
>Chef presents a sandwich full of shit
>This is a shitty sandwich
>FUCK YOU, YOU'RE NOT A CHEF! THE SANDWICH GOT MADE DIDN'T IT?!
And we're back to this argument.

>>34191903
>8 minute response time

Should I remind you of the Orlando (you) club?

the fact you don't realize how fucking expendable you are in the eyes of U.S law enforcement you need to look it up your goddamn self, faggot.

>>34193341
Just because your fuck ups luckily didn't have any adverse effects on the situation doesn't mean that they suddenly aren't considered fuck ups.

>>34193514
That means the /k/ube does not exist as well. I will not worship a false god.

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>>34193576
Not in the webm, doesn't matter

>>34193545
Of course it has to do with politics. Who were the ones slashing the police budget? Who are the ones that decide not go harsh on immigrants due to politic gains? Who sets the idea that unarmed police in Britain should the norm?

London is a big place with tons of people, there is no change they can address every single place in a matter of seconds.
All the command has nothing to do with streets bobbies.

>dude that's shit
>NO IT ISN'T
>YOU COUNTRY HAS IT TOO SHIT IS STANDARD
>BE GRATEFUL SHIT ISN'T MORE SHITTY
>nobody said that
>that's still shit I am seeing
>REEEEEEEEEE

>>34193609
>Politics means it has nothing to do with discussions of armed forces, so no more britbong bully.
Damn, the middle east general thread is going to take this hard.

>>34193642
You can't disassociate the outcome from its management. Ultimately you get what you paid for, having a couple CT units outfitted with cool stuff can't stop shit from happen when there's over 20k potential threats that somewhat no one seem interested in pursue.

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>>34193763
Including the police after repeated warnings, hence, the ridicule.

>>34193775
That has nothing to do with what we saw in the webm hence why it's irrelevant to judge their actions on it

>>34193829
Nope, it's completely relevant, like it or not. Incompetence that directly impacted the situation. You don't get to tell people what they do and don't get to discuss, so kindly fuck off if you can't accept that, or ignore it. You not liking that people are criticizing the actions of the London police is not a reason for others to stop.
You tried saying it doesn't count, that was wrong.
You tried saying it's not k related, that was wrong.
I and others will absolutely critique them for the numerous fuckups leading to the deaths and injuries. So you can do what you like but making up rules or complaining won't stop it. This is me engaging you rationally, take it as it is, or the conversation can devolve back into what it was.

>>34191903
>8 minute response time is impeccable.
Not just an 8 minute response time, an 8 minute response time in the equivalent of Times Square.

>>34193890
>Criticize a specific action
>By analysing what happened many time before
Ok, so I can say that you're a fucking moron in regards of this thread by judging what you have said in, let's say for the sake of the argument, the gear queer thread. K then.

>/k/ is too dumb to asses the individual's(!) performance in a short video clip
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt ans pretend that it's electionfags.

>>34189661
I think its funny how the Brits are running away from their shitty country to live in the USA just like the Mexicans instead of fixing their shit-holes of countries.

>>34192836
It's called situational awareness dumbass.

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>the only thing saving us from our orwellian surveillance state is the massive incompetence of our police force

>>34194666

>I think its funny how the Brits are running away from their shitty country to live in the USA just like the Mexicans instead of fixing their shit-holes of countries.


Anon, we can't fight back. That's racist, anything which suggests that we are unhappy with the goat herders or any ethnic minority at all is racist.

As far as fixing the country, the politics works differently here. First off we are not a democracy, we are a socialist country. Look at the election we *have* to vote in. We can either pick a communist man who wants to sack off the army, the nukes and maintain the culture of welfare. Whilst screwing the working man, or anyone with money.

Then we have the lady, who is terminally opposed to personal freedom, the internet and the working man. She also hates some foreigners and is trying to do away with the human rights accord.

We have MP's to complain to but remember, we don't really have a say like in the USA, we are given a choice and *must* chose.

Would you run away too?

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>just a few years back the London Olympics was a high point for the UK
>the current state of the UK now

how the fuck did this happen? how long will it continue?

>>34194666
>I think its funny how the Brits are running away from their shitty country to live in the USA just like the Mexicans instead of fixing their shit-holes of countries.

It's worse for the Brits, think about it Mexico is a shithole with corrupt politicians, nasty cartels, where only the rich get justice. You can't live in Mexico by just working an honest job.

England is a functioning nation with rule of law with no major problems with their native population. They are willfully inviting these people, they are not only housing them and feeding them for free, they excuse their acts of terrorism and continue to virtue-signal the world on how tolerant they are. They are fucking their country up on purpose.

>>34194733
>how the fuck did this happen?
Years of Tory rule.
>how long will it continue?
Let's find out!

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>>34194694
>orwellian surveillance state

Funny way of saying "The western world", friend.
Incredibly delusional if you think that GCHQ is doing anything the NSA isn't doing.

>>34189661
No
No
No

Because he was blindsided. The cops never shot even though they had guns.
It was staged. Your government hates you.

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>>34189661
I'm actually impressed.

It would've taken 20-30 minutes for the police to arrive at the scene in my state and city. And would've fucked it up somehow by shooting unarmed civilians and getting stabbed themselves.

Dallas is such a fucking shithole.

>>34194749
And the US isn't?

We've let in millions of millions of spics and niggers to the point where we're nearly no longer a white majority nation anymore. We have college campuses screaming for the death of our nation and government, and chimps of niggers rioting whenever one of their monkey kind gets shot for being a dumbass.

It's to the point where we have cities like Detroit and the bronx, which are africa tier, and the media doesn't give a fuck what happens there. They'll never report on it, because if they do, they'll be branded a racist and "far-right" propaganda.

>>34193552
You know you can dodge a knife as easy as you can dodge a fist? Since knives are usually held by said fists

>>34195018
>don't remind me that anime is shit!

>>34191517
Most of the people being stabbed were drunk. If anything that would have increased their ability to operate a firearm. Never mind the fact the bad guys all had suicide vests on which I'm sure a crowd of drunk people would stop and analyze If they were real or not in an instant

>>34195018
>weegee and Steve jobs are anime now

>>34195626
Are you retarded?

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>>34189669

>>34191517
ahahahah look at him he is pickle rick

>>34195642
You seem to be for letting the post go right over your head

Bit late but the police response time was actually 6 minutes, the terrorists being dead by 8.

I think that's pretty good. The truck seems pretty unimportant. It's not even rolling at the stabbed man and the police had to act quickly anyway.

But oh well, all these armchair SWAT captains could do a better job.

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What's been going on with the Western powers lately, I'm a gookshit and this shit rarely happens to us but it makes me fucking mad that People and authorities are conforming to this kind of terror.

Crusade when

>>34195926
There are bigger game at play thats why this is tolerated.
Eastern Europe holds no such things at hand and will respond very aggressively if such thing ever happened here.

>>34195658
No mate. The post was shit. And you are shit.

>>34195802
I don't think I want to be holed up in a bar throwing chairs at a machete wielding jihadi for 6 minutes thanks though bootlick.

I'll shoot back.

>>34195926
Because being diverse is more important than being alive.

>>34189661
This is what happens when you make it illegal to defend yourself

>>34195525
>Dallas

Yeah I don't think terrorist are ready to try these attacks out on a state that jokes around about every citizen having a gun

>>34195926
Not /pol/ but, usually in Democratic countries popular opinion dictates the government, like back in the Space Race where public opinion was to beat the commies out in fucking space which led to NASA getting shitloads of cash and getting Armstrong to the moon, now popular opinion is to tolerate, otherwise they'll lose their power if they don't listen.

The idea that "they could've been shot!" assumes some stupid situation where allowing guns wouldn't give them the right to carry them, start shooting and scare off anyone who carries a pistol who is also assumed to be an operator who can react in these situations


Basically a dumb and stupid made up scenario with only a slight chance of doing something

>>34195525
You sound like a 12yo antifag.

Also
>Dallas Muhammed cartoon contest

Learn about it retard. They already tried.

>>34195984
>Things that have never actually happened.

Look up any public shooting spree in the us. Almost every single one ends as soon as they are confronted with an armed opponent, either by suicide, surrender or gunned down.

This entire theory is baseless and reads like a Reddit post.

>>34192119
>the 8 minutes of achmed fun times
>8 minute response time when everything's under surveillance, Johnny Jihadi had already been reported NUMEROUS times, they knew shit was going to go down, in a heavily urban area, in an area that SHOULD have already had a police presence, in a country with a police density high enough to park one on literally every street corner 24/7
Explain how the fuck an 8 minute response time is not a MASSIVE fuckup on the police's side?

>>34195610

Haha. You do realize that knife increases range of such fists, right?

>>34189661
lol, whites are such pussies!!

>>34195976
Exactly, just like that blm guy didn't, amrite?

>>34196009
Well no shit the confrontation is going to eventually end when an individual is up against an opponent, you moron.

And no, most of the latest shootings that have happened in the US have been stopped by the individual offing himself because he did what he wanted to do, or by getting into a firefight with the police and getting shot.

>>34196081
Because the roads of London aren't square, straight blocks like say New York. Open up a map on anywhere in London, and you can see how fucked up the roads are.

And, no. It wasn't an 8 minute response time, it was 5-6 after the first strike. The terrorists were stopped in 8 minutes. That's a lot better than the 30-40 minutes it takes in the US.

>>34189661
>HURR DURRR if guns were allowed, the stabbers could have been stopped

if guns were allowed, the stabbers would have killed three times as many people because they'd be shooters instead, you dumb cockholster

>>34196229
>He'd rather have his own defense in the hands of these police rather than in his control.

That's why the US is different than the UK you fucking retard.

>terrorist attacks
>We cant defend ourselves because then they'll be able to attack us better!
>we'll just sit and cower on the floor while we wait 8mins for the police to arrive

The fact that there are people that want to limit firearm ownership in the UK while at the same time the bombings, truck attacks, and stabbings becoming more common it fucking hilarious. Are you going to ban trucks, bombs and knives?

I personally hate it when people call others "Sheep" but fuck man, that description is pretty accurate.

>>34196373
and where did I ever say any of those things you mouthbreathing moron?
I'm just pointing the obvious lack of reasoning behind the OP
I couldn't give less of a fuck about US or UK gun laws, I have my guns and I'm cool with that
fuck you for making me reply in this no guns related obvious political bait thread

>>34196190
First. Opponent.

Often an armed citizen

Sorry the facts don't support your retarded Reddit theory.

>>34196229
You are retarded. Like. Handicapped.

>Better not get a gun that's illegal, wouldn't want to go to jail
>Drive a van over people then start stabbing them.

The only people stopped by laws are law abiding people.

>>34196490
Those are logical progressions of your post, dickbreath.

>>34196373
Fucking this. You can't ban everything that could possibly be weaponized.

How about instead of treating the headaches you cut out the fucking brain cancer?

It's no wonder they are successful in these attacks with pathetic faggots like >>34196229 running around.

>>34196199
Show me one capital city in the us where police response times to a mass shooting is 30 minutes.

>>34196577
Should've pointed out I wasn't talking about the response times, rather how long it takes to deal with the suspect in general.

Took the police 1:30hr to sort out the Orlando club shooting.

>>34196587
That's how hostage situations work? Not dumbshit Mudslimes running by you in the street with lawn tools. Little easier situation to resolve

Also bong cops still managed to shoot bystanders.

(Also 1:30 is ridiculous, but I don't think the situations are a fair comparison. If pulse man had been wandering the roads the first cop onscene could have solved that one)

>>34196527
>sprouting leddit every post
Projecting, much?

Rarely has a mass shootingzstabbing been stopped by an armed civilian, excluding police officers. See the 2015 Chattanooga shootings. The corpse of a few marines had glocks on them. Didn't stop the shooter though, did it?

>inb4 "should've thrown the glocknade"

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>>34189669
bobbies confirmed keystone cops tier kek

>>34196597
Here you go tough guy. You think it's rare because no one bothers to report it, doesn't fit the moronic narrative you are in here echoing.

http://crimeresearch.org/2016/09/uber-driver-in-chicago-stops-mass-public-shooting/

>>34196595
Fair enough regarding a hostage situation, but take into account the 2016 Dallas shooting then. Started at 9pm and ended at 2:30am the next day. There's still webms of the event on 4chan archives of the cops screwing up and getting themselves killed due to their incompetence.

Yeah, bong cops managed to shoot a bystander, who's an American funnily enough, but that's due to the huge crowd running out behind the terrorists. A single stray bullet is going to catch somebody.

>>34196373
Just like how a majority of civilians cower and hide from a mass shooter in the US, right?

Retard.

>>34196620
They got outplayed by someone better than them. Unless you want to disband the military too... Gonna have folks ready to outgun the popo.

I don't think your points are unfair. But I know I'd much rather be in that situation in the us where I have the right to fight back if I choose to do so. With something other than dishware.

>>34196630
See >>34196605 you stupid twat. You are confusing the US with Paris. And the uk.

>>34196605
>>34196642
>one incident is now every mass shooting

Nice. Very informative.

>>34196655
>one

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Feel sorry for the two officers who were first on scene (one on duty, one off) who got themselves stabbed up with life changing injuries.

Arm all cops now desu

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>>34193149

>>34193938
equivalent of times square ? nigga i live a street over from where this happened and its nowhere near the equivalent of times square

>>34196655
>I can't read.

Thanks for proving my point you dumb fuck

If he had been armed, then he would have been shot, because odds are that if he could get a gun, so could the terrorists. And a quick look at US mass shootings tells us that having plenty of guns around is absolute and utter shit at keeping people from killing a bunch of other people.

>>34196938
Jesus Christ no one wants to read anything. They just want to live on feefees.

For the third time. >>34196605

>>34193341
>things that don't happen, even in car crashes
Just stop talking, you bloody idiot.

>>34191903
PART AND PARCEL

>>34193576
In the U.S. we're allowed to be responsible for our own safety. In Britain where you are not allowed to protect yourself because the government will, they had better show up faster than that.

>>34189661
>Gun laws so strict that terrorists have to half-arsedly resort to running people over and knives
>Laxer gun laws would have made it better
Ok

>>34197025
>Sure am glad I was killed by a van/truck/knife and not a gun!

>>34197025
Pretty sure it was stopped by ebil guns

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>>34197025
>>Laxer gun laws would have made it better
having an option to defend yourself is 1000x better than being disarmed and helpless, cuck

>>34197025
why dont they just ban murder?

>>34193001
Nothing is perfect, but he's still better off than someone who hasn't practiced and carries no weapon at all.

>>34193574
>>34193557
Except you know, it's not an argument. That's an appeal to authority fallacy...

>>34196938
>If he had been armed, then he would have been shot, because odds are that if he could get a gun, so could the terrorists. And a quick look at US mass shootings tells us that having plenty of guns around is absolute and utter shit at keeping people from killing a bunch of other people.

>yfw all the murders with firearms and mass shootings in the US really happen in ghettos between lower class minorities instead of the overplayed media attention to the more successful ones that are statistical anomalies.

>yfw all the 'terrorists' are actually just an incursion by the foreign invaders that were welcomed into the country with open arms.

It's a sad time when the truth is denied for being perceived as hurtful.

>>34191517
>>34191853
>>34191998
>>34193576
>assblasted bong(s) getting btfo
kek, make a cup of tea then head to your local mosque, m8. also kys fags.

REMMINDER
>The gunman in Monday's fatal shooting spree at an Orlando, Florida, business targeted his victims and had a "negative relationship" with at least one of them, according to law enforcement.

>Army veteran John Robert Neumann, Jr. killed five employees of Fiamma Inc. before killing himself, Orange County Sheriff Jerry Demings said.
This was this week, no one gives a shit because large amounts of people dying in the us it's just that people dying.

>>34189661
>visit the UK
>get stabbed

>>34193497
I think therefore I am.

>>34197305
What the fuck does this say?

Also if you'd bother to read the stories of businesses stopping attacks like that because people legally carry... You'd understand that guns stop those from happening.

They aren't reported as mass shooting because someone ventilates the fucker before it becomes one.

>>34197387
>What the fuck does this say?
This says that a single guy gunned 5 people in a pro gun state and no one was hable to stop him. It also says that people calling shit on britain should look on their own doorstep first.

>a single guy that got mad killed almost as much as much as three motivated hadjis in a densely populated area
and this is just a common occurrence, instead in britain having 8 people killed is world news for weeks because it rarely happens.

>>34197537
>Rare
>3 attacks in 3 months
>I don't understand population scaling
>Random killing of total strangers vs disgruntled employee

Alrighty achmed. Isn't it time to squat on your rug? Or go culturally enrich some of your fellow bongistanis?

>>34189661
They all jump out the car to leave it rolling forward unmanned.

Notice how close it is to the fellow lyinng on the ground who got stabbed at the start, that could've been a fucking disaster.

>>34197601
>>3 attacks in 3 months
Now point out all the terror attacks on UK soil prior to the first attack.

And then point out all the mass shootings, in the US, during the same time.

Isn't it time for you to riot, Jamel? I heard another one of your nigger friends got shot for doing nothing. Time to destroy countless businesses and homes!

>>34197656
>Doing nothing

Ha. Please do show me some of those stats. Just watch out for that van of peace coming your way. Ring the bobbies, they will come save you in 10 minutes or so.

>>34197671
>americuck fails to understand sarcasm

more already known news at 10

>The car ran the stabbed dude's head over

Way to go britcops.

>>34197601
>>Random killing of total strangers vs disgruntled employee
ahahahahaha, like san bernardino or orlando amrite ?


As for the rest as I have said before I'm not a bong and I live in a terror free country so.

>http://visionofhumanity.org/indexes/global-peace-index/
feelsgoodman.jpeg

>>34197681
>I was being sarcastic; too funny for your dense American brain amiriteguis?

I got it. It wasn't funny. And plenty of morons (presumably you included) believe the "dindu nuffin" line. And you ignored the argument.

It's okay. You bongs will be begging for our help again soon. At least your friends got your stupid ass out of the EU, slowed the tide a little. Maybe France and Germany will suffer it first and give you a chance to uncuck your pitiful country.

Rue Brittania

>>34197694
>Proving you have no idea what you're talking about.

2ez

>>34197656
>some fags in Florida DIDNT defend themselves
>everyone in Brtiain CANT defend themselves

Not my fault those retards weren't carrying at the time

>>34197694
>I live in a hugely white nation
Ftfy

>>34197703
>I got it.
Did you really? because you sounded pretty serious when you said "Ha. Please do show me some of those stats." Dumbass. Nice back peddling there, champ.

>pot calling the kettle black

>>34197749
>Now point out all the terror attacks on UK soil prior to the first attack.

>And then point out all the mass shootings, in the US, during the same time.

>Haha I was only joking stupid americlap

Fuck me, yurop deserves to be enriched.

>>34197757
>actually knows the quote I'm talking about
>responded to it
>now changing the point of argument to make himself look better

holy fuck that's pathetic. Just stop, dude.

>>34195610
They were carrying 12 inch blades you nonce

HURR DURR IM AM AMERICAN BJJ ENTHUSIAST I KNOW EVERYTHING

>>34197714
but then are you proving my point all along >>34193574

>>34197778
Can anyone explain to me what this guy is talking about? Or is the kebab cum so far inside his ass that it's giving him a stroke?

Because I seriously don't get it.

>all this shit talking between amerilards and yuropoors
>all this hatred between the same group of people
this is why shitskins are winning in both sides of the pound. SAD.

>>34197821
I wanted to help the yurops. But I am starting to think they deserve it. At least some of them.

Some of these assholes are actually DEFENDING the kebab terrorists.

>Haha at least aren't American
>Vanned

>>34197821
Apparently it's impossible to criticize British police's performance without some autists taking personal offense

>>34197838
>At least we aren't*

>>34197805
>being this literal asshurt that you've been called out

lol

>>34197821
Europoors are permacucked and not worth defending since they don't defend themselves. They deserve every bit of Mudslime steel they are fed. We are not the same group of people. EUrotards worship surrender and appeasement so they get what they deserve. In the US, chimps only chimp in liberal areas which deserve it. Fine with me, I don't live in one and every (a)merican who isn't a White Nationalist needs to die anyway.

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>>34197821
This is the current state of the Western world.

>>34196373
To be fair, bombs are banned

>>34197821
>americans and europeans
>same group of people

One group is White, Europe. Another group has been multi-cultured and fell for the diversity meme, America, who is now 56% white.

The US is not the same group as any actual White nation.

>>34197821
Not my fault Bongs love taking the piss on the yanks but are unable to take the piss themselves.

Can anyway recognise what guns they used

g36? sig sauer m516??

>>34197821
>these bongs didn't drive so good
>PERHAPS THEY ARE WONDERING WHY SOMEONE WOULD SHOOT A MAN WHEN GUNS ARE EVIL
>at least you can talk, who are you
>IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO WE ARE WHAT MATTERS IS THE DIVERSITY NOONE CARED WHO WE WERE TIL WE LET IN THE TERRORISTS
>if we shoot the terrorIst would they die?
>IT WOULD BE EXTEREMELY PAINFUL
>you are a cucked guy
>FOR EURO

>>34189661
If guns we easy to obtain in the UK they would have been shooting people not stabbing.

Less people die or are victims of violent crime in the UK compared to the US.

fewer people have died in the UK as a result of terrorism.

>>34193194
Welcome to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_the_United_States#2010.E2.80.93present

I agree that we need carry in the UK but don't call the kettle black you fucking pot.

I'm a huge advocate of carry in the UK but that wouldn't have helped stop this attack at all, even in the US you can't carry in bars and those out that night were out drinking.

If the unarmed cops were armed it would have ended much quicker though.

>>34197991
shhh... americans are triggered by facts and will proceed to REEEEEE all over the place until you concede to them

>>34197991
There is a higher violent crime rate in the UK than the US

>>34198134
That isn't true at all.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/United-Kingdom/United-States/Crime

Literally every aspect between the US\UK, the US is worse.

>>34198134
Murder https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

And some debunking for your bull
http://blog.skepticallibertarian.com/2013/01/12/fact-checking-ben-swann-is-the-uk-really-5-times-more-violent-than-the-us/

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>>34198182
>>34198192
First
>using "murders" as a comparative rate of measurement

Please look up the definitions of murder for these 2 countries

Secondly

Overall, it's literally higher than the US

>>34198222
>total crimes
Wew in a country where you can get in shit for fb posts I wonder why
Literally proves nothing you stupid fuck.
If you really think the UK is a more dangerous place you're fucking dense.

>>34198222
>tells others to look up the definitions of something
>fails to realise the irony of his post

You understand that "crimes" in the UK are completely different to the "Crimes" in the US, right?

By your argument, the most dangerous fucking country on the planet is Iceland, surpassing Somalia and every other third world country.

Neck yourself, my dude. Nice way of cherry picking the L I T E R A L one thing that the UK is worse that he US at.

>>34192862
excellent counter argument my friend

>>34198273
>>34198274
http://rboatright.blogspot.com/2013/03/comparing-england-or-uk-murder-rates.html

>you really think the UK is a more dangerous place you're fucking dense.
Where did I say that?

>You understand that "crimes" in the UK are completely different to the "Crimes" in the US, right?
I was hoping this would cause your cognitive dissonance to end

>>34198323
>comparing statistics to a blog
>thinking it's valid

lol

>>34198192
>debunking your bull
>>776 violent crimes per 100,000 people. While this is still substantially higher than the rate in the United States

>>34198372
Please point out any inaccuracies then

>>34189661
Other than letting the car roll - fairly understandable when trying to kill terrorists and save a man's life - it was excellent performance. Americans can stick to shooting unarmed black children.

>>34198376

you're comparing Apples to Aardvarks.

"violent crime" in the US, and the UK are two completely different criteria.

in the US, it is roughly Assault, Rape, and Murder. with a few sub-categories.
in the UK?
I spit on someone. That's listed under "violent crime". So is calling someone a cunt.
I push a guy in the street. Not punch, not beat e'm up. I just push him. I'm arrested, that's listed as Violent Crime.
I'm 12 years old, and I have an airsoft toy gun. I get stopped by the police, and cautioned not to wave it around.
That's recorded as a violent crime, because its a firearms offence, because imitiation firearms are listed under the same section.
I'm married and I hit my wife. that's violent crime.
I'm not a wife-beater, but as a controlling fuckup, I dont allow her access to credit cards. That is also listed as a violent crime, because its under the same "domestic abuse" section.

the US has about three paragraphs of laws of what constitutes violent crime.

the UK has about 3-4 pages just for the list of them all. Literally hundreds of actions which would in the US be listed as a minor misdemeanor are listed as Violent Crime in the UK. You are comparing two utterly different criteria.
The same, by the way, goes for sweden's rape laws. they're totally different to that of the US, or UK, or anywhere else, and that includes how they record it, so someone who's been in a domestic abuse where she was raped, for a year, lists it as 365 rapes, one for each day. the US or UK lists that as one individual instance.

You cannot compare laws from different countries when they do not record under identical criteria.

>>34195610
Fuck off, you aren't Bruce Lee, and this isn't some kung fu movie.

>>34198479
>I will destroy my argument with a comically stupid statement
>it's almost as if I was looking for (you)s
there you go, I bit it so others don't have to.

3 nigga comes at you with big ass knives that close no gun is going to save you especially if you also have to deploy it.

what could save your ass is some knife proof kevlar vest.

>>34198643
In http://blog.skepticallibertarian.com/2013/01/12/fact-checking-ben-swann-is-the-uk-really-5-times-more-violent-than-the-us/

He had watered down the UKs definition to meet the USs standard of violent crimes, and it still was nearly twice the amount of the US

>>34198643
Spitting on someone is considered criminal assault in the US.

Pushing someone aside can result in being charged with criminal assault in the US.

Pointing a fake gun around in public can lead to you being charged with criminal Assault in the US.

Domestic violence is assault/battery in the US, not limiting her spending is not. I seriously doubt that this makes up a relevant percentage of the UK's violent crime.

You could have at least googled some of these m8

Time to change /k/ to /pol/
Damn what a bunch of perma virgins keyboard warriors in here. Very speciulll forces no doubt

>>34198800
yeah man if an officer investiating a van on the side of the road or something and suddenly got jumped on by a nigga trying to smack his skull, there's no way he could draw and fire his carry gun in time.

>8 minute response time in downtown London
>fucking atrocious
Seriously brits what is going on I thought you have cameras everywhere?

>>34191329
>what the fuck, got a liveleak or youtube link or something a lil higher quality?
probably not, it's clear this is some copper who's smuggling the file out bc the britbongs have total media blackout on all of this footage.

>>34198479
>it was excellent performance

you must be high on something? btw. what are they shooting them with? why does it have basically zero effect? or are they just not hitting them at what is basically pissing/spitting distance?

>have their country rekt by foreigners
>vote for more left
Yup Bongs, great job voting today.

>>34200005
>Yup Bongs, great job voting today.

not like it matters though. t. may is supposedly "right" and she's come out as a rabid islam apologist every time she got the chance to.

>>34200000
N-Nice quints holy shit QUINT like man QUINTS like OHHH LIKE DAMN MAN THOSE ARE QUINTS HOLY SHIT OHHH YEA OHHHH QUUUUUINTS FUK YA QUIIIINSS OHHHHHH QUINTS OOOHHHHHHHH YEAEAAAHH NICE QUINTS OHHHH YEAAAHAAAAAAAAAAHHH YEAAAAHHH OHHHH

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>>34195926
With Western Europe's reproduction rates going down the powers that be have decided to just replace them with imported cheap labor. Then Merkel was the catalyst when she told the whole world to come on over we'll take care of all of you. All the blood that has been spilled in Europe is on Mama Merkel's hands.

>>34200000
Quints confirm: London police performance was far from excellent.

>>34200018
>officially capitulating to the caliphate of united islamic countries of the northern atlantic island.
SAD

>>34200157
the current state of the UK is Blair's fault. and that cheap workforce shtick is just a meme and lie. in germany after 3 gens of turk immigration the unemployment rate of turks is still 4 times that of native germans. what do you think will 25+ year old immigrans from the ME, who are even according to MSM reports 70+% illiterate in their own languages, going to work for in a country like Germany? to think that these people can or will prop up the social security system is delusional.

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>>34200265
>>34200198
>>34200135

>>34200315
Its going to be a long long summer.

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>>34200348
i think we'll be plenty entertained by muslim carnage on a monthly/weekly basis...

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wtf an actual marxist is leading the results in the british elections, a fucking marxist.

Rip, I meant rule Britannia.

>>34200484
Thats a nice loli sauce?

>>34192526
Yeah, if the street cops were armed this would have ended much earlier...the first cops on scene were reported to have run...if they had guns the shitskins would have been handled immediately

>>34192743
You are a fucking idiot

>>34192878
you literally sound like the neets you're describing. Thanks for making me look up neet.

>>34195995
God bless Texas

>>34197991
Well you got your own niggers now, violent crime in US is mainly niggers, now that you have made them your major import look for those stats to change