Who was the worst General you can come up with?

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>>34169944
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/arg/ is the worst general

>>34169944
Robert Neville, Luigi Cadorna, Enver Pascha, Conrad Von Hotzendorff, Adolf Hitler (he sucked, deal with it)most of the Union army generals from roughly 1861-1863

>>34169978
Yeah the Italians suck at fighting after the Roman Empire, World War Two was even Worse for them.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Hughes

Cheating a bit since im not sure he was promoted to general before minister of war

Charles Lee

>>34170011
I dont think Hitler was ever a general

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A brilliant politician who thought that qualified him to direct armies. It didn't.

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>>34170005
The writing general and anime general are the worst.

At least arg owns guns.

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>>34169978
>"IT'S OVER LUIGI, I HAVE THE HIGH GROUND"

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>>34169944
McClellan wasn't bad when he was actually in combat and did a good job of turning the Union Army in to something respectable, he just lacked the will to use his superior numbers.

Now when we're talking about shitty Civil War generals.......

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Survived on pure luck... until he didn't.

>>34170069
but unlike arfags, the other have the decency to stay in their designated dunce corners

>>34169978
Could someone more talented than me make a "you are like a little baby, watch this" meme with Cadorna please?

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Can admirals get in on this? Pic related let a force of four battleships, eight cruisers, and eleven destroyers get its ass kicked by one Fletcher-class destroyer and - get this - a Butler-class destroyer escort.

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>>34170028
>From Corporal to Fuhrer in 1 Easy Step: An Idiots Guide to Fascism! Written by: Adolf Hitler

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Mikhail Tukhachevsky, got BTFO'd by Poland in the Russo-Polish war of 1920

>>34170098
>Survived on pure luck... until he didn't.
Memes.

"I regarded the outrages that have been committed lately as not the work of a tribe, but of small and irresponsible parties of young men, who are eager for war. My opinion is, that we are not yet justified in declaring war."

Sherman, til the whole kill civilians to the sea march.

Joseph Stalin, kill all your officers, and a large number of civillians, in the 20's and 30's, get ass kicked by Finland in '39/40, loose 27+million people in WW2, need Lend lease aid, all as an equally direct result.

>>34170216
Nice
Meme

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>>34170098
Literally one of the Union's most talented cavalry officers.

>>34170094
The whiskey named after him sucks major dick too.

>>34170081
you beat me too it

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>>34169944
>Our plan is to stage a withdraw to a peninsula.
>Better put all of our supplies near the beaches.
>And cluster our aircraft together in the open.

If he had been in the Red Army MacArthur would have been shot for how he handled the Philippines.

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>>34169944

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>>34170094
But you can't hate on those sideburns. That's what allowed the Union to win the Civil War

>>34170094
He was a fine supply officer and engineer, leading men, not so much.

>>34170094
McClellan couldn't keep up his Espri Du Corps he basically just bent over to the Confederates. He simply didn't do anything and action is what matters in war if he doesn't engage he doesn't control the tempo of the movements of his army and he wasn't initiated movement that would lead to victory. in boxing terms he was always off balance waiting to get punched.

>>34171526
He still managed to hold out for a while before being over run. It could be seen as a purely defensive move.

>>34171526
Ya, he is super fucking overrated.

>>34169944
Any and all Russian generals

>>34172763
Yeah the only strategy for them is to over run the enemy with zero regard for lives of there troops.

>>34170140
I wish Yamato and Musashi were together with a more capable and daring Admiral. They would have been destroyed, but it would have been a glorious end.

>>34169944

Mac was actually a great logistics general. The army of the potamac was in great shape under his command.

He just couldn't into fighting.

>>34171526
He underestimated the Japanese just like every other US commander up till that point.

>>34172806
He was not good for the job he was given, he doesn't seem interested in fighting like he didn't want be there.

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>>34170140
If we're doing Admirals then there is no contest.
>Commander of the Russian Second Pacific Squadron that got its ass handed to it by fishing boats, malaria, snakes, and then the Japanese at Tsushima

>>34172767
More like:
>1) Throw away millions of Russian lives to slow the enemy down.
>2) Wait for winter
>3) ???
>4) Profit!

>>34172841
He also knew he was at war. General Short and Admiral Kimmel got removed from command and demoted for their "failures" at Pearl Harbor and being unprepared for a surprise attack, yet MacArthur got off scot-free even though he was alerted to incoming attack and did almost nothing to prepare.

>>34172767
>It is in vain that you think that victory can be achieved by using "people's meat." Victory is achieved through the art of combat. War is waged with skill, not with people's lives.
Order of G. K. Zhukov to I. G. Zakharkin on 7 March 1942
>>34172902
The wehrmacht was so stupid they didn't even know russia has cold winters.

>>34172972
No they didn't plan to fight in Russia during winter because blitzkrieg is about charging fast and not being weighted dow by too much gear. The charges at stalingrad begs to differ and the gulags are an example of the soviets value of human life.

>>34172841
I think I have a pretty good grasp on history but can you expand why this was?
The Russian Japan war showed Japan was no joke, and that was 30 years before, they were trashing China and we knew they were hi tech and useful. Why didn't we see Japan as a serious player?

>>34173340
Isolationism and the general belief that anything oriental was weaksauce compared to AMERICA STRONK.

>>34172013
That's such bullshit. I want a Beretta 93.

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>>34169978
>Is that Luigi "Give me back my legions!" Cadorna?

>>34170011
>Conrad Von Hotzendorff
This and Helmuth von Moltke.

General Elphinstone

>>34170094
I disagree with Burnside, he was a fully capable officer.
Unfortunately he found himself in a war fighting against extrordinary officers like Robert E. Lee, and simply couldn't adapt to that level.

He knew it too, as he refused command of the Army of the Potomac on several occasions. At Fredericksburg when he saw the bodies of the dead soldiers on the battlefield, he broke down in tears and announced that he would personally lead the Union Army's rearguard action during the retreat. This was talked down by his subordinates, but Burnside felt a strong guilt over the deaths of so many of his men, and tried to resign his commission later

I honestly just feel bad for the guy...

>>34170094
It's a shame too. He was nicknamed the Next Napolean before the civil war broke out.
Dude ended up constantly paralyzed by what he didn't know. Only ever took good action when he had what he thought was good intel, like at Antietam.

>>34172052
off-topic, but I'm assuming that's a well done edit? or did someone draw a comic of Joshua Graham drowning Caeser

>>34170140
To be fair, he'd been under air attack for 3 days straight. He was pretty fucking out of it from sleep deprivation by the time he bumped into Sprague's force.

>>34169978
Cadorna also had more of his own men executed than any other general in WWI. This included officers whose units "under performed". I'm honestly surprised he wasn't hanged after the war, or at least shot by one of the millions of people that despised him.

>>34172855
Isn't that basically what I wrote. mccellen was a good organizer. He should have been put in charge of the war dept.
But he was a shit field commander. He had little or no imagination or stomach for battle.

>>34173340
what >>34173392 said, but probably also partly because of racism

>>34173340
Some US leaders did. Teddy Roosevelt and Billy Mitchell both saw Japan as a major threat.
But a combination of racism (asians can't fight whites) and a general disinterest in war lead to the US dismissing the Japanese untill it was too late.

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>>34172879
In all fairness, none of what happened to the 2nd Pacific Squadron was Rozhestvenski's fault. The entire fuck-up could be squarely pinned on the Tsar and all those who gave the order to send the squadron to Tsushima. He did a remarkable job given the shitty circumstances handed too him.

Pic very much related.

Admittedly though, the Russian navy has a history of being fucking horrible. If anyone has the cap listing how they could only be roaches at navy warfare, that'd be much appreciated.

>>34174050
Some of it could be blamed on him. But the ultimate result at Tsushima would be entirely the same.
He threw some officers under the bus when the British wanted to know who was responsible for attacking the fishing ships, Rozhestvensky pointed the finger at his rivals.
He also purposely tried to evade his reinforcements because they were comprised of older ships.

Rozhestvensky did do his best but he also did some very dickish things.