Why are people so upset a Springfield? What did they do exactly?
They were a bunch of poofta cunts mate.
>>34088184
Much like fudds and AR owners they sold every other gun owner up the river because they thought it wouldn't directly affect them.
They ripped off the name Springfield and started making crap.
>>34088222
this
>>34088222
by doing what exactly
>>34088184
Nothing. /k/ is just retarded and impulsive
>>34088447
A bunch of youtubers are making videos about how terrible they are but not explaining why
>>34088446
Supporting anti gun legislation and getting exempted from said legislation.
>>34088184
Garbage company making garbage weapons with garbage morals.
Joke tier company DESU.
>>34088184
Crony capitalism, that's what they did. Supported anti gun legislation and politicians in IL to get an upper hand in the market there.
>>34088184
>>34088446
They supported anti gun legislation on the condition that they themselves (stores affiliated with them) were exempt from said legislation, which, if passed, would effectively make them the only people you could buy guns from in whereever it was, i forgot. I think Illinois or Idaho or something.
Then, after it was over, and the public backlash was there, they pretended to not know anything about it, effectively playing both sides of the issue.
>play anti gun side for moniez
>it passes
>public outrage
>play progun side for sympathy (i.e. moniez)
http://blog.springfield-armory.com/springfield-armory-statement-regarding-gun-dealer-licensing-act-sb1657
Here's them saying they totally knew nothing about it.
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2017/04/john-boch/springfield-armory-rock-river-arms-trade-opposition-to-illinois-ffl-licensing-scheme-for-carve-out/
Here's an article going more in depth than what i did.
Check out the campaign contributions.
From SA themselves, not simply their IMFA people, or whatever they are.
>>34088813
I'll paste the relevant parts here.
>Earlier today, the Illinois State Senate passed bill SB-1657 by a one-vote margin. While its prospects are still unsure in the House, if signed by Governor Bruce Rauner, the new law will mandate state licensing for all Illinois gun dealers. It will also restrict all others in Illinois to nine firearm transfers per year.
>The lobbyist for the Illinois Firearms Manufacturers Association (IFMA), Jay Keller, traded that group’s opposition to the bill in exchange for a carve-out, removing Prairie State firearms manufacturers from the licensing requirements.
>Two companies provide the bulk of the funding for IFMA: Springfield Armory and Rock River Arms.
>To be clear, the original version of SB-1657 did not exempt manufacturers from the licensing regulations. At the time, Jay Keller and IFMA opposed it.
>At a March Senate hearing, however, Keller stated that IFMA would drop its opposition to SB-1657 and go neutral if legislators gave the state’s gun makers a pass. State Senator Don Harmon delivered on his end of the deal with an amendment exempting big box stores and manufacturers from this scheme.
>With that amendment, IFMA dropped its opposition to the bill, going neutral on the witness slip. That serves as a very public position on a bill in Illinois politics.
If I remember reading the bill properly, which I'll link below, then this also effectively axes gun shows, as you can't sell more than 10 firearms in a year without having an FFL.
http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/fulltext.asp?DocName=10000SB1657sam001&GA=100&LegID=104404&SessionId=91&SpecSess=0&DocTypeId=SB&DocNum=1657&GAID=14&Session=
Don't they have the grip safety? That's kind of gay t.b.q.h
>>34088836
Yeah, here we go. Page 8, section 15.
20 Section 15. Exemptions. The provisions of this Act related
21 to the licensure of dealers and dealerships do not apply to a
22 person or other entity that engages in the following
23 activities:
24 (1) transfers of less than 10 firearms within each calendar
25 year;
Is there a list of 2nd Amendment traitor companies?
>>34090401
Second'd, I'd like to have one, myself
So essentially this has just made it twice as hard for law-abiding gun owners to get a firearm (because now Springfield will have a complete monopoly), but twice as easy for your average nigger with who wants a prablem sahlver to get one? In Illinois too, jesus christ, like they don't already have a nigger problem
>>34088184
I forgive them because Springfield makes good products and the M1A as well. Their M1As are good quality.
>>34090559
Go away astroturfing Springfield shill
>>34090559
Are you retarded?
M1As are mediocre. Even Norinco comes with forged receivers, unlike SA.
Get a Fulton or LRB.
>>34090559
the M1As are literally Taurus Tier, the only thing that Springfield has is brand recognition after they bought the name.
>>34090401
Troy is one of them. Hired the Ruby Ridge sniper (I don't care about this one too much) and a former Chicago Police Commissioner who was rabidly anti-gun.
>>34090462
only in Chicago, which is internally cucked
>>34088813
>>34088836
>>34088854
fake news. go back to /T_D/ you fucking racist shithead.
>>34088184
>supported antigun legislation by going neutral about IL legislation once their company was exempt from the bill
>IL FFLs need to be registered to a certain group to continue to do business
>IL citizens can't do more than 9 transfers a year
you give an inch, they'll take a mile
>>34090588
fulton receivers are also cast
>>34090732
Yes, but everything attached to the cast receiver is nicer.
For my money though, I'd go for an LRB. Their GI rifles don't run much higher than SA's basic rifles, as long as you don't object to them using some surplus parts.
>>34091255
>GI rifles don't run much higher than SA's basic rifles
The "entry level" model with mismatching blem unrefinished surplus parts costs nearly double the price of a new SA rifle.
I would rather buy a good looking rockola for that much.
>>34090705
>>34091495
Missing
>F-35 is a good plane
>>34090705
What does fake news even mean nowadays.
>also on the very off chance you aren't trolling, which is very possible given the idiocy I've seen today, have a bump.
>>34091495
>>34091517
Is it just me, or is that text horrendously difficult to read? I mean, I know my eyes are failing, but jesus.
>>34090559
Their 1911s are made in Brazil but are sold at a price point equal to a truly made-in-America Colt because fudds are stupid.
>>34090401
S&W
Ruger
Although that was a long time ago
>>34090705
u go bak plebber
>>34088184
They are no longer a military contracted company and so get away with lower spec for a premium just by brand name.
>>34090401
Troy
HS Precision
Armalite
Springfield Armory
Mossberg
Cheytac (already out of business, good riddance)
>>34093589
>Mossberg
?????
there is finally a progressive gun company doing the right thing and supporting common sense laws to stop gun violence. of course all the racists nazis from pol would be upset over it. real /k/ommandos still like springfield
>>34093697
they put out a DEA commemorative 590. a lot of people in the gun community are not happy with the DEA.
>>34093814
and why is that?
>inb4 muh weed
>inb4 muh Fast and Furious
>>34091517
>F-35 is a lemon
FTFY so it's actually bait.
>>34093836
might have something to do with the fact that it is an unconstitutional and corrupt organization that has caused vast harm all over the world at great expense to the american taxpayer
specifically regarding 2A they performed illegal mass surveillance of gun shows, and their lobbying was one of the big reasons for the import ban and 1994 AWB
>>34092473
My eyes are great and that image is damn near impossible to read. Whoever made it was an idiot.
>>34088184
they existed