Concealed Carry

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My heart wants to go sig p228
>15 rounds of 9mm
>great trigger especially with SRT installed
>satisfies German fetish
> great feeling gun
I rented one (p229 with e2) with my dad over Christmas break and loved the way it felt

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But my brain is telling me go Glock 20
>not much larger than the p228 (grip length and thickness wise)
>pretty good trigger with a very easy to use reset (tested a glock 22)
>15 rounds of 700 ft Ilb underwood gold dots
>same weight unloaded as p228

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And then my dick is screaming at me to go beretta m9, which I actually found to be MORE ergonomic than the p229 that I tested, and i felt it had a somewhat better trigger. It's also larger than the p228, and I wonder if I'd even be able to conceal it under my usual dress shirt (bloused) and khakis.

Then of course there's my ultimate just go with what your cock gets hard to, which is an ed Brown executive elite.

Which one should I go with? What other suggestions do you guys have?

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>>34170152
If I went with the glock 20, I'd probably also buy a 19 for times when concealment was a priority. Since s&b makes good warmish 10mm for 31 cents per round, ammo costs wouldn't be a big deal

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what is your height and weight?
I'm 6'2, 200pounds and carry a full sized usp 9mm and honesty, its a tad large in summerwear. there's a reason most folk dont go much larger than a glock 19. I think you underestimate how large and heavy these guns are to wear all day

>>34170123
>satisfies German fetish

Except it doesn't if its a new one made in new hampshire.

I compared my german sig P6 to my friend's SP2022 and quality difference is pretty apparent. Avoid the plastic framed SIGs as they all look/feel like crap

>>34170219
6'0 200, my clothes have a natural drape from a couple years of lifting weights.

I was also thinking USP - but I'd have to full size for those Teutonic aesthetics.

Money isn't a huge deal, I saved up around 3k from working over the summer/ on campus

>>34170238
Yeah I was going to go with a used p228

For the record I think p6s are a really good value, I even like the funky looking hammer

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I want to get my ccw permit but I live in one of the whitest states and safest cities in the United States and I simply don't need it.

>>34170254
Honestly, I live in Atlanta and save for the odd crackhead I don't really ever feel nervous about my safety. I just really really want to get into concealed carry, and I like the idea of having it and not needing it vs the other way around

>>34170271
dude if I lived in Atlanta I'd carry and keep my AK in my car

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I just looked into it and I think I'm going to go beretta 92compact without the rail. It still retains the m9 look that I really like while being a bit more practical for cc. And I still get 13 rounds of 9mm with the option to install night sights (I probably won't).

What do you guys think? They're online for 600 + shipping

>>34170298
>kek

It's not too bad, the thuggish blacks usually stay in the ghetto. The downtown and the surrounding suburbs are actually really nice and well maintained.

>>34170314
If you like metal guns with the beretta 92 feel, look into CZ 75 variants. They are made better and perform worlds better than berettas.

these discussions are pretty boring because all modern guns from quality makers are more or less the same quality level. so the question comes down to
>do I want high quality engineered device A, or high quality engineered device B?
just go with whatever gives you the biggest boner.

>>34170338
Then it's basically down to the ed brown or the beretta 92c

I'll test out a 1911 and a 92fs and see which one I shoot better at the range when I get the chance.

>>34170329
>around blacks never relax
I'm sure it's not that bad but yeah, way too dark for me.

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>>34170103
>Concealed Carry
beta as fuck bro.

open carry or don't carry at all.

>>34170363
Please don't derail my thread Callum

>>34170239
>my clothes have a natural drape
keep telling yourself that. the roll up with your 2 pound 10mm printing like a motherfucker. a smaller and lighter gun is a more comfortable gun to carry. if its comfortable you'll wear it more and it has a better chance of protecting you

also, your belt and holster is CRUCIAL.

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There is nothing better than being a free man.

>>34170384
this is why you open carry

>>34170384
Hey they do have a drape but you're probably right, the glock 20 would probably still print with the clothes that I wear. I'm probably going to go Milt Sparks Criterion with a milt sparks belt.

In a similar vein, I just got a 1911 full size, and I need an innawoods holster. I often wear a backpack, so belt/ waistband stuff is not going to work. Suggestions /k/?

I own a G20, and it is a big gun for summertime carry. Big gun all the time, actually. It's one of my favorite guns that I thought I would carry it all the time but I really don't, it is too heavy for daily carry. I ended up getting a G43 that has a lot more mileage as it is much more /comfy/

>>34170392
Keylet detected, it's like you don't have any responsibilities.

>>34170336
Listen I love cz as much as the next guy but Berettas fit and finnish is amazing and czs is just not on the same level.

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>>34170426
How would the backpack interfere?

At any rate, if you're innawoods I'd imagine open carry would be fine? El Paso makes a really sweet tanker holster you might want to check out (the strap attaching to belt can be removed)

>>34170440
That's what I'm afraid of, thanks for your input

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>>34170446
you faggots, you yell at me for having too many keys then you yell at me for not having enough keys, you know what,

>>34170426
I had the same problem. It was either a dropleg which looked uncomfortable as fuck or a duty holster so it dropped off the belt line a few inches. Neither looked like they would be comfortable on long hikes. Check out the hill people gear recon bag and a Velcro holster from its tactical. Was a good compromise and added some utility. I'm phoneposting so I can't add links.

>>34170468
Yeah, OC holster for now, might look into a CC holster for just dicking around later on.
I use a hip belt, it's either an external frame backpacking pack or an ILBE assualt pack, so any belt/ waistband stuff would be inaccessible. That El Paso tanker holster looks pretty dope, any idea how they compare with these ones on IMA:
http://www.ima-usa.com/u-s-wwii-m3-45-1911-pistol-leather-shoulder-holster-chocolate-brown.html

>>34170519
Now there's a man with property and responsibilities. Get a flip phone if you want to look less gay, though.

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>>34170609
>calling my patriotic smart phone gay
communist detected. revoke all gun rights, signed up for helicopter ride

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you can call me an idiot but i carry a type 54 tokarev in a SOB holster. I carry it with the half cock on and an empty chamber to prevent ND's (halfcock locks both the slide and trigger) but ive drilled to draw, thumb back the hammer, and rack the slide pretty quickly. I can do it one handed pretty well too, since the sights are big and i can easily rack the slide on my belt, pocket, or even my hip.

its a good gun and its all ive got, and im happy with it till i can get a beretta

>>34170639
>patriotic smart phone
made in china plastic shit.

>>34170639
Nigga, that's just a case. A case containing a ChiCom made gummint surveillance device.

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>>34170676
Why are you still here, no one listens to you or even thinks about you at all.

>>34170700
really. is that really the situation. tell me the trurth.

>>34170447
Fair. I can't tell you what to like. The m9a1 is sweeet, and so is the a3

>>34170557
This is an interesting company to say the least. I kind of like their vibe. If I hadn't just ordered an Asbell wool poncho I might be considering their Mountain Serape for my illegal sniper larper target shooting trips. Anyway, thnks for the suggestion anon, I'll be mulling it over.

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>>34170694
The case was made in USA, the phone was free. My heart is in the right place.

>>34170700

That's far from the truth. We talk about Callum all the time, use him as an example of how not to do shit.

there is also other trip fags that are far worst than Callum. CSF, Sogfag, SAoperator, those three alone are more annoying and gay than Callum.

>>34170762
they certainly is more gay then me. im all about that pussy.

>>34170779
>they certainly IS
are you black?

H&R 732 or bersa 383.

Pocket holster or iwb.

>>34170779

See, he's all about the pussy, I just can't argue with that. He was right, that flag phone case is gay as fuck.

>>34170801
no i live in the south. its not like we all grew up in the hamptons with movie stars and went to private schools. i speak liek where im from.

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>>34170816
Kid you're not even old enough to drink, definitely not old enough to crack jokes.

>>34170829
The Pacific Northwest public schools I attended are probably magnitudes better than your best private school Cletus.

Just turned 21 last month and applied. Which conveniently is the same month they introduced conceal carry for 18+. BAKA. Hopefully approved within the next month

>>34170672
I know it's an arfcom meme but people please stop posting your feet

>>34170857
enjoy you're rain an drug addicts.

>>34170837

>kid
only faggots and old people address some one that way.

Again, your phone case is gay as shit, always get made fun of in EDC threads.

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>>34170314
I've handled 92fs compacts and they're not much smaller than the regular one, they are also a bit bulky. A great alternative would be a CZ-75 D PCR (which is what I carry) its a bit smaller and standard mags holds 14+1. Handle them both but I'm almost positive the PCR is going to be easier

>>34170875
See I would almost protest against it out of spite. Three years is an incredibly long time - I feel your pain

>>34170103
That looks like open carry to me

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>>34170907
>>34170904
What else should I address a kid besides a kid? Youngster? Anyways I'm gonna go so you don't get to have the last word (as kids never should with an adult) and leave you and your boyfriend Callum alone in your gay thread.

>>34170918
I'm kind of worried about the thickness of the grip, which is why I'm kind of leaning towards 1911 or polymer. I do love the way thick metal framed double stacks feel in the hand.

I really just don't want to drop 6 bills on a pistol that ends up never getting carried unless I'm wearing baggy clothes - I keep it corporate casual bby.

>>34170947

thanks for leaving, the thread just got better without you.

>>34170392
Muh gerber evo, love that knife, I just wish I could keep track of one for longer than a year, good thing they're cheap

>>34170939
I posted it as a joke - I have no idea how or why people carry like this. I presume he'd wear a jacket over it

>>34170123
>>satisfies German fetish
Not a valid reason to select a gun for carry.
>(p229 with e2)
This is not a P228.
>>34170152
>Glock 20 not much larger than the p228 (grip length and thickness wise)
It's actually quite a bit larger than a P228, and a shitty choice for concealed-carry.
>pretty good trigger
Acceptable, but not "pretty good."
>>34170196
>beretta m9
Another shit choice for CONCEALED-carry.

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>>34170392

>>34170950
Shirt tucked or untucked?

>>34171013
When I carry to work (barely paid internship) probably untucked so I can take it off in the car. When I go out on weekend probably tucked under a dress shirt. I'll probably get a Mtac for my first holster and then maybe get a milt sparks later on

>>34171046
If you carry tucked without an over shirt, then you might consider a sub compact pistol

does /k/ have a suggested sub compact list?

>>34170672
Why not carry chambered half cock ?

>>34171107
Glock 26
Vp9sk
P99c
P320sc
RAMI
px4c
Fns c
M&p9c
Steyr C9

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>>34170407
>Milt Sparks Criterion
>leather
>trying to carry a fullsize in any position but appendix without printing

>>34170440
I wear an owb pancake holster on my belt and it sits tightenough it doesn't interfere with my kidney strap too bad

>>34170950
you have never handled a 1911 if you think that grip isn't thicc. 1911s are very thick guns and very heavy guns. plus they're single action only and the barrel is 5 inches long. all no goes for carry

>>34171281
pretty good list, would add p30sk and p2000sk

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>>34171760
Lol nope

>Slide is thin as fuck .9 inches bby
>sao means god tier trigger
>safety is very easy to depress once you clear leather, especially since my thumb naturally rests on it
>grip is thick when you put thick grips on it. Vz makes some nice thin ones

>>34171760
Also, thanks I'll add those two hks (probably put both in a single square). I'll probably create the chart tonight

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>>34170103
>small of back carry
Enjoy your broken spinal cord when someone pushes you over. Seriously. Do not do this. Do not even consider it as an option.

>Outside the waistband
Safariland ALS. There is no other option. I worked as a patrol officer for 12 years and went through nearly every fucking holster on the market until I discovered the perfection that is the Safariland ALS.

>Inside the waistband
I personally prefer PJ holsters, but just about any reputable kydex IWB holster will do you just fine

>ankle
Don't ankle carry unless it's a backup gun, I have yet to find and ankle holster that doesn't suck, but Galco suck the least

>shoulder
I have never shoulder carried, but it is a good carry system, it just doesn't fit my attire. I can't recommend anything.

>leather
Kill yourself grandpa, but if you insist on wearing a nice leather holster to a formal occasion to match your fedora, Andrews Custom Leather makes beautiful and functional pieces in many varieties from regular and exotic hides

>>34171281
M&P9c but no Glock 19 wut?

>>34171760
>1911 is less than 1 inch thick.
>barrel length on the ACP is 3.5 inches you dufus.
stop posting in /k/ nogunz faggot.

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>>34171760
>trying to carry a fullsize in any position but appendix without printing
I carry a P30SK at my 3.5 and that's the best possible position for concealment on my body, but it still prints ever so slightly.

>>34170254
I stopped carrying when I moved out of california

Moved across the country and don't carry anymore

I had some training in this state and wanted to get the permit but haven't done in 2 years

>>34170123
>you gonna carry that weight
just remember, anything heavy like that you'll have to lug around for hours at a time. Which is fine if you have the right set up and dont mind it, but it can get old fast
Ii got a glock 19 carried at 4 '0 clock. Its nothing special but it work. My comfort zone for carry is around my right ass cheek
>enough room to use my pockets
>still can draw comfortably
>no risk of my hip/gun hitting something
glocks might be boring but consider them, or a glock clone. Im serious

I started carrying with a 5.11 tactical fanny pack while running and biking. It feels pretty comfortable, and I can fit a phone and M&P Shield in there without too much bulk, which is great since I wear pretty much spandex with gym shorts while working out.

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>>34170123
>>34170196
ergonomics, comfort and aesthetics are fine, but keep in mind youre going to have this thing in a holster 99% of the time. You wont be walking around with it in your hand to appreciate all those things, and if you have to use it it'll (hopefully) be quick. So while those things are important, save the snowflake guns for the range. Go polymer, go simple and if you still want to go german there are plenty of options of walther, other sigs or HK

>>34171940
if you have any experience with tools, you might want to consider one of the 80% kits from the glock store. i got one for my cousin and he likes it.

>>34171899
>How to spot newfags

>>34170219
>how large and heavy these guns are to wear all day
>I carry a 2.5lb revolver around the house
>you are a vagina

>>34171871
I figured the glock 19 was more compact and the m&p9c was more subcompact

I might have to check out the specs.
Generally anything at or under 4.5 inches tall with 3.5 inch barrel is SC

>>34171899
Agreed but I have yet to read up on a 3.5" 1911 that didn't have issues. Best just to go with 4.25 with maybe an officer grip frame.

>>34171869
I generally agree but do not understand why you would want someone to kill themselves because they like leather. Shits comfy and leaves really good looking wear marks rather than the scratches you get with kydex. For practical purposes hybrids are the way to go though

Op here - I'm probably going to go DW Valor in stainless. If I can't carry it I still wouldn't mind having it as a range gun and I'd purchase a CCO as well. Buds has them for 1500 (pretty good for what it is IMO)

>>34171954
Fannypacks are the shit for excercise, and in workout clothes they don't stick out too bad. Shield is a good choice

>>34171973
I like your taste, I even kind of like the 5.7 you have.

You're probably right, but if I find the Dan Wesson to be too much to carry, I really wouldn't mind keeping it for the range. I love the heinie sights that it comes with.

>inb4 flamed for low capacity
I feel comfortable with 8+1 of fuddy five, not to mention back up magazines are really very thin

>>34170254
>crime will never happen to me
it always can anon, but I get how you feel. I downgraded from a glock 17 to a .380 colt mustang just because I felt so off without a gun on my hip

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>>34171997
Because leather needs to be cared for(and you wont), and wears out quickly. Also, this happens
If you're concerned about your carry piece having wear on it you don't deserve to carry.

>>34171046
Get an LCP and a desantis summer heat leather holster.
I keep it AIWB all day, forget it is there sometimes, which can be a problem when I have to hit the shitter.
I don't carry at work tho, it aint worth loosing my first job that is worth a damn. Finally paying down my meme education loan.

>>34171997
cop or not, guys a tacticool fag. Plastic is plastic, cloth is cheapshit.

Leather doesn't crack. Leather doesn't rip.

>>34172048
Colt mustangs are really cute, much nicer than the p238 IMO

How do you like yours? Do you find the small safety hard to disengage?

>>34172060
Why would you have a leather holster that thin?

Oh yeah, you're concealfags.

>carrypiece wear
>literally gouge marks in a hundreds of dollars point of pride

Uh, no thanks, dude. My bluing is worn as fuck, and it looks just fine because it doesn't look like I went at it with steel wool.

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>>34170468
>>34170589

You can get a reproduction M7/M9 holster for $30, I got mine for $25 on sale from sportsmans guide - item 141927-000-000. It's made in the USA and the leather is decent quality. I bought it and modified it to fit my M69, but it's made for 1911s.

>>34172061
Carrying at work is certainly not worth the risk

Good on you with the LCP, but with the way i shoot those tiny 380s, I wouldn't feel comfortable if real shit ever went down.
>that being said it would probably do the job

>>34172064
Yeah I see the advantages of kydex, but a quality leather holster will do you well for a long time (at least from what I've read/ learned from my dad)

>>34172089
That's pretty cool anon, thanks for the tip

How is your Model 69? I've always liked classic looking pachmayr grips

>>34172096
It'll outlast you if you take care of it, and you can give it to your son or whatever.

>>34172096
Well, there's the LC9. Almost the same.

>>34172060
Leather holster makers worth a damn reinforce the trigger/trigger guard pocket nowadays.
I'm as hairy as a street-shitter and sweaty as a rapist yet my desantis holsters for my LCP and LC9 (The old hammer fired one chock full-o-safties) have been going strong for years now.
One or the other, every day 8-12hrs. I seldom carry in other holsters or with other guns so it ain't that they are put on hold.

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>>34170103
Steyr M9-A1 in an Outlaw Holsters holster

>>34170103
does shoulder carrying a glock 20 sound okay?

>>34171997
As a skellington who's carried 1911s(cmmndr) around a bit, even hiking, let me tell you that it frankly isn't that bad. A mid to full size handgun is never going to be effortless to carry all day regardless of if it's a g19 or a 1911. That's what sub compacts and snubbies are for. With a good belt and holster you'll be just fine.

oh and FWIW guns just between SC and compact like the M&P9c are the most underrated CCW guns out there imo. With a flat base plate you get a gun that conceals just as well(functionally atleast) as a subcompact, add on an aredondo mag extension and you've got a full grip and a gun that has almost the exact same capacity and concealability as a compact. An m&P9c was my first handgun and after selling it off years ago I don't think ive ever had a gun that was quite as utilitarian as it was, and that's including a g19.

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>>34171901

Why not the Microstream rather than the Stylus? You save considerable weight & portability with barely any loss of light.

>>34170314
Get your hands on a cheetah :3

>>34172154
Nice - I've never shot one but I really like the ayylmao aesthetics. Nice minimalist holster as well.
>>34172162
The problem with shoulder holsters and fairly long guns like the glock 20 is that the draw is pretty slow.
>>34172164
Thanks - I see a lot of people on the internet are able to carry them everyday just fine - I think I'm going to go through with it.
The m&p9c is in my opinion the perfect combination of size and capacity. Small enough to be very concealable IWB, but still offering quite a bit of capacity. Better than the glock 26 in my limited opinion

>>34172227
any other recommendations? I'm pretty set on the glock, other carry styles that would work better?

>>34170103
I carry because my local sheriff told me that it is everyone's duty to carry. Police show up to late, and it is law abiding citizens duty to be the real first responders.
I carry all the time
I carry different guns depending on where I am and what I am doing.
I usually cary on my hip with an IWB kydex holster
If I am wearing a t-shirt, or something more likely to print, I use a neoprene IWB holster
occasionally I use an ankle holster

>>34172164
Have you ever visited 1911 forums? I was checking it out while learning more about 1911s as carry pistols and I have to say the community that posts there are very knowledgeable, and not too fuddy all things considered

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>>34172107
I like the way they look as well, but I've got to say that the OEM rubber grips are much more comfortable. Those Pachmayr's actually leave the steel backstrap of the frame visible, meaning when you shoot some hot/heavy .44 mag you get mostly steel and wood pressing into your hand. The shape of the backstrap is not ideal for handling recoil, but the front of the grip definitely helps and probably cancels that out. It'd be better if the ass end of the grip flared out further, but this shape makes it a little bit smaller overall. With that being said, I love the classic look enough to grin and bear it when shooting buffalo bore. I ended up putting rubberized grip tape over the backstrap [shown in pic], but I cant really tell if it makes any difference.

I've shot a lot of shit through that gun. When I first bought it I wanted to run it dirty for as long as I could to see if it would fail. I put enough shitty, dirty ass .44 spc cowboy loads through it to produce a 30-40 pound trigger pull (cyl would barely rotate from carbon buildup), but the gun functioned fine. I ended up cleaning it because its no fun when your DA pull is that heavy. SA still functioned fine with a crisp ass <5 lb trigger (I dont actually know what it is, but its light).

Lighter .44spc loads are not accurate at all in this gun, but any full power .44 mag load in the 240-270gr range is fucking spot on.

It's a great gun and its relatively lightweight for a .44 mag. Makes for a good hiking gun.

>>34172236
OP here, from other people's experience on the forums a kydex holster appendix style with a larger than usual tshirt seems the way to go. Probably would work if you're chubby.

Here's a video showing full size glock carry can be done

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sz41ZsV3bDw

>>34172096
Here's a shot of the stitching that I modified to allow the deeper trigger guard to fit. I also moved the retention strap higher by about 5/8". It's still strong enough - I used carpet thread and cannot even tear it by hand.

>>34172280
shit, I'm pretty fit, and I'm on a cut right now

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>>34170103
>6'0" lanklet in deep blue state, live & work in a welfare hive
>S&W MP Shield 9mm Performance Edition
>4:30 carry with some mediocre offbrand leather holster

Admittedly my first firearm but I've had to go all of this alone. My friends are all fucking normies and wouldn't come along to take the training class/background check/fingerprinting required to carry here.

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>>34172291
forgot pic

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>>34172260
I know it's the wood that makes it good but you might like to try out pachmayr decellerators - they're 26$ but from what I've gathered you need to also buy a grip screw.

Nice write up - I'd like to get one if I ever got into reloading

>>34172296
Fuck I'm turning back into skinny fat this summer
There was a gym on campus and I was lifting 4x a week. I've gone maybe 4 times this summer
What are your stats?

>>34172236
You may want to consider a manual safety as it's your first carry gun. You're going to be practicing your draw dozens of times a month, hundreds of times a year, and maybe drawing in anger once if you're unlucky. Personally I like the extra layer of security.

>>34172325
in terms of lifts or my size?

>>34172327
Thats some unpopular though frankly sage advice. I'd definitely recommend a pistol with a safety that's very easy to disengage. A lot of manufacturers add safeties as an afterthought, they're both stiff and small

>>34172327
is there a manual safety mod for glawks?

>>34172065
I love it, I was going to get the p238 but it was too tiny for me, I am surprised at how popular they are actually. And no, at least not harder then your average pocket pistol

>>34172352
Either

I've been doing my own chestbrah variation of 5x5. These were my stats the week before finals
For reps:
Bench 240
Overhead press 145 (my weakest lift)
Squat 295
DL 295
Bent over row 145

I think I'm going to go more volume my next bulking cycle, I always end up surprising people at my gym because my numbers/form are not represented by muscles (save for my pecs)

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>>34170103

Hardshell, kydex or good polymer, AIWB.

>>34170219
Where's your extra mag? Please tell me you carry one.

>>34172391
Bench: 185
Squat: 260
DL: 245
I'm 5'11", 175 rn and started cutting at 195 and still dropping, trying to get to 165

>>34172435
Forgot to add
6'0
195 (gained 5 pounds already REEEE)

Nice numbers negro, why are you cutting so hard ? Impressed with dedication though

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>>34172426
16 rounds of 9mm is bretty gud on its own bby
>>34172411
I always admired your edc

>>34172459
was a varsity wrestler in high school and a regional contender until I got injured and thrown out of the team for not wrestling on an injured arm, had to get surgery, was a lazy shit for a year or so after and I felt like getting fit again, so here I am

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>>34172313
Those do look like a solid upgrade over the OEM grips, my main gripe with them was that they weren't meaty enough on the front side, like they were made for smaller hands.

>>34170103
On the actual topic here, I carry an XDS 9mm every day and have been doing so for about 3 years. Depending on what I wear it either goes into a Haley INCOG (dickdraw) or an ayylmao cloak tuck 3.0 @ 3:30. Both holsters are great. I think the cloak tuck 3 is the best holster for your money - super comfortable and highly configurable for around $30. You just need to be sure to use purple or blue locktite on the rentention screws.

The INCOG is top-tier for appendix carry, but would be better if it was less bulky. I think there could be about a 1/4" thickness savings if the aluminum protrusion (shown at bottom of pic) was shorter, and I'm not sure that the extra pant retention that it gives you actually helps if your pants are on tight. I haven't modified mine in any way and it's served me well for about 3 years now.

>>34172327
On safety:
The XDS has a grip safety and I think its great. Some carry accidents occur when the person re-holsters their gun. With a grip safety its impossible to blow your dick off as long as you are re-holstering correctly.
>press check (thumb on slide
>grip safety is now engaged
>no accidental trigger pulls
>dick stays attached or thighs and ass remain unpenetrated

The XDS is a great compact carry gun with a nice trigger and short reset, but dont buy one. Fuck Springfield Armory.

As others have stated, your choice of belt is extremely important. I went about a year and a half before I got a belt built for carry, and waiting that long was a mistake.

>>34172480
I used to wrestle about myself freshman and sophomore year, I used to get my ass kicked every day by this kid named nick reenan - ended up being #1 in his weightclass in all of Texas before moving to Pennsylvania.

>>34172365
Hells no. Only striker fired on the market with an acceptable manual safety is the gen one M&Ps(iirc), but the safeties frankly are meh tier on them for a number of reasons. Although XDs do have a grip safety but frankly those just aren't really my thing.

This, light strike issues, and personal preference are why i prefer hammer fired guns. Maybe give CZ, GP, or lionheart a look. Sphinxes are nice but pricey new. If you don't mind a slide mounted safety then berretta 92 compacts and S&W gen 3s are good to go.

>>34172541
Oh yea and H&K has some bretty gud safety havvin hammer fireds. Be warned that there slide release levers tend to be overly large(imo)

>>34172514
It's too bad about Springfield armory, i used to love to shoot my dads trp. Certainly a lot of 1911 for the money. I used to do some IDPA competitions with it, he even offered it to me for my upcoming birthday, but I want to purchase with my own money for my first handgun.

That incog might be something I have to check out thanks anon

>>34172046
>filename
>spaghetti
>your powerlevel

>>34172541
When I first started carrying I would only carry with a manual safety, and I'd practice the fuck out of my draw and safety disengagement. Nowadays I think they're burdensome, and as long as you're competent you can do better without them.

If you do carry without a manual safety, only use kydex holsters. If you're removing your gun from your pants (end of night or whatever), just remote the entire holster with the gun (this is where holsters with only one belt clip come in handy). When reholstering, lift your shirt high, maybe even higher than you need to. Visually check the holster for obstructions and safely index your trigger finger. People should be doing this anyway.

Thinking that you might blow your dick off is a pretty scary feeling though. It takes time, practice, and confidence to get over.

>>34172577
Did you ever put over 200 rounds through the TRP without cleaning? Experience any jams? The XDS is the only SA gun I've had good luck with. My latest piece of shit is a finicky as fuck SA M1A that groups a random as fuck 12 MOA. I'm in the middle of bedding the bitch and its such a fucking blackhole of time and money. I really want to love that gun, but in it's current state I cant.
Done:
>replace ejector
>spend hundreds on decent optic mount
>free float upper handguard
>open up front ferrule NM style
>shim front band/gas cyl
>replace gas piston
>replace spring guide rod
>replace synthetic stock with birch
>remove deep ass machining grooves on action legs
To do:
>glass bed it
>lap barrel

Already trimmed the metal stock liner and clearanced and routed out the wood, just have to clay the action and apply the bedding compound. To lap I'm using Tubb's final finish the next time I take it out to the range.

Seriously, fuck Springfield. I bought that piece of shit before we knew they fucked up and I'm still fucking working on it.

>>34172718
>When reholstering
I forgot to finish that off with press check your slide to ensure you stay in battery while reholstering, and then holster your gun.

Looks like I might just blow my dick off afterall.

>>34172693
No idea what you're talking about

>>34172718
That sounds awful. Sorry to hear you're having so much trouble - I regularly put 150 rounds through the trp per range trip, but never 200. I'm pretty religious about cleaning when I come back home, but I never experienced a hang up. I've handled and shot ed browns and my buddies nighthawk and honestly the TRP felt and performed just as well. I'm sure some of the autistic shit some 1911 owners obsess over aren't as nice, a few weeks ago I'd heartily recommend it.

Have you thought about taking it back to Springfield?

>>34172736
Completely agree with you're previous post about being slightly quicker without a safety and one technically not being necessary if you properly observe all the rules of safety.

Frankly your second post is exactly why i prefer them still. Im a bit of the forgetful type and as muscle memory and liking the safety lever for added leverage takes care of remembering to flick it off i like the idea of a little something to stand in the way of me accidentally hurting myself if i have a second of unbridled stupidity.

It's also kinda nice that some safeties will keep your slide in battery for you when holstering. Had a one or two times with looser striker fired guns(well broken in) where tight holsters managed to boop the slide slightly out of battery. Think that's kinda neither here nor there though, you should always try to be meticulous with your piece and not noticing an OOB situation is pretty high up on the stupid list.

>>34170336
Wrong. Wrong.
Charliemurphy.jpeg

>>34172764
>filename

>>34172810
Filename is just a bunch of numbers

>>34172764
>take it back
Nah. The best they can make an M1A do is not good enough for me unless I were to get extremely lucky.

>>34172776
Yeah, I dont ever forget to press check when actually performing, its ingrained in me. Just forgot to mention it. I do think, however, that that could change when you add stress and adrenaline. I cleared my house once with my AR in a high stress situation and accidentally dropped my mag because I was being straight up stupid and trying to hold the rifle in a... non-threatening manner... which makes no fucking sense. I thought someone was in my house and my dog flipped the fuck out immediately afterward, but she was just queuing off my heightened state, and I queued off hers.

I dont really drill with my AR like I do with my carry gun, but I was behaving in an overall stupid matter. I see both sides of the coin, and I see myself being more likely to forget to trip the safety over shooting myself.

>>34170426

Hill People Gear kit bag--The original pattern ones fit a full size in them with more space for mags and other stuff. could also get a slightly smaller one and try it.

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>>34172473
thx, nothing to admire really but I hope it INSPIRES

>>34170639
>CIVIC NATIONALISM IS FUCKIN BASED MY FELLOW PEDE

I honesty hate you a lot. I respect that you carry a firearm, but drop that stupid shit. Our government hates us because we are free men. Localism or die.

>>34173040
Just about 4 hours too late bby

>>34170672
Okay nick cage

>>34170392

Autistic and gay phone case.
Knife is so so
Gun looks like it's never been used
some weird pouch.

Your sir
are a faggot

>>34170706
Isn't there dicks to suck somewhere?

>>34170672
Why do you carry half cock with nothing in the pipe?

People like you are why I drink.

>>34171152
>>34173379
Tokarevs have no safety and a VERY light trigger. If its in got a round in the chamber and the hammer cocked, it will easily fire just with a jostle. Its pretty easy to cock from half cock, in fact while removing it after a day of carry once ive pulled it out to find the hammer dropped, meaning it cocked and dryfired without my knowledge, and the holster even covers the trigger pretty well. I wear a jacket over it so i guess it caught on it at some point. Wouldve ND'd into my ass if it had a round in the chamber.

It's also pretty easy to rack the slide accidentally, as I mentioned the big sights catch on everything, including garments.

>>34170893
never. im keeping the meme alive.

>>34170152
I've got a G20 and I couldn't imagine CC'ing it. It's a full size gun by any definition.

>>34172459
Ron?

>>34172459
Meant for >>34172514

>>34173601
I'm a manlet and have no problem doing so.

>>34170239
Mirin' dem height weight stats from years of weightlifting.

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XDS 9mm with 147gr HSTs in a Crossbreed minituck

>>34172205
85f cheetah is a great da/sa

>>34170239
Go with the ed brown if money isn't a problem, I carry a full size 1911 inside the waistband all day, I've found that it prints less than my glock. I also lift so the larger upper body may makes your shirt hang a bit further out...just my 2 cents

>>34174633
Thanks, I think I'm actually going to go with a Dan Wesson Valor and blow the rest of the cash on holsters, belts, and plenty o fuddy five

>>34174646
I've never shot a Dan Wesson, so I can't comment on the gun, I switch between a kimber TL RL II, and a les Baer thunder ranch...ignore all the fuddy five hate you'll hear, I carry what I hit with the best, and that's 45 from a 1911 platform

>>34174688
>les baer
Nice - they've got some of the prettiest slide serrations I've ever seen on a handgun

And I'm definitely comfortable 8+1 of 45.
Not to mention spare mags are incredibly easy to carry

>>34172243
Good man.

>>34174813
Wow did you just assume his fucking gender?

Thats not okay sweetie

>>34173040
What if you died, an-commie?

>>34174824
Oh I'm sure he's still patrolling this thread waiting to see if someone replies

Literally FUCK YOUR OWN FACE

>>34174817
It's worse than you think, I was using man as a gender neutral term a la "mankind" which basically denies that females have an identity at all!

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>>34174837
>he literally was and he just told me to fuck my own face
>I just wanted to post shit
>not talk shit
>shitposting

>>34174839
I have sentenced you to 2 hours of interracial cuckold porn so that you may remember your place. Try not to masturbate too loudly drumpfkin

>>34174844
>he doesn't cum in the melting pot

>>34174841
Bing a hat are you doing here I though I told you to go fuck your own face

>BING POW BOOM

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>>34170103
Go with a Walther PPS M2. They're running a $100 mail-in rebate on their line through September. Great gun with some decent options for holsters.


https://www.gunbuyer.com/walther-pps-m2-black-9mm-3-2-2805961-wal2805961-gb.html

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waistband carry :^)

Personally i carry a 15 inch black dildo with a 4 inch radius and i use your mothers ass to ensure it has a tight fit i mainly use the big one on my larger opponents but i wont hesitate to use my smaller 4 inch i carry in her cleavage.

>>34174866
Isn't that the pistol they used to exterminate all of those innocent Native Americans? I read that the buttstock of the pistol was shaped that way to club young navajo during the trail of tears

>>34174871
What kind of sights are you running on your dildo platform?
Me personally, it's XS big dots or nothing. No need for long range ass ramming and that big dot will add just that extra bit of stimulation that often times decides wether or not you get out of there alive. Friendly reminder not to be a cuck, reload your own lube my friends - the savings are tremendous

Is baddragon just a meme? Redpill me anon

>>34174874
And that is how you know it works, anon.

>>34172577
I understand how you feel, but when you're 60 and you pass YOUR first firearm to your son you're going to want it to be your dad's... don't be a faggot. Pay HIM for the gun if you really want no free rides.

>>34174921
Or if you just give it to him when he's of age, I guess you'd be a lot younger. Whatever.

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>>34170103
>Why you carry
There are evil people in the world, and it’s my job as a man, citizen and Christian to do my part to protect innocents from them

>What holster
Got an Aliengear as a gift, but it doesn’t work too well with the pants I wear most days. So I just draw my belt tight and put the gun in at about 5 o’clock. Works shockingly well.

Pic related is my carry piece.

>>34170363
Stay in /arg/ where you belong.

>>34170609
>flip phone
>2017
You'll look like you live under a rock or you're a poorfag.

>>34173040
JEFFERSONIAN ANARCHISM

>>34176808
That's why I've a slide phone. I also have decided to be friends with people because they had a flip phone. It has not backfired yet. Lets me know that they're priorities are in the right place, ya know?

>>34179141
*their
Man, I'm tired.

>>34170103
I'm only 18 so I have to see for open carry. Better than no carry I guess. I'll probably get the Canik TP9SF Elite for concealed. I love my SF and would gladly buy from Canik again.
>Inb4 turkshit

>>34171973
Jelly af! literally most of my dream pistols you own...

>>34172243
A co-operation of law keeping and justice. Beautiful. Europe can and must learn from you guys.

100% serious.

>>34171871
Not a subcompact

>>34172243
What state are you in?

So whats a good 10mm to carry that isnt a glock 29?

>>34179648
Depends if you want to carry fullsize.

Glock 20 pretty much your best option

>>34179712
Any other good subcompact 10mm?

>>34179720
Not that I know of

>>34179141
Then how will you shitpost on the go?

>>34179720
S&W 1076

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A gun one actually can CC every day even when it's hot in business slacks.

Kahr CM-9 in the usual Desantis pocket holster.

>>34180341
The mobilefag menace, everybody

>>34170238
Those would be the M11b and M11A1, which aren't P228s, just P228 size. Don't have the same slide material or manufacturing method and the P228 doesn't have the stupid nsn

>>34170238
>implying new all steel sigs dont feel/look like crap too
>implying the 2022 wasn't at least relatively lightweight and appropriately priced.