What are some of the oldest arms still in active service, or

I was gonna mention the Maxim but you got to it first.

K98 still being used today by extreme poorfags in the middle east.

>>34153330
Same goes for Mosins

A nugget maybe

>>34153312

OP what is that and who is using it?

The 1911

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>ywn have a jihadist MP44 gf

>>34153312
The U.S. Army was using an M2 Browning in 2015 and sent it in for overhaul. Turns out it was the 324th ever made, with over 90 years of service without an overhaul.

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>>34153399
Looks like a pair of M1910 Russian Maxim guns, used by separatists in Donbass.

My personal vote goes for the Martini-Henry, fuckers still turn up in Afghanistan and Pakistan.

>>34153399
most probably a Ukrainian militia guy, probably pro-gov. It appears to be two Maxims rigged together to a common trigger system + a reflex sight. God knows why they did that, but Maxims are plentiful in post-Soviet states, they were earmarked as state heritage and thus not legal to export.

>>34153399
Russian maxim guns.

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>>34153312

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>>34153434
Oh yeah, Brazilian Madsens are a pretty good candidate too.

Not a gun, but I remembered that there are some countries..(Sudan, i believe) still operating the MiG 17 as a frontline fighter

>>34153434
>Rainbow Siege Six introduces this meme br operator
>doesn't give BOPE their meme gun

fuckin jewbisoft

>>34153448
even in such shitholes, it ought to be cheaper to just use modern trainers. probably don't even have the funds to procure that.

>>34153423
>God knows why they did that,
Are you saying you don't want dual water cooled machine guns with an RDS in your post soviet hellscape of trench warfare and stalemate?

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>>34153448
>there are some countries..(Sudan, i believe) still operating the MiG 17 as a frontline fighter

Holy fucking kek. Africa is a wonderful place

>>34153448
>>34153468
To be fair all they need them for is to strafe and bomb a rebellion or islamist uprising every half decade.

>>34153463
I'm not saying I "don't want" that, I'm merely saying I'd not have thought to do so, lacking as I am in the peripheral slavocortex

>>34153479
>>34153468
>>34153454

Also, to be fair to Sudan, they also have a lot (for an African country) of Mig-29s, however they still have the MiG 17 as an active fighter.

American soldier captured a PPSh from terrorists and was kicking doors with it. Heard he got a kill but then ran out of ammo because he only had the one drum

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>>34153501
Yeah, that story makes the rounds regularly, but a PPSh isn't that old.

>>34153434
That fucking guy in shorts

Tribesmen from Afghanistan still make and use Black Powder arms for fighting. Today however, they're heirlooms due to their ornate nature, but are still shot.

>>34153486
>lacking as I am in the peripheral slavocortex
I am not a slav in any fashion and I've always wanted dual Maxims in a cupola mount each to 200 round belts. I never thought to rig a red dot up tho.
>>34153508
>a PPSh isn't that old.
Didn't they stop making them when the PPSh-43 came along? Did the Chinese make their own copies like every other Soviet weapon or were they just given old Soviet surplus?

>>34153312
Anyone still using M1919s?

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>>34153312

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>>34153312
Africa is fucking great.

>>34153577
>nigga dis rite hear
*produces 18th century smoothbore muzzleloader*
>is ma problem solver

>>34153594
I think that's a trap door or maybe a Snider. I can't really tell.

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>>34153546
Nope, they weren't discontinued until the end of the war. The Soviets then exported guns and designs to every communist country you can shake a stick at, including China, North Korea, North Vietnam, and Yugoslavia.

>>34153609
Nah, I think I see a frizzen on the side, it's a flintlock.

>>34153546
The USSR decided that canceling PPSh-41 production in favor of the PPS-43 was uneconomical so they kept both in production during the war.

In 1946, the Soviet Union canceled PPS-43 production due to an oversupply of submachine guns. The PPSh-41 followed suit a year later in 1947

Also, China did make a copy of the PPSh-41 designated the Type 50. The biggest difference between the Type 50 and the original PPSh-41 was that the Type 50 could only use the 35-round stick magazines.

>>34153617
>>34153623
So that PPSh is at least (let's say the pic was taken in 2007) 60 years old.

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>>34153434
>>34153446
I fucking love BOPE

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>>34153644
at least one of them is a /k/ommando

>>34153644
>5 operators with visible weapons
>6 different weapons

>>34153675
Which one and how do you know?

>>34153417
Holy shit.

>>34153644
>akimbo
the nerve of this man

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>>34153694
not one in any of the pictures, but i know because he's posted id here

>>34153743
You see José, when of dual wielding pistolas, tu can violate trigger discipline rule porque one cancels out the other

>>34153764
Oh ok, I thought there was something in the pic that I wasn't seeing.

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>>34153312
When my dad visited India in the 70s, he saw a rack of Martini-Henrys in a police station.

I doubt they see any use these days, but I bet they're in storage somewhere.

>>34153644
Is that fucking Dwayne Johnson?!

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Not super recent but Lancers were used up into WWI and Poland was the last military to retire them in 1936.

>>34153675
It's a dog, isn't it?

>>34153743
Looks like Sig P226 and Beretta 92.

>>34153764
No he was military police I think.

Not BOPE.

>>34153312
Only pre-1900 designs that I know of that still see use are the Maxim and the Mosin.

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Couple weeks ago in Libya a T-34/85 was photographed in combat.

>>34153312
A lot of the things we use date back to WWII
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBwlMfeECgM
To summarize:
>military has a tight budget due to corruption in gov't and lack of funding
>resort to refurbishing old AA guns into working condition
>cannibalize old LVTs for extra armor and parts
>refurbish and modify old grease guns from leftover stocks.

>>34153644
Being a BOPErator must be like living in an '80s action movie 24/7.

>>34153896
that's nuts. reminds me of the ukrainians who stole an IS-3 a few years ago. youtube related
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EyhRHdySJs

>>34153409
There was footage showing a fucking stockpile of STG's over in some middle eastern fuckhole.

I've heard they were welding them onto tanks and such as well.

>>34153896
We're living in a damn weird era right now, WWII in the middle east and 'Nam in the Philippines.

Wouldn't having to reload all these old and obsolete rounds make it not worth it? Or are they all rechambered for modern stuff?

>>34154125
Well for stuff like a Madsen or a PPSh-41, ammo can easily be acquired or made for those

>>34154045
Holy fuck you're right.

Imagine, a century from now, while the world superpowers have moved on to powered exoskeletons, drone/robot operators and electronic warfare......some third world shit somewhere will be replaying the Gulf War and ME invasion. I mean, it's inevitable, but it's mind boggling to think that someday our current gen stuff will be viewed the same way we view WW1 and WW2 era warfare

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>>34154168
>P90 & FiveseveN will be grandpa shit in your lifetime

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>>34154215
>People will view the m16/m4 like how we view nuggets in 60 years

>>34154228
Hasn't the M16/M4 been in service longer than any other service rifle before it? It was adopted in the 1960s and is still in service today, so that's 50 some years now.

>>34154417
It and the AK have been the longest serving modern rifles but there's stuff like the Brown Bess which was in service for over 200 years by the British

>>34153420
Wait, is the fucking spear a part of the issued kit?
That is some next-level, Zulu shit right there

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>>34153644
>When you unlock the akimbo perk

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sorry if its off-topic becuase i dont know what the weapon actually is

lee enfields are still being used in afghanistan.

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chechnya has some neat stuff
i at least know what this one is

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>>34153409
>>34154003

>>34155032
Oh that's bizarre, I don't think I've ever seen anything quite like it.

>>34153312
https://twitter.com/sashakots/status/870646058531127300

DONBASS DISCOVERED NEW AMUNITION WASTING DRONES.

ukies went shitape

https://twitter.com/sashakots/status/870646058531127300

>>34153567
Germany, Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Mars, Alpha Centauri

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>>34153312

She's no longer our flagship tho.

ex USS Atherton. Launched on '43.

>>34154215
>Gunpowder weapons will be absolutely fudd/fedora like singleshot flintlock blackpowder guns are today

>>34153312
Not sure if it counts but there were a lot of lee metfords and enfield "long toms" in afgan

>>34155032
Iirc from the article, its a homemade 20 gauge revolving shotgun

>>34153417
I read about that. I hope they retired it to a museum.

>>34153312
You still see Enfield Mk3s and Webleys show up in Pics of Pakistani Police

Finns and Estonians still runnin ancient Mosins as DMRs.

>>34153644
Lol that guy has the exact mini 14 I've got, I bet just by the looks of it it's even a 186 series

>>34154168
And you will be called Fudds

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The Uzi was developed in 1949 and is still very commonly seen in military and police work around the world.

I fucking love mine, it's a blast to shoot.

>>34155044
and nuggets

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>>34153679

Sweden still uses M1919's. I think they are M1919A6's rebuilt for 7.62 neato and mounted in CV90´s

>>34153330
Is it legal to kill a goatfucker and bring his K98 back as a trophy as a member of the military like some soldiers did with with WW1 and WW2 guns because I can see that being the only way for me to afford a MAUSER BRAND MAUSER

>>34154003
Syria, something like 5000 of them turned up in a stockpile one side or the other captured.

>>34153743

it his eco round

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>>34155044

My dad brought back a 1886 lebel made in 1887 from when he was in Afghanistan.

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>>34153594
>>34153577

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>>34153409
>>34154003
>>34155055
>>34156787

i have more reasons to kill them now, they have no taste

>>34159976
>they have no taste

coming from the guy who doesn't even operate unlike ISIS, who all have seen more combat than you ever will, so their opinion is vastly superior than yours on this topic.

>>34153312
Probably some single shot rifles from the 1800s in Africa and the Middle East.

Mosin-Nagants
some sand niggers still use Jezail rifles which are even older.

>>34159253
I've heard stories of troops bringing home "antiques" and often wondered how plausible they were.

>>34153492
Use what you got.

>>34153448
>>34153454
>>34153479
>>34153468

This was back in 1992-96 but the guy from SHTF school said in his commentary that during the Kosovo war they remember being bombed by Old Prop driven bombers.

Now you can make some guesses there as to which ones would still be left over from WW2 that could have been pulled out for that, given that it was a war these things are probably long gone by now.

But I still consider early 90s "modern", and they were using WW2 Bombers to blast the shit out of people in an era of missiles and jet fighters.

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>>34155079
>https://twitter.com/sashakots/status/870646058531127300

>Tfw tactical Chinese sky lanterns

>>34159900
> cant resist checking out the ebin screencap

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>>34159900
>>34160053

And posts one of my own given this was on the subject of 2A

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>>34160005
>>34153577

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ua131xJiMKU

fucking Mali

>>34160033

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonov_An-2

>During the Croatian War of Independence in 1991, a few old Antonov An-2 biplanes used for crop-spraying were converted by the Croatian Air Force to drop makeshift boiler bombs and were used in supply missions to the town of Vukovar and other besieged parts of Croatia.[13] The chief advantage for the An-2 was that they could take off and land in small or improvised airstrips. They were also used to drop supplies by parachute on isolated garrisons. At least one was shot down on 2 December 1991 over Vinkovci, eastern Slavonia, by Serbian SAM missiles, purportedly SA-6s.[14][15] Following the shootdown, the flights over Serbian lines ceased, due to the presence of TV guided SA-6. The previous radar guided AA systems were avoided by keeping the airplane's speed below 140 km/h, the speed of objects that radars were programmed to erase from the screen.

>>34156748
nope, all war trophies are property of the army now.

>>34159253
sometimes you can get a sign-off on antiques, much easier if you "buy" them

>>34156745
Yeah, used to be 6.5 but was rechambered, the onei n my CV90 was made in 1942, will be phased out in the coming years for FN Mags since we have a fuckton of those lying around.

>>34159992
Sorry, I really dont have respect for them, they wont live much longer (due to some things I know), and for other reasons I wont discuss I am probably quite abit more keen at "fighting" than they are. This is probably a discussion for /x/ though.

Some things come naturally.

My argument in their shit taste has to do with these fine weapons being used for this, in their filthy hands, when they should be using AKs which are likely more effective and cheaper. Not to mention the ammunition is everywhere.

STG44 is effective, but its also historical, which is why it makes me angry. Things like this should be in collector's hands.

>>34153789
The new fast and the furious movie is looking good.

>>34160216
Oh wait, is that the movie about the gun running the CIA was doing?

The carl gustav was designed in 1948 and except the new ones being designed with composite materials and being lighter they are basically still the same. Its not that old but its still being used by front line units and its still relevant.

There are older ones ofc but they have been mentioned. m2, b52, HMS Victory etc

>>34155032
>has a magazine and a cylinder

we borderlands now

>>34160208
How do you get cheaper than free, dude? They found an intermodal full of them in Gaddafi's arsenals.

Quit being a fucking dipshit, I'd fight for my country using an StG44 if I had to.

>>34160208

i am unable to tell if you're larping or not and that alone describes the lowly state of this board.

>>34160099
>The previous radar guided AA systems were avoided by keeping the airplane's speed below 140 km/h, the speed of objects that radars were programmed to erase from the screen.
lol that's fucking retard, there are several modern fighters with thrust vectoring that can stay below that speed. Its not like the screen will be full of birds if you set the speed at 80 km or something.

>>34160272
>lol that's fucking retard, there are several modern fighters with thrust vectoring that can stay below that speed.
I guess you should go back into the 1950s and 60s and tell them about that.

>>34160272
>modern fighters
>1991

>>34153420
OP pic is government forces not separatists.

>>34160146
>Yeah, used to be 6.5 but was rechambered, the onei n my CV90 was made in 1942, will be phased out in the coming years for FN Mags since we have a fuckton of those lying around.
Our had ''8×63mm'' inscribed on it so they had that caliber to back in the day.

Its just an issue with mounting the MAG in the vehicle, changing barrels etc. Not the fact that there isn't any machine guns around. Same reason Germany kept using the mg34 in their vehicles.

>>34160124
das bullshit man didn't know the us army is now going full jew

>>34160255
>Quit being a fucking dipshit, I'd fight to destroy my country for the benefit of globalists bankers using an StG44 if I had to.
ftfy

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>>34160255
>>34160353

> they're not fighting for a country though, last time I checked ISIS just kinda moves from country to country... they're in the phillippines now too.
> they're fighting for the CIA
> and their checks have started coming up short too

I would love using an StG44, especially the full auto versions. The fire rate is so low you can squeeze off just a couple at a time, and actually hit what you're aiming for on suppressive fire ("chase" someone).

Range kinda sucks but in urban fighting it doesnt mean much, its got better penetration than an MP5.

>>34160271

This will come in handy when the SHTF. I have an ability to make people hesitate or even make them lose focus. Meanwhile im in like flint, and for me time is moving kinda slow.

I guess you could say I steal, or vampire, their mental focus and use it myself. I have used it in almost every fistfight ive had since kindergarten, the only times someone was able to react to me was when I wasn't using it.

Combine hesitation, with lethal efficiency on the other end and guess what happens. I think if anyone tried to react they'd be fumbling around for their shit and accidentally drop it, meanwhile they get dead checked. Or maybe not even do anything at all, a blank stare since they can see whats going on but they cant think (ie, a trance).

I can do it at a distance too. Hey I just ran across the street, you forgot to fire for some reason.

If I was larping id be talking about something abit more grand.

I think it also has to do with being able to transmit, or exude the actual energy of a Predator. You can be an operator, you can be a slick shit hitman, but going through the motions doesn't necessarily mean you've got the Energy of it. And you dont need to have those skills either in order to Use it. It has a mental effect, it is intimidating.

> could get away with untold numbers of kills this way, all due to the enemies literally dropping the ball at the worst possible time

>>34160432
Autism: the post.

>>34160432
Weww, lad. Real life is going to come as a shock to you.

>>34160432
holy shit

>>34160453
>>34160490

im pretty sure hes larping

>>34160432
>I have an ability to make people hesitate or even make them lose focus.
That's just people being uncomfortable around your smelly autistic ass
>Meanwhile im in like flint, and for me time is moving kinda slow.
You are slow.

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>>34160453
Hey I just find it funny that if I had to encounter people like this I might well kill them with their own weapons.

They're supposedly fighting for god or whatever, but someone with real sorcery can jank them and make them look like fools despite having who knows how many actual kills under their belt. It certainly didn't protect them.

Ive got other stuff too, but that one is probably the deadliest in the given scenario.

> like knowing ahead of time which days are more dangerous than others, hey guess what I can take some risks today

> no don't go that way, I don't get a good feeling about going down that road

Trust me if it wasn't for these skills I might be dead by now, years ago, you don't know my life.

However, it can be weaponized, too.

>>34160490
I dont belong to any special projects, I just built this up on my own. Somehow missed me when I was a kid I guess.

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>>34160432

>>34160536
>>34160535
My guess is some actual isis/muzzie sympathizer was trying to tell me how it is, and im just reminding them that their god doesn't exist and doesn't protect them.

And there are some really, really scary things out there that can chew them up like peanuts, even if they don't encounter them regularly.

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>>34160432
which one are you?

>>34153644
>fat nigger in the back with an AR and a dewrag.

dude just lives next door and decided ti come out and help

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aren't a lot of those afghan guns just replicas made by some sweatshop sand niggers?

>>34153644
The Rock with duel pistols

>>34160066

Jesus H. Fucking Christ.

>>34160137
>PTRD in one hand
>bitcin' M4 in the other
Ukraine is a weird fucking place.

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>>34160685
Some of them certainly, but the Middle East/Central Asia has been a dumping ground for obsolete military equipment for 160 years.

>>34153446
>>34153644
>>34153675
Pretes? In MY BOPE?
It's... Well honestly I don't know how likely that is.
Are there numbers on that?

>>34156748
Just fucking buy it from him mate, he'll want at most 30 bucks for it.

>>34160562
mental illness makes such reminders ineffective.

>>34153797
even funnier with Poles and lances, they might have retired them officially in 1936, but some stubborn Cavalrymen still kept them around, meaning some saw action during the 1939 invasion.

>>34160272

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I doubt serbian missile operators would use it much though since it increases clutter and meme arma 2 biplanes and helecopters aren't the most important threat in modern air defence

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>>34160432
t. this guy

>>34155047
This was from Donbass

>>34156635
no put it back in service with "fascist, communist, and terrorist for the last 90 years" written on the side

>>34153444
where is that that they are volleying at criminals

>>34154432
This

>>34160099
Those biplanes have a crazy low stall speed, I think it's 35mph or something ridiculous like that. Cool fucking plane, who doesn't like biplanes?

>>34153444
that looks like a martini version of that practice rifle that Ian did a video on.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvCJoGyiqbw

>>34157621
and then it was crushed by an Abrams

>>34153312

Dont afghans use muskets and shit?

>implying any weapon can ever become truly obsolete

>>34162434
considering this, I guess the ultimate answer to OP's question, would be a rock, which is probably something that will be used in combat forever

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>>34153312
Mosins are still used by top commanders to this day.