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you have 10 seconds to name a single flaw
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>>34113808
it doesn't turn into a giant robot, which is theorized to be the only weapon Japs can use against Westerners effectively.
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>>34113808
>Japanese pilots
There's your flaw
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>>34113808

It's a pusher.
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>>34113828
Not an argument.
>>34113854
Not an argument.

>>34113858

That's a feature, not a bug.
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>>34113886

So is Windows 10 data collecting.
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>>34113808
No rearward visibility.
Segmented canopy.
Dynamically unstable design before the technology existed to compensate for it.
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>>34113808
>first flight: 3 August 1945
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>>34113808

meme "wunderfighter"
unstable
Not significantly faster than F4U-4 corsairs it would undoubtedly see in combat if the japs lasted that long
Slower than, and lower climb rate than, the P-51H, which would have gone into service if the japs could prolong the war. And they would get their shit pushed in by the new version Mustang.
Not to mention F7F
Not to mention F8F
outnumbered
bad visability out the canopy
limited range
limited payload


Final assessment: Junk that would be shredded by Allied pilots. They would have been relegated to suicide fighters like all the rest of the Japanese airforces in no time.
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>>34113936
>Dynamically unstable design
Canards can be made passively stable. Even more. Canards can be made spin resistant with inbuilt passive AoA limiter.
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>>34113954
Don't forget lack of decent domestic steel resources and inability to access proper supplies of oil and rubber.
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>>34113808
Propeller is at the wrong end
Back wheels too small
Too many wheels
Big wings and small wings positions reversed
No top wing
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>>34114019
>Canards can be made passively stable. Even more. Canards can be made spin resistant with inbuilt passive AoA limiter.

You would be correct. On the other hand, Canard designs have less stability margin for any CoM shifts. I wonder how well it would actually handle while firing its guns.
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The Shinden is Belldandy-approved, and as we all know, Belldandy is perfect in every way; thus, so is the Shinden.
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>>34113985
I'm always happy when someone knows what's up in history threads .

Thanks anon you made my night.
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Assuming it could've actually made it to the war, it ought to have made a nice fighter. Biggest issue would've just been keeping that big radial cool.

>>34113936
>Dynamically unstable design before the technology existed to compensate for it.
You're mixing up your tailless deltas with your conventional canard layouts. There's nothing unstable about this sort of plane; in fact, it's one of the most spin-resistant designs you can build. A buddy of mine has a Long-EZ like pic related and it is all but impossible to get that thing to depart at normal airspeeds.
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>>34113808
The AK pistol plane
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>>34113808
Wait. That plane was actually fucking built? Well. Didn't know that.
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>>34113808
>Japanese
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>>34113808
Too little too late
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There is a chink in the armor.
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>>34113808
I would point out that the propeller is gonna make mince meat of anyone bailing out, but then i remembered that it will just be rammed into a ship anyways, so...no problems here
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>>34113919
Not an argument.

>>34113936
>No rearward visibility.
Still better than krautshit, pic related
>Segmented canopy.
Still better than krautshit, pic related
>Dynamically unstable design before the technology existed to compensate for it.
false

>>34113954
Not an argument.

>>34113985
>meme "wunderfighter"
Not an argument.
>unstable
False
>Not significantly faster than F4U-4 corsairs it would undoubtedly see in combat if the japs lasted that long
Only at low altitude, which is not where it would be fighting because it was designed to intercept B-29s.
>Slower than, and lower climb rate than, the P-51H, which would have gone into service if the japs could prolong the war. And they would get their shit pushed in by the new version Mustang.
True
>Muh F8F/F7F
Only at low altitude, which is not where it would be fighting because it was designed to intercept B-29s.
>limited range
What is an interceptor?
>limited payload
What is an interceptor?

>>34114120
Not an argument.

>>34114688
Not an argument.

>>34114701
Not an argument.

>>34115026
Not an argument.
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>>34113808
Propeller's in the back; Won't get to dice up American sailors before crashing into the deck and exploding.
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>>34115051
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>>34115051
>designed to intercept B-29s.

Which did their most devastating attacks at rather low levels.
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>>34114183
Can't argue against that.
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It's Chinese made garbage, it's just gonna fall to shit the second you walk out of Kmart.
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>>34115051
Can't survive a nuclear blast.
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>>34113808
hows about the fact that the drive shat had vibration issues that were robbing power from the engine and the was never a satisfactory solution to stop overheating issues caused by the layout. not that these issues couldent be solved. from what i read its landing gear would need a total redesign for carrier use. it had a lot of the same problems the do335 had. im sure with time it could have been fixed. i think traditional designs beat the hell out of it just for cost and simpleness.
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>>34115333
trips never lie
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The length of the landing gear and the small spacing between them probably make the plane very hard to land safely.
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>>34115051
>krautshit, pic related
Weren't those things _extremely_ loud?
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>>34113828
Fpbp
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>>34113808
Fuck off Uberdude
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>>34115051
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>>34113985
Range isnt a problem when you're defending your home country,lmao what a moron
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>>34113985
Also, what "payload"?
This was supposed to be an interceptor,it's task would have been destroying B29s.not bombing targets and such.
4x 30mm is enough you slow tanuki
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>>34113808
It only flew 3 times for a total of 45 minutes.
Not very effective in my book.
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>>34113808
Lay off the video games.
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>>34113808
Engine needed unavailable metals.
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>>34115119
Until August 1945.
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What about the jet version?
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>>34118947
Dude, the engine needed metals that were not available in Japan, therefore very few would be built, therefore a waste of resources.
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>>34119210

ARGUMENT [ ]
NOT AN ARGUMENT [X]
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>>34113808
they didn't make more.
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>>34113808
If you want to stop flying you need to find a US warship.
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>>34113808
unstable in flight
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>>34113808
if you pull up to fast you smash the rotor
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The design was very probably sound. Manufacture of parts in Japan, especially late WWII when they couldn't even maintain regular aircrafts correctly, was probably mediocre at best however.
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>>34113808
>Required unavailable resources and tooling to produce.
If you cant built it you cant fight with it.
Not being able to get to the battlefield is a major flaw.

>Fails to address strategic problems.
By August 1945 Japanese pilot training had been cut to near zero.
Other late Japanese designs got around that by being extremely simply to fly, single use, or both. The J7W was neither.

>Unable to inflict sufficient damage on B-29 raids.
The US B-29 attacks on Japan suffered virtually zero casualties.
The addition of a single interceptor design, without sufficient radar warning systems, AAA or night fighters, would not have been able to bring US losses to rates comparable to the European theater (~5% per raid), much less heavy enough to justify halting the attacks.
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>>34119112
This.

I mean look at it, this is clearly a jet fighter just waiting to be fitted with jet engine and using rotors as a stopgap in the meantime. I'm convinced that's how it was originally designed.
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>>34113808
The flaw is thinking it wouldn't get shot down in droves by later model P-47s and P-51s that would be flying sweeps and escorting the B-29s.
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>>34116702
Good luck trying to survive the fighter screen long enough to make an attack
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>>34115051
Oh wow, look guys, it's autistic.
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>>34113808

It's a sitting duck for the P-51 and would be eaten alive by the P-80.
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>>34120546
That's what the wheels on the vertical stabilizers are for.

>>34120767
Not an argument.

>>34122262
Not an argument.

>>34122356
Not an argument.
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>>34120779

And you would be right, the officer who commissioned the design, Lieutenant Commander Masayoshi Tsuruno, believed a canard based aircraft would be a perfect platform a jet engine later on in it's development from inception.

It was always meant to be a jet fighter.
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>>34118947
>>34115051
>>34113886
>>34113808
>comes to /k/ trying to troll and start and argument
>just looks like a retard
>keeps repeating 'not an argument'
If it's not an argument it should be easily dismissed right? Lmao what a fucking sperg.
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>>34122897

You can't dismiss arguments that aren't arguments like the one you just posted.
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>>34113808
Poor visibility, landing struts are also flight control surfaces. Terrible design desu. Back to drawing board, baka. Most dishonorable.
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>>34113808
It's Japanese, and thus has an utter shitheap of an engine.
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Massive target profile
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>>34122897

gb2reddit
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>>34118923
kek
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