low budget moderna war

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>>34097106
pic relatet thrown on a car

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>>34097106
bump for interesting topic
i sadly onely have the obvious answer: improvised technicals

Considering how much cheaper electronics get every year, you'd think those high tech missiles like the Javelin and the Stinger would be cheap as chips by now.

>>34097117
That's both wildly interesting and terrifying at the same time. I want to know if there's a method for dealing with this kind of thing yet.

>>34097239
Moving forward 2 feet

>>34097239
yes interfering with the radio controls of the drone itself

>>34097239
Radio jammers or literally a shotgun with buckshot. Or maybe just a piece of fabric strung three feet above the roof.

>>34097268
*birdshot

>>34097231
Any sufficiently crafty EE can cook up an optical missile in short order. Give him access to the good shit and the datasheets for them and you've got exactly that. The Spike is very much something that can be approximated in a garage.

>>34097268
the drone is about 200m above ground
good luck even spotting it... not even talking about shooting it down

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>>34097106
interesting what gun Jesus has to say about this kind of shenanigans
https://www.forgottenweapons.com/old-tech-new-tech-syria/

>>34097231
It wouldn't be the physical components that cost a lot in the long run, but the design and development, the software, the intellectual property, and the massive legal limits placed on the company.

>>34097435
sounds like a job for reverse engineering and bootleg ICBM's

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>>34097398
Scanning the sky is just a basic precaution.

>>34097460
I'm not sure how easy that would be, or whether it would even be worth it. It would be worth it for a state actor who's doing a carbon copy, using the same niche processor and instruction set, but some guys in a basement would probably be better served starting from scratch.

>>34097489
>Let me just repeat this guy, just rephrase it in a slightly different way

>>34097511
...wut? I said the opposite.

>>34097398
Arisaka antiaircraft sights for a picatinny rail.

>>34097231
much of that cost is ensuring reliability. Usually means R&D and test out the ass, then manufacturing the exact same thing with zero changes until a new (also expensively R&D'd and tested) generation comes out.

>>34097569
this...

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>>34097161
hnnggh
all of that spent brass.

>>34097161
What can we expect technicals to look like in the 2020s?

Usual dshk, or something newer?

>>34097939
whatever people can get their hands on, it always comes down to that

>>34097106
There was vid of sniping robot at the battle of Aleppo, like a platform with a heavy machine gun, cam with telescopic lens, and tracks
The operator would move the platform into place, hydraulic legs would stabilize it and he'd start to snipe people in no mans land from cover.

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>>34098056
this is the things i am talking aboud
where are the vidoes of this?
all i found is a pic from

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>>34098056
This thing?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvfoAvtgjak

>>34097106
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtnNfF9VeSA

a drone used to direct mortar fire

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theyre pretty crafty cunts when they want to be. suprising what they can do with some junk and scrap.

>>34097106
Parabolic rockets

not very precise but relatively easy to use and make

>>34098471
>suprising what they can do with some junk and scrap.

And training from foreign intelligence.

>>34097231
>you'd think those high tech missiles like the Javelin and the Stinger would be cheap as chips by now.
Monopoly says otherwise.

>>34098471
this technik is used since years to blow up cars

>>34098502
this

the US and most western militaries will spend a shit ton of money for whatever they want
there is no controlling involved and some companies earn a lot by selling overprised things the front line soldier doesnt realy need

>100 quad-copters converted into IED bombers.
It'll be interesting to see what they come up with to get around that like they did with roadside bomb attacks in Iraq/Afghanistan.

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>>34098651
No doubt some contractor is already working on a $6,000,000 anti-air automated platform you could tow behind a truck or tank.

Or some hand-held wireless jammer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaC5QAtBlrI

That or chicken wire nets above your turret cupola.

>>34097106
>low budget

That drone is almost 1000 fucking dollars and isis wasted hundreds of them for their propaganda videos.

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>>34097117

>>34097239
the us military will have nothing to worry about, russian drones are pieces of shit that cannot get off the ground. fuck russia

>>34098725
>That drone is almost 1000 fucking dollars
>implying 1000 bucks is more than pennies in military terms
>not understanding they can be reused

But being civilian drone a radio scanner to listen for control signals and a radio jammier to step onto eh control frequencies seems simple enough for a real military unit.
Heck just detecting the presence of a drone would be enough to allow counter measures.

>>34097117
Also the size means even a lightly armored vehicle could resist it.

Battlefield Radar could also detect it pretty easy.

>>34098816
This. Russians are irrelevant and a bunch of sand nigg lovers.

>>34098725
120 mm mortar round costs 800 dollars
155 mm arty rounds costs 1500 dollars.

>>34098934
>Heck just detecting the presence of a drone would be enough to allow counter measures.
With current mass proliferation of such devices soldiers would be hearing "reeeeeeeeeee" in the scanner all the time.
>the boy who cried wolf

>>34098705
>Or some hand-held wireless jammer.

That might be dangerous, especially if its an air-burst detonation that requires a constant radio link in order to not blow up.

>>34098934
>Heck just detecting the presence of a drone would be enough to allow counter measures.
That depends on how they use there drones. If they stop useing these and just settle with radio controled buzz bombs, even if the radio is jammed. Remeber these guys are hitting targets 1 to 2 miles away.

>>34099059
Jamming the drone would be half the job, it's to keep it stationary while you shoot it down.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BU8r6dHWBi8

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>>34097117
That was more than I expected

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8oGgRX7a8U
Why make soldiers fly into battle on jetpacks when you can make them surf in with just as much protection (none)?

>>34098471
Is this a barrel bomb, the weapon to surpass metal gear?

>>34099701
holy shit

this would be like clay shooting with humans

>>34097414
johntron really changed his tune

>>34098934
>Hack signal to drone
>Force return home
>Drop payload whilst landing

>>34099384
lewd

>>34097106

> wasting time killing a bird and then tying its feathers together

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>>34100363
or just buy them for 2.99 a dozend

>>34097239
Civvie drones would be really easy to spoof with EM countermeasures, since they're operating on a relatively narrow radio band.

Even if they McGuyver it to operate on a wider selection of bands, any military grade transmitter would be able to just overpower them

>>34097231

They are extremely cheep. <50k for a missile that has a good chance to take out an aircraft worth maybe 1mil+ is a good deal when you have atleast a couple million to work with,

The stinger's computers:

> The four-processor RMP has 4 KB of RAM for each processor. Since the downloaded code runs from RAM, there is little space to spare, particularly for processors dedicated to seeker input processing and target analysis.

That means that it has an ancient CPU: 4kb = 1/25th of this image (>>34097414) could hold the code for 1 of the 4 CPUs

>>34100407
>>34097239

Military applications are known for not giving a flying fuck about what band they are operating on.

They probably just jam everything they possibly can all the time with enough RF power to kill a dove a mile away.

The technology definitely exists

>>34100451
this
same goes for good anti tank rockets
even if they cost some 10k a pop they are stil waaaay cheaper then the tanks

>>34100487
Not to mention that it's far cheaper and easier to train a missile team than a tank or heli crew.

>>34098472
>Parabolic rockets

Tell us more. Are these like the sugar-chlorate fueled rockets the Palestinians s pester the Israelis with?

>>34098486
>buying into the Iranian intelligence training meme when shaped charges have been used since WW2.

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>>34097106
>>34100396
Time for an all out arms race

>>34101080
Kek

>>34101080
lol, nice.