>tfw you will never ever combat drop onto an airless planetoid

>>34176408
thank god. on of the Battletech books I read had a nicely detailed paragraph describing a pilot boiled to death inside their cockpit when the hull of their Mech was breached while fighting on some methane gas covered planet.

>>34176437
>refusing to fight and die for your house lord in the hightech barbarity of the succession wars

>>34176408
why would I want to do that?

>>34176437
A methane atmosphere planet would be colder, not warmer

Tfw you'll never have a mech

>>34176408
What's the point of giant sized mechs anyways?
Legs are such a liability

Even in game, the best strategy was to disable the leg for an ez win

>>34176408
But I like air.

>>34176598
Mobility
They can go where tracks, wheels, or hover skirt cannot

>>34176620
Where can a legged vehicle go that a tracked one can't?

Giant implausible stairs?

I used to bull's-eye womp rats in my T-16 back home. They're not much bigger than two meters.

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>>34176408
>miscalculating your trajectory and hitting the surface too hard
>bouncing back up into space while leaking air

>>34176628
>land on low gravity space rock with tank/tracked vehicle
>tank now wants to drive hull-up unless going very slow

it makes sense for SPESS

>>34176584
Saying this without knowledge of planet size, length of day, or distance from the star

>>34176668
If it's that light, why not just move around on a thruster basis?
I mean a wheeled vehicle worked just fine on the moon.
If it's so light that torque from the wheels will throw you into the air, why would fucking legs better?

>>34176748
The only objects with a significant presence of methane in their atmospheres are Titan, Uranus, and Neptune.
All real chilly.

Methane also doesn't last long under high heat or radiation. It breaks down.
So even if somehow an event moved a formerly methane rich atmosphered object into a closer orbit, it wouldn't last long as a "methane" atmosphered planet

>>34176598
They're dropped from orbit and generally are expected to operate independently in any situation.

I suppose you could build a tank that had a big arm that let it flip itself upright and help it scale broken terrain, but you do what you want.

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>>34176408
Those are some pretty funny looking Destroids.

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>tfw the tank is only weighing you down

>>34177326
The M3 Lee was the best tank of North Africa. Partially because it was the only one that didn't break down in the heat and sand.

>>34176408
>tfw no KGC-001 to snipe Clanners from the hills of Tukkayid

It's an abstract kind of feel

************ THIS IS A PUBLIC BATTLETECH-SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT ************


DO NOT QUESTION THE EXISTENCE OF 'MECHS

'MECHS EXIST BECAUSE 100TONNES OF WALKING DEATH ARE RADICAL AWESOME

BEING AWESOME OVERWRITES THE NEED TO EXPLAIN ONES RIGHT FOR EXISTENCE

'MECHS ARE RADICAL THEREFORE SHOULD EXIST

DO. NOT. QUESTION. THE. LEGS.

************ THIS HAS BEEN A PUBLIC BATTLETECH-SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT ************

>>34176628
It's Battletech, I ain't got to explain shit

Is this the Macross thread?

>>34178183
Macross: Let's take the stupidity of mechs and turn it up to 11. All while trying to be serious

New Battletech game when?

Where's my fucking AAA graphics whore mech simulator?
Just don't make it feel like a FPS where instead of soldiers, you have walking tanks.
Make it feel heavy god damn it

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>>34178183
gtfo

Can we take a moment to appreciate how much more alien the Clans are than most alien societies in science fiction?

>>34178160
>>34178210
when are we getting a battletech game where we get tabletop dexterity and physical combat similar to Hawken, but not ded.

>walking tanks
you are part of the problem

>>34178239
It is better that the clans have a somewhat believable, detailed and unique, society rather than the usual sci-fi tropes. Same for IS whose politics are just as colorful as real life.

Think about it for a moment. We have ISIS, Russia taking over Crimea, China militarily expanding onto artificial islands and all the other crazy violent shit going on everywhere else.

>>34178262
what are you even on about? i never mentioned walking tanks in the public service announcement...

i just want people to stop arguing about the viability of 'mechs having legs. that just devolves into shitposting and acting like 3rd graders.

>>34178262
Battletech is LITERALLY walking talks
I'm pretty sure they use that term in the promo material

>>34178192
Says the fucking BT fan.

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>>34178210
>Where's my fucking AAA graphics whore mech simulator?

Only Japanese make mech simulators, anon.
I can't think of any western simulator games, only arcade shooters like Mechassault or Mechwarrior, maybe Heavy Gear? Did Heavy Gear simulate anything or was that also an arcade game? The first one was based on MW2, but it's not like you couldn't simulate stuff back then.

>>34178313
Battletech is only around an 7 on the "Stupidity of Mechs" scale

Cutting the Atlas would bring it down to a solid respectable 6

>>34178293
BTech is a top-tier setting for lorefags

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>>34178183
I guess so.

>>34178309
but the point is that they aren't limited to 2d movement like tanks, they can climb (to an extent) jump and strafe and generally have different roles in combat.


in all the MechWarrior games they are analogue to tanks,

>>34178318
Heavy Gear 2 had melee weapons and 6 degrees freedom zero g space battles.

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>>34178239
>>34178293
>>34178335
Explain

>>34178348
>in all the MechWarrior games they are analogue to tanks,
Well excluding the fact that you can put jump jets on anything and that battlefields had 3d design instead of just being flat fields

its coming

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DdXpmn6Up4

>>34178357
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h92N63ElI4s

>>34178327
>Battletech is only around an 7 on the "Stupidity of Mechs" scale
have you even read some of the figures that BT mechs are running on?
macross is far more plausible in terms of its designs.

>>34178380
>liking autistic calcs

>>34178395
>not liking numbers and background lore autism

>>34178378
Thanks that looks just what I want
I'll give it a listen when I'm drunk enough to fully appreciate it

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I've been playing battletech for 25 years now.

>>34178437
What do you think about the video games?
Grew up playing MW3 thinking it's the greatest thing ever

>>34178415
Fuck off back to SB

>>34176408
why do that? you can shoot everything you want from orbit.

>>34177326
>single tommy gun
>everyone else has .45 revolvers
>we are the real cowboys

>>34178458
make me

>>34178501
It's amazing that Japan of all places has the most faithful adaptation of the book.

I wonder how much they like it. Heinlein's society seems "bushido-esque"

>>34178534
Did you hear about the new ST animated movie?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wq5KEUbrlag

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>>34176584
I think he means the dude inside boiled from the pressure drop not high temp.

>>34178534
>It's amazing that Japan of all places has the most faithful adaptation of the book.

If you don't know much about their sci-fi boner, maybe?

Take a look at Gundam. For some it's Space Samurai bullshit.
And then you look at it and find out that:
The mechs are based in Heinlein's description of what the infantry suits looked like and how they worked, just upscaled to bigger proportions. They're even called mobile suits after Heinlein's Mobile Suits.
Likewise, most real robots, Macross included, owe their origins to the people who loved that book.
Then there's other bit of Japanese sci-fi boner and that is Star Wars. These guys love Star Wars to no end, hence the literal light sabers seen in there.

They also have a big thing for Blade Runner and the output of those was also beyond amazing.


Simply put, Japan in the last century was a technological dreamland and these people ate up all great SCI-FI there was because to them it was near and achievable future.
[spoiler]And then the economy collapsed and all went to shit for them.[/spoiler]

>>34178653
>The mechs are based in Heinlein's description of what the infantry suits looked like and how they worked, just upscaled to bigger proportions. They're even called mobile suits after Heinlein's Mobile Suits.
Supposedly wasn't Gundam going to have power armor like Starship Troopers instead of the 18m tall mechs?

>>34178707
Yeah, I think Tomino was aiming for that, and that the Mobile Suits were just hastily reskinned designs for a planned ST anime.

>>34178653
>>34178724
It's actually pretty crazy how interconnected the 80's japanese mecha scene was.
If I recall, there were a few people in Studio Nue who worked on the original Gundam.

>>34178375
What sucks about that robot is it shifts its entire weight to balance on one foot in every half-stride. That's fucking stupid, you don't balance on one foot when you walk.

Just make sure the other foot shows up before it keels over.

>>34178437
>tfw I made that image 5 years ago

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>>34178501
I saw some pictures for a full scale suit it looked pretty good, but I have to locate them

>>34178318
Theres a guy from /diy/ who goes by mechdude that made an awesome full simulator. Might have to search the archives for his work though

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>>34178457
I've played them all, including the old Crescent hawks series. I love them, and for some reason I can't get mech commander 1 to work anymore it's upsetting. I still play the hell out of the mektek mw4. Not big on MWO because not an online gamer.

>>34178811
Double dubz are your reward for such good art anon.

Lastly my favorite mech, I have a drawing of one on my work desk.

>>34178653
>If you don't know much about their sci-fi boner, maybe?
I just figured that Japan might be against a book written by a US veteran and about a very American style world hegemony

>>34178933
There are plenty of westaboos in nipland.

>>34178923
Yeah, but you named the file wrong. It's suppossed to be SADCAT.jpg

>>34179006
I'm a fan of the Hauptman's cigar laser

I wish Drac mechs weren't generally shit

>>34178933
>I just figured that Japan might be against a book written by a US veteran

For one, it was the Americans who held the grudge against Japan for so long. They hated the fuck out of 'Merica, but by the late 70s and 80s? The people making these things were only kids during the war.

Likewise "American style hegemony" when it's basically just another fascist regime. Remember who else had no qualms about forming a fascist empire? They're not Germans to be scared shitless of their past. Fascism is all about excessive effectivness at the cost of personal freedom and that is not exactly that special to Asians.
Heck, the modern South Korea got where it is because it went through a phase of dictatorship and they seem mostly fine with it.

>>34179025
Dracs are all about that speed, and they do have great 'Mechs once you get past the panther/jenner/dragon, plus they're big users of C3, have the Hatamoto-Chi which is a Thug that looks like a samurai.

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>>34179006
Noted I'll change it up!

>>34179025
They are fun as fuck and Dracs just love SHS and those god awful MRMs. Grand Dragons are fun as fuck to play with.

>>34179031
>when it's basically just another fascist regime
This meme again

The world in Starship Troopers is not fascist.
Not even close

http://store.steampowered.com/app/416020/Heavy_Gear_Assault/

What is this.

>>34179103
a disappointment.

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>>34179071
I'll be the firs to admit to not be all that well versed in these things and I was repeating someone else's opinions.
Still, the point about them not really having much of a reason to not like the book stands, I think.

>>34179103
A sinking ship.

Basically MekTek guys (the endless updates and support for MW4) wanted to make their own game as a team.
However, their first attempt was a Battletech game and that got removed when Mechwarrior Online and PGI stepped up.

Now willing to give up, they took the Activision route and settled for Heavy Gear.
Before they could show the game to the public, MWO started its endless milking scheme and there wasn't much left for them, so all efforts to fund the game failed.
Now they're just going off of unmentioned partnerships and really don't seem to have much of a future.

Imo, guys should have dropped MW4 long ago and made their game much sooner like the MWLL people (who already got hired with it by the time MWO could shut them down).

>>34179192
>Still, the point about them not really having much of a reason to not like the book stands, I think.
That's true
The philosophy of SST is very focused toward societal responsibility over personal responsibility

>>34179060
>SHS in the 3050s and 60s

>>34178571
So the first ST film but animated?

>>34179192
speaking of wich mwll is under development again

>>34180189
The first film had nothing to do with betrayal