USS Ford accepted by the USN

>>34134458
Sauce, for the few who will doubt.

https://news.usni.org/2017/06/01/25931

>>34134458
I wonder how long these things will be in service, 2070's?

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>>34134458
>all the fucking american steel in that picture
I am so violently erect
>post yfw america has the most, and the largest, aircraft carriers
>and we build even more
>and they're even larger
>and better

Trump said no EMALS, stop lying.

>>34134471
.WWIII ends in 2024. It sank during around the time operation Azure Hook along with the Kennedy

>>34134471
50 year service life, and that is real fucking conservative.

>>34134506
>50 years suggested
>meaning they'll retrofit it to add another 30 years while they come up with a way to create the maximum carrier

>>34134512

There is only going to be potentially four Ford class carriers. It is an intermediary ship like the GWB was for the Ford. It isn't the planned main carrier design for the next century. This is one of the Navy's smarter moves.

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>This whole thread

I must post this before the chink defenders, slavs and other scum start posting

>>34134520
where the fuck is there to go though? what's the next nimitz, if you will?
a goddamn sub-carrier?

>>34134458

OP wait. Didn't Trump literally say no to the EMALs? Did the Navy give him a big fuck you before they could be removed and replaced?

>>34134536
>Didn't Trump literally say no to the EMALs?
I hate to make the comparison, but I swear to god if this motherfucker turns into good old Adolf and the Panzer program I'm gonna have a fucking aneurysm

>>34134544
Someone probably just sat him down and gave him 'the talk'.

>>34134533

The Navy is evaluating the strength of building a ton of America class type ships, and also using the carriers as a sort of floating command center for drones. This would give 24/7 overwatch and a stupid amount of capacity in terms of planes on board.

>>34134556
aren't the americas VTOL only because they're little?
seems a little neutered.
unless you mean that (iirc WW2) era retard carrier that was fucktard huge

>>34134565

America class is huge, but less complex.

>>34134544

http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/a26478/donald-trump-emals-steam-catapult-aircraft-carrier/

He said no to the EMALs right there. Which means this entire class is cucked.

>>34134574
Trump has zero (0) control over components that go on the carriers.

Ford will have EMALS, so will enterprise, so will the JFK.

>>34134556
>>34134533
>>34134520
There are 10 planned ford's with 3 fully funded. Construction will go until the late 2050s.

http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/cvn-21/

>>34134502
Put spoilers on such posts, goddamn.

>>34134585
>The POTUS can't cancel military programs

Lol

>>34134594
Nope. All he could do is not pass funding bills.

The JFK and enterprise are fully funded, and it would cost a metric fuckton to retrofit an entire steam system onto the ship, which would make him look absolutely retarded.

L2 separation of powers.

>>34134605

5D chess

>>34134536

IDK what he said, but the Ford class was designed to use EMALS, so unless he wanted to scrap the whole fucking ship it was always staying on.

Steam launch systems require large boiler rooms and such that take up a lot of space, retrofitting to use them would require a complete redesign.

>>34134614
The constitution is ∞D chess.

>>34134536
Last time I checked the President has little influence on the details of military procurement, and for a good reason too. Would you want Obama to have had full control of it?
Trump can say ehat he wants, but I'm pretty sure the Navy isn't forced to obey, particularly when they have competent engineers who can say "you're wrong, fuck off".

>>34134585
>Construction will go until the late 2050s
>TYOOL 2100
>USS Ford reaching final deployment
>new carrier design in acceptance trials, USS Lexington, armed with lasers, UCAVs, and railguns, semi-submersible stealth design.
>internet spammed with holograms claiming carriers are obsolete and will be sunk by Indian railgun-boat swarms and Eurabian hypersonic missiles
>I, one of the oldest people on the planet, lie back and laugh.
>The more things change, the more they stay the same.

>>34134479
>but there's only one ever active

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/12/30/no-us-carrier-at-sea-leaves-gap-in-middle-east.html

>>34134801
>OH NOES WE HAVE A CARRIER NOT IN THE PERSIAN GULF

>pls ignore the 3 off of best Koreas coast

Kek

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>>34134533
Isn't it obvious?
[spoiler]The Pentagon has literally exressed interest in the idea and formed and "ok how the fuck do we actually do this" project.[/spoiler]

It's actually fairly likely They'd skip that step and just go with LEO carriers and fightercraft/dropships/bombers that can break atmo into suborbital space.

>>34134458

so the navy can finally afford it?

>>34134826
>has 12 carriers
>can't even keep 1 (one) active in an area where you're actually at war

the might of the US navy

>>34134877
you forgetting about csg2, moron?

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>>34134877

>>34134523
I am now erect with patriotism and I'm not even American.

>>34134523
/cringe/

>>34135021
Hello chink defender, slav, or other lesser scum.

>>34135140
t. 60%

fuck off jamel

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>>34134458
>There will be reactive armor.

Damn, why didn't I think of that?
Making modern warships thinner skinned makes applique or reactive armor perfect.

>>34135233
>lesser is upset he is below the dindus

>>34135241
It won't be applique.

TLDR: Turn the inner skin into a giant capacitor. EFP or missile hits? Boom, 100000 niggawatts of electrical explosion

>>34134458
>construction began in 2009

Wew efficiency

>this means all the issues are taken car of
No it does not.

>>34134912
ETA on the LHDs getting their F-35s? Another 5, 10 years?

>>34134458
>Reminder that this ship will outlive anyone able to read this right now. There will be lasers on this class. There will be reactive armor.

why is this a good thing?

The US still operates WW2 carriers. That's how fucking backwards they are

>>34135304
Marines already have one deployed to Japan

>>34135305
>The US still operates WW2 carriers.

>mfw Nimitz are WW2 carriers

>>34135311
Procurement is going better than I thought, so the Second Korean War is going to be the F35's first battleground?

>>34135319
Absolutely. F-22s have been stationed in worst Korea too (might already have transitioned there)

>>34135297
>muh efficiency

FIC. Only a year off schedule, and with all the new shit in it, that's great. Overall the program missed the mark by a mere 5%.

>No it does not.

It certainly does. The navy won't accept broken ships and have rejected ships before.

The entire delay was due to this.

>>34135319
I've always assumed the Israelis would be the first to take the F-35 into combat.

>>34135311
Source?

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>>34135305

>The US still operates WW2 carriers.

What did he mean by this?

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>>34135305
What carrier(s) nigger?

>>34135305
>The US still operates WW2 carriers. That's how fucking backwards they are

Compared to any other military or navy the American equivalent is pretty forward-thinking.

>>34134616
Not to mention miles of bulky, high-pressure insulated pipes running through the ship to supply the steam.

>>34135319
Nah, the plan's for F-35As to deploy to the gulf this summer, so that's where they'll likely be doing the bird's first Warheads to Foreheads.

>>34134458
>shop performed damn well
I mean I know today's carriers are floating cities but still.

>>34135555
What a waste of quads

>>34135305
>The US still operates WW2 carriers. That's how fucking backwards they are
YORKTOWN ISN'T COMMISSIONED
INTREPID ISN'T COMMISSIONED
LEXINGTON ISN'T COMMISSIONED
HORNET ISN'T COMMISSIONED
MIDWAY ISN'T COMMISSIONED
WHERE THE FUCK ARE THESE WWII CVs IN SERVICE?
>>34135297
>Wew efficiency
It's the first ship of a new class, cunt. Built from the keel up to incorporate new tech.
>>34135319
>Second Korean War
FFS the Korean War hasn't ended yet, North Korea and South Korea have just been under ceasefire.
>>34135375
I can only suspect anon was thinking about LHDs and other such flattops.

>>34135305
Lexington(CV-16) was deactivated more than two decades ago.

>>34135547
Will the Sprey posting finally end?

>>34135576
No, they'll just find something new to REEEEEEE about.

>>34135581
Like the Sixth Generation fighter program just now being drawn up?

>>34135576
Never.

>>34135547
>>34135363
http://www.military.com/daily-news/2017/01/10/first-marine-corps-f35-squadron-deploys-japan.html

>>34134458
That's a lot of capital ships in port. Anybody else worried if there's any pearls in that harbor?

>>34135559
>It's the first ship of a new class
American damage control. Hull construction of the Type 001A (China's first homebrew carrier) began in 2015 and it was launched this year.

US Navy is lagging behind.

>>34135651
Except its literally a copy of a Russian failed design, beat out by vintage WWII era carriers for planes carried.

:]

>>34135651
>Hull construction of the Type 001A (China's first homebrew carrier) began in 2015 and it was launched this year
A FUCKING RAAAAAAAAAMP

>>34135576
Until F-35 proves herself, but they will just find something new anyway.

>>34134458
>Reminder that this ship will outlive anyone able to read this right now.
Unless it eats torps from a Norkie SSK

>>34135686
ATTDS

>>34135630
Right, but that's a normal ops deployment, the Gulf will be combat.

>>34135699
>anti-torpedo torpedoes
All of my fuck.

>>34134536
The conversion was someone telling Trump about all the problems EMALS was having and him responding to stick with steam. So while technically he did, it was not in the context of making decisions.

>>34135651
The Type 001A, a ~60k ton ship, took 2 years to build from keel laying to launch.

The last Nimitz, a ~100k ton ship, took 3 years to build from keel laying to launch.

Both were several decade old designs.

>>34134668
massively underrated post. well done anon.

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Emals is fucked. Trump is right.

>>34135667
this

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>>34135305
>The US still operates WW2 carriers.

So basically the following:
>Bunch of Russian high-speed sea skimmers inbound, CBG begins maneuvering and launching interceptors
>Shoot down most of them, carrier is fine, woohoo
>Yasen-class subs fire their torpedoes and sink Gerald Ford class
>oops.jpg

>>34134628
Well Trump is commander in chief and if he really wanted to get rid of the "digital cats", I bet he could

>>34136165
>russians
>fighting the US

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>>34136192
this is the man who got bored and walked away from the Syria question after launching a fucking missile strike against Assad. I wouldn't hold my breath about him coming back for EMALs.

>>34135559

We should recommission Yorktown and Lexington. We can raise them up. We have the technology.

>>34136225
In his defence, he thought he was tomahawking Iraq. The cake he had was apparently great though

>>34136225
>>34136249
He's basically a cat. He needs attention, and will do anything to get it. But it'll be a cold day in hell if he does anything useful.

>>34136225
He is focused on Making America Great Again

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>>34136269

The only thing I ever wanted from Trump was just to protect the conservative advantage on the Supreme Court. Besides that, he's been a pretty ineffectual president, but I don't regret voting for him one bit.

>>34134877
>where you're actually at war

The only declared war we're currently involved in is with N. Korea, iirc. We have 3 carriers in that area. Or were you referring to something else? You'll be better at this once you learn to effectively communicate your thoughts.

>>34136352
I'll remind you though that many of the non-Scalia tier Justices like Roberts still vote for "liberal" decisions pretty regularly.

And that Obama's pick got pretty hefty praise from Republicans in prior appointments but was only refused out of spite.

>>34134523
Please never post this unironically again

The U.S. hasn't been a superpower long enough for its people, all descended from immigrants, to threaten the cradles of civilization.

>>34135297
>Wew efficiency

When it comes to naval vessels, you can do efficient or you can do effective. We chose effective.

Now if your economy is propped up with smoke and mirrors, you might be tempted to go the efficiency route. Things like building naval hulls to commercial specs, and using commercial technologies in naval applications. If you're building a disposable navy, efficient is definitely the way to go.

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when do we build a montana class that just spams RAP nukes/RAP excaliburs and has a shitload of tomahawk cells?
we're getting to gigaships, this needs to happen

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>>34136431
you retards are worse than the people who insist Mechs are the future

>>34136412
Agree. As an American, this sort of shitty behavior and thinking makes us look like piss. It completely disrespects the memory of those Americans entombed in many nations throughout the world that WE fought to preserve their sovereignty, not to enforce American might unilaterally.

>>34136444
it would literally just be a battleship-shaped missile truck

>>34134668
>Eurabian hypersonic missiles

Jej

>>34135651
thats what happens when you have 100,000 gooks stuffed into the hull welding shit, because it only costs 15 rice grains an hour

>>34134853
while helicarriers look cool it seems to me that all you're doing by making a carrier fly is making a great big target even bigger by having it above the sea instead of floating in it.

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>>34134533
TDD-1 Tuatha De Danann when?

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>>34136549
Cute teenage girl captains when?

>>34134479
>american steel
I have bad news for you, anon...

>>34136352
>he's been a pretty ineffectual president

Stop watching CNN.

>>34136594
It must be noted too that she's mainly Captain because she's the Whispered who designed the ship and thus knows its every capability and because of her Black Tech knowledge has an innate understanding of sub warfare.

>>34136616
>Stop watching CNN.
Stop reading Breitbart and name one thing he's actually accomplished that's not been struck down.

>>34136594
Sauce

>>34136663
Seriously? Full Metal Panic: The Second Raid.

Looks good, but for the love of God can we stop naming carriers after shit presidents?

>>34136640
>if he gets blocked he's not doing anything

>>34136684
Well there were no presidents named Enterprise or Kitty Hawk.

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>>34135305
If you don't know what you're talking about, shut up.

>>34136692
He should be researching basic legality. Signing EOs you have no legal power to execute (especially when you've been ragging on the previous President for supposedly doing that at a rate far slower than your own) doesn't count. It's spinning your wheels in the mud.

>>34136393

I'm perfectly aware of both things you just said.

>>3413453
Would it be a carrier that carries subs or a submarine that launches aircraft?

>>34136165
>Yasen-class subs fire their torpedoes
>ATTDS goes active, attendant destroyers barf decoys everywhere
>Los Angeles SSNs go on the hunt

>>34136692
Thanks for agreeing.

>>34136790
Yeah, but a lot of the super diehard Trump voters don't seem to get them.

>>34136535
Which is why you make their escorts air-capable as well. And add more engines, four just aren't enough in terms of redundancies.

>>34136684
>>34136693
>Bull Halsey spins in his grave
>still no capital ships bearing his name
>no William Halsey-class nuclear-powered supercarrier

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>>34136692
>submit complete and utter shit that gets thrown back in your face every single time
>act confused when people say you're getting nothing done

The only things of note Trump has accomplished is reigning back on foreign policy promises.

>>34135651
>American damage control.

Noooo... I think what we're seeing is a desperate Chink attempt to stay relevant.

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>>34134458

Will amphibious warfare ever actually be important again?

>>34135651
>25 cents has been deposited into your account

>>34136693
i meant names like USS GHWB, USS GRF, or USS Carl Vincent. Sure name destroyers after these people but carriers are capital ships and need better names.

>>34136393
Obama's pick was stonewalled because Democrats stonewalled Bush's federal judge picks at the end of his presidency, both sides do it so stop pretending Democrats were victims.

>>34136640
He signed the law preventing the SSA from unilaterally ruling that people with representative payees were mentally incompetent.

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>>34135651
>US Navy is lagging behind

I'll just leave this here...

>>34136640
Do I get to list things like how illegal immigration is drastically down so you can hand wring about it not counting?

>>34136733
>He should be researching basic legality.
The immigration EO's were entirely legal, the ACLU attorney even admitted in testimony that they'd be unquestionably legal if anyone other than Trump issued them.

Arguably leaving the Paris Accords was illegal, but that's mostly because it's obviously a treaty, Obama signed us up without getting Senate approval, and you can't exit something you're actually in.

>>34137158
>Scaring people off, or likely just deeper into hiding, is the same as accomplishing something
>Implying the long-term illegal immigration from Mexico isn't primarily because we made it really hard for them to go home after they come up for seasonal work
>Implying the southern border is a terror insertion point compared to the northern border we have basically no security on or travel visas

>>34137140
>Spain has more aircraft carriers than the entire British Empire
The Armada shall sail again!

>>34137159
>The immigration EO's were entirely legal
They were unconstitutional as fuck, both on the 1st and 14th Amendments. They were blatantly singling out a religious group except from countries he has business interest in.

>>34136733
The travel ban EO is legal, within his authority and has precedent. Now that it has moved to the Supreme Court the activist judge shopping will be put in its place.

>>34137184
>The travel ban EO is legal, within his authority and has precedent.
No, it wasn't.

>>34137140
>40 decommissioned
>2 under construction
>0 in service
What happened to you Britain, I thought the sun never set on your empire.

>>34137182
Except it was not targeting religious groups, unless you want to say the Terrorist Travel Prevention Act of 2015 (signed by Obama) was targeting religious groups.

>>34137182
>there are no coptic, chaldean, or nestorian Christians, Druze, Sufis, Zoroastrians, Jains, or Yazidis in the excluded countries

Cenk plz

>>34137188
Your feelings are not law.

>>34137182
>Trump conspired with the Obama era DHS to select countries as travel threats based on Trump's business activity

Trump derangement syndrome in full effect.

>>34135017

You will be eventually, don't worry.

You all will be.

>>34137216
>>34137217
>>34137243
>Implying Trumps own statements that he was going to block Muslims don't count in determining intent of the EO

>Implying a short-term halt on Visas in response to a specific incident is the same as a blanket ban on all travel, including Citizens, Permanent Residents, and those who've completed the grueling 2-year process of refugee vetting everyone considers the worst way for a terrorist to enter the US

>>34137273
>Hurr durr a short-term visa issuing block is the same as a multinational total travel ban

>>34137182
>>34137188
>“We have a candidate who won the presidency, some candidate other than President Trump won the presidency and then chose to issue this particular order, with whatever counsel he took. Do I understand that just in that circumstance, the executive order should be honored?”
>“Yes, your honor, I think in that case, it could be constitutional.”
-4th Circuit Judge Niemeyer questioning ACLU attorney Jadwat

Unless Trump somehow follows different laws than everyone else in the nation, it was legal.

>>34137307
>Ignoring that the judge did find that the prior statements of the president did in fact stage the intent as unconstitutional

>>34134458
whoa, does it have 4 catapults?

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>>34137292
>2 year vetting process
>in countries that can't account for their own citizens

>>34137342
>I have no idea how intense the vetting process is, but here's my two cents!

It's literally a fucking bureaucratic maze that any mistake will send you back months or years. It's the worst fucking possible way for a terrorist to sneak in.

Besides, the majority of said acts were by US citizens. Predominately white right-wingers. 9/11 was not committed by citizens of any of the ban countries, and were here on travel and student visas.

>>34134458
>Reminder that this ship will outlive anyone able to read this right now.
>implying China won't sink it
dumb gwailo

>>34137406
>Still derping on about your magic missiles that have no way to target the carrier and can be intercepted before going ballistic by SM-3 Block IIa with F-35 targeting

>>34137423
Seriously. It's like nobody has heard of cooperative engagement before. All of China's supposed counter measures don't really mean anything when implimenting them just means painting a target on yourself. USN is like a hydra. Cut off a single head and you only made yourself more vulnerable

>>34137318
Niemeyer dissented.

>>34137292
>Implying Trumps own statements that he was going to block Muslims don't count in determining intent of the EO

They don't, and that is not even addressing how the EO is pretty lackluster as a Muslim ban.

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>>34137382
How are you going to vet people in a country that cannot track or verify the identity of its citizens because of a state of armed radical uprising? Simple question, you could answer it or you could spout more facebook talking points.

Also...consult pic...not seeing oodles of white right-wing pet causes represented there

>>34137471
>Implying that issue hasn't long been solved because, holy shit, it's a FUCKING REFUGEE VISA VETTING PROCESS THAT TAKES 2 YEARS

>Nearly everything below Radical Islam in the attacks list

Also, your source has a bad name: https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/unbiased-america/

>>34137471
He probably thinks the guy who stabbed a bunch of people in Portland was a right wing extremist despite being a Berniebro.

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>>34137505
Are you really that fucking stupid? The "Berniebro" is a blatant lie meant to try to "not ours!" him.

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>>34137528
At the same protest he'd brought a bat to beat liberals with that was confiscated.

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>>34134458
t b h MURRICA army will take anything at this point, they really give zero fuck about flaws because the top brass just want anything that will let them make money on the side.

>>34137551
>Hey guys, I posted the retard image again! Let's watch /k/ climb over each other to correct it!

>>34136246
The 6 billion dollar ship?
FUND IT

>>34137528
>>34137540
I don't care what he is. He is just a violent thug looking for excuses to act crazy.

>>34136246
Unless you mean CV-5 and CV-2, both essex-class carriers are still very much afloat.
Also we only know where CV-5 is.

>>34136866
Bull Halsey should have been hanged after his four-hour pout

and that's not even mentioning his habit of sailing into cyclones and getting people killed

>>34137528
>>34137540
You mean the free speech protest he said he went to with the specific intention of making right wingers look like hypocrites by throwing him out (which they did).

I bet your left wing dead fish wrapper forgot to mention that part.

>>34137528
He's still not right-wing though, he's radically left-wing

>>34137598
>>34137613
>>34137618
>Still trying to disown the "free speech at all costs psycho"

>>34137618
The guy went off about wanting to murder Antifa IN COURT. Stop pretending he isn't yours.

>>34137528
>The "Berniebro" is a blatant lie

Just ignore the stabber's facebook being full of pro Bernie, anti Trump/Hillary stuff.

>>34136928
As an actual thing? Probably not. As a threat? Yes.
The problem with amphib operations is that they require lots of support while being fairly vulnerable in the opening stages. Opposing a landing is fairly simple if enough mobile reserves are ready and slight advanced warning is provided.
What this means for the US however, is that they can use the mere existence of a landing fleet to tie down large quantities of enemy mobile forces (and heavy equipment like artillery and long range missiles, perhaps also strike aviation) to counter any possible landing, which means those forces are not doing anything useful for the enemy. This was proven to a great extent in 91, when Saddam was convinced (thanks to intense disinfo) an amphib landing would happen, thus bringing large forces away from the fortified front line and the desert, where the ground maneuver forces won the war.
(Incidentally there was another effect, which was that the misdirection allowed the USN to play a much greater role than expected. The Iraqi forces massed to counter the landings were camped out within range of many naval weapons in the gulf, including USS Missouri. The Iraqis were less than pleased.)

>>34137666
It sucks to have one of those be a leftist doesn't it.

>>34135290
>no insulator under the water line
>accidentially tap a coral reef
>btfos every fish in a ten mile radius with said 1000000 niggerwatts

>>34134458
So what happens if the Navy DOESN'T accept the Ford?

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>>34137731
>how do I electricity

>>34137734
They provide NNS with a fault list to be fixed and then test it again. Repeat ad infinitum or until someone's budget runs out.

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>>34137681
So all his facebook and twitter posts about wanting to make Trump supporters pay was just some massive after-the-fact-yet-before-the-fact COINTEL rolled-a-natural-20 bluff check?

>any information I don't like is biased
How about this then? Or this coming from a rather noted left-biased sourced: http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2015/jan/08/sally-kohn/kohn-911-right-wing-extremists-killed-more-america/

Please note it doesn't include San Bernadino, Orlando, Chattanooga, or numbers wounded in things like the Boston bombing or UC, Merced in the figuring.

>>34137706
>>34137724
>I'm full of shit, but no way I'm backing down now!

>>34136472
Most likely it wouldn't even be battleship-shaped.

>>34137768
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2017/05/who_is_jeremy_christian_facebo.html
He seems more of a psycho libertarian than anything.

>>34136412
>We're all immigrants
>Therefore the conquest of the USA by third world peasantry is a-ok fantastic

Always gotta play stupid word games huh

>>34137798
>Parroting this nonsense

>>34137182
>They were blatantly singling out a religious group
That DOES NOT MATTER
Foreigners do not have rights, they cannot be discriminated against

>>34137798
>1900 US: “Give me your tired, your poor,
>Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
>The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
>Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me,
>I lift my lamp beside the golden door!”

>2017 US: Fuck you for wanting a better life!

>>34137814
How fucking stupid can you be?
Maybe in 2100 they'll quote kanye west lyrics?

>>34137800
The LAW said no non-white migration
This was only changed in 1965, they also stopped enforcing border control at that point.

It has been a deliberate agenda of the government to dramatically change the demographics of the country

They have also brought the power of the state against anyone opposing "diversity", anyone who wants their business to remain white, anyone who wants to maintain a community, and so on

Theres a reason why the media & liberals will complain more about fucking "racism" than serial killers or spree murderers
This is their agenda, to dispossess us of our country

>>34134574

This article sounds fake as fuck.

>>34137857
>>34137884
>And here we see the modern White supremacist repeating the nonsense given by the stormfront recruiter in order to twist his opinions

>>34137814
Why should we let in people who want to kill us

>>34137779
He was an avowed Bernie and Stein supporter but upon realizing neither could win opted to hop on the Trump band-wagon (as many Bernouts did) as opposed to support the statist Clinton Cartel.

Most of his behavior at Trump related events was, according to Trump supporters, disruptive and counter to the belief of the majority.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZL5-_y9jIY&feature=youtu.be

>>34137814
I agree, we should let in everyone.

It's our burden as white people to take care of all of the lesser races.

>>34137897
And here we see a retarded liberal who is insincere in everything he says, and can only communicate in buzzwords

You would never see a fucking liberal bat an eye at a black complaining about "gentrification"
The supreme court has ruled against redistricting that would not give blacks their own solid blue congressional districts.

Then you fucking leftist traitors wonder why there is such a gaping divide between left/right

>>34136928
Invasions of Australia, Madagascar and the future South China Archipelago.

>>34137908
>opted to hop on the Trump band-wagon
No he isn't, he's just some nutter larping

>>34137904
>Why should we let in people who want to kill us
It's impressive how deep on the propaganda bandwagon you are.

>>34137914
>Not wanting to give people an opportunity instead of "join ISIS or die!"

>>34137918
Awww, did I strike a nerve? Nothing you say is actually true, but hey, it sounds right, doesn't it?

>>34134853
Not possible to build such a monstrosity, thank God

>>34137949
Point, sir.

>>34137814
>2017 US: Reduced vacancies, try again later

>>34137952
>Not wanting to give people an opportunity instead of "join ISIS or die!"

Yes, everyone else in the world only has two choices in life. Join ISIS or die.

>>34137979
In the relevant areas in the terms of this debate, yes.

>>34134458
that's cool

what does it do?

>>34135021
blow it out your ass

>>34137992

A person who would consider joining ISIS in any possible circumstance shouldn't allowed into the country in any possible circumstance.

>>34137952
>Not wanting to give people an opportunity instead of "join ISIS or die!"
If the opposition to ISIS is a minority, we have to be careful about admissions lest we allow avowed enemies of our nation free reign to enter.

If the opposition to ISIS is a majority they can stay in Syria and fix their homeland and we can stop pretending that uprooting people, transporting them to the other side of the world, and depositing them in an alien environment, with an alien language, and alien customs is at all ideal or humane.

There is a place for refugees and it is the neighboring countries.

>>34137952
What do you mean nothing is true? The US was founded to be a white country, it is(was) seen around the world as a white country.

Everyone else is baffled at why the west is handing away their country to foreigners.
You go live the rest of your life in Japan or Korea or Africa, you will ALWAYS be a foreigner there. This is just how the world works, except for the delusional utopian left wing nutters in the west. Try talking to people outside your liberal bubble.

There is a reason the left reserve their anger for people like Trump who go against their insane cults/agendas. There is a reason they will say racism is the worst thing in the world. There is a reason they will deny reality up until the day it kills them.
Their whole purpose relies on the idea that whites never acknowledge they have a Nation or have a right to self-determination or that the government exists to SERVE the Nation(which does NOT mean blacks or anchor babies or non-white immigrants).

Why do you think everyone around the world disrespected Obama? They could see he's not an "American", he's just some black bastard child of a whore.

>>34136444
mechs are the future newfag, /k/ has always believed this

>>34138040
That's the fucking point. They're applying for the refugee visa because they don't want that. How is that hard to understand? Their own government is bombing and gassing them, the rebels have turned fucky because of Russian interference in support of Assad, and the other direction is ISIS.

>>34138044
There is a lot of money to be made in refugee settlement, the liberal women want to sleep with the brown men, and it fits their agenda of importing the maximum possible immigrants while disguising their true goals

It's never been about benefitting the "refugees"

>>34138066
>US is the same as countries built and founded by the people living there thousands of years

>>34138084
>The US is magic because hippies & lefties in the 60's claimed it to be so
>All non-white countries were created by Allah and so non-whites have inherent right to their lands, but not evil fucking whitey!

>>34138074

If we don't let them in, then it doesn't matter if they become terrorists or not. They can't hurt us if we keep them out of the country. If somebody is saying that they'll join a terrorist organization if they aren't allowed in, then that's proof that keeping them out is the correct decision.

>>34138103
>We've been letting in non-whites since forever
>Hurr hippies!
So I guess the massive pre-1900 Asian immigrations never happened?

>>34138109
Nice circular logic there.

>>34138118

>Let me in, or else

No.

>>34138074
I agree with you, it's up to us to shelter every person on the planet that "needs" it.

Seriously though, I'm all for letting them in as long as YOU have to live in the same neighborhood as they do.

>>34138127
The core flaw in your argument is that they likely aren't inclined to terrorism.

But guess what? Women caught by ISIS become sex slaves and their kids get indoctrinated. And if there is a man he's either dead or the family is a hostage to coerce him into playing along. But your argument is literally "they could theoretically become terrorists if they stay so we shouldn't help them out and leave them stuck there so it comes true."

>>34138140
I live in a real city in a meh neighborhood, and work in a bad one. Try it again.

Great navy thread guys.

>>34138066
>They could see he's not an "American", he's just some black bastard child of a whore.
No, they disrespected Obama because he came across as a weak-willed namby pamby with no spine when he couldn't bully people into his politics. And also because the man seems incapable of speaking without sounding condescending.

>>34138079
I know, but if they're going to use a compassion argument we need to argue compassion as well.

>>34138118
>So I guess the massive pre-1900 Asian immigrations never happened?
We literally responded to it by banning Chinese immigration.

>>34138166

>The core flaw in your argument is that they likely aren't inclined to terrorism.

And yet you keep telling us that they'll join ISIS if we don't let him in. If that's true, then we must assume that they are, in fact, very inclined to terrorism.

>>34138170
You live in your parents basement and have never had anything bad happen to you.

>>34138193
this

>>34138193
>Being forced to be under their heel as they indoctrinate your children is the same thing

>>34138218
I have my own apartment, served in the Army for ten years and three deployments, and you're an idiot.

>>34137779
We can see that you are.

>>34138084
>US is the same as countries built and founded by the people living there thousands of years
Italians are not the same as Romans. Anglos are not true britons.

>>34138292
And the US is literally founded by people from everywhere who said "Fuck this place, I'm going somewhere better."

>>34138118
>So I guess the massive pre-1900 Asian immigrations never happened?
?
Massive? You mean a tiny amount that resulted in total bans of asian immigration for decades?
California was a 90% white state in the 60's

But I understand, this is an important part of the fairy tale, that the US has always been "diverse", that we're all immigrants. To rewrite history to support your own marxist agenda.

>>34138118
Most Asians lived in Hawaii.

>>34138304
>And the US is literally founded by people from the UK who said "Fuck this place, I'm going somewhere better."

Fixed that for you.

>>34138355
you mean germany right ?
you know majority of usa population are from germanic descent

>>34138307
>complains about "fairy tales"
>while spouting this nonsense about America always supposed to be white
Jesus fucking christ it sure is /pol/ in here.

>>34138355
>failing this hard at history
It's almost like the 13 colonies were built on top of French, Spanish, Dutch, German, and other colonization efforts, absorbing many of them in the process.

>>34138383
Nonsense?
The immigration law from the founding of the US to 1965 has ALWAYS been about making the US whiter/keeping it white. Whites are the Americans, the blacks were the unfortunate underclass who couldn't be gotten rid of, other non-whites were a negligible number prior to the 60's.
The % of whites in the USA had been increasing up until the post-war utopian fantasies of tolerance/multi-culturalism

I've never heard a leftist complaining about non-whites having their own homogenous nation-states, but to you its a crime for whites to have their own country?

>>34138383
>while spouting this nonsense about America always supposed to be white

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_racial_and_ethnic_demographics_of_the_United_States

>>34138406
There's currently a law that says I'm not allowed to own an AR-15 with a giggle-switch. The thing about laws is that even the best of them often suck at least a little, and statist whores love it when they strip freedoms from some group they hate. So you can go pound that law up your ass along with all the other ones that statist cucks have imposed over the years.

Also... Daily reminder that while the country has been getting less and less white, it's also been getting less and less violent, and more and more prosperous. Reconcile those facts, stormfag.

>>34138431
Meanwhile 75% of all the non-whites whose dick you suck every day vote democrat, and support those gun bans

Fucking libertarians who haven't even figured out your whole ideology is controlled opposition

>>34138383
>>34138406
Even Ted Kennedy, who is responsible for the disastrous immigration bill that started the flood of non-white immigration, promised that it wouldn't change the demographic balance of America.

It wasn't until the Naturalization Act of 1870, during Reconstruction, that niggers could even be naturalized as citizens. Other non-whites were much later

>>34138426
Historical statistics don't prove your point at all, numb nuts. It was more white then, but nothing there proves that America was "always" supposed to be white. The truth about the 60's and what happened wasn't some lefty plot to destroy America with non-whites, but rather the simple fact that Capitalism fucking works!

Europe was blasted to shit during 2 wars, and most people who were going to leave had already left shortly after all the fighting ended. And for many years after everyone who stayed was focused on rebuilding their countries, meaning that other nations throughout the world had the opportunity to fill the hole in the markets that appeared because of this, and the wealth of that export flowed into the pockets of their people, allowing many of them to pull themselves up to the point where they could afford to move to a nation like America, where their economic prosperity would be even more greatly rewarded.

Furthermore, Europe, prior to WW1 and 2, was dominated by monarchies, which as a general trend don't support freedom for the middle-classes all that much. Or rather, the rich and hard working commoner is still valued less than a penniless nobleman, simply because of his bloodline. So what's a rich guy to do? Take his money and move to America, where his drive and ambition are celebrated by society.

After WW2, aside from the Commies, that was pretty much gone. People didn't move out of Europe to get the same upward mobility as some noble asshole. But people in Asia, South America, and other parts of the world certainly did, because frequently their home country was an autocratic shithole, and leaving that for a nation that valued freedom, so that they could better enjoy the fruits of their labor, is something many people did.

>>34138451
It's easier to convince people who are neutral, or anti-gun, to be pro-gun, than it is to teach scum like you basic human decency.

>>34138525
Why are you even on 4chan? Don't you have a bull to be prepping?

>>34138545
>hurr hurr, if you aren't a drooling at the mouth racist, then you must love being a cuck
>tfw even if I was, /pol/fags are still more pathetic

>>34138426
Your citation shows the US was 85-90% non hispanic white until the 1960's when Democrats changed immigration laws for the purpose of importing votes.

>>34138520
A nation is a people, not a country.
Non-whites were explicitly denied entry to the USA prior to 1965

Does Japan need to "prove" they are supposed to be Japanese?
Does Nigeria need to "prove" they are supposed to be Nigerian?
What is your point

Yes there has been the blatant deception all along in pushing this lefty agenda, along with the relentless hatred towards anyone who goes against it.
It is 100% a lefty plot.

You can see they thought that the time had come to be open in their goal of displacing whites from their own country, good thing Trump won or the US would be doomed.

>>34138615
>fuck facts, I'm in it for feels!

>>34138622
> not a racist
>>> I'm in it for feels!
The irony.

>>34138639
>racism is totally logical guis
3edgy6me

>>34138639
>le smart racist man
just because you read some infograph on /pol/, doesn't make you educated

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Could you both kindly fuck off to >>>/pol/ and leave the poor Navy thread alone?

>>34138643
>>34138650
$0.10 has been deposited into your account

>>34137179
>The Armada shall sail again!
Gold post

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>>34138667
>resorting to the CTR meme
Sad.

>>34138622
right back @ u
Why do the kurds deserve an ethno-state
Why the palestinians? Why the Africans?
Are they all racist xenophobes?

>>34138406
>Laws with fucky intents for a certain period mean it was always true!

>We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed, by their Creator, with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness.

>>34138704
All men are equal is a commentary on nobles/peasants, not biological equality.

>>34138615
>A nation is a people, not a country.
And the US has always been "The Melting Pot" the place where everybody comes to join in on the American Dream. That "One Culture" shit is the old world.

>>34138713
And yet it doesn't have any qualifiers there. It just says "all men."

>>34134458

>Armor and lasers

It's a carrier yeah, but at least we're finally moving out of this shitty tin boat doctrine.

>>34138667
>your opinions dont matter, you're just a shill!

Nice argument.

>>34138718
Another JEWISH POET
and the phrase was "MELTING POT OF EUROPEAN RACES"
What is the American dream now? To buy a nice house is a newly built subburb away from all the fucking foreigners flooding in?

>>34138723
Guess not women huh?

>>34138643
Where do you think you are?

How about you prove it illogical?

I don't need to be a racist to know that niggers are a minority and cause nearly half the violent crime in America.

>>34138650
The infograph was here on /k/, not /pol/ :^)

>>34138699
$0.10 has been deposited into your account

> Sad
Back to >>>/leftypol/

>>34138700
A) as far as I know, most of them don't want an "ethnostate".
B) If they do, then yes.

As far as the Kurds go, the fact that people from all over the world flew to their country to help them out, goes a long way to demonstrating that they don't have much of a problem with foreigners. Really their main gripe isn't that noone will give them their "ethnostate", but more that they really are sick of Iraqis, Iranians, and Turks treating them like absolute shit, and in a place as messed up as the Middle East, practically the only way to avoid that kind of treatment is to have partial, if not complete, control of the government.

Also, what kind of retard tries comparing the Middle East to America, like they're anything remotely similar situations?

>>34138766
>goes a long way to demonstrating that they don't have much of a problem with foreigners.

Are they giving them citizenship? A vote in their elections? Welfare?
Are they dramatically reducing their average IQ? Are they shoving them into their schools? Are they promoting race mixing with people who average 20 iq points below them?

But this is what an ethnostate is, most whites are sick of blacks in the USA, imagine how fucking fantastic it would be to live without their scourge

Would that be such a crime?

>>34138756
>How about you prove it illogical?
You're ignoring the fact that there is a huge variety between individuals of practically any group, especially when the grouping is based on an arbitrary criteria such as skin color. Therefore there is nothing logical about making value judgements about someone based on their race/ethnicity, instead of judging them on their merits, like a true believer in the capitalist system should.

Also...
>doubling down on the CTR meming
Pathetic. I was almost tempted to throw the retarded "reddit spacing" meme in your face, but the last thing we need is that stupidity getting popular.

This thread was really not bad until you /pol/ faggots came and ruined it.

More of this please >>34138664. I'm surprised people haven't been talking more about this, it seems more revolutionary than lasers or armor.

>>34138752
Nice job putting words in my mouth.

And why the fuck does it matter if he was Jewish?

>Guess not women huh?
Why try to use this when you don't believe it?

>>34138807
>Are they dramatically reducing their average IQ? Are they shoving them into their schools? Are they promoting race mixing with people who average 20 iq points below them?
Oh fuck off with this tripe back to Stormfront already.

>>34138831
> You're ignoring the fact that there is a huge variety between individuals of practically any group, especially when the grouping is based on an arbitrary criteria such as skin color.

That's a lie.

There is very little, if any, variety between individuals of any group.

You're not a fucking snowflake, dipshit.

And arbitrary to who? The government who does the studies on violence in the first place? Unbelievable.

> Therefore there is nothing logical about making value judgements about someone based on their race/ethnicity, instead of judging them on their merits, like a true believer in the capitalist system should.
>>> no true scotsman
Ha. Guess I'm not a capitalist, then.

This is a lie as well.

>>34138664
>>34138845
This thread was fine until liberals started sperging about Trump.

>>34138807
>Are they giving them citizenship? A vote in their elections? Welfare?
The Kurds don't have a proper government, let alone elections or welfare, idiot.

>But this is what an ethnostate is, most whites are sick of blacks in the USA, imagine how fucking fantastic it would be to live without their scourge
That's your subjective opinion, as there is neither any proof that most whites are "sick of" black people, or that the US would better off without their "scourge". Assholes like you would just find another group of people to whine about, and blame all of society's ills on, and oppress the shit out of anyone who disagrees. Because that's what happens. Every. Fucking. Time.

>Would that be such a crime?
Denying entire groups of people their rights for no good reason (ie: non-felons, and even then there's a case to be made, particularly nonviolent offenders), or even violently exiling them from the nation, because some people won't take kindly to being forced off their property, is most certainly a crime. You can pass laws that say you can, sure, but if you're going to wipe your ass with the Constitution so blatantly you might as well join the gun-grabbers.

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>>34138924
>There is very little, if any, variety between individuals of any group.
You and the movie poster are right I guess. Only a mother could tell these two very similar specimens of the white race apart! More seriously though, the wider you cast the net of the "group", the more variance you're going to find. Families will be similar in many ways, religions will have similar beliefs (setting aside the often wide variety of sects within larger religions) but not necessarily the same race, and so on.

>And arbitrary to who? The government who does the studies on violence in the first place?
Considering none of those studies draw the conclusion that the cause is race, and not any of the other factors involved, that's very arbitrary.

>Ha. Guess I'm not a capitalist, then.
At the very least, you're a statist cuck.

>>34136928
How else are we going to land on the beaches of Normandy to liberate Eurabia?

>>34137731
>he doesnt know what a ground reference is

look at him. look at him and laugh!

>>34135651
This bait is so good I just had to reply.

Well don anon.

>>34135598
IT'S A LEMON
RORORO CHINESE 8TH GEN ALREADY IN THE WORKS CAN GO INTO SPACE AND SHOOT PLASMA BEAMS AND STUFF
IS THE US EVEN TRYING ANYMORE
ALL THEY NEED IS A SPACE CAPABLE F-5 THEY DONT NEEEED RADAR
THIS IS TRUMP'S FAULT SOMEHOW

>>34138877
>And why the fuck does it matter if he was Jewish?

Because they are not of our people, or of our nation. They are a alien group with alien culture, alien religion, alien political views, and they're own value structures.

These jewish poets you quote were not speaking about "America", but about their own fantasies.

>>34138946
>their rights
They are not of our nation or people, they have no "rights" that we are required to respect or uphold
Rights or freedoms are for within a nation! Not a weapon to be used against us.
The founders understood this, why don't you?

>the nation
A NATION IS A PEOPLE
It is not a synonym for country, blacks have never been part of our Nation, and never will.

>because some people won't take kindly to being forced off their property
But when whites are run out of the cities they built because of the "civil rights" movement or because of low income housing, thats just fucking fine?
Segregation was 100% constitutional for 100 years, how can you talk about rights or the constitution when you know nothing of them.

>>34138946
Also how childish can your view of politics be to start calling everyone who disagrees an "asshole"
There is a vast gulf between peoples real views of non-whites and between what the totalitarian police-media state insists is true

>>34138930
>Talking about stupid shit he said about the Ford that was relevant to the thread did it
>Not /pol/ going full stormfront in response

>>34138989
Hell, just between "white" there's big differences between Germanic, Nordic, Gallic, Iberian, Italian, Greek...

>>34139260
>White Supremacism
NOT.
EVEN.
ONCE.

>>34137158
Its been goin down since 08 Mexico will have a bigger middle class than we do soon

>>34139412
no
It is concepts like nationalism, self-determination, self-government, and basic freedoms
The shrieking ad hominem, along with spewing buzzwords in the face of any right wing person says everything needed to be said about the left

>>34139539
>It is concepts like nationalism, self-determination, self-government, and basic freedoms
No, it's violent hate and xenophobia, it's the targeting of "the Other" in order to create a vision of someone who is both lesser than you and a threat. It's a system engineered to capture the weak and fearful into believing they're strong because of their low melanin concentration.

>>34139615
Like all leftists, everything you say is a projection of your own views.

>>34139624
http://www.masslive.com/news/index.ssf/2017/04/former_white_supremacist_chris_1.html

I get it, you can't face your own failings, so you blame everyone else. You can get help and get out of the life.

>>34137179
P L U S U L T R A

>>34139684
Always with the rhetoric, always with the double standards, always with the fucking bullshit propaganda.

Are you even white?

>>34139787
See how his insecurities manifest in demanding to know the melanin level of those he debates when confronted on them by a faceless stranger on the internet?

>>34138946
According to data from Obama's DOJ, if we got rid of blacks our crime rate would instantly drop 40% and gun/violent crime would drop 70%.

So yeah, we would be better off. And that can be backed up by data.

>>34139828
>Hurr genocide is da answer!
Not, you know, fixing the underlying problems like excessive incarceration rates for things like weed that are rendering generations unemployable and institutionalized, right? Not fixing the inherent problems in basing school funding on district property taxes?

>>34139855
Are you an idiot? What about segregation? What about mass deportation?
They are not of our nation, they are not our problem, why are we responsible for them?

Wealth transfers to blacks is in the trillions every year.
Retard liberals like you CREATED the problem in the first place too

>>34139913
Oh eat shit. YOU created the problem with Jim Crow and exclusionary districting, you fucked them over by making sure they lived concentrated in shitty, economically nonviable areas and couldn't get jobs. Welfare isn't the good life, it's bare minimum survival. Stop pretending that it;s not true.

>>34139955
I would have no problem killing ppl like you

>>34136549
>>34136594

Yes to both! when!

>>34139955
And then there's the War on Drugs, started pretty much by Nixon to crack down on blacks and liberals that has created a Prison-Industrial complex dependent on excessive incarceration rates.

>>34139990
And there's the problem. You're not a heroic savior, you're a thug with an inferiority complex.

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>>34139955
You're Canadian, aren't you?

>>34140016
Nope.

>Chart that doesn't actually prove your point
All that shows is that murder is the type of rime where people who know each other have a pretty good likelihood to kill each other.

Also, because away from my desktop:
>Phil getting tarp'd.jpg

>>34140014
Everything I've said would be normal anywhere in the world outside the west, and was normal in the west prior to WW2

You are hopelessly brainwashed to the point where you can't respond to anything I say outside of regurgitating rhetoric/name calling.

>>34140047
Does beg the question though why there is, as a percentage of total population group, so much more of it among blacks than whites.
>inb4 economic disparity
There are, as a total of overall population of the country, more poor whites than blacks.

>>34137182
>They were blatantly singling out a religious group except from countries he has business interest in.
even if that was the case these people are not citizens and therefore not protected by the constitution so it really makes no difference. Of course I wouldn't expect a lefty to understand the constitution. Let me guess only militias have the right to bear arms right?

>>34140071
>Insecure White Supremacist falls back on complete bullshit

>>34140085
Poor whites also tend to be generational rural individuals who have options like hunting and community networks not possible in the urban concentrations poor blacks tend to be in. And guess what! When you pack people together like that without much in resources, they're going to end up having beef far more often!

>>34137779
I don't understand, there are extremists in every group. I happens, that doesn't make the entire group racist or violent. You must hate Muslims.

>>34140106
>Only citizens are protected by the constitution
Not accurate. It's only when citizens are specifically referred that the clause only applies to them. Otherwise "the people" refers to all residents, citizen and non.

By granting Green Cards and visas we are extending legal right to enter and have constitutional protection.

>>34134520
Full. Of. Shit.

>>34140129
>says I'm bullshitting
>Procedes to bullshit about how blacks have no agency or responsibility for their own issues

But what else is new
Learnt all this in college huh?

>>34137814
>1900: We are rapidly industrializing and need a cheap work force and human capital to achieve modernity

>2017: We are thoroughly industrialized however due to widespread unionization, out-sourcing, and automation as well as the rising cost of living not everyone can be allowed to legally enter the U.S. unless they are reasonably likely to be successful.

>>34134616
Actually no, the reactor was originally designed with steam catapults in mind (heavy intermittent steam loads require special design considerations) and the ball was already rolling on the reactor plant by the time the decision to go to EMALs was made. While there would probably have to be some steam plant modification, it's not unlikely that they could be made on a future ship alteration.

>>34136352
I pray he gets 3 more nominatiobs

>>34140188
>and need a cheap work force and human capital to achieve modernity

This has literally never been true... And mass immigration has never been on the scale its been since the 60's.
Whites are a minority among the young in the USA today.

>>34140129
As a percentage of total crimes committed, cloistered urban poor whites still have a far lower rate of homicide and this is longitudinal, the trend has remained relatively static for the last 50 years or since the introduction of the government subsidized welfare system. Interestingly, mixed neighborhoods of working class/poor blacks and whites had a relatively low homicide rate at or just slightly above white poor urban areas.

>>34140218
It's nothing to do with rich/poor, black crime rates are far higher across all spectrums
Rich blacks perform worse than poor whites on standardized testing too

Impossible to argue with anyone who fundamentally denies the existance of human differences.

>>34138192
>No, they disrespected Obama because he came across as a weak-willed namby pamby with no spine when he couldn't bully people into his politics. And also because the man seems incapable of speaking without sounding condescending.
This

>>34138066
White nationalist kys

>>34138118
in order to protect the "native" work forces and due to a healthy dose of genuine xenophobia Chinese immigration was banned. That being said there were a decent amount of issues with immigration from these parts of the country, mobs, lack of cultural awareness, disease, language barriers. However, it wasn't much worse than anything any other group was bringing.

>>34138241
Maybe if there was a significant group of sunni muslims over there willing to fight ISIL we wouldn't have this problem in the first place, but there aren't and we do.

>I have my own apartment, served in the Army for ten years and three deployments, and you're an idiot.
Yeah and I have over 300 confirmed kills.

>>34140240
>Wow those evil xenophobes who want their own country, America belongs to the non-whites!

k

>>34138581
blue on blue retard.

>>34140289
America belongs to Americans, that doesn't mean they have to be white, personally I think people who hold values that aren't western values are all inferior and should be colonized until they are worthy of civilization.

>>34140186
It's the truth, whether you believe it or not.

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Just to clarify, there is no duty or requirement on a nation to permit immigration and as a sovereign state it has full rights to determine what sort of people they may choose to accept or deny entry and/or status too.

When you enter a hose nation you are a guest and your status is subject to their rules. The only thing that is required is that, barring the individual committing some sort of crime, that you be permitted to leave should you not agree with the rules of the house.

Now, MORE CARRIER PORN!

>dat ass

>>34140268
Believe it or don't, I've actually been over there, kid.

>>34140349
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4KnCqcTEOU

>>34140319
> that doesn't mean they have to be white

But of course it does, how could it be any other way?
We are the ones who founded and built this country.

Can you become chinese by moving there? Are expats who have lived in Asia for decades now Asian?
Noone in the west batted an eye when Algerians ethnically cleansed the French who had lived there for hundreds of years.

Yes there is an immense propaganda effort to brainwash people into left wing style thinking.

>>34140349
Look at this guy use "nation" as if its a synonym for country, rewriting the very meaning of words is an important part of the leftist agenda. Thats how they control minds

>>34140406
>Look at this guy use "nation" as if its a synonym for country, rewriting the very meaning of words is an important part of the leftist agenda.
>He says, trying to force his White Supremacist definitions upon us

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>>34140359
Stop, I can only get so erect.

>EMALS Confirmed
pic related

>>34136412

Oh? How long must a nation be a superpower to be 'permitted' to threaten the cradles of civilization?

Germany was only 40 years old at the outbreak of World War 1. 68 Years out at the outbreak of WW2. The Soviet Union was only 25 years old when she and the United States (about 8 times her age at this point) nearly destroyed the world in a disagreement over economic systems.

It is delusion to think the maturity of a nation has any impact on one's ability to be a threat.

>>34136693
Someone hasn't read my fanfic.

>"S-s-s-she has 8 Nuclear Reactors, senpai. EIGHT!!!

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>>34140571
Is she a great big fat person?

>>34135304
Hopefully never. F35 blows ass.

>>34140661
>Spreyfags ruin another thread
>implying it wasn't already ruined

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>>34140661

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>>34136165
Mandatory canned response.

>>34136803
A space station that fires massive subs into water or massive tungsten rods onto land. Those subs then launch missiles that are either nukes or carry dozens upon dozens of mid-size drones of various roles. One of those roles is also 'missile'.

>>34140359
Former deck rat I drink with was recently describing that maneuver with a full deck of planes. Sounds insane but a good way to avoid precise detection.

>>34140856
It's not like you can hide a satellite, either.

>>34136036
>ITT : Enlisted sailors think they know shit about engineering an experimental launch system

go swab the fucking deck, paint some rust or fuck a bunkmate faggot sailor. you know shit, I dont care if you are actively training launch systems

Engineering is a process. You will always encounter failures before the system goes operational.

Don't pretend to "know" that EMALS is hopeless and will never enter regular service.

> Aircrew that think stealth is a gimmick because everyone else nods their head at such a ridiculous suggestion.

I swear to fucking christ, enlisted window licking faggots... they never stop with this pseudo-technical analysis.

All combined, your crew doesnt have the brainpower to understand shit about hard science. From the nukes down, you know what you're told to know, and that is going to be your lot in life. accept it.

>>34141000

witnessed

>>34141000
No one thinks stealth is a gimmick. Modern naval warfare is all about detection.

>>34141533
Well, some do but it's the krokodil talking.

>>34140214

He'll get at the minimum 2 more

>>34137528
So the guy was larping on his own Facebook page? Okay then.

>>34142570
That part of the thread was over 6 hours ago.

>>34138166
If this is the case, why did Obama support the rebels? Seems to me, Assad and Russia would be able to wipe ISIS out if they weren't trying to keep Damascus from falling to "muh moderate beheaders of 13 year old boys". None of which would've happened, by the way, if Biden hadn't completely fucked up the status of forces agreement talks.

>>34138431
>less and less violent
Implying the end of the crack cocaine epidemic of the 90s hasn't nothing to do with this

>more and more prosperous
For who? The shrinking middle class who have had stagnant wages for decades? Why is entitlement spending higher than it has ever been if the USA is so prosperous?