Decisions thread.

>>34116079
Do it. Favorite handgun I own.

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>>34116083
Here's my current collection, selling the SR9 to help pay for this because I don't like it.

I could also get,

>PSA 47
>S&W Model 629 4"
>A new Fullsized Wonder 9
>A 45/70 Marlin in Stainless

Oh and I'm out of state for the entire summer; so in order to buy a handgun I'd need to wait until august.

>>34116079
Standard GP100 here
Love it
Full length underlug

>>34116093
It's well worth the wait.

>>34116108
Any GP100 is the best revolver for the money right now.

>>34116108
Way to unrefined for my tastes

>>34116600
Do you enjoy coffee passed through the digestive tracts of tree cats?

>>34116600
*too

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>>34116079
No handguns here, why not go for the objectively more aesthetic security 6?

>>34116622
Its not in production op would need to find one used they dont pop up super often either.

>>34116622
Because they're all used at this point, and the frame isn't as beefy, also, less features.

>>34116618
I'm drunk

>>34116622
Is aesthetics is your only concern maybe. The GP100 is better made, from better materials and has more aftermarket support and is not much cheaper. In short why pay 3/4 to 4/5ths the same money for a 30-40 yr old gun when you can have a new or nearly new GP100 that will reliably eat full power magnums every day for the rest of your life?

>>34116635
You forgot to read the nohandguns part.

I asked /k/ a few days ago in a revolver thread whether I should get a 586 or service six. I bought both....

>>34116632
>I'm drunk
*intoxicated

>>34116079
I wouldn't bother with the Match Champion. It's what, lightened? Had some shit shaved off to make it uglier, and some tacky roll marks added that scream faggot supreme. Oh and a trigger job, big woop.

>>34116622
Because tripfags have ruined k.

>>34118227
That's literally all subjective and less weight is a good thing for people that use their guns

>>34116653
Post pics.

>>34116635
The main reason that the DA Six line was discontinued in favor of the GP100 was because the GP100 was significantly cheaper for Ruger to manufacture, which is apparent if you ever compare the two guns side by side. I don't doubt that the GP100 is, on paper, a stronger gun simply by virtue of being larger, but whether it's actually stronger in real terms is questionable. You would likely need to shoot literally tens of thousands of full power .357s to see any kind of difference.

That being said, I don't disagree with what you say about the GP100 being a better choice. The biggest strike against buying a DA Six today is that Ruger no longer offers factory support for them. They will take your gun on exchange and sell you a new GP100 at a hefty discount if it has a problem, but that's all.

For 750 you could get a 686 plus and have 7 shots baka

>>34118897
And a hillary hole. Fuck new mfg S&W revolvers.

>>34118951
>And a hillary hole. Fuck new mfg S&W revolvers.
IDGAF good, no great guns
look at you, anon tub of goo
acting like you know what its like
to be a gun manufacturer
and have to whine and dine
libtard politicians
just shut the fuck up about the
stupid lock and be glad we
still have guns no matter
what concessions are made
in an attempt to keep them

>>34118969
I will never accept the cuck hole as the new normal. I may be the old guy yelling at clouds. IDGAF. Fuck new mfg S&W revolvers.

USP45 Tactical or Mk23 for range fun? I'm not sure if meme power is worth the extra price and comically impractical size.
Also, MP5 clone or Uzi for 70-80s a e s t h e t i c s?

>>34118996
your loss is based on your
complete inability to know
what s&w was facing from
libtard politicians
enjoy being a crotchety
old fudd and asshole

>>34118996
I second this guy's opinion. There is no reason to buy any revolver that has the internal lock when credible alternatives exist, AND, in the event that S&W ever removes the lock from their new production guns, the schmucks who bought an IL revolver will see their guns lose massive amounts of value overnight.

>>34119025
I know that at the time S&W was run by Brits. The British are born cucks. They gave in to big daddy government without a fight. No legislation was passed. They just shit themselves at the idea it could possibly maybe in the right timeline be thought about by someone.

Fuck them.

The backlash from gun owners PRE INTERNET was like a fucking tsunami of hate. In the end those British fucktards had to sell one of the greatest names in American gun manufacturing to a fucking lock company for $15 mil. Said lock company tried to put on the "oh we love 2A" face but left the locks in the guns.

Fuck them.

All you youngfags have to realize there are no inches to give to the anti-2A movement. Every one of you fucks that buys a S&W with a hillary hole endorses the idea that you are not responsible enough to own a gun without "for the children" features. And you fucking pay for the privelege to be cucked. S&W is a shadow of their former self. They are basically Taurus with slightly better QC but brandfags who base their self-worth on their possessions and pay lip service to the 2A while supporting a cuck company keep buying their shit.

Fuck them and fuck new mfg S&W revolvers.

>>34116632
>diluting your senses
>not remaining constantly sober to better build a refined viewpoint even in the darkest and brightest of times
Pleb

>>34116614
Hello, fellow Guiness Book of World Records reader

686 SSR is superior to the match champion gp100 in every way.

>>34119174
Except you can own it secure in the knowledge that if some kid picks it up while you're not around Darwin won't be cheated out of a righteous kill by some fucking lock.

>>34119189
I have a lock delete on mine ;)

I also own a match champion, and the ssr is better in everyway. It points better, the chamfering on the charge holes is better, and the trigger is miles better

>>34119217

We can still hang out if you bought it used otherwise I'm gonna have to ask you to exit the clubhouse and relinquish your credentials to to concierge.

>>34119267
Bought them both used for $550.

>>34119189
>le lock meme

I want reddit to leave

>>34116622
Because it's ugly and has a stupid name.

>>34118999
Mark 23
MP5 clone

>>34116079
Im ready to to grab my first hand gun so far I tried a ruger 9mm, glock 43, and a m1911. They all felt pretty nice in the hand. Could I just choose at random and be happy?

what's /k/ recommendation on a .357 revolver?

I ain't getting a fucking Taurus either

>>34120741
>1911

Confirmed for gun noob

>>34120751
Prelock smith. If you shop around you should be able to find a clean one for sub $500.

>>34120741
What's the gun for? Home defense, range, carry, all of the above?

>>34120752
>grab my first hand gun
gee what gave me away. Also that just what the tag on it said

>>34116079
Fucking do it. Still kinda regret not picking one up when it popped up on armslist. It would be my next revolver, but since my next revolver purchase may not be for a while im seriously considering waiting for the inevitable 4" version of their new 8 shot .357. 8 shot revolvers make me hard.

>>34116622
TBQH id consider that to be a tossup

>both stainless half underlug masterace
>MC has Slabside brand Slabside aesthetics but grosstastic MATCH CHAMPION on side

When i look at a GP100 MC I see a beefed up, modernized, slightly tuned 4" security six and i fucking like that.

>>34119141
Easy to tell who's straight edge:

They'll tell you about it.

This conveniently also explains why they're straight edge. They're desperate attention whores seeking a sense of identity.

>>34120772
Home defense

>>34116079
Don't buy a cast revolver.

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>>34118594

>>34120751
GP100 or if you want something more svelte the SP101 5-shot with 4"bbl.

>>34120741
yea until you see something your hind brain desides looks more comfy or better for some task. then the innate weapons race craving part of your brain kicks back in wanting you to be the monkey with the biggest stick on the block.

Id recommend taking a little time and looking around, it's best to visit a gun range that allows rentals if you can.

>>34120784
Glock 17/19 with a 33rd extendo.

>>34120795
Smith is a better gun overall.

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>>34120793

>>34120792
Protip: when it comes to gun steel strength is almost entirely determined by composition and final heat treat. Cast vs forged is a meme argument that only matters when talking about companies with shit QC

>>34119174
>200 dollars more expensive and has a Hillary hole

Yeah nah

>>34120741
Well what do you intend on using it for? That's how we can help you since all of those have different uses.

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>>34120833

>>34120772
>Prelock smith.

This is not really good advice anymore for someone looking for a shooter and not a collectible. Either you're going to buy one in really nice shape for collector-tier money and then degrade it's collector value by using it or you're gonna buy one that's not as nice, maybe is worn out or close to it and still pay almost what you would for a new mfg gun. There are still deals to be had in the pre-lock world but there's also problems you won't face with a new gun.

And never fucking ever buy a used revolver off of gunbroker if it's sold AS-IS.

>>34120815
>Smith is a better gun overall.

Outside of their performance center guns and some of the exotic materials models they use the same materials and processes as Taurus. They just have slightly better QC. I understand brand fags are gonna brand fag just be honest about it yankeemarshall.

If I was in the market for a .357 I'd get some form of Ruger. Built like a fucking tank and doesn't have that faggot ass lock.

>>34120853
>b-b-but muh production values
>b-b-but muh quality control and muh gun lock

Holy shit, anti-SW shills on suicide watch

>>34120846
> Much better out of the box trigger
> Forged Frame
> Lighter weight
> Better fit, finish, etc.

Yeah, owning both, and shooting a couple thousand rounds through each, I think i'm qualified to say the SSR is better.

>>34120987
>only two of those would objectively be considered pros

Most of the reviews i've seen seemed to think the triggers were very close or even a toss up, everyone seems to agree that the SSR has nicer fit/finish though. Questions whether it's 200 bucks nicer...

>>34120918
Believe it or not but there was a time when Colt double action revolvers were just like every other used gun in the case. I can remember in the 80s, when all the LEOs were transitioning to autos, my LGS had a 20'x50' wall full of hangers with DA revolvers stacked 3-4 deep.

For along time those colts were just affordable shooters. Then as it got farther and farther out from when production stopped they transitioned into collector's pieces. Now even bad examples command a premium that it makes no sense to pay if you are looking for a shooter. That day is just about here for pre-lock smith's as well.

>>34121020
I have never owned a revolver that I didn't do a trigger job on(mainly just polishing maybe lighter springs in some guns) so out of the box trigger doesn't mean shit to me. At the prices they sell entry and mid-level guns for you are not going to get the finishing that makes a great trigger from the factory unless you go with a high-end or semi-custom gun.

>>34121022
What happens when the Smith Lock versions become rare?

>>34121090
They won't ever be "rare" like some of the really early guns are "rare". shit there are a fuckton of Colt Pythons out there but they still are stupid expensive because people see them as having collectible/investment value. You can already see this phenomenon with LNIB or very good condition pre-lock smiths.

What will happen over time to pre-lock smiths is what has already happened with Colt revolvers. Their perceived collectibility/investment value will exceed the threshold of someone looking for a gun to actually USE.

>>34116079
OP
Hey.
OP
Seriously.
OP
Get an eight-round .357 Magnum 2.75" Ruger Redhawk; that's what I'm going to buy next (maybe).

>>34121154
>.357 mag
>less than 4" barrel
Just say no.

Remember kids, only you can stop forest fires.

>>34120837
>Protip: when it comes to gun steel strength is almost entirely determined by composition and final heat treat. Cast vs forged is a meme argument that only matters when talking about companies with shit QC

-t. Shitty revolver owner


Whatever you say, poorfag.

>>34120837
>what is science

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>>34120792
>>34121212
>>34121219
How often have you heard of a frame from either company breaking, especially Ruger? It could not possibly matter less whether or not a revolver frame is forged or investment cast, as long as the quality control is there. It's especially humorous seeing S&W shills still making a big deal about this in 2017 when the internals of the antiquated Smith designs have been MIM since the fucking 90s - old world craftsmanship right there!

>>34120908
>buying a lock gun

Just buy a prelock senpai. Far superior to rugers.

>>34121554

Ruger internals are mim as well. Whats your point?

I've broken a GP100 and had to ship it back because the timing was so fucked. Am I gonna stop supporting Ruger?

No.

But i'd still take a Smith any day of the week as they are simply nicer guns. If you have a problem with either company they will send you an RMA and get it fixed right. No biggie.

The shills on both sides need to calm the fuck down and buy one of both. Be glad you have options you limey cunts.

>>34120853
You're not looking hard enough. I've bought plenty of prelocks sub $500. Great shooters.

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>>34120853
Here's a super tight pre-lock .357 I got for $220.

>>34116600
Of course we got a guy like you here. It's not a korth, it's not any good. Fuck off.

>>34121212
>>34121219
what is samefagging for 500, alex? Maybe go ask a materials scientist or something.

>INB4 someone posts a link to that study comparing cast iron vs forged steel strength payed for and made by a company who only sells forged steel

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I'm thinking of the following as a next major purchase, being a poorfag and all:

>Glock 17 or 19, to use as a spare/training double to my carry 19
>Threaded barrel and fitting for my CZ SP-01, or my H&K USP45, since I have a Silencerco Osprey on a pending for 4 and nothing to use it for yet
>A Surefire X400 Ultra, Surefire M600 Scout, or both, to tool up the USP45 to be the most tacticool pistol I own, and the M4gery I have, respectively
>Holsters to go on my RTI stuff for my SP-01 and USP
>A shitload of ammo for practice

My brain tells me to get the last choice, but I don't know wat do.

Ruger with factory surface rust to stay on topic about Rugers.

>>34121719
>Ruger internals are mim as well. Whats your point?
My point is retards are still to this day making a huge deal about which process is used to manufacture literally the least problematic part of these revolvers and then just completely ignoring everything else. It is just such a stupid fucking debate.

And yeah, Ruger finally began using some MIM in their revolvers back in like 2011. They're still a more durable design, but if someone simply likes Smiths more then that's fine. I will concede they're generally nicer looking, and I prefer their full grip frames but it's not enough to make me a S&W guy. Just fuck off with the fallacious LOL CAST POT METAL bullshit, please.

>>34121743
>>34121774
Where

>>34121805
Given that most heat treatments are going to do a pretty good job of erasing grain structure, they should be pretty similar.
The reason forged parts are typically stronger is grain flow as material is pressed between dies. Concievably, a part that's heat treated and finished with a few small cold forging operations could be stronger than the same exact steel just cast. Cast microstructure is absolute shit and is a little more difficult to erase without some kind of hot work.

That said, in comparing the guns it's probably 99% a meme and any normal amount of use isn't going to show a huge difference since most products are engineered with ~1.5 or better factor of safety.

>>34120688
Care to explain?
Is the longer barrel really worth an extra 70% of the price?

>>34121554
>t's especially humorous seeing S&W shills still making a big deal about this in 2017 when the internals of the antiquated Smith designs have been MIM since the fucking 90s - old world craftsmanship right there!

When did I mention S&W? Sounds like your argument is going to ask the wizard for a brain.

Wanna get an AR for "HD/muh SHTF" I already have a G19 and a G43.

Or should I just get a mossy 500/590 or a 870 and tacticool it? That would be cheaper right? I am just scared to short-stroke it in a high stress (home defense) situation

>>34122104
Pretty much my point tbqh, it's true that shittastic(no qc or final heat treat) forged steel is notably stronger and more reliable than cast steel. But when it comes to modern quality cast steel vs forged steel the practical differences are going to be negligible or almost even non-existent.

not to get all argreeing with you or anything

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>>34121805
>what is samefagging for 500, alex?
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

>>34122228
Short stroking is a legitimate concern and can happen to even the most experienced pump gun users. Not to suggest that semi-autos don't experience their own malfunctions or anything.

I'd honestly recommend an alright quality AR over a 12g for HD to anybody who isn't looking for a do anything gun. They can even produce similar wound volumes(if thats your thing) with good fragmenting rounds, although these days most serious users have turned to expanding rounds. Considering the reduced recoil, increased capacity, increased range, and increased precision they're capable of there's very little reason to get a 12g for HD outside of it making your peepee hard.

>>34122228
Any of those would be fine - don't know what you mean by "tacticooling" though. A light might be a good idea, but that's it. Personally I'd be more worried about NDing those Glocks of yours than short stroking a shotgun...

>>34121857
>LOL CAST POT METAL

No one said that.

>>34122022
LGS, armslist. I just shop around.

>>34122277
So is a M&P 15 acceptable as mid quality? /arg/ (lol) says "you gotta build bro" which I don't know if I want to do, I would wanna replace the furniture on the M&P so I could put a light though.

>>34122278
>"tacticooling"
Probably would be just a light and shell holder

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Does anyone here have any experience with the sig p225-A1? How reliable is it, how often will it fail? Is it good for every day carry? It's the first modern handgun I think I've fallen in love with in terms of looks.

>>34122304
Yep, im not an arfag or anything but ive got more than a passing familiarity with the platform. Ruger, S&W, and PSA all offer very cheap and acceptable quality ARs. Personally id get one of those as a starter and then if you really decide you like the platform you're free to invest in a higher quality upper and sell your factory one on armslist or w/e once the prices go back up to recoup costs

>>34122304
M&P15 will do you fine. Grab a vortex red dot and a TLR-1 Long gun kit and you'll be set.

>>34122331
That's a big gun to be carrying everyday.
>4u

>>34122331
Despite what the neighmemers might say sigs in general are fine. I've no personal experience with the P225 specifically but frankly all of the rest of the P-series are fine and there's no reason to be suspicious of them in particular.

Honestly I don't think sig offers the best of anything, or a particularly good price to value ratio so i stay clear of them for the most part. You should be aware that sigs do require somewhat special lubrication though, at least according to sig armorers.

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talk me out of buying a 92fs brig inox

>>34122192
It may or may not be worth it to you. My next handgun purchase will be a Mark 23 because I always wanted one. USP45 tactical are cool and all, but I really want a Mark 23. I like that the barrel is an inch longer and the fact that the location that the sights are on is raised so that you can use normal height sights and still be able to see over the suppressor. I like trijicon HDs so I might put a set of those on and I don't think they're available in suppressor height. The Mark 23 fits perfectly in my hand and points very naturally for me. Loaded it feels about the same weight as a loaded 1911. They are also good for making people who say "my USP tactical or FNX DOES THE SAME THING BETTER" (if you own one of these don't get offended, I like them too) get really butthurt. The USP tactical is still an exelent choice and it doesn't get much better as far as handguns go than the USP series. Note: this is all opinion and only applies to me.

>>34122396
>Honestly I don't think sig offers the best of anything, or a particularly good price to value ratio so i stay clear of them for the most part. You should be aware that sigs do require somewhat special lubrication though, at least according to sig armorers.

I have a bunch and have been using Lubriplate 000 grease for years without issue. SIG or HK are generally my go to brands since they always seem to work. I have an old P225 but it's not the A1.

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>>34122331
I am not a fan. I have a couple of originals, and they are much better overall IMO.

>>34122396
They don't necessarily require special lube. Just grease on the rails which should be done with all alloy frame guns to prolong life.

>>34116093
why no like sr9?

>>34122808
Because beyond being thin it does nothing particularly well?

I have a 9e that is reliable, and generally a decent gun, but I wouldn't pick one over anything comparable ever again.

>>34122833
its not a glock

>>34122896
Glocks are in the same category as the SR9 IMO. Reliable, nothing really wrong with them, but there are guns that do everything better.

>>34122907
whats your preferred handgun in that price range?

>>34122979
M&P9, it's way better than any Glock or Sig

>>34122996
I would second that statement. With an Apex trigger it's a wonderful gun.

>>34122996
I would go with the Walther PPQ. It fits me better than all of the above listed, it is more reliable than the SR9, and the trigger is miles better than the competition.

>>34123084
This comment was meant for >>34122979

>>34123084
Seconding this.

>>34116093
>remmy 1100
you buy any o-rings yet?

>>34123084

for maximum reliability,buy a makarov.

>>34123169
Jesus christ, is it summer already?

>>34121154
>OP
>Hey.
>OP
>Seriously.
>OP
Don't post like this again, faggot.

>>34123169
>implying PPQs aren't more reliable than maks

>>34123169
A Makarov?
Great bait.

Looking for a rifle for an Elk hunt in the future. I really like the idea of .300 Win Mag, but also willing to rethink that as long as it isn't massive amounts of recoil for no benefit. This will be the largest caliber I own, and I would obviously prefer it to be accurate at distance. Don't want to gut shot and chase all day.

>>34116079
Well, if you don't already have GP-100 in stainless and 4" barrel, then get it.

I want one bad myself, but I already own a standard GP100 4" in stainless. My practical mind is saying no, but then again...temptation.

I know lot's of people like the wood grips and they are very fine, but if I got one tomorrow, I'd also buy the old school ruge rubber grips with wood panels...feels better in my hand and doesn't catch on clothing as much at the full rubber Hogue grips.

>>34123724
>>34123724
I second this. However, I recently picked up a used 5" gp100, and it's sex.
My next purchase is to get some quality wood grips for it

>>34119136
Preach brother. I fucking hate Brits. Rothschild owned shit island.

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>>34122104
From an engineering stand point, structural design is a much bigger factor than cast vs forged properties. Forging metal is only really important when elasticity is important, like with a sword for example. For revolvers you are designing a static structure for taking repeat shock loads, which depends on ultimate tensile strength (Su). The difference between cast a forged steel Su is almost nonexistant.

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>>34124254
Compare with cast iron Su

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>>34118969
>"concessions are made in an attempt to keep them"
This picture should help you understand why your views make you a cuck and a moron in this instance. You're probably a smart guy, but >>34119136 is right- don't budge an inch. They haven't given us anything in return for what we've given up so far. Besides that, once you give the government anything- especially power- it is near impossible for future generations to get it back.
Don't trust the government so easily with your rights.

>>34123169
>not a Thompson/Center pistol

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Any one of these.

>>34125033
damn these are ugly

>>34123137
Where in that pic do you see a Remington?

>>34125298

Lets see your ugly ass glock

>>34116079
They're good. Do it.

>>34116108
Full underlugs are a tired meme, everyone tries for Python aesthetics but it's so overdone.

>>34116614
>>34118969
What's wrong with wanting a nicer gun?

>>34121799
Why do you type and format like a fucking retard?

>>34116622
Maybe he wants a new gun?
I like the Security Six a lot but there are other options out there.

>>34120680
YOU are ugly and have a stupid name!

>>34116635
The Security Six is really incredibly strong though, it won't flinch at the hot stuff.

>>34127291
>What's wrong with wanting a nicer gun?
Nothing, it's just that S&W's aren't really any nicer from a manufacturing standpoint. If you want a nice revolver, get one of those new Nighthawk-branded Korths.

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>>34118227
>lighter (good)
>nicer trigger
>comes with fancy wood grips
>has a 4" half-lugged barrel (sexy!)
>available with Novak style combat sights with fiber rods, as well as adjustable target sights
It really is a pretty nice deal considering it really isn't especially expensive, it's certainly worth paying that extra for if you want these things.

>>34127335
I swapped those replies up, I called the guy with the weird formatting a retard.

I'm saying there is a real appeal with the Match Champion over the regular GP100 and for those who want what it provides.
Anon wants the Match Champion and doesn't want the regular GP100 because he likes how the Match Champion is a bit more refined.

>>34125033
What's the one on the bottom?
On phone so can't see the marks on it

>>34127524
Regular GP100

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Really thinking about grabbing this guy. It got picked up by the military for a reason right.

>>34116079
I have 400 dollars. What should I buy?

I dont care what it is, handgun/rifle/shotgun. I just want the best gun for 400 dollars. Opinions?

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Been looking to pick up a leveraction in 357 or a pistol caliber carbine. Found these used in a pawn shop. Decent for the prices or keep looking and buy online?

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>>34129934
This, less interested in.

>>34122417
The inox version looks like a nigger gun

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>>34120751
Don't go snubbie in .357. Just a waste. If you need high concealability, get a different gun.

>>34130034
Or if you do get one, just load it with good .38 Spl +P ammo. A .357 snub is basically just a harsh recoiling 5 or 6 shot 9mm with skull-splitting muzzle blast. Not worth it at all, as said.

>>34122417
No.

>>34130010
You look like a nigger.

>>34129934
Anyone with thoughts on this?

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>>34126291
I don't own a Glock.

>>34129237
What do you have already?

>>34127884
It got picked up by the military partially due to budget constraints. It's a serviceable handgun no doubt, but there are better guns at it's price point, like the M&P.

>inb4 sig hater
I carry a Sig every day.

>>34122665
>I am not a fan. I have a couple of originals, and they are much better overall IMO.
Bullshit. You can't change the hammer spring without causing light strikes. The new ones aren't stuck with the same issue.

I'm looking for a new handgun. Kinda thinking either p30 or tp9sfx or a SIG 10mm. What should I get?

>>34131400
10mm sig

>>34131400
Are you baiting or being sarcastic?
If neither get a P30.

>>34131415
I can't find much info on them. Can I get one in the elite model with the big beaver tail?
>>34131441
For serious, bro.

>>34131498
Then why mention tp9?

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>>34116079
I have one 9/10 would buy again
Thinking about getting a cylinder milled out to take moon clips and sending the gun in so the sides of the barrel milled down a tiny bit to remove that stupid GP100 COPYRIGHT LOGO laser engraving.

>>34131520
Yesterday I bought a P290rs. Today I ordered a P320 X5 and a Ruger American.

I want all three I mentioned and will get them eventually. Which one should I buy next? Or something else I don't know I want yet?

>>34131563
I own a P30 and think it's great.

>>34131580
>I own a P30 and think it's great.
Do you have a regular or long? Standard trigger or LEM?

I'm leaning toward a P30L if I get one. I have a lot of long pistols.

>>34118969
>t. Vogon

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Trying to decide on a longslide 9mm for competition. Mainly considering Glock 34, M&P9 Pro, and FNS 9L. Any other recommendations?

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>>34131599
Mine is
>>34131269
Standard length with LEM. Honestly if I wanted a longer HK I'd get a USP or a Mark 23(hopefully picking one up this year).

>>34131346
Very wrong my dude. The standard P225 has a trigger that feels like any other P series. The nickel gun in the image is sporting a lighter main spring, and has no reliability issues what soever. The P6 has a much stiffer pull, but the one in that picture has a standard P225 spring in it currently.

Also, the old guns are much better built. I have over a dozen Sig's and don't hate on Exeter Sig's as much as most. But the old P225's have a finer action, and in my experience feel like they have better fitting than the new guns. YMMV.

>>34118999
USP Match and MP5

>>34132044
As a P225 owner I don't believe you and my comment stands. The forums wouldn't be full of people complaining about it if it wasn't an issue.

>>34130986
A 9mm and a 10mm handgun.
.44mag revolver
12 and 20ga hunting shotguns.
A bunch of bolt action rifles in various hunting calibers.
AR 15.
Grandpa's old 22.

I dont really care if its the same type of gun as any of those. I just want what you guys think is the best value of firearm for 400 or under.

I'd rather not do milsurp, but I'm open to opinions.