What would the next gen M16 look like?

>>34158283
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vI5NPiicXjE
Pretty much 3 gun ready.

>>34158283
Same as last gen but they drop the quad rail for something better.

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>>34158283
>with 20" barrel
Something like the Dutch C7, maybe?

>>34158283
The same thing but with mlok

Keep the moaning to yourselves dipshit cheese grater shills

>muh proven cheese grater

Would free floated handguard be useful in a military rifle or is it just a civie/target concept?

>>34158411
A non freefloated handguard is more rugged design so you can make it out of lighter materials like plastic and it will still be strong because it relies on the strength of the barrel.

>>34158450
>i have no idea what a barrel nut is
>har har lets gibs ppl me expert advice

>>34158398
While it would be nice in theory everyone in the world has standardized on pic rails, and to soldiers/marines those little pic rails are just another thing to lose. It'd only work if we switched to direct mlok mounts, which probably won't happen.
>>34158411
It wouldn't hurt. You might as well if you're buying a whole new model of rifle. There is effectively no difference in durability between a free floated rail and a non floated rail.

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>>34158798
Look here nigger, which do you think is a more rugged design? Which do you think requires a thicker handguard to be able to handle the stresses a handguard is commonly subject to?

>>34158923
No difference in durability but weight. A free floated handguard can be made as durable as a non free floated handguard, to a certain point atleast, but it will just weigh more.

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>>34158318
C7 is a Canadian rifle, manufactured by Colt Canada.
The C7 is the 20" version, with the C8 as the carbine model. Interesting rifles but nothing really "next gen" about them.

The A2 barrel profile was designed to be stronger and less prone to overheating forward of the FSB, while keeping the original thickness throughout the rest of the barrel to facilitate use of the M203.

Would the hypothetical A5 Barrel profile be thicker all the way through, since the M203 can now be mounted to the rails underneath the handguard like the LMT version?

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>>34159086
barrel profile for referance

>>34158283
The m27 infantry automatic rifle is the pinnacle of the AR platform.

>>34159103
>the higher pressure part of the barrel is thinner than the lower pressure one

What the hell were they thinking?

>>34159154
Mounting grenade launchers, mostly.

>>34159154
They were thinking "We want this barrel to be stronger, but still need to be able to mount an M203 but rails won't be a thing for another decade."
I agree it's a crap design, and not trying to justify it.. But unlike a lot of people think there was a reason behind it.

>>34159086
>C7 is a Canadian rifle, manufactured by Colt Canada.
Yes, I meant the variant used by the Dutch, which is, as far as I am aware, unique.

>>34159190
>>34159185
Why can't the M203 be mounted on an A1 profile barrel?

>>34159185
>>34159190
the fuck are you on about? you dont mount grenade launchers forwards of the fsb on a 20 inch barrel.
its mounted to the part that stayed exactly the same.

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>>34159205
My mistake. Just looked it up, they do have a few unique upgrades over the C7.

"The upgrades include a nifty tan-colored bolted on rifle-length rail extension, tan-colored CAA Tactical buttstock, oversized magazine release, ambidextrous safety selector switch, freefloated lightweight profile barrels and Aimpoint scopes."
-http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2011/09/27/royal-netherlands-armys-nifty-c7c8-rifles/

>>34159226
>>34159246
The M203 can be mounted to A1 profile barrels just fine, which is why the rear portion of the barrel (the part the M203 mounts to) stayed the same.

>>34158924
Look up modern barrel nut designs like on Geissele rails. They extend the barrel nut to be several inches longer than normal, and have super tight tolerances so the aluminum handguard has an incredibly rigid structure to work off of, without placing all the force onto the barrel.

Especially if the handguard runs near the full length of the barrel, the rail will be what absorbs shock when the rifle is dropped, not the barrel. So minor dings don't damage the most critical part of the rifle.

There is a reason modern design is trending away from non-FF handguards.

>>34159308
Poorfag stock, special snowflake multi piece handguard. Barf. Someone please tell the Dutch how to build guns.

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>>34158924
>this is alien technology for the subhuman neckbeard

Hahahahahahahhahahahahaahaha
Muh proven mil spec gear guis

>>34158283
There will be no new M16. The Marines are switching to the M4.

>>34158924
Holy shit youre fucking stupid.

>>34158798
>making fun of someone whos right for not knowing what they are talking about
>not knowing what you're talking about

Plz leave.

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>>34158924

>>34158924
Non military fags have no idea how much service rifles get thrown droped and beaten. Hell we club rubber dummies with it in USMC boot camp.

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>>34159154
The real reason is they were led to believe Marines were using the barrels to pry open stuff.

Here is what the current M4A1 barrel looks like.

>>34159870
Yeah, this is meant to be a hypothetical following the aesthetics and improvements made previously.

>>34159963
>samefagging this hard

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>>34159963
>i'm definitely not the guy that doesn't know how drop in rails/handguards work
>i'm definitely not the guy that can't point out what a barrel nut is
>i'm definitely not the guy that doesn't know that drop in rails are held together by a .750 handguard cap

lmfao what a dipshit loser you are

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Would a Monolithic upper be a viable solution?

>>34159408
Exactly a free float handguard requires an incredibly rigid structure when a non freefloat handguard can just literally be thin fucking plastic.

>>34159838
>>34160026
What the fuck are you two trying to say here? I'm in no way trying to say that free floated handguards can't be made rigid and strong just that equally rigid and strong non freefloated handguards would weigh significantly less.

>>34162386
I like this, but maybe instead of quad rail, M-LOK with covers?

Probably a free-float rail system with quick change barrel, ambi controls, better charging handle and maybe a better trigger.

>>34158283

The upper receiver would have a rail and the barrel would have a full length quad rail and back up sights and an acog or other optic. Like pic related.

Magazines would have an anti tilt follower too.

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>>34162834

Forgot pic

>>34162739
>equally rigid and strong non freefloated handguards would weigh significantly less

Except that non free floated is held together by a tight delta ring and a hand guard cap stupid ass

a free float rail doesn't need to have the FSB gas block and therefore can utilize a low profile gas block. A carbine gas system for the ar15 means you're restricted to 7" drop in rails.

just stfu and get out

>>34158318
>Dutch get the new M320 for their C7's
>we still use the M203 with our C7's

I get if it aint broke don't fix it, but our's are falling apart.

I honestly don't know much about ARs but would adopting a new platform be a good or bad idea? I realize it would be expensive but I don't know many other pluses or minuses, just that the AR-15/M16 seem to do its job decently well from what I can see

>>34159154
>the chamber walls are visibly thicker on the A2
But yeah, the whole thing should be somewhat conical, thick at the back and narrow at the front. Maybe even straight past the FSB so it doesn't look too autistic with the handguards on.

>>34159154
Marines don't think, sadly.
>>34158924
Just like this poster doesn't think.

>>34162386
What's a monolithic upper?

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>>34158283

>>34159154
attempting to fix accuracy issues. It was believes that the barrels were warping under heat so a thicker barrel would absorb more heat. Turns out it wasn't a warping issues, it was a burr formed when drilling the gas block, yet we still have this retard barrel profile to this day

>>34165176
monolithic combines the upper receiver and the handguards/rail as a single piece. As opposed to a typical upper that has handguard/rails that attach to the barrel nut.

>>34158283
A bullpup