Europe first

europe doesn't have societies capable of waging war anymore. Without the US they have no military relevance.

Europe can use economic power and wage war via sending migrants to other states

>>34114546
This. They should just use their defense budgets to rent our military whenever they need it.

>>34114542
>the chances of a purchase of F-35 getting slimmer and slimmer for most European countries

What the hell are you smoking?

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>>34114542
The planes are already bought and paid for dipshit.

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Cessna 172's

>>34114662
Not that anon, but they're not paid for. They're bought in batches.

If everyone was to go fucking bonkers and cancel all orders now they would have only paid for the planes they've already recieved, maybe this LRIP batch, and whatever they put into research, nothing more.

>chances of F-35s being bought is shrinking
Are you retarded or something

>>34114542
Purchases have already been made by many countries, and the Brits at least have taken delivery of some of their F35s.

>>34114542
Whats really funny is why even BUY the 35.. its a stealth bomber.. Air to ground, great cool awesome. We have missiles that can be fired from a platform and hit a target cutting out the need for a light mobile bomb jet. Or... from a c130 bay, or a ship platform. which carry a fucking ton more payload.

Plus, the being made around AtG is not adept at all in AtA combat. So its like... Cool.. you better have completely sky control before deploying ur AtG f35 or else its gonna be tailed after its drops on target. But, you cant do that because you have not invested in your own AtA gen 5 fighter..

What im trying to say is it doesnt make sense to buy a shiton of f35's when that role can be filled pretty easily by other things.
Where as a f22 would play the Air to air combat stealth air support game much better then clear the skys for dedicated bombers that can carry more then just 2 , 2000lbs jdms.. Have more linger time and overall just be a better call


I mean they really arnt gonna send the f35 into hostile AO to hit a target without having proper air support right ?
it just seems dumb.

>Get a gen 5 Air to Air fighter first to complete with real nations
>Before worrying about buying f35s to stealth bomb mohammid abdul gehad mygod in his fucking toyota

>>34114766
>I don't know what multirole means and yet I still choose to post ignorant bullshit, call me a faggot
You're a faggot

>>34114783
No no no, i get it he F-22 is not the best tool for the job, You can use a screwdriver to drive in nails, but why do it when you have a perfectly functional hammer that won't break as easily in the process and be easier to use? From a logistics and wider-strategy angle, it's better to have a single set of basic specifications for the construction and maintence of a weapon system than to have a collection of separate systems, because you can simplify and mass-produce en masse the parts needed to build, repair, maintain, and arm the weapon system more easily, the more separated systems it replaces in your supply chain. For instance, look at the AR-15

But, What does that madder if its still going to to get Aced when used vs dedicated air combat fighters. I dont see why they are buying a gen5 bomber... when they are still using gen 3-4 Fighters. It doesnt make sense..

also, why are they even buying bombers.. its not like they are going to USE them. America does all the international policeing for the UN..

Also. Ur a faggot. Wana know how i know ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcNGpe_f2es
>boom
>faggot

>>34114766

You can fit a hell lot more F-35s on a carrier than you can C-130s.

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>>34114832
We have 25 of those, thats the ONE brit carrier.
>One.

They should be working on getting a carrier, but they spend money on dumb shit like moar f35s to rust.

>>34114824
You're a fucking retard.

Nearly everything in >>34114766 Is completely incorrect

>2000lbs jdms
>F-35 is a "bomber"
>it can't fight fighters for reasons I won't mention because I'm retarded and there aren't any
>its role can be filled by other things that perform its role less effectively
>I mean really you aren't going to send in F-35s without escorts (despite that being what the F-35 was literally made to do)
Jesus fucking Christ anon

Never post here again.

>>34114557
America Inc ©
We'll bomb the shit out of your problem

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>>34114856
Yeah but it doesnt madder what you post becuase you gotta remember your a faggot.

Also the f35 blows dicks man, hardcore dicks. Have you ever flown one ? i bet not, it sucks hardcore dicks.. feels like the canopys gonna rattle off the airframe. Shits gay and needs to be avoided at all costs. Which would make sense when your so hard on its tail

>>34114824
>From a logistics and wider-strategy angle, it's better to have a single set of basic specifications for the construction and maintence of a weapon system than to have a collection of separate systems, because you can simplify and mass-produce en masse the parts needed to build, repair, maintain, and arm the weapon system more easily, the more separated systems it replaces in your supply chain.

This is a perfectly good logic in a total war scenario.

>>34114542
>the chances of a purchase of F-35 getting slimmer and slimmer for most European countries
What the hell are you going on about?

>>34114876
Are you 12 m8
>short temper
>poor grammar
>inability to type a coherent sentence

Have talked to two pilots, one was a test pilot. They both like it.

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>>34114908
Ich wette, Sie setzen dies in eine Übersetzung, die Sie fagot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8WfPKBoyj0