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>>34149127
They're fine guns but expensive for what they are

>>34149204
I think it's one of the best steel frame guns out there now. Probably the best alternative to the glock epidemic.

>>34149127
I was in a small gun store today and in their case they had a p-10, a red star soviet whatever 75 and a nice wood furniture case hardened looking AR. It was a hole in the wall shop in Milwaukee and most everyone was speaking Spanish.

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>>34149299
This place

>>34149299
The guy at the shop I bought mine from said all the pistol models are selling like hot cakes. I had my heart set on one and when I saw it, i had go make it mine.

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>>34149204
They used to be cheaper but then demand happened.
Still don't think they're overpriced by any means.
>>34149435
Yeah CZ sells insane quantities these days, most places struggle to keep them in stock even with CZUSA getting shipments every couple weeks.

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16 inch barrel came in, just waiting on my ACR stock. Am hard af.

>TFW small hands
>Can't own a CZ comfortably

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>>34149536
have you tried different grips, senpai? I found the stock ones way too fat.

>>34149536
I have short fingers and I like my cz75b. Best pistol I own.

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I got to shoot one of these today, with and without a suppressor.

I had heard they were good, but oh fuck boys now I know. If I didn't already own a 92FS I would be on the hunt for one of these right now.

Is the SP01 a better firearm than the Sig Sauer P226?

>>34149627
Do all the sp-01 models have ambidextrous safties?

>>34149552
which grips are those on the middle right? I love red woods and i need to know.

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>>34149728
CZ USA Cocobolo grips. Available at CZCustom and CZUSA's online store. Not all grips will have the same color and grain pattern, I think mine are a bit above average IMO.

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I might have a little CZ problem

How much should a good condition CZ82 in 9mm mak go for?

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>>34149887
Wat?

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My SP-01 is nice.

>>34149127
Fuck, I want a sp-01 tactical so bad but I already have a beretta 92 Inox...

What do?

>>34149871
I'd call that a CZ solution

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>>34149871
>short rail
How much did that bad boy run you for? I've never seen one out in the wild.

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I've had this 75B for about two years. Love the gun, but realize that I'm never going to use this in a martial sense, so it may as well be riced the fuck out. Been waiting for this sight pushing tool for a few months.

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>>34150036
This was going on the gun at the time.

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How's it going everyone?

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>>34150058
Turns out that the red dot base is too wide to use the sight pushing tool normally. After some coaxing with a rubber mallet I was able to finish drifting it in place by using the sight pushing tool incorrectly.

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I refinished my CZ myself.

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>>34150086
Went on just fine in the end.

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>>34150130

>>34150130
That's pretty cool. I've been thinking about doing a Roland-Special type of thing with a P01 instead of a Glock, but I have no idea what my endgoal with it would be.

>>34150077
is that yours? If so, what does the barrel bushing do on the CZ?
>>34150036
That looks hitech as fuck senpai but why not just use the sight pusher from CZCustom?
>>34150095
That looks really good man nice work!

>>34149997
450 I think, but I live in europe so that doesn*s help you

>>34150198
>That looks hitech as fuck senpai but why not just use the sight pusher from CZCustom?
I have other guns and this one is a more general tool, though I personally wouldn't recommend it. There are some glaring flaws in the design of the pushing arm and the base that host the slide (which are not hard to overcome, but this shit isn't free and it shouldn't be an issue).

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>>34150193
Yeah, I'm sort of not sure where to stop. I think brass grips are a bridge too far. Might look for some other grips in a style I prefer.

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>>34150198
I used a bake to cure header paint for the frame because ceracoat is expensive, and the slide I buffed to a shine then scotchbritted length wise until it had the brushed finish I wanted, I also filled the barrel and barrel bushing flush with the face of the slide, then I recrowned the barrel.

>>34150273
is that a burris fast fire

>>34150308
Oh, the slide is also clear coated with a super clear porcelain finish.

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>>34150324
No, but I was looking at those. I bought the mount a while before deciding which sight to put on it.

>>34150358
im half tempted to get one for my 75 police but i believe amount like yours would be more versatile

>>34150273
I'm probably going to leave the magwell be since that part of the gun is aesthetic as fuck, but I'm thinking about a vortex sight on a rear dovetail mount with a TLR-1 HL, and some sort of compensator. The only issue is that the comp and a threaded barrel are going to cost me an arm and a leg for not that much benefit.

>>34150596
And I'm not interested in one of those rear dovetail charging handles. Putting that kind of stress that holds the optic in place sketches me out. I wish they made a low profile knob or handle that didnt need special installation.

>>34150095
Looks kind of weird in an appealing way. Good job, anon.

>>34150095
dual tone is muh dik. Howd you finish the slide? Cerakote? Please tell me you didnt leave it bare metal...

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>>34150641
tri tone*

>>34150606
>Putting that kind of stress that holds the optic in place sketches me out
Thats understandable, but keep in mind that this thing is going to be flung back and forth by violent explosions repeatedly. I doubt your hand racking strength is going to really do much by comparison.

>>34150650
Well its riding with the slide and slamming back and forth at high speed, but my concern is that when pulling it back, youre putting a lot of angular force on one side of it, and the weight of the spring/slide is well below that point as well, so you're probably going to be pulling it upwards as well as to the side. Shouldnt be a real problem, but I just don't trust it.

>>34150358
What kind of effect does the magwell have on your magazine compatibility?

>>34150737
Magazines all need new baseplates.

On one hand, it does make loading a but faster and doing it blind is easier, but on the other hand, I'm not sure I care.

I'm not set on keeping the magwell on there.

>>34150713
All of that is force you're going to be putting on the slide to rack it anyway. Having handled it, it is not flexing or moving at all. It's overbuilt.

>>34150764
Well, it being overbuilt is good. I rarely slingshot, especially with CZs, so I'd probably end up racking it with my hand against the optic mount on the top of it anyway.

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>>34150713
>youre putting a lot of angular force on one side of it,
That's not quite how you use it. Think of it more like an AR charging handle. Not that charging from just one side is going to hurt anything, there are just easier ways to do things.

>>34150641
Its probably bare metal.
Look at how he didnt even try to get the black polycoat out of the detends and markings.

>>34149887
Oh look its another episode of anon purposely accidentlying the wrong image in an attempt for (you)s.

Well are you happy queer lord? You got one from me

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>tfw local gunsmith found an SP-01 slidelock for my RAMI in Estonia

TYBG

>>34149204
I got my CZ 75BD for $575 while glock 19s were going for $600, beretta 92s going for $700, and sigs going for $1,100. This was just last year. Compared to other comparable 9mm options CZs are a bargain.

>>34151260

This.

CZ's are literally the best gun for their value. You can grab a fucking SP-01, cerakote it in gloss black, and it literally will never rust thereby nullifying the major issue with CZ's in general. You now have yourself a great range toy, home defense gun, and something you can use to cut your teeth on at USPSA and shit.

>>34151260

I have a P-01, a PCR Compact, and a SP-01 Tactical. I have to say my commercial Beretta M9 is my favorite over all of those, and I don't know why.

>>34151330
Maybe it's because berettas just look sexy as fuck.

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>>34151357

Truth, but so are CZs. I just shoot my Beretta like nothing else I own, except maybe my Dan Wesson Valor 1911.

Pic related is an old pic of my PCR.

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>>34150198
It is not mine but this is.

The barrel bushing greatly increases the accuracy of the gun. Standard CZ's have a fair bit of wobble between the slide and frame that means they're not as accurate as they could be and the bushing fixes this.

My SP-01 pictured here is an Orange version that had limited release last year. Their slides were hand fitted so they're very accurate out of the box which is why I opted not go get the Accu Bushing.

>>34150198
Interesting fact. The CZ Custom Shop does not use sight pushers to install any sights and does it all with punch and hammer.

>>34151862
Really? that's interesting. Their sight pusher is pretty solid, I'm glad very happy with it.

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>>34151894
Yup. Brash punch and hammer all day everyday. I had to knock out the sights on like a hundred guns once and it didn't take to long using a punch. Getting the knew ones in was a bit more difficult because sometimes a slide or sight would get dinged and I'd have to refinish it.

Pic related, first gun I ever build at the shop moments before being test fired.

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>>34151934
Yeah pic is missing the brass punch for sight work but when I wanted to start working on my CZ I picked up a brass hammer and a bunch of starrett punches. I fucked my first sights up pretty bad with the steel ones before I grew a brain and bought the brass punch and some nylon sight pushers. I fucking LOVE the nylon pushers, absolutely zero impact on the finish of whatever they hit. The brass punch still kinda leaves a mark if I hit it hard enough.

To be honest I dont think I really needed the sight pusher but it's a nice thing to have around. It makes getting a sight started coming out way easier which is a big deal because the one thing I don't have on my workbench is a damn vise, and it's a bitch to do sight work without one.

So for the bushing, that just acts as like a linkage that keeps the slide and frame more well anchored?

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WHERE MY P-02 BOYS AT?

>>34151991

What are those again? I forgot they existed. How are they different from the P-01? Manual safety?

>>34151998
It's essentially a pretty uncommon (might even consider it rare) variant of a P-01 Omega with a different rollmark. The one I have currently has a safety, I'll probably hunt down a decocker eventually

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>>34151988
>>34151934
here's a pic showing the mark the brass punch left on the second set of sights. It's only visible when the light shines at the right angle but it still kinda bugs me. Oh well.

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>>34151988
>So for the bushing, that just acts as like a linkage that keeps the slide and frame more well anchored?


Pretty much. It is a really tight fit on the barrel which helps keep everything tight and steady to reduce wobble while a round is being fired.

>>34151758
>Blued CZ SP01

Where the hell did you get it and where do I get one?

>>34149871
Hate you Austrian, you and your short rail.

>>34152071
CZ themselves sold blued ones for a bit.

Think you'd have to make a custom order from CZC or just get your own gunsmith to do it.

you guys mind CZ copies?

>>34152217

Depends on if they're good copies. Jerichos use a lot of rollpins, so I frown when I see them, but I guess they're ok. I know the shitass Turks just made some new copies that are decent, but fuck Turkey.

Why not buy CZ? They're decently priced. The Sphinx can fuck off.

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>>34152071
>Where the hell did you get it and where do I get one?

Did it myself at the CZ custom shop. Order one up from them they'll do it (maybe).

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>>34152217
I'm sure you'll get some varying opinions but in general I think you're fine to post/ask about them here.

Ive learned a lot about Tanfos here and still consider picking one up. The stock series looks damn nice.

>>34152019
Eh, I think it's fine. In my opinion guns look better with dings and a little wear on them. Gives them character.

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>>34149657
P226 is has a better trigger.
That's about it.
Sp-01 Shadow shits all over Sig's
>>34149696
Yep

Shouldi buy pic related in 10mm?
Seen a few for $800

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Who else here /poly/?

>>34153685
Yes, absolutely.
That thing is pure fucking sex

>>34151311
Speaking of which, has anybody here done cerakote on their CZ? I'm thinking of getting one soon, and my friend has a whole cera setup at his shop.

>>34154070

I am doing mine next month when I feel like I can be away from them for a week. Only place nearby is always backed up that much.

>>34153685

Where?

>>34149204
>>34149204
really? they are the cheapest steel frame guns ive seen. standard 75b can be had for $400, i think the tacticool model sp01 goes for about $600

Is $550 a good price for a PCR?

>>34149204
>>34149488
>They used to be cheaper but then demand happened.

Look into Tanfoglio. Italian steel frame 9mm CZ clone for $305 right now - or Poly for $270 if you have no taste.
Basically Tanfo cloned the pre-B CZ-75 back in the day, and has forked off in their own direction with differences in the trigger mech and firing pin block. Most CZ clones are Tanfoglio on the inside - Jericho and Sphinx included. It's my humble opinion that Tanfo's design went in a better direction than CZ's - the two Tanfos and one Jericho I own all have better triggers than any 75B I've handled - they're almost as clean as 85 Combat or Pre-B triggers.
My only beef is that Tanfo uses investment casting, not forging, for their lower end frames - this caused issues with cracked frames in harder-recoiling calibers in the past.

>>34152247
imo, Tanfo makes sense in two areas - You're looking for the best bang for your buck, in which case the base model $305 steel and $270 poly guns are the best kept secrets for CZ fans, or if you're looking for a full-on IPSC ready out of the box race guns, in which case their top-end models are comparative steals compared to anything else you can build or buy.

I kick myself for not having bought more CZs back when they were ridiculously cheap, but I'm not making the same mistake with Tanfo.

i am a dumb fag and accidentally bought a P-01 instead of the sp-01. need to convert it to left hand or ambi. is this possible? or feasible? or should i just sell it and buy the right one? thanks

>>34154207

What's the problem? The decocker?

>>34154207
SP-01 ambi parts will not fit due to different frame thicknesses - if any other Ambi parts exist that will fit the P-01, I don't know.
Call CZ's Custom shop and ask them if it can be done - I imagine it'll take custom work. Maybe if you're lucky, they'll just refer you to a part number or something.

>>34154247

I want to know what he's complaining about.

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>>34153895
My nigga

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Love my P01, almost as much as my USPc45. I'm probably getting either an SP01 as my next handgun, or a 75 with wood grips as a dress carry gun.

>>34154254

the decocker. the mag release. the slide release. etc. everything needs to be either ambidextrous or left handed.

>>34154247

thank you

>>34149127
I saw one in a store today. The trigger was piss poor. Glad I didn't buy one.

>>34154444

Lol, no it doesn't. Or do you not know how to operate right handed guns as a sinistral? Come on my man, it's a right-hand world, you should have adapted by now. Do you use a left-handed mouse too?

Mag release is easily operated if you use a thumb over thumb grip and use your index finger. Slide lock can easily be released with your index finger, you don't need to pull back on the slide to release it. Decocker can be manipulated with the inside of your index finger, but I don't like decockers, so IMO you fucked up there anyway.

>inb4 BUT WHAT IF YOU ARE YOUR STRONG ARM DOWN

Then you are shooting with your right hand and all of your problems are solved.

>>34154523

but it does. because that's my request. and i want it to be comfortable and make sense. dur dur left hand mouse. take your dumbass worthless remarks and shove them.

>>34149488
ECZPLOSION

>>34154545

No it doesn't, I am a lefty. I have an SP-01, P-09, RAMI, and soon to be P97. Of these guns, the only problem I have with ANY OF THEM is RAMI's slide-lock being literally too well engineered and consequently needing to be replaced with an SP-01's so I can properly actuate the pistol. I have no idea why you don't know how to operate right handed guns as a lefty. If anything this ability gives you a massive advantage by default.

>>34149536
I thought the whole appeal of CZ was for people with small hands.

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>>34149779
>>34149552
>>34149536
ebay g10 slim grips are goat tier for cz's

>>34152073
that totally isn't me

>>34154575
manlets always complain about not being able to reach the mag release or slide release on every gun

even on 1911s without grip panels..

>>34154155
>standard 75b can be had for $400

from fucking where

they are sold out everywhere

I dumbscratched the finish on my SP01 slide, I was told it's some sort of epoxy and no way I could fix it without sending it back to CZ.
True or not?

It's not that visible but bothers me a lot.

>>34155004

Define "fix".

>>34155214
Make it look like new again.

CZ's probably gonna charge me 200 or something.

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>>34149779
I prefer mine but yours are nice.

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>>34156210
The ones on the compact especially look like they've got nice grain pattern. IMO the full checker doesn't look as good, but having shot with the half checker a bit, I think the full checker are the way to go if it's a gun you plan to shoot. These ones are just too damn slippery up top. That's why I ended up switching to the aluminum w/ grip tape. That, and because even more thinness.
>>34154586
I already own four sets of grips and have at least 3 more that I'm interested in. Now you're gonna add more to that list? Goddammit.
>>34154548
CZAZUMA! CZAZUMA!
>>34154201
Haha you replied to me with both of those. By the book you wrote I'm guessing you're the same guy that's talked to me about Tanfo before, and Im still very interested. We discussed them being compatible with my current assortment of magazines and the fit/finish on the high end stuff from them is quite nice. Only thing I dont love about the Stock line aesthetically is the import engraving that reminds me of shitting electrostencil writing on surplus guns.

>>34149779
Fuck me that's gorgeous.

>>34151991
Stuck holding my dick. I want one of those so bad.

>>34156824
why buy a normal SP01 instead of a Shadow when you swap the sights anyway ?

>>34153895
Was thinking of getting a P-07 as my first 9mm and my first CZ. Opinions? My only other pistol is a .45 1911. Only caveat is I'm in NY, and 10 round mags might not be as common as I'm hoping for. I'm thinking P-07 or Glock 19.

>>34149964

Save up.

>>34157282
1) I wanted to start with a "base" gun and upgrade from there so that I could make my own choices in terms of what sights/grips/internals I upgrade to
2) I'm a college student and it's a pain to afford the higher end models with their big up-front cost
3) I like to tinker and modify stuff so I actually enjoyed learning to do the work needed to bring this pistol up to the standards of more costly options
4) It's just what my LGS had in stock one day and I bought it on impulse. Haven't seen too many SP models there before or after the shipment when I bought mine.

>>34156824
Those aluminum ones look sexy but I shoot a fat gun, talking around web of hand area like with SIG 226 or Betetta a lot better than guns where they narrow that part. Kind of want the thin grips for aesthetic and carry but the personal fit isn't there.

>>34149127
how much does a cz75 cost?

>>34157792

Don't answer this guy, fuck anyone that can't do a four second Google search.

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>>34157787
For what it's worth, some of the aluminum grips are thicker than others. Probably not thick enough for your liking though.

>>34157792
You can probably expect to pay around 500-600 for more basic models, 600-700 for higher-end ones like the SP-01, and over 1000 for the competition models. Those are new prices in the current market. Not long ago it was closer to 450 new for a base model 75B. :(

>>34157335
With the power of Greg Cote LLC, you can get as many mags as you want. Unfortunately, it looks like factory mags are the only ones available in 10rd variants, so you won't be able to go with MecGar to save money.

http://gregcotellc.com/cart/cz-factory-mecgar-magazines-c-173/cz-p07-cz-p07-duty-9mm-10-rd-factory-magazine-11189-p-1429.html

>>34156952
Thanks senpai. I agree. I'll probably buy another CZ just to keep them on since I took them off the SP-01.

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>>34156824
Guilty as charged. I'm probably one of the only resident Tanfoglio fanboys on /k/.
EAA can suck a fat one for their import markings. I really wish they'd stop rebranding them as "Witness" too.
They're great guns and EAA just doesn't do them justice as an importer, especially compared to how CZUSA handles things.
The higher end ones tend to come with better markings - both from the factory and from EAA. The lower end guns come with dot matrix style stampings, higher end ones are engraved.
On my basic 9mm Full Size, I just wiped over EAA's import marks with some black nail polish to subdue it a bit. Came out nice.

Honestly if you're on the fence, I really do recommend the $305 gun. Zero failures in about 1200 rounds and shoots better than my 75B. If you like it, you can go out and get a Stock 2 or 3 and still come out a couple hundred cheaper than a comparable SP01 Shadow.

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Family photo!

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this is my cz PCR; I bought it yesterday. say something nice about it!

>>34161027
I'd cock her, if you know what I mean.

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>>34149127

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>>34161090

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>>34161027
Congrats! I bought and carried my PCR since 2012. May she serve you well

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>>34160248
oh my dick. I love CZ's catalogue.

Isn't the PCR supposed to say "PCR" on the side? I see a lot of 75D Compacts being sold as PCRs and it really pisses me off.

>>34161122
I guess. I've seen them sold as both D and PCR and they seem functionally identical.

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>>34161119

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>>34151311
>best gun for their value
>implying steel framed guns can be good at anything other than being a brick

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>>34161234
You ever contemplate fucking killing yourself? because you really should. I'd highly recommend it for someone in your position.

>>34161133
The only real difference is that the PCR is alloy instead of steel, has a loaded chamber indicator, and has non-snag sights. It's also ever so slightly thicker becasue the alloy frame has to be thicker than the steel, and as a result it tends to fit very tightly in normal 75D Compact holsters.

>>34161297
Interesting, since my CZ-75D Compact has an alloy frame and has all of those features.

See >>34161119

>>34161122
I have never seen one stamped PCR, it's always cz75d compact, as shown on their site

http://cz-usa.com/product/cz-75-d-pcr-compact-black-alloy-9mm-14-rd-mags/

the steel compact is identical but omits the D

>>34161396
that's what he's saying, you have a PCR so you have those features

>>34153895
I finally got to handle a P07 at a show this weekend. It felt really good but I passed on it. I wanted to get it for CC but it felt way too chunky for my tastes. I'm a 6'4" 200 lb. hungry hungry skeleton. Guess my 75BD will have to sit alone by itself...

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>>34153895
Not me, but my friend is suppressor ready P-09

>>34161119
do you carry it DA or the half-cocked DA?

>>34161122
>>34161297
>>34161464
The CZ names for their guns changes depending on the market they're sold to. Sometimes they ship stuff meant for the euro market to the US, resulting in stuff like that. The other common one is seeing P-01 with a slide that just says compact.

>>34161461
>>34161512
That's what's so confusing for me. I HAVE seen them marked as PCR. I've also seen a P-01 marked as just Compact.

>>34161504
Half-cock. I know the thing has a firing pin block, but I wouldn't wanna risk dropping the hammer on a live round

>>34161530
do you have any pictures of a PCR rollmark? every result on google has the cz75d compact stamp. maybe it's just a yurop thing?

>>34161585
are those the aluminum grips? and is that a different trigger?

>>34161588
No picture, I saw it in a shop a while back. But I'm 90% certain I've seen at least one pic online that has a PCR rollmark

>>34161602
not him but those are definitely aluminum grips and what looks to be a stock trigger

>>34162512
pcr ships with a silver trigger though

>>34163087
Most of them seem to but not all. CZ is like that, they change shit like finish on the trigger or barrel without really making anything out of it. If i had to hazard a guess, the silver triggers might be disappearing along with the 85 series, which often featured them.

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>>34156210
M'nigga!

>>34163144
that only happens for US models though

all euro models still have silver barrels and silver triggers

>>34154201
I want a kriss sphinx. That shit looks down right sexy.
But I m afraid by the time i get around to buy it, Kriss is gonna bite the dust. Or be in such a bad place that their QC goes out the window

>>34161530
The top is the same, its the frame thats going to be different.
>cz75 compact - steel non rail frame
>pcr - aluminum non rail frame
>p01 - aluminum railed frame

Im guessing cz didnt have enough of the correct stamped slides and just mixed and matched.