Superweapons

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My favorite super weapon project is Project Babylon which was Saddam Hussein's 512 foot, 1 meter bore super cannon for shooting Israel. The whole story plays out like a bond film.

>American scientist works on program to shoot satellites into orbit.
>Genius ballistician
>U.S. shitcans space gun program
>Scientist dreams of firing satellites into orbit.
>He begins to shop around for governments who will pay for space artillery
>No ones buying except for Saddam Hussein
>Scientist goes to Iraq to pitch the idea
>Saddam says "I will make your dream come true but first you must build me a weapon"
>A cannon so powerful I will be able to shoot Israel from Iraq
>Scientist reluctantly agrees and begins construction and testing
>Parts secretly being ordered from all over the world for the cannons
>M16 and CIA begin to hear of rumors of Iraqi superweapon
>They sabotage the parts in the factories in order to delay or destroy the project
>Scientist still making progress
>Saddam asks for advice about his new scud missiles
>Scientist agrees all so he can get his satellite gun
>Mossad hears rumors about Iraqi super weapon
>Scientist is found dead in the doorway of his home with five gunshots to the back of the head the next day.
>Without the scientists genius the supergun program quickly falls apart and various nations seize the materiel Iraq was secretly purchasing.
>Maybe it was Mossad that put the bullets in him in the doorway to his apartment in Brussels but wikipedia says this about his assassination "Due to Bull's past ventures, it has been speculated that besides Iran or Israel, the CIA, MI6, or the Chilean, Syrian, Iraqi, or South African government could have been behind his assassination."
>Goodnight you sweet dreamer of stars and space

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald_Bull
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Babylon
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_HARP

>>34145384
Sorry quick edit. HE WAS A LEAF. Didn't see that one coming. Still worked for the U.S. though.

>>34145384
Shoot for the stars, or bust!

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>>34145384
His first attempt as shooting things into space with big fucking guns. Fuck the rocketeers and steely eyed missile men. Who needs rockets when you have space artillery.

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>>34145399
His first prototype of the Babylon cannon nicknamed Baby Babylon.

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>>34145384

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>>34145426
While Big Babylon was never completed here is part of it that was confiscated by the brits.

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posting the obvious one
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schwerer_Gustav

>>34145384
Is this some ace combat 5 shit ?

>>34145454
I'm not quite sure what you mean by that.

>>34145384

This kinda makes me remember a similar project but instead of a cannon it used a very powerful nuke underground, so the pressure of the explosion in such an enclosed space would put things into orbit.

It had problems, one of them was that the acceleration was so high that your payload was very limited but theoretically could work.

>>34145244
Anyone got the one for the soviet one shot relatavistic cannon?

Goes like this:
>soviet nuclear physicists given thought experiment
>what if an independance day type invasion from a massivley advanced alien ship ocurred?
>well, dig a really deep hole lined with concrete as close to being perfectly circular as possible
>fill it halfway with water
>float a tsar-bomba type super-nuke as close to preciseley in the ceter of the water as possible
>cap the fucker with a huge metal cap
>fire
>nuke converts water to steam, pressure of the blast is enhanced which vaporizes the metal plug and fires it in a giant plasma beam of go fuck yourself moving at a significant portion of the speed of light

They had no way to aim it or anything, the goal was just to produce a theoretical concept capable of generating that kind of kinetic energy, but still.....

>>34145494
Called operation plumb-bob. They detonated a nuke in a deep shaft and fired a 2000 pound steel plug at huge velocity.

It reached a high enough speed to hit escape velocities (actually way WAY higher than that). Its often misquoted as having reached orbit but more likley it vaporised before it could leave the atmosphere due to how hot the blast would have made it combined with how fast it was moving.

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>>34145409
Who can operate this thing without being blasted by the shockwave?
Need the Gatling version.

>>34145384
it was aimed south ie not at Israel. it was not a weapon no matter the lies. it had no air defense. If it had worked it would have had a monopoly on polar launching of satellites. It could very well have been the French that killed him as Israel tends not to risk mossad when they can just do a simple airstrike.

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>>34145513
This the one you're talking about?

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>>34145244

A lot of things that Convair did.

>>34148317
Yeah the Casaba howitzer. Really does a number on me at the concept of getting anything up to a double digit percentage of C.

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Have Sting. Not really a superweapon, it was an SDI planned orbital railgun firing a projo at ~15 kps, for about 30 megajoules IIRC.

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>Let's build really big planes.
>Good idea. But why?

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>Let's power them with nuclear power.
>But what if it crashes?
>Well, let's hope it crashes over enemy territory. Just to be clear: we're designing a bomber. It carries nukes. Lots of nukes.
>Won't the radiation harm the crew?
>Let's place the crew away from the main body. Like, a little cockpit on top of the vertical stabilizer.

>>34145244
Sprint missile
something that even Wile E Coyote would nope

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>Let's nuke incoming nukes.
>Good idea. What's your rank, kid?
>Junior mad scientist.
>You show promise. You're promoted to mad scientist. Keep up the good work.

>>34148569
what about the AIR-2 Genie?
thats pretty nutty

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>>34148418
No, The Casaba howitzer is this thing. It's a powerful little thing, and if you replace the tungsten with Styrofoam, you get one hell of a particle beam.

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>Let's make the enemy trip balls.
>Good idea.
>I came up with it while tripping balls.

>>34148317
Fuck yeah! Thanks!

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>lol wtf did I just design

>>34148675
they use this kinda thing for riot control as well

>>34148766

It's like an M3 Grant as designed by somebody tripping on the drugs from: >>34148675

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>>34148799

That can be taken for granted.

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Early Space Shuttle concepts. By none other than Convair of course.

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This thread is bananas.

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Instead of just superweapons, this thread is now also about insane cold war concept weapons in general.

>>34149020
>be me as a kid
>looking at lots and lots of concept pics like this
>daddy, why didnt they build these?
>he would take a long drag off his cigarette and stare into the horizon
>in a deep gravelly voice hed reply with wisdom and gravity
>"cuz they were pussies son"

My dad was pretty based.

>>34148317
Holy shit. Double digits takes you into death star levels of power.

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>>34149020
A few years early but pic related

>>34145566
Didn't the Ruskies do this more or less to create an nuclear molten copper blob that reached some significant percentage of light speed?

>>34149452
Not exactly. Its not just velocity but the mass of the object being tossed too. Its a really really REALLY powerful beam of plasms, but not "obliterating planets" powerful. Its got the velocity but lacks the mass for that.

>>34149701
At those energies and velocities were dealing with a very high energy very high velocity plasma.

>>34149720
I was thinking a standard F=ma. How much energy are we actually talking?

>>34148770
Do you have a single fact to back that up?

>>34149903

indeed, allthough i should fix that to allegedly https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3-Quinuclidinyl_benzilate

>>34149903
also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M43_BZ_cluster_bomb
allthough i must say they were not used

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>>34145384
Here's a picture I took of part of it. I know it's similar to the wiki pic but that's because there's very little areas to take a photo from and get a good image.

Fort Nelson
Portsmouth
U.K.

>>34150029
and for the those of you who wont follow the link
Between 50% and 80% of BZ casualties had to be restrained during recovery to prevent self-injury; other common symptoms during recovery were paranoia and mania

>>34148317
>the reason there isn't any galactic community of aliens is because everyone has ghetto plasma cannons pointed in all directions, and it's safer to avoid broadcasting planets in case a lucky hit gets your 500 trillion dollar spaceship

>>34150126
>be aliens approaching planet 'earth'
>a garbled voice starts talking over the radio
>you hear 'Tpaхaть инoплaнeтян' screamed over it
>seconds later a giant EFP shaped like a >hammer and sickle cuts stright though our ship

>>34150223
I beginning to think that, given our species' history, aliens are deliberately avoiding contact because they know someone will try to go to war with them and use nukes.

>>34150283
that is likely, they must think we are all crazy arse holes

>>34150223
I'd love to see a movie where they use the first act the establish an invading race of highly advanced aliens and then the rest of the movie is just humans kicking the shit out of them with puddle nukes, IEDs, and sharp sticks

>>34150414
is that not most alien films?

>>34150414
Battle Los Angeles

>>34150495
For real? Is it worth watching?

>>34150504
It isn't the greatest film, but a fun and decently /k/ film.

>aliens come for earth
>muhreens come in and remove ET's punk ass with brute strength and smokeless powder

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High-Speed Semi-Submersible Arsenal Ship, as being built by China this moment.

20.000 ton monohull warship equipped with 200+ VLS missiles and with pumpjet propulsion and hydrofoils for high speed surfaced, as well as 35 knots submerged. Launches saturational attacks against US carrier groups at stand-off range, and submerges to get away from return fire. LRASM will merely pass over it, unable to find any target.

3 already ordered.

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>>34151187
Floating model was successfully tested in 2016.

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>>34151198
Similiar in concept as the French SMX-25, only much larger and with more firepower.

>>34151187
So basically an Ohio SSGN that can't dive too much.
That wants to be a jack of all trades and solver of all problems.
With fancy shit on it that only works in specific situations while being dead weight in all others.
That is made in China.

So an F-35 then?

>>34148739
>minmatar engineering

>>34148317
Anyone got an actual name of a project, or some reports or something, or is this bullshit.
At least Casaba howitzers show up in reports.
This appears to be fake.

>>34145467
The Ace Combat games always have batshit crazy superweapons. There was a railgun somewhat like this in one of the games, with the exception being that the bore is so large that you could comfortably fly a fucking F14D with the wings extended down the barrel.

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>>34145244
[angry nuclear-powered aircraft carrier noises]

Has anyone ever proposed a modern (i.e. jet era, presumably VTOL) submersible aircraft carrier, or has the limited utility always kept it from even being a semi-serious drawing board study?

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>tfw you'll never see this or the YAL-1 dropping hot loads on disgusting foreigners

>>34150414
Try Harry Turtledove's Worldwar book series, invading aliens have late 20th century AFVs, nukes and jets and they invade during World War 2.

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Here, have another nuke powered tank.

>>34151187

>"Surely there is no way this could ever go badly!"

Jesus Christ.

>>34148158
Not sure if serious. I find both you and your post suspicious.

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>>34145244
I love submarines.

Ultimate superweapons if you want to survive pulling the trigger.

Wonder if theres huge classified cities underwater where submarines can dock and drop off passengers. Theres totally not a city underneath the north sea.

>>34145384
also the guy that helped with missiles for gaddafi was better. Atleast hes living on an private island enjoying drinks with his wife

So many "superweapons" have been declassified or published without their authorties beeing aware.

Soviet stuff. Concepts are in the millions.

Much classified stuff. Terrorists are stupid stupid people limiting tech for the masses.

>>34145244
Does Perimeter count as a superweapon?

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>>34154660
https://qz.com/778839/north-koreas-nuclear-test-was-a-sales-pitch-to-rogue-states-like-iran-syria-and-pakistan/

See what happens. Fat chinese people pump enough money into artifical puppet regimes and creates a blackmarket for fresh nuclear tech.

Superweapons is a lost art. So much awsome stuff was conceptualized and created in the 1900`s.

>>34150073
Literally just up the road from me. Great place to go.

>>34151187
>an arsenal ship
>who's primary mission has nothing to do with air defense
>who does not submerge enough to avoid the gorrllion amounts of anti sub air assets.
>all to avoid the tertiary means the USN has to kill surface assets

What the actual fuck. It's essentially a shit tier Ohio (SSGN) class, because it can't do sub things.

Sauce on it being ordered, I have to see if the PLAN is that fucking full retard or if you are just a troll pretending they are.

>>34145513
You mean the super run Russian gun

I found out about this a couple weeks ago, but it details that a copper lid on top of the concrete chamber would be launched at minimum double digit percentage of the fraction of c (10% speed of light)

>Sookah bleeyad gib copper

>>34154667
ROAD O ROLLERDA

>>34154667
>Road roller to crush any survivors
genius

>>34154682
Same. I work in Portsmouth. What PO are you?

>>34149004
This reminds me of the fact that the Israeli prototype merkava-based 155m self propelled cannon actually had a stabilized barrel, which means it could shoot direct LOS targets while moving.
Imagine, being hit by a 155m shell directly.

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>>34154976
>he Israeli prototype merkava-based 155m self propelled cannon actually had a stabilized barrel
Proof? I've never heard of that before, and considering the tactical considerations for a howitzer, the power requirements for stabilizing a howitzer, and the fact that it had an automatic gun support makes me doubt that.

>>34149808
You've never taken a university level physics class have you? Even high school level?

>>34149701
I've read about that half a dozen times on /k/ but never found a reference to it anywhere else.

>>34148430
>SOLG

>>34149808
Jesus dude, that's not even the right formula

Its E = 0.5 * m * v^2 * [lambda]

E is kinetic energy in joules
m is mass in kg
v is velocity in m/s
And lambda is the relativistic factor, equal to 1/(1-[v/c]). As v -> c, lambda -> infinity


If you wanted to blow up a planet, youd need to exceed the gravitational binding energy of said planet.

>>34145442
That shit helped cost Germany the war. The effort and material could have made several U-boats instead.

>>34148158
>it was not a weapon no matter the lies.

Arabs cannot be permitted that level of tech and cannot have peaceful intentions. While I'd be fine with destroying Tel Aviv (the entire Middle East should be exterminated) it's obivious the tech would have been weaponized and more than one built.

>>34155590
2/2

GBE is calculated by
U = 0.6 * G * m^2 / r
G is the grav constant
m is mass
r is radius

For the earth, the GBE is about 2 x10^32 joules, whereas the spess cannon has an output of merely...

The post doesnt have a mass for the projectile

Well, lets put it this way. If it COULD blow up a planet and had a v of, say, 14% c, the projectile would need a mass of 2 x 10^17 kg, or 1/300,000 the mass of the earth

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>>34155057
I didn't not have any good proof, just the Wikipedia article about it. It could very well be false.

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>>34145435

>>34154952
PO3

>>34145244
>ctrl f t-15
>no results
In the early 1950s, the Soviet Ministry of Medium Machine Building secretly initiated plans for incorporating nuclear warheads into submarine warfare. One concept, the T-15 project, aimed to provide a nuclear warhead compatible with the traditional 1550 millimeter caliber torpedo already used in Soviet diesel-powered submarines. The T-15 project began in strict secrecy in 1951. Research and testing was contemporaneous with the other concept, the much smaller and lighter 533 millimeter torpedo referred to as the T-5. Stalin and the armed forces saw benefits to both calibers of torpedo: the T-5 was a superior tactical option, but the T-15 had a larger blast. Meetings at the Kremlin were so highly classified that the Navy was not informed. The plans for the T-15 torpedo and for an appropriately redesigned submarine, named project 627, were authorized on September 12, 1952 but were not officially approved until 1953, surprising the Navy, which had been unaware of the central government activity.[4]:239-240 The T-15 project developed a torpedo that could travel 16 miles with a hydrogen bomb warhead. The 1550 millimeter T-15 design was 5 feet in diameter and weighed 40 tons. The large size of the weapon limited the capacity of a modified submarine to a single torpedo that could only travel at a speed of 30 knots. The torpedo speed was hindered by the usage of an electric propelled motor to launch the warhead.[3]

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The T-15 was intended to destroy naval bases and coastal towns by an underwater explosion that resulted in massive tsunami waves. The front compartment of the T-15 submarines held the massive torpedo, which occupied 22 percent of the length of the submarine. A submarine could only hold one T-15 at a time, but it was also equipped with two 533-millimeter torpedo tubes intended for self-defense. In 1953, the T-15 project presented its conclusions to the Central Council of the Communist Party, where it was determined that the project would be managed by the Navy. In 1954, a committee of naval experts disagreed with continuing the T-15 nuclear torpedoes. Their criticisms centered on a lack of need when considered along with existing weapons in the submarine fleet, as well as skepticism that submarines would be able to approach launch points close enough to the coastline to hit targets within 40 km.[5]

Project 627 was modified to provide reactors for a new vessel that would be capable of deploying 533mm caliber torpedoes in the T-5 project. However, the termination of the T-15 program in 1954 was not the last time a large torpedo would be considered as means of deployment. In 1961, Andrei Sakharov revisited the idea after the successful testing of his new 52Mt bomb, which was too large for aircraft. When he introduced the concept to the navy they did not welcome the idea, being turned off by the wide area effect which would kill so many innocent people. Technological advances led to the weapon selection process favoring more tactical approaches that were amenable to quicker execution.[6]

>>34154667
thank you based buk

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>>34154667
THANK YOU BASED BUK

>>34155683
http://www.military-today.com/artillery/sholef.htm
The text seems to be copied from here. Still no citations, and I'm not really familiar with the site. Anyone know of it's reputable?

>>34148739
What's more of a threat, mines or sandbars?

>>34148675
To be fair I wouldn't want to be tripping on a large dose of acid while holding a gun.
Nor would I want anyone around me holding a gun tripping balls.
Especially in a small, depressing, paranoia inducing, claustrophobic environment such as on I don't know a trench.

>>34148854
Dafug is it even?

>>34154660
>Wonder if theres huge classified cities underwater where submarines can dock and drop off passengers. Theres totally not a city underneath the north sea.

Of course, and aryan 4th reich remnants working with the illuminati and the star wardens colonizing the rest of the multiverse and all the other dimensions, along with taking agartha, the inner earth, and the forgotten continents beyond the antarctic wall as their dominion

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>>34148949
I love how we just made everything nuclear.

>>34145384
I winder if it would've worked...

>>34156218
WE WILL NEVER KNOW. The one man who dreamed of spaceship cannons is dead. Now its all about reusable rockets and spaceplanes. An entire field of escape velocity explosive ballistics is unresearched and will remain that way. Dead science. Engineers will push their pencils and say "the math checks out" but no one is goig to pony up the cash to shoot space.

>>34156218
No one will aim enourmous guns at the sky for science anymore. /k/'s space adventures are limited to NASA door gunners for the next century.

I think my favorite doomsday weapon is the relativistic kinetic kill vehicle.
To use this weapon, you start by building a ship that is quite large and can go very fast, probably >30% the speed of light. Next, you point this fucker at whatever you want eradicated from the universe, say a planet light-years away. All you have to do now is get it up to speed and you have yourself a nearly undetectable doomsday slug.
Sure, it might take many years to get there, but they'll never even see because light can only move so quickly, and this thing is going so fast that it's not actually there when you detect it. And when it hits the target, all of the kinetic energy of the slug is dumped instantly and you have an explosion we could only dream making using nuclear weapons, possibly much greater than dinosaur killing levels.
Scariest thing about these things is that we could have one heading our way right now and we would never even see it coming, and then we'd be fucked.

>>34156218
Only one man was smart enough and ambitious enough to look at the empty, lonely, majesty of outer space and say to himself "I need to shoot it". He knew it was dumb, he knew the math, he wanted to anyways. I wonder if he ever did it what the next thing he would shoot would be? The moon? The sun? A black hole? Another galaxy? Another time? Another reality? Time traveling bullets to kill the past and the future? Transdimensional kinetic kill vehicles to shoot ourselves before we get wise and fire first? Some men become soldiers and shoot the enemy. Some men build the guns to shoot the enemy. One man wanted to build a gun to shoot space.

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>>34154667
>Destroying them with no survivors.

>>34155651
which would have been sunk by Doenitz trying to micro a macro game.
>muh impenetrable enigma
fucking retards

>>34156507
I think we would see it coming, as light off of it still moves faster than it. Putting a cloud of debris along track could kill it as well.

>>34145494
the payload isn't limited in the actual physical amount, just that you can't send humans, just inanimate objects.
But you could send as much as 300,000 metric tons.
30 times the total amount of everything we've put into space.

>>34156914
Soooo... we could use that to shoot all the nuclear waste on the planet in to the sun? If we use water as the pressurized agent, wouldn't one only produce tritum and deuterium as well, i.e. stuff found on earth anyway?

You can really sell this to the hippies. Use nukes to clean up the earth. Mang, Trump could use this to eradicate debt buy getting the US paid for shooting waste in to the sun...

>>34156966
Why would we shoot nuclear waste into space?
That's a waste of money and also that waste has other uses.
First you can recycle it for fuel in reactors.
Second of all you can use it in radioisotope thermoelectric generators.
Third there's plenty of other industrial uses, in sensors and what not.
No reason to just shoot matter into space to get rid of it.

Even if you did use it for that Hippies still wouldn't be onboard with it because "MUH NUKULAR WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION AND MUH FALLOUT!!!"

Too bad, this would make space colonization actually feasible and cheap.
Could send a bunch of raw materials into space, maybe even whole rockets, then send that to the moon where it could be used to construct ships and bases and other things.
You could do this in orbit but it's easie and safer to do it on the moon.

But then again Elon musk wouldn't make any money from it because rockets would become almost useless and would only be used for launching humans.

>>34154610
how does that thing elevate or depress its gun?

>>34155843
>>34155852
This is hilarious. A giant, slow, lumbering submarine that launches a single torpedo at islands and ports. It would sail for days, fire once, sail for days, reload, and maybe do it again. I love USSR

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>>34148675

>>34145454
>>34145467
>>34153474
It was Ace Combat 6

>>34156165

a space ship

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>>34148993

wew

>>34149020

The thing is, half the things in there are now feasible vehicles (in terms of actual combat/practicality) thanks to avionics improvements. Eg, the V-22 or F-35.

>>34149970
Why would you want to have a bunch already pissed off roters get even more paranoid and harder to control, dosen't seem to make much sense

>>34145566
We have better materials tech now I wonder if we could actually get a solid/semi-solid/evil killing blob of plasma slug into orbit? Face it at relativistic velocities more than orbit. So Independence Day type thing going to happen, we have warning so we build a flock of these to shoot down stuff in orbit.

Fallout might be bad but vs alien invasion it might be the only way to shoot down a alien ship in orbit.

>>34149525
i wonder how that would have sounded

>>34151187
Hopefully it survives the attack subs Water-jet propulsion systems are not really quiet at all.

>>34148430
Serial # SH1-0151

>>34157499
Hallucinogens are terrible for this reason, and narcotics dont work either. Russian spetznaz did a thing using narcotic gas on a mass crowd once. All the hostages died. Turns out:
A) different people tend to react differently (and dangerously) to different dosages of drugs.
B) they tend to pass out in assorted positions where their airways are cut off and they suffocate.

They gassed a whole theater during a hostage standoff and found the entire group of hostages had suffocated because theyd all slumped forward in their seats with their chins tucked to their chests and suffocated.

So using drugs to target rioters is gonna end in mass casualties pretty much regardless of what kinda compound is used.
Hallucigens = worse rioting, possible overdose cases, self injury due to psychosis
Narcotics = overdose, suffocation

On a related note the military is working on an opiate thats 100 times more powerful than fentanyl (fentanyl is itself 100 times more powerful than morphine). Idea is a "humane" chemical weapon that doesnt linger as a toxic residue for years like nerve or blister agents tend to.

Everyone gassed just lays down and goes into a nice warm fuzzy permanant sleep.

>>34157572
Quite frankly I thing multi-megaton casaba howizers deployed in swarms set to volley fire from multiple angles of attack is a better idea. Cheaper, can be easily mass produced and deployed without requiring any new tech to be developed.

Casaba howizers are firing beams of radiation, light, and plasma at relatavistic speeds if fired in a vaccume. Dont forget they have solar system spanning ranges when built in say, a 150 megaton yield. If you touched one off in orbit around the moon you could effectivley target and hit shit out to fuckin mars.

Just orbit swarms of em all over the solar system. If any ayyyys get fuckin uppity and decide to steal a few comets or conquer a "lesser" race they just drop outta FTL or whatever directly into Satan's hornet nest.

>ywn get to see the ayys mother ship melt like an ice sculpture under the relentless firestorm of hundreds and hundreds of sucessive casaba howitzer barrages.

Feels bad man.

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>>34154694
>>34152341
>>34157638

It has air-defense. It is basically a submersible missile cruiser. It surfaces its conning tower equipped with APARs and datalink to engage air targets and get feed from off-board sensors.

It shoots down your P-8s from hundreds of km range just as any air defense destroyer could.

Only difference is; once you detect it, you cant kill it with anti-ship missiles as it simply dives away.

And none of your nuclear submarines will reach it, since its anti-ship missiles have 600+ km range and all 200+ will launch against your carrier before your attack subs can even get close to it.

Basically, it is a checkmate weapon against the US. There is no way the US can conter it. They just cant.

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>>34157824
http://www.popsci.com/g00/futuristic-chinese-warship-concept-is-making-waves?i10c.referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.de%2F

>>34157763
>supreme overlord glargnac, we are about to translate into the filthy earth creatures system
>"good, we will show them how a superior race does conquest"
>the ship transfers from FTL speed and all is going according to plan....... for about 3 seconds
>a flash of blinding light sets sensors off
>WHAT WAS THAT?
>it is nothing overlord, a pathetic attempt at resistance, it bareley took .3% of our shields to sto-
>another, then several more
>those were closer, it burned 5% of our shields overlord
>"no matter, we will burn their cities to bedrock for such insolence!"
>suddenly hundreds and hundreds of stobes of energy explode across the ships defensive fields seemingly from every where at once
>SHIELDS AT 20 %... 15%, 10, 5, THEYRE BREAKING THROUGH
>the relentless barrage of crude weapons (essentially the intergalactic equivalent of muzzle loaded cannons) doesnt just continue, but actually increases in volume
>the ships sensor readout is little more than shrieking white noise, the sheer overbearing fury of the swarming assault has driven the ships AI irreparably mad
>THEYRE BURNING THROUGH THE ABLATIVE PLATING!
>the ships exotic and normally self repairing hull plating glows orange, then white, then finally begins vaprizing and peeling off in layers
>the crew has just enough time to wail in terror at this humiliating defeat from the earth vermin before the heat dissapators fail and they are baked alive
>none of the crew are alive to expierience the vessel crumpling and shriveling under the ludicrously violent and relentless assault

>>34157824
*cough* US and UK attack subs "watch" as Chinese ships sail out and by them. US has attack subs fairly close to most contenders major ports every day. If it looked like war this ship would followed be fairly easily. Nothing about it makes it specifically immune to submarine attack. Nothing about the concept makes it a magic "I win" ship. It's interesting and it's looking like a less stealthy version of current SSGs.

>>34155742
Ah fair. I'm PO11

>>34158109
Then these attack subs get first killed by Chinese underwater sonar networks.


http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/10906/south-china-sea-underwater-environmental-sensor-net-could-track-u-s-subs

A few lone US SSNs are dead meat to Chinese MPAs cued by their SOSUS.

>>34157824
>There is no way the US can conter it. They just cant.

Someone doesn't know about ASROC.

>>34158375
30km RUM max vs 600-900km of YJ-100 AShM.

>>34157677
Huh, interesting, although dying from opioid OD isn't necessarily pleasent.

>>34158349
Nigger do you understand how much interlaced networked gear is along the ocean floor right now, compiling shit for for COMSUBRON? No you don't and neither do I because the USN is secure enough to not have to hype up their own shit to keep morale above zero. Hell, they seem to try and tone down the crazy hijinks DARPA tries to get started.

Get fucked, rice nigger.

>>34157824

>There is no way the US can conter it. They just cant.

A dedicated submarine located much deeper can take it out. You realize America has a massive submarine fleet too, right? It somehow manages to be more expensive than our carriers.

>>34157164
Beats the fuck outta me.

>>34157824
Go away Feng Li and stay gone.

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>>34149525
To what fucking advantage?

>>34158349
Stop ruining our thread you filthy gutter oil gook.

>>34157164
Drive on a small incline

>>34157164
According to that one retard here who keep memeing the Swedish turretless tank, you don't need to.

>>34158441
Of course not. But its been packaged as clean and humane.

>>34158668
VTOL and to be the first hyperprop plane.

>>34157596
FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP

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>>34145244
Project Pluto had a documentary made by the Discovery Channel.
It pretty much sums up what the thing could do. A freight train sized nuclear ramjet engine.
I still think the best fuck you at the end is detonate the last of the 16 nukes with the engine for maximum yield and dirtiest, crowd pleasing fallout.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQGBBsLiP6w&list=PL5o8OlF7bBUy_MEhgsh2TNDXkcmhGSuZT&index=1

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>>34148372

Imagine if this thing with thermonuclear rockets for engines.

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>>34162664
I can imagine greater things

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>Tfw: Literally a handful of these things could wipe out earth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_5CGtLBNvo

>>34163626
>tfw the components were built and tested in my state.

What happened California? You used to be cool.

>>34157824
>datalinking
>underwater

Kek

>using apar
>underwater

Double kek

>assuming you will see the tiny as fuck VLO LRASM coming so you can dive

Kekekek

>assuming all attack subs are assigned to carriers

Kek x4

>>34157824
I see crack smoking is now popular in China as well.

>>34156205
Anyone know source of this art?

>>34149701
>>34149756
>>34155301
This was never constructed or fired. At best it was an actual thought experiment in Soviet era Russia. At worst it's some bullshit someone made up on /k/.

There are no citations or references of this that I can find anywhere that this was ever an actual program or government backed effort.

>>34164434
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Plumbbob

Closest we got.

Still, you are mostly correct. Soviets never touched the concept operationally.

>>34164434
I believe when I requested the info I mentioned that at the very most it was just a few physicists fucking around with some math.

Still, numbers that big are pretty fun. Wish I was smart enough to run em myself.

>>34148474

Thunderbirds are go!

>>34156165

Something you'd ideally want to watch blast off from at least two continents away.

>>34156966

It costs more energy to shoot something into the sun than it does to leave the solar system entirely.

Plus, nuke waste is still useful.

>>34160604
Thanks Friend!

>>34156165
It was called the "BDR" or Big Dumb Rocket. Its essentially a massive single stage to orbit hydrox rocket that would be towed out into the ocean by a carrier group to launch. (Backblast from the engine was so powerful it would destroy the rocket if launched from land).

A carrier would use its nuclear reactors to electrolyse hydrogen and oxygen for its fuel, as the tanks filled it would slowly assume a vertical orientation in the water.

The carrier group would pull back and the thing would launch like a massiveley upscaled version of a sub-surfae to air missile. The ocean would absorb the backblast, and it would go to space.

>>34148854
>>34156165
>>34165700
For scale: it would have been able to move 100 million pounds to orbit.

>>34155651
>several U-boats

Not exactly a war-winner. By 1944 the U-boats were pretty much dead in the water (heh)

>>34145384

Man this shit makes me sad

Dude just wanted to build a huge ass gun it was totally uncalled for to whack him.

>>34150283
>>34150301

That's why we'll be so terrifying once we eventually become like the Terrans in Starcraft, Weyland-Yutani in Alien, or the RDA in Avatar.

At the end of the day, we're still the same warlike humans, only we're now higher-tech space Rhodies/Boers/Vatniks/Redneck Gomer Piles/Wild West Cowboys/Pirates of The Caribbean/Any other time when you mixed warlike white people with bleeding-edge technology and the opportunity to conquer.

>>34166547

These, in a nutshell
>>34157763
>>34158025

>>34157166
Except the effect would have been wiping out an entire megalopolis or two.

My neighbor worked under DARPA for 20 years. He's told me shit years before they came out. You think they're 10 years ahead of everyone else? No.. Not even close. He told me with our technology rate they're 200 years ahead of us. Antimatter even, fusion weapons, particle beams, controlled plasma projectiles, nuclear powered quantum entanglement (long story), Hell, even shit that would give the Nazis a cum soaked mattress. Nanotechnology, mechs, everything. Even skin deep cloaking devices and devices that can make you appear as someone else.

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>>34167101

You didn't believe him I hope?

>>34167101
Having posessed a high clearance job I call bullshit. Guys who talk about shit like that with actual clearances get in deep shit real fast. If your neighbor REEAALLLY had access to tinfoil level shit like that he wouldnt be talking about it with you.

I did some shit with some guys in Iraq for 9 months 6 years ago and I STILL get phone call check in's about twice a year to remind me what I am and am not allowed to chat about and to update my contact info. And my shit wasnt even that fancy. Your neighbor is full of shit and your another gullible idiot with a "guy I know" story.

>>34164197
there is a little arrow pointing right next to the post number. click it and options for image searches will appear

>>34167101
>random words

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Not the superist of weapons, but still pretty goddamn cool

>>34167379
WORDS THAT KILL!!!!

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>>34167101
Mate, if we had even half of that shit we would know about it just from the consumer applications that would come with actually having those technologies. Way too much money could be made with that technology to keep it secret.

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stupid shit like this count?

>>34145384
REX
REX TREMENDAE

>>34167502
JOKES THAT KILL!

>>34167695
>they totally got nanites an shit man
>like they could cure cancer or program em to kill anyone man
>like man, you dont even know man, like they got anti-matter missiles an shit man

Oh? So we got this tech that would turn our nation into THE uncontested global military and industrial superpower for the next 200 years and were just not using it?

>yeah man, they wanna like keep it secret an shit man, cuz like... illuminati and shit man!

Fuckin stupid.

>>34156522
though his body fell, his soul reached escape velocity that day. He hurtles through the aether now, an eternal projectile, killing gods and dreams, traveling ballistic arcs no mortal mind can comprehend.

It only made him stronger.

>>34163037
kek

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>>34145244
The unsinkable aircraft carrier.
Made out of pykrete it was essentially a giant iceberg.

Not sure but even nuclear might have had a problem damaging this unless it detonated real damn close.

I imagine it would have been horrendously slow though, and unable to pass through any of the lock&dam channels.

Kinda more like a floating air force base than a navy vessel.

>>34167101

I can vouch for controlled plasma projectiles.

A friend plopped a science magazine down in front of me over dinner at a cafe and pointed to an article detailing how plasma could be contained in its own magnetic field.

That makes it a projectile, now all you have to do is kick it out of a barrel (likely also an application of magnetics - coilgun linear accelerator will do it)

>>34167695
>>34168244
The reason you don't see it is precisely why. They want to introduce it slowly, and make money on selling you 20 Buggywhips in the meantime.

Not nearly as much money could be made on the new shit if it was released. Its like treating a disease rather than curing it.

Also the people who run places like Darpa dont give a shit about the united states, and neither do the people who they work for. It belongs to another group entirely that operates outside of the nation-level (yet, leaches off of our tax dollars and appears to be a government institution, yknow kinda like how the federal reserve isnt federal at all).
> if they wanted the US to be that strong, we would be. Fact is they have the destruction of this country on their itinerary at some point in the future, or at least the option is left open.

> conspiracy theories aside, when something is classified Need To Know it doesnt matter what clearance level you have, unless you are in on it with a need to know - you will never be told.
> its entirely possible for groups to operate in this manner without leaving a paper trail at all.

So yeah its literally possible you could have extra layers of the NSA that nobody knows about. Various people in the NSA would be leading double lives and going in offices that nobody seems to have a passkey to, so they'd just think that was part of those people's regular (on the books) job when in fact it was all need-to-know access.

>>34170929
Plasma projectiles are not going to happen. Read about Shiva Star. It's extremely inefficient, fuckhuge, and can't even make it to the lowest satellites. Against a terrestrial target, it would splash against RHA, scorch the paint, and maybe heat the metal to a dull red, if that even. It would make the hull give off soft x-rays toward the interior, but the idea is to disable the vehicle and crew, not slightly increase the crew's chance of cancer.

>>34167101
>chrono legionnaires soon.

>>34149210
Sounds pretty based to me.
>tfw I will never know my father.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MARAUDER

>>34157763
>>34158025
The lensman series kind of has this feel if you are bored and want a long read.

Classic scifi space opera stuff.

>>34170929
>have all this spooky science shit
>yet fail to kill castro like 900 times

fuck off you larping jackasses

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>>34157677
I HAVE THE ANSWER
>MARIJUANA BOMB
>THE ATOMIC BONG

>>34166547
Except we are gonna make stuff moar deder Halo style with dope ass armor and 7 and half foot tall super human's with cool armor.

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>>34148317
http://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/spacegunconvent.php
http://toughsf.blogspot.com/2016/06/the-nuclear-spear-casaba-howitzer.html
Apparently you wouldn't even need a Tsar bomba; a 10mgt+ Nuclear EFP will throw it's penetrator at near-relativistic speeds, making it just about unstoppable and uninterceptable

>>34156165
http://www.armaghplanet.com/blog/the-amazing-aldebaran-spacecraft.html

>>34145384
(((this)))

>>34148674
How powerful would the particle beam be, like nuke level or more powerful than that

>>34156205
>ywn get to stand on the edge of an orbital weapons platform and watch as your enemies below burn in a nuclear firestorm

>>34174362
It concentrates 95-98% of the weapons heat, radiation, and light onto a point about .02°

In vaccume it can hit shit at inter-planstary ranges (one in orbit around earth could put an effective amount of energy on target out to mars)

If fired from orbit into atmosphere its a lot weaker because the atmosphere scatters the beam. The guys who made it estimated fired from orbit to a ground target on earth it would have about enough energy to kill a carrier. (By cooking the crew, not catastrophic kill mind you)

So orbit to orbit its very powerful, orbit to ground its highly inefficient, but it carries the benifit that there is near zero delay from detonation to target, so while weaker than a direct nuclear attack if you already got one floating around in space then its almost impossible to shoot down and doesnt carry to 30 to 45 minute deployment time a conventional warhead has. So it could be used tactically against strategic point targets to open up gaps in the enemy's missile defences for traditional nukes to exploit.

>>34173692
It's not an EFP at that point. It's a lance (cone) of hot plasma traveling at an appreciable fraction of the speed of light.