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New York to mandate 10 lbs "child proof" triggers

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http://www.guns.com/2017/05/24/ny-lawmakers-push-bill-requiring-child-proof-triggers-on-guns/

California: we have the most obnoxious gun laws
New York: Hold my beer
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>>34185726
Sooo basically woymn proof guns ?
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>>34185726
>Lets make everyone less accurate.
>That will make them safer.
Liberals in a nutshell
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>>34185726
Tbh this is probably a good idea, but they should only require it in homes with children.
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This could be fun.

Whip up some feminist SJW's about how the "real" intent is to disarm womyn and have them unable to protect themselves against the patriarchal machine that legitimizes marital rape and female victimhood. No longer would a woman be able to use lethal force against her attacker, because the NY legislature seems to be saying that womyn aren't to be trusted with those kinds of decisions, and they're hiding it in bills claiming to protect children...
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I thought NY was already one of the places that actually requires you to store your firearms locked up and all. What could a heavy trigger do that a safe/trigger lock doesn't?
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>>34185780
GTFO.
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>>34185780
> Hands child a gun
> Don't worry, it has a 10lbs trigger
> I'm helping

Maybe just buy a locked safe?
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>>34185726
I fucking hate my state so much. Insane taxes, crazy gun laws and I live on long Island, so I only have access to two outdoor gun ranges. Can't wait to leave this goddamn state.
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It's funny when you consider how liberals and the media kept calling this guy here a "child", a "urban youth", a "helpless teenager"

So here's the deal: How do you nigger proof a gun?
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>>34185819
It could be worse. You could live in the city like me and be unable to go to a range at all.
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>>34185808
>Safes are a great idea, they make it so the guns can't hurt anyone!
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>>34185820
You'll never stop all illegal use, but moving the drug market off the street corner and into pharmacies would go a long way. When was the last time you saw a Budweiser truck driver shoot up a Miller driver for selling at his 7/11?
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>>34185820
You have to complete an algebra test for the trigger to unlock.
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>>34185726
Not familiar with this stuff, but how hard would it be to design a system that can change it's trigger pressure on the fly
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>>34185830
Keeps kids out, practically impossible to enforce without a warrant in the US, and still provides a usable good (theft prevention to end user).

But you go on with your idea. It's not like NYC police already have a problem with missing their target and hitting bystanders.
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>>34185726
So how is this any better than say a safety
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>>34185851
I'm no gunsmith, but it should just be a matter of having one more spring in the mechanism.
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>>34185726
As always, DO NOT COMPLY. And do what you can to make sure the offending representatives do not get re-elected.
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>>34185857
My idea?
I was only pointing out that safes are retarded if you keep your primary defense weapons in them.
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Time to sell custom triggers to Ny fags.
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>>34185899
This triggers the NY gun owners, well already had repair manuals and relevant gunsmithing books on order so looks like I made a good purchase with this news
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NY Popo wanted regular folk to have the same handicap lmao
>>34185793
>Stop mansplaining, you rapeful shitlorrrrrd.
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>>34185726
This is a terrible idea. If an idiot kid gets their hands on a gun, they're gonna pull that trigger, hard or not. Making it stiffer just means they'll turn it around to point at themselves while they use both their thumbs to push the trigger.
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>>34186136
But annon it is not about protecting the children the safe storage laws kinda does that
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>>34185726
>to make it child proof
next thing they'll say is gun itself must weigh at least 60 pounds because they don't want a child to be able to pick it up
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>>34185726
looking into their eyes,
they are either cold dead lifeless souls because they know they have completely sold out to the establishment
or they are pure evil traitors that despise humanity and the idea of freedom and liberty for the common man
Liars, cheats, frauds, traitors and usurpers, all of them
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>>34186136
These people have weird fantasies about how an 8-year old is going to take it to school and shoot his classmates.
They think that story about the neo-Nazi LARPer who got killed by his own kid is the norm.
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>>34185726
I thought it was already a law, hence glocks "ny trigger"
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>>34186304
Either way will not be enforced upstate except the capital and maybe Syracuse and buffalo
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>>34185726
I'm wholly against this but if you are going to mandate some sort of method of stopping a child from pulling the trigger why not a trigger lock? Or a locked safe or stern parenting?

If anything this discriminates against the weak, women and cripples and makes the legal owner less accurate
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>>34185820
must provide proof of employment to operate the slide
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>>34185887
ABIDE BY THE LAW ANON.

Protest, sign petitions, vote for who you please but this is a nation of laws. If your state is that shitty i'd highly suggest moving.
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>>34186340
Already did all of that and more. This stopped being about safety long before the safe act here in NY
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>>34186383
Jobs pay well so it can be worth it to work there and get a second home in a free state. ICE doing its job has changed a lot of demographics in my rural area so incoming republicuck
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time to start making winter triggers and winter trigger guards for NY.

the extra length gives more leverage and reduces the felt effort.

the "winter trigger guard" gives a place for the off hand to gain more purchase on the pistol with out increasing bulk that much.
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>>34186446
rough concept
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>>34185780
DESU you're a faggot. I have three kids, one that would never touch a gun without permission and two that couldn't pull my 4 lb CZ trigger if they wanted to. And none of them have access to guns. This is typical people aren't responsible so let's give them a mechanism that luls them into a false sense of security bullshit.
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>>34186446
It is debateably more dangerous.....
....
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I need this on all my guns.
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>>34186463
>GLAWK FAWTY
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>>34185793
That would be a valid argument if anyone was allowed to defend themselves in the first place.
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>>34185851
>Not familiar with this stuff, but how hard would it be to design a system that can change it's trigger pressure on the fly


HK P7 had a grip safety that required pressure to unlock but you didn't need to hold at that pressure.
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>>34185726

>This law passes
>Manufacturers add winter triggers to guns like the stgw57
>All that leverage makes it feel lighter
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>>34185726
I'm okay with this
lanklets btfo as well.
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>>34186383
Slave mentality detected.
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>>34185726
>bowties
>non-plain shirts
How homo are these fellas?
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>>34186977
A cock is never allowed to go dry of manspit in NYC
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>>34185820
Make the holster to resemble work boots.
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New York is just exercising state's rights.
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I'm trying to imagine what a 10 pound trigger pull is like. What's the standard?
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>>34186977
Not homo, just nigrametrosexual
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>>34186383

SHALL!
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>>34187210
Double action pull on the 92fs/M9 is around 16 pounds
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>>34185780
Perhaps teach your kids about firearm safety at a young age?

Get the fuck out,
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>>34185830
pretty much...


Do you even know how safes work or were you just born a massive faggot?
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>>34185726
>Women and the elderly should not have the ability to defend themselves in one of the most dangerous and crime-riddled urban areas on the planet
>t. New York

Isn't this the same city where, every time the police fire their weapons, they hit more bystanders than criminals?

I distinctly recall an event once where the police were called to deal with one (1) guy who had a knife, whereupon they promptly shot 12 bystanders. I don't think they even hit the guy in that case, he just gave up once the shooting started.

I just don't understand why New Yorkers have such a complex and troubled relationship with reality.
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>>34186463

This is how it starts....
>year is 2600
>Hi! Ian clone #10 here with forgotten weapons.
>the signature oversized trigger guard of the M6H is an evolutionary artifact from the days from President Clinton when all pistols required a 15lb trigger pull.
> Triggers and trigger guards were made larger to compensate.
>By the time the 15lb trigger law was repealed, the right to carry firearms in public was thoroughly gutted, so portability was no longer a concern. As a result the size of the trigger guard on pistols remains a standard to this day.
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>>34187285
>crime-riddled urban areas on the planet

NYC is actually pretty safe for a major metropolitan area. You're thinking of Chicago or Los Angeles.
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>>34187285
>I just don't understand why New Yorkers have such a complex and troubled relationship with reality.
Oh they understand reality, they just don't give a fuck since it's SEP.
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>>34187320
Guiliani and (((Bloomberg))) chased all the bums and other undesirables out of Manhattan. Then sold it all to Disney and luxury apartment developers.
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>>34187320

I'm not interested in or swayed by your third-grade defense of the shithole you live in. Promptly neck yourself.

>>34187341
>since it's SEP

SEP?
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>>34185887
This, do not abide to unjust laws.

Fucking pleb if you do. Who is going to be walking around with trigger pull tools to test triggers. Fucking people are retarded.
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>>34187359
>implying I live in New York

You sound like a sensitive Trumpkin. Not every urban area is a "crime-ridden" shithole, dear.
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>>34187359
SomeoneElse'sProblem
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>>34187376
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>>34187378
also know as Limo Liberalism, Champagne Socialsim.
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>>34187285
Having moved in from a few statrs over it is a different world at times. Taxes are higher on a lot of things but so are the wages (easy to thrive if you work and budget) that said immaturity in all areas of decision making at all levels is normal. I was hired over a lot of people because I was not a gossip or a raging alcoholic..... yes that was the standard. So with this immaturity in mind throw some shiney gibs at most incomes under 100 odd thousand a year abd make a big deal of infrastructure working like it is supposed to and people start to think the gov looks out for their interests and cares about them. To be fair our department of labor does do both even if they also protect illegals but generally most of my neighbors have no concept how much money is wasted and no idea how much better a living they can make elsewhere with skill sets and cheaper housing. And those that do move to texas or florida
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>>34185726
What exactly would stop people from buying lighter trigger springs and installing it themselves? Are police going to fucking disassemble and measure the trigger pull weight?
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>>34187376

Firstly, drop the childish hyper-sensitivity shit. You look like a fool getting this worked up about some comments on the internet.

Secondly, I don't care about your shitty little city. It has a murder rate that makes my hometown look like candy land, and that's the only thing I care about.

If you don't want to be accused of being an idiot, don't live in a bad city and don't try to defend it on the internet to strangers who don't care about you and told you to kill yourself. Dumbass.

>>34187378

Got it. Thank you.
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>>34185793
Most of them don't want to be able to handle firearms in the first place.
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>>34187320
Was, the current mayor is setting the stage for a return to the 70-90's and crime is already trending up
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>>34187415
The only one getting worked up here is you.

You get awfully upset when someone points out the fallacy of your claims.

And I just told you I don't live in New York. You're pretty dense, but you clearly don't care since it supports your rant.
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just leave the fucking state stop funding the shithole it's insane.
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>they just make it worse

holy shit how do they keep doing it?


Also I love the idiots saying "haha juck pack up and leave your life!! xd!!"
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>>34187448
race mixing communist De Blasio.
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>>34187367
> unjust laws

I find the concept of the government telling me I cannot sell specific plants and plant accessories unjust. I also find the concept of my employees who sell these products being unarmed against other entrepreneurs who wish to take our customers unjust. Therefore I and my employees will continue to arm ourselves and use lethal force to defend our business in what I consider a just manner.

Just as it is my full responsibility to avoid police in order to stay out of jail, it is your full responsibility to stay off our street corner where we do business for your own safety.

I have been told I should consider the implications of my actions upon others when I decide which laws are just or not, but frankly, that's some weak ass German Enlightenment bullshit so I do what I want.
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>>34186977
On a scale of 1 to shitskin? Shitskin.
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>>34187518

>Comparing not following unjust laws to theatening people about weed.

Have run with your single shot rifle in 10 years you cuck.
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>>34187473
not that anon but
>new york is the only state with cities
Wot, he never said you were from new york and you're back peddling hard as fuck.
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>>34187518
>some mind altering drug is illegal
>'well i dont support that! and am willing to be a criminal for it!'
Yep you're a retard. 'muh weed' idiots like you need to re-asses your fucking lives.
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>>34185726
Idiots
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>>34187491
........I have no face upon realizing you are literally correct in total
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>>34187608
>he never said you were from new york
>point out NYC is statistically relatively safe for its size
>"I'm not interested in or swayed by your third-grade defense of the shithole you live in."

Sure.
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>>34187641
Are you retarded?
He insulted you personally and said that any city is going to have a higher violence rate purely by numbers. At no point did he assume you lived in ny and even your post here >>34187376 came out of fucking nowhere.

You thinking your higher population area is going to be less violent than a lower population area is fucking stupid. You are fucking stupid. The things you're trying to say are fucking stupid.
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>>34187641
Statistically safe for now yes. I don't see it getting as bad a Philly but it is trending towards higher violent crime. That said I wouldn't call NYC third world because of crime. I would say poor living conditions and substandard housing that most jobs can barely make affordable for jobs that are nor professional political or very well represented by the union
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>>34185780
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>>34185780
Shill or bait?
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>>34187056
Underrated
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Everyone bitches about New York and Kalifornia, but no one remember Hawaii.
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>>34187914
No one remembers Hawaii, period
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>>34187056
Work boots are a fashion accessory to them.
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>>34185780
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>>34185795
De facto ban every gun that can't be cuckverted

Between magazine capacity laws and this, the Jew York special is now a shitty DAO 5 or 6 shot revolver. Which only the rich and connected are allowed to carry.
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>>34187914
no one cares about the beach-niggers, they are so far down the shitter that there is no saving them.
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>>34185820
only allow black powder revolvers. niggers don't have the iq or will power to reload and clean their weapons properly.
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>>34187633
underrated
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>>34185804
>>34185808
>>34185857
>>34186492
>>34187272
>>34187280
>>34187700
>>34187848
>>34187968
Im a professional (You) farmer and you niggers just helped me meet my daily quota.
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>>34187257
really? HAHAHAHA 16 FUCKING POUNDS

t. anon who has mastered his double action trigger pull on the 92fs
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>>34187998
"Glocks" coming in multiple calibers already nigger proofs a lot of urban youths firearms
>9mm loaded into a hipoint c40
>H&K loaded mags
>3 different calibers of ammo in the same gun
>No mag single shot nigoperator
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>>34187402
They're going to send Dianne Feinstein to personally come into your homes with two policemen behind her. She's going demand that you allow her to inspect your guns personally. The policemen will sit you in a chair both of them with their hands firmly gripping your shoulders. She'll glare in your eyes with a sideways smile planted on her wrinkled face as she finger fucks your gun; dry firing it, racking it, and put her finger in all it's holes. They'll wrap it up and say it's all safe and leave. All you can do afterwards is hold your poor defiled firearm and cry. You know it's not about "safety", they know it's not about the safety, and you know they know it's not about the safety.
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>>34187621
This country was founded on cannabis tobacco, guns, and cotton. Whether or not you like pot, if you are opposed to it yet support the rest of our founding priciples EG. The bill of rights, you are a hypocrit.

>We hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness….

>Pursuit of happiness is inaliable.
>Cant possess the plant this document is printed upon.

Choose one faggot. I choose not to smoke because i like having a good short and long term memory, yet if my neighbor decides a bit of weed makes him happy not only is it my duty to leave him to his choice, it is also my duty to defend his right to do it.

And dont fucking come out with some bullshit like "hurr durr murder makes me happy" smoking pot in no way infringes on any other persons rights.
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>>34187182
Why don't you go b8 somewhere else
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>>34188097
The declaration was printed on parchment. If you didn't spend your time sucking weed or shilling for weed you might know that. Fucking neck yourself
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>>34185726
only in the usa

nothing else is regulated except guns
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>>34185819
I know the struggle, Calverton isn't too bad at least
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>>34188173
The final document was, the first and second draft were penned on hemp.
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>>34188219
Gotta love the irony of young /k/autists spasing out about gun control legislation while in the same breath defending plant regulation.
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
GOD DAMN IT WHY CAN'T I GET ENOUGH MONEY TO MOVE FASTER

utah plz
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>>34185820
Make them like Judge Dredd's Enforcer pistol where it kills unauthorized users.
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>>34185793
Go further, focus on people with disabilities too, and use the words "systematic discrimination" a lot
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This seems like a good place to ask. How are gun laws in Massachusetts? When I get off Long Island, I plan on living somewhere I can spend my days off firing .308 and smoking pot.
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>>34188533
Out of the frying pan
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>>34188556
That bad, huh? Perhaps I'll move to Colorado. It's a shame, though, I do like the ocean.
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>>34187946
Those laces. Absolutely disgusting
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>>34188533
Vermont or New Hampshire
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>>34188605
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>>34188880
So averse to work they can't even lace a work boot. Like the laces repel their hands.
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>>34185777
when every self defense case involves as many innocent bystanders being shot as any police shooting in NY it becomes easy to legislate against self defense and it poisons the pool of national statistics. it fulfills their agenda on a local and national level.

>>34188880
>>34188952
>>34188605
>>34187946
nevermind the niggers, stay on topic because the mods will delete this thread for actually discussing weapons related topics.
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>>34188363
>something used to keep government and laws in check and citizens protected
>vs something that just gets you high
What in the fuck are you even trying to say.
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>>34188363
gay marriage is retarded.
call it that as a colloquialism if you must but no church should be forced to marry fags or provide a venue for fags, speaking as one.

>>34189043
i take alcohol for the explicit purpose of getting high.

captcha: beer farmacia
GOOGLE KNOWS
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>>34189069
Yes but alcohol was illegal for a while. To the point of the government poisoning its own citizens. If you think weed is so important why dont you make it the base of your life and propose here in the US. Oh wait because weed is for millennials who cant grow up...

>hur dur legalize pot
>'okay but it will be taxes and regulated like everything else'
>WHAT NO DONT DO THAT

Which one is it retards, do you want freedom? Or government consent.
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>>34189105
>>WHAT NO DONT DO THAT
i don't think anyone is saying that at all beyond the fact that regulation sucks invariably.
legality is simply prevalence. when something is so prevalent as to inspire inconvenient resistance, tax it. that was more the point than your butthurt boomer rant about some perceived millennial irresponsibility.
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>>34187914
There's a bit of an ocean between us and them.
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>>34185726
I fucking hate these ny faggots and their gay ass bowties
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When did /k/ suddenly start hating states' rights?
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>>34189142
Around 2009 after everyone realized Libertarians are just bullshitters and a hardline interpretation of the Constitution is the only path to liberty. The tenth amendment only covers things that aren't in the preceding nine.
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>>34189124
>taking things out of context -the post
Looks anon im in my mid 20s and even I can tell how fucking shit drugs and alcohol are on society and people. Fucking embarrassing that people are even pushing for any kind of legalization when they're too retarded to even know what they're doing in life.
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>>34189184
if you're such a teetotaler i can't even imagine the effect you think free thought can have upon a mind. Shocking!
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>>34189142
>states should have the rights to overly restrict the rights of human beings where the constitution explicitly forbids it and the supreme court has agreed
we buried 650k and crippled another 750k to settle this question.
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>>34189204
Being incubated by drugs and alcohol isnt free though.
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>>34186383
>ABIDE BY THE LAW

I agree. It's time the people make criminal politicians pay for violating the Second Amendment.
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>>34189289
sure sounds like individual determinism to me, how do you define freedom from the collective comrade?
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>>34185726
Thankfully this will never pass. As awful as NY gun laws are there are even crazier bills that get defeated in the legislature every year. You see NY is politically dominated by NYC being the population center but everywhere else in the state gun control is very unpopular.
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>>34186383
That's stupid.
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>>34189424
Whats it like to decide what others opinions mean and how they should feel just so you can get high?
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>>34185780
You know we can tell you are an interloper right?
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>>34188052
DELETE THIS
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>>34185726
>Hold my beer
I think you meant "holy my disgusting vegetable smoothy"
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>>34189547
Whats it like to decide what others opinions mean just so you can determine how they act?
We can go in circles all day you authoritarian over dodger.
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>>34189597
Smoothies are fire. Have you ever even been to jamba juice?
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>>34185820
Show currently paid child support papers.
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>>34189714
>I know nothing about this person besides them thinking legalize drugs in america with our population and prison rates is a bad idea!
>authoritarian
What, the fuck?...
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>>34189877
>the government has a right to tell people they cannot purchase, inhale, process, or ingest a plant
The government has no right to tell people what they are and are not allowed to purchase beyond human beings, because purchasing and owning a human being would impede upon an individual's rights to liberty. Just to head off the 'LMAO SO YOU WANT PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO BUY CHILDREN :^^^)' shit you faggots always pull out.
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>>34185820
Accelerometer, so the gun has to be held upright.
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>>34189877
>this person dosnt want to legalize drugs in america because our prison rates are huge
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>>34190632
Now if a parent may own his child (within the framework of non-aggression and runaway freedom), then he may also transfer that ownership to someone else. He may give the child out for adoption, or he may sell the rights to the child in a voluntary contract. In short, we must face the fact that the purely free society will have a flourishing free market in children.
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>>34185726
>oh wow, that trigger got worn out in such a way that the trigger pull is 12 ounces.
>prove otherwise faggot
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>>34190632
>beyond human beings
You're a statist. Stop rejecting property rights and self ownership.
If one can own themselves, then they can sell themselves.

One sells their labor while alive.
One can preemptively sell their corpse while alive.
One can sell products/portions of their body while alive.
Why do you believe that a person can not simultaneously sell their body and lifetime's worth of labor?
(you're a faggot)

>because purchasing and owning a human being would impede upon an individual's rights to liberty.
Rights are restrictions on the government, not individuals. The only case that you can make is that state ownership of people is wrong/illegal.
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>>34187448
Taxi Driver: real life edition when?
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>>34191839
First thing i thought
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>>34191076
Child acting programs are proof of this. The audition scene from Brüno comes to mind.
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>>34191884
I'll bet Easy Andy has guns with less than 10 pound triggers.
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>>34192020
Im now taking investments to sell real guns to jew yorkers.
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>>34188530
This, the argument could be eye opening.
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>>34189184
You must be a fucking blast at parties, kid.
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>>34191643
>sell their body and lifetime's worth of labor?

Because you don't make a profit if you're a slave.
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>>34185780
GET THE FUCK OUT OF /k/
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>>34188026
So, you're wasting your life away on 4chan for a bit of attention? That's actually kind of sad, even by 4chan's standards.
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>>34188026
>i was merely pretending
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>>34185726
This bill discriminates people with arthritis. Is there anyway to overturn this?
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>>34192531
Bring up a suit that this discriminates against weak hands and is an ablest bill that is also racist and sexist against both asians and women.

Use the Dem's weapons against them, essentially.
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>>34185777
Well a farmer down the road managed to shoot my house with a stray bullet today, so I'm not to sure how we could make guns less accurate. (I live in NY)
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>>34187318
I read this in his voice
I hope this isnt a prediction
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>>34185780
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>>34192531
Weak hand millennial scum.
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>>34185726
>bill has been proposed every legislative session since the 2009-2010 session
>bill has only made it out of committee once, during the 2009-2010 session, but wasn't even voted on
>bill will once again go nowhere join the countless number of stupid bill that will go nowhere that get proposed every year
>no one has pointed this out yet after 165 posts
>retards going on about ridiculous ways around the restrictions without reading the bill and seeing that it doesn't affect guns with manual safeties
Jesus /k/ has gone down hill.
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>>34189069
>colloquialism
>marriage
>church
>venue
Know how I know you're a moron?
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>>34189184
>I'm in my twenties and I'm mighty and wise, believe me!
You're a moron, you're actually a decade late on the maturity scale. Stop talking so much and start listening more.
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>>34193057
>Glockfags BTFO
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>>34186266
60lbs you say?
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>>34187946
What is it with niggers and not tightening things? Pants, laces, boots, belts, etc
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>>34193057
why let reality and context interrupt pandering?
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>>34186383
> If your state is that shitty i'd highly suggest moving.

California here. That's a non-starter. Running away from a problem doesn't fix the problem. What it does do, though, is give the grabbers a bastion from which to spread.

If onerous laws are passed without complaint or resistance in NY, that has a direct impact on the future gun rights of the citizens in the other states within the 2nd Circuit. Circuit court rulings are one of the things SCOTUS looks at when they consider cases on related topics.

It's not just about your state. Find out which other states are in your Circuit, then find out which one has the worst gun laws. Those are the laws you could see passing in your state in your lifetime.

And that's why the "just move" mantra is pointless and harmful.
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>>34193838
California, realistically you cannot change the culture of your state to preserve your rights. The only way to preserve gun rights is to bring more people into the hobby and the sport. Considering the relatively high barrier to entry in your state it is more than likely not going to help to stand and fight.
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>>34189184
>I'm a moral busybody.jpg
Your exact thought process is why menopausal cunts throughout history have been fighting to rid us of the evils of alcohol, tobacco, and firearms.

Literally let the heroin addicts kill themselves if they won't seek help willingly.
Literally let the pot smoking hippies and niggers wallow of mediocrity and decreased lung capacity
Literally let the alcoholics blow up their livers

As long as they are not infringing upon someone else's rights, leave them the fuck alone to live how they see fit.
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>>34187376
Taking cherry picking small sample size for urban "area" instead of looking at cities as a whole which are more dense than rural areas which creates more opportunity for confrontation and escalation.
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>>34188530
Don't forget to use "urban poor" and "minorities" and "the economically disadvantaged"
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>>34185726
>kid tries to pull trigger like normal
>uses critical thinking to determine that thumbs, are in fact stronger
>repositions gun so they can pull trigger with thumbs
>remove head
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>>34192344
Dubz o troof

Yet at the same time indentured servitude was how a large number of Europeans came to the America's

And it could be argued that "we are going to not kill you in exchange for your agreement to bondage" is an economic contract between African slaver state and interior raided nation.

If anything slavery without "birthright slavery" would be a morally consistent position. A person could be in a lifetime of bondage due to _____ reason but their decendants would not be. Basically indentured servitude.
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>>34191585
>The barrel was worn down naturally to less than 16"
>Your move Mr lawman!
>Arrested and convicted of violating the NFA
>15 year stay on club fed, all expenses paid but for the long-term continency of your butthole
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>>34185820
Make them read the manual.
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>>34185726
>revolvers and DAO pistols only
I'd be fine with this, honestly.
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>>34190632
>dude if weed isnt legal you might as well own children

This is why you retards will never get it legalize. You're so up your own ass.
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>>34185726
Some States need to leave the Union
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>>34186383
No Anon can't move because the cancer will spread. NY,CA, MD, and Massholes should have to take a citizenship test if they want to repatriate to the United States
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>>34192268
Bitch please if we want them we will get them. It will be hilarious that the mafia would be the most likely group to break the law to get around prohibition again
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>discriminating against people with SMALL HANDS

Someone tell the president
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>>34194612
This is the moral way forward. If it doesn't directly harm me I couldn't give a fuck.
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>>34194696
I get your point but that's a terrible analogy, at least the other guys ways possible with 7 gorillion rounds of regular use
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>>34193057
Oh shit, someone else knows that this isn't new? Wait you don't live here too do you? I wouldn't wish that on anyone.
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>>34196614
No, I simply followed the link to the bill in the article to read over it myself and saw that the site they link to for you to read the bill actually lists all the previous times its been proposed.
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>>34188880
It's like niggers pride themselves on parading around like useless children. Tie your fucking boots!
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