Which 7.62 platform should I blow my money on?

SCAR

>>34084100
/thread

>>34084091
An AR-10

Call me crazy but a Vepr in 7.62x51.

>>34084091
7.62 by what?
Could you be more specific?
.308?

>>34084091
Since 7.62 doesnt have much of a future i would just get a cheap PTR91 or milsurp FAL

>>34084091
Crates of 91/30

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An AR-10

7.62/ 308 just gimme suggestions

Precision bolt action.

>>34084250
7.62 =/= .308

>>34084091
LR-308. there are still a few to be had and they are still cheap as shit. which will not last when people start realizing the g2 is unreliable.

>>34084284
Really rare to have a gun that isn't rated for both though.

>>34084308
>rated
/sigh
summer

>>34084317
>le sigh
You need to go back.

>>34084308
there exists 7.62x54, 7.62x54r, and 7.62x39.

>>34084110
Dont pick it up wrong

>>34084326
noguns moron uses "rated"

>>34084091
HK417

Fusil automatique leger

>>34084289
Lr? 308

>>34084341
The original post said 7.62/308 so it is quite clear that 7.62x51mm Nato is what was being talked about. Your post is just waste of space.
>>34084317
>arguing semantics

>>34084133
yeah which brand and Ii will not touch DPMS

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There are two decent choices out there.

>>34084523
>The original post said 7.62/308
Are you on drugs?

>>34084489
>Lr? 308
http://www.dpmsinc.com/LR-308_ep_124-1.html

>>34084308
308 is higher pressure dumbass 308 chamber can eat 7.62 by 51 not vice versa do vice versa you will blow out the chamber or destroy the bolt, head space s the reason why

really you obviously don't read about this do you

>>34084576
you can find these at gunshops and pawn shops for ~$800. trust me if your in the market for this type of gun, these are perfect and will not last.

>>34084556
If you had to pick one?!

>>34084607
SCAR
The MWS is nice and all, but its fuck heavy, recoils harder (with the same brake on both)

>>34084109
Might as well get a LRB M-14

>>34084577
The pressure difference is negligible.
Its not .223 v 5.56

>>34084625
Ughhh I wish it wasn't like 4000

>>34084604
Thanks for responding

>>34084716
$2900 these days, but yeah

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Go big or go home

>>34084777
True my mind is still pre election prices when scars are going for crazy money>>34084782

>>34084782
I wish !!! I can only find the newer ones, I also wanted the ecc version but can't find that either.

Get a basic Gen 2 small frame DPMS and build it up how you want it.

>>34084782
SR25s are kinda overrated. Especially without the MAMS.

>>34084091
Personally id go LMT. To avoid being a memer

Are the DSA FALs any good?

>>34084930
>FA(i)L
>2017

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>>34084308
baka fudds

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M1A scout

>>34084091
Save your money. If you MUST spend and haven't actually spent any money on anything yet (ammo, mags), I'd go for a bolt action in 30-06. It's kind of a transition period. When the military settles on a new caliber, go with that. Otherwise, go with tried and true. Battle rifles are going to be overpriced (SCAR) or have mediocre accuracy (FAL, PTR).

The more I think about it, yeah. Save your money. Buy an optic instead, then put it on next year's rifle.

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>>34084091
A nugget, akm, vz-58, or SKS .

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I'd you want something practical, with low recoil with some classic flair : SA58

Pratictical but can wear both wood and modern furniture well as take a lot of neglect and abuse: PTR from Atlantic Firearms.


Want something with great or familiar ergo and can basically be a great way to build your perfect rifle including caliber swaps from 308, 6.5,or specialty shit and can wear old time wood stocks or a free float rail : Ar308 DPMS pattern.


If you want something modern, unique, and has a major advantage among other bull pups and battle rifles :. Keltec RFB


If you want something modern that you can sink your money into even after 2.5K on just the base rifle just for a 16" barrel : SCAR H

>>34084160
How does it not have a future?
And if it doesn't then why not still get an ar10 since you can easily swap calibers?

>>34084091
What do you want to do with this rifle?

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FAL with wood furniture, no contest

R I G H T A R M O F T H E F R E E W O R L D

>>34085061
>that shooped on stock on the lowest one
for what purpose

>>34085094
shit posting on 4chan. Need to grow that E-Pee somehow.

>>34085094
Tryna shoot past the effective range of my ARs, so mostly for a dmr type role.

Christenson Arms CA-10

>>34085195
And to prove I'm not a poorfag like you

>>34085299
>to prove I'm not a poorfag like you
lol, that's funny because I own both a SCAR17 and a DD5V1.

>>34084091
Ignore 7.62 proper and get an ARAK-21. 300 ACC Blackout is usually a meme round but on a multi-calibre platform you're actually better off.

>>34085418
Considering an ARAK will set you back about two grand it'll satisfy your richfag cravings too.

>>34085447
thing is heavy though. But it is built like a brick.

>>34085447
Why would you buy an ARAK? It's an unproven platform with limited support outside of Faxon. Forget about getting longer rails, etc.

>>34085469
Multi-calibre platforms are clearly the next big thing. Every story I've heard is that the ARAK is great fun.

>>34085478
Then why not get an LMT?

>>34084972
then you can get a 19.25" barrel so you can have a handy rifle and still be able to affix bayonet

>>34084211
Does anybody still make the OG style AR-10s?

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http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015/10/15/faxon-arak-21-torture-test/

Yeah, it's doing great.

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>>34085202

I'd go with the LMT.

>>34085505
I wasn't aware LMT was making rifles that can have barrels switched that easily. Is it as simple as the ARAK?

>>34085569
The LMT barrel swap system is pretty easy. In fact, it's easier than the SCAR. The cost, of course, is weight. The LMT's barrel lock up is hefty!

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>>34085553
>12:08
Holy shit, what the fuck is he doing?

These guys are clearly awful at this "testing". The stove-piping is clearly caused by his hand (see 08:04) and his claim that an AR-15 would survive the same treatment is blatantly stupid because the trigger problem was caused by getting mud in the AR lower.

I have my criticisms of the platform but christ alive.

>>34085577
I don't know, the thing that I like about the ARAK (in theory, I haven't gotten a chance to play with it) is the easy access. You've got the adjustable ambidextrous charging handle and variable gas impingement settings that you can mess around with without field stripping. I wish there was more after market but it just seems like it'd be a good time.

>>34084100

this

>>34085648
The LMT does look like it's probably a more tested rifle though. It looks a lot like an L129, I assume it's a similar series.

>>34085711

It's exactly the same rifle.

>>34085711
The L129 is an MWS

>>34085739
>>34085746
Well, don't I feel like an idiot.

>>34085764
All good.

LMT's MARS-L is $2,000?!

>>34085806
If you can find one for sale

>>34085839
There are several on Gunbroker. That's almost SR-15 money.

>>34085843
It's an SR15 lower, with a bolt as good, and a QD barrel.

>>34085843
>That's almost SR-15 money.
And probably the only make of AR comparable to KAC. KAC and LMT are really the top of the line as far as AR platforms go. They're the only two AR brands I can think of who have had a lot of hands on time developing their products for and working with NSWC-C and SOCOM. Gucci brands need not apply.

AK-47

>>34085882
>KAC and LMT are really the top of the line as far as AR platforms go.
that's a good fucking joke.

>>34085894
>muh gucci
>muh psa build

>>34085900
I am plenty of Gucci, but my budget isn't your typical k/unt's 6 month scrap saving.

I have shot the MWS8 and the SR-25, and there are a lot of shortcomings on both rifles. The areas where they excel, namely durability with the E-bolt system and the lobster tail extractor, are geared towards problems civilian shooters will never encounter.

>>34085926
>Civilians don't need a durable bolt

>>34085926
Only real shortcoming of the LMT is weight.
Well I suppose one could argue no mlok

>>34085061
>Ar308 DPMS pattern
Is there a reason to go with this over the AR-10 pattern? What about aero 308 ARs?

>>34086064
>Only real shortcoming of the LMT is weight
also accuracy concerns. Especially with the chrome lined barrel.

The SR-25's biggest problem for me was ammo sensitivity.

>>34085940
>Civilians don't need a durable bolt
so what you're telling me is that you are willing to pay about 1k USD premium for a feature that is tailored towards a full automatic fire/extended fire schedule, the same feature which can be replaced by buying an extra bolt.

Are you now going to tell me I'm poor for debating this value proposition?

>>34086213
The 5r stainless models are sub moa

>>34086242
I am always hesitant to buy stainless due to potential corrosion problems. I don't want to baby an AR.

>>34086266
KAC and LMT chromed .308 barrels are 1.25-1.5 moa shooters.

>>34086328
and a JP or GAP is less than 1 MOA.

>>34085386
Prove it faggot

>>34084091
ptr91, no question.

>>34086328
My DD5V1 with 168gr FGMM at 100 meters is about .9 MOA from a vice, assuming I keep the barrel temperature under control.

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>>34084137

I wanted an AR10 and ended up spending $500 on a .308 Vepr. It sucks because its hard to mount a scope on but i dont shoot it much because of reasons so im glad i didnt spend $2,000+ on an AR10.

>>34085418
>>34085447
Arakfag here all the weight is in the barrel and bolt carrier, also an upper alone runs about 1200 last I looked
>Don't get the fucking heavy barrel

>>34086439
>hard to mount a scope on
Buy $50 scope mount, mount scope. It also looks cooler because it's lower profile due to the receiver being above the cheek weld area.

I would have gotten a 308 or 7.62x54 vepr by now but I'm afraid it's going to give me FAL tier 5moa accuracy. What are you getting out of yours?

>>34086551
>but I'm afraid it's going to give me FAL tier 5moa accuracy
Not him, but I've heard .308 AKs are surprisingly accurate

>>34084738
I will second the recommendation for the LR-308. I've had one for about eight years. It's an excellent gun.

>>34084284

7.62 and .308 are not full cartidge sizes, you need the length as well. 7.62 and .308 are the same technically speaking.

>>34086565
>surprisingly

Doesn't surprise me. The 100 series types (which most 308 AKs are) are much better in the accuracy field than their cheaply made AKM counterparts. We're still not talking ~1moa which is what I would want out of a .308 machine, but if real combat reliability is a concern an AK is a good option.

>>34084091
I'm holding out for the Beretta ARX 200 (308) semi auto...

>>34086356
>>34086376
And that's not chromed.
Go LMT 5r and you'll get that too

>>34086628
Mama mia, Mario come get your .308!

M1 Garand from CMP.

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>>34084091
M240

Don't be a pussy summerfag

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>>34086628
Look at this fat ass rifle with it's double chin

>>34086551
>What are you getting out of yours?

No clue i only pout 2 boxes of ammo though it trying to unsuccessfully sight the scope in. It recoils so hard it blew the back of the the Arsenal mount and fucked the aluminum all up. So i gave up on the idea of making it a budget DMR and it's been sitting in my gun cabinet ever since.

I have heard reports of 2 MOA accuracy from a lot of people but it is ammo picky and likes German surplus.

>>34086755
For when 4moa is good enough

>>34086652
DD5V1 is chromed.

>>34086613
> The 100 series types (which most 308 AKs are) are much better in the accuracy field than their cheaply made AKM counterparts.
This is a load of bullshit. There is nothing particularly accurized about the 100 series, and if anything they're MORE "cheaply made" than the AKM thanks to manufacturing optimizations (stamped gas tube lever, bump rivet, dimple pressed barrel components).

Both are capable of 2 MOA given the right conditions.

>>34086766
Would you happen to be willing to sell?

>>34086565
a good ak will be very accurate .
OP get a fucking ak and stop trying to be a special snowflake

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>>34086850

not really, i got it for $500 on black friday and it's worth more now than what i paid for it since Molot said they will never sell us flat backs again.

I ended up putting a SGL stock on it, i wanted to convert the front end but the hand guard screw on the barrel triggers my autism.

>>34084091
>>34085418
>>34085469
>>34085478
>>34085617
>>34085882
>>34085894


>platform

>>34086883
Platform is perfectly okay.
It's weapon system that's triggering.

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I was also thinking about mounting a 6 power POSP scope on it. But it's been so long since i thought about it the prices seem to have went up... I should have just bought an AR10 ~desu

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>>34084091
Be a big dick swinging rich fag and get an SR25.

>how can SCARs even compete?

>>34086766
Did your torque everything down properly and be sure that everything was pressed firmly forward before clamping down the scope right? I can't imagine how the back of a mount would be "blown" off when the mount moved forward under recoil. Do you mean the back end of the mount where it's attached to the receiver?

>>34086914
how can it compete? it's flat out better.

>>34086882
When did Molot say this? the FIME group has plenty for sale

>>34086909
Put some proper furniture on that saiga. That furniture setup gave me cancer

>>34086908

a platform is something you stand on

the things that shoot bullets arent platforms, theyre guns, plain and simple. saying "x platform" is tryhard and cringy

>>34086941
>words can't have multiple meanings
okay buddy

>>34086755
Everything about that rifle looks ugly, everything.

>>34086941
What else would you call the group of AR rifles? Platform is the most fitting word

>>34086945
you dont go to the platform range you go to the gun range, its a gunsafe not a platform safe

>>34086955

"the AR-15 family of firearms"

Why do 7.62x51 mags of both the straight and curved variety look so much better with the rifle than 5.56 mags?

Is it because they aren't longer than the grip and don't ruin the aesthetic balance of the weapon?

>>34086955
Trash

>>34086919
>Did your torque everything down properly and be sure that everything was pressed firmly forward before clamping down the scope right? I can't imagine how the back of a mount would be "blown" off when the mount moved forward under recoil. Do you mean the back end of the mount where it's attached to the receiver?


Yeah i did, I bought the Arsenal scope mount because it was touted as the lightest weight rail at the time and i didn't want a 20 pound gun. The aluminum was thin where it contacted the rail mount and when i was trying to sight it in i could not get it zeroed. At first i blamed the Bushnell Elite 3200 i had on it. Then i happened to see the mount and it was peening the fuck out of it, it was budged a bit and if i kept shooting it it would have completely blown through the aluminum.

The molot mount was built heavy but at the time they were all sold out and there was talk of Molot being banned from import. So i was about to buy a POSP but i was a bit uneasy about fucking up a $300 scope after thrashing a $140 Arsenal SM-13 rail.

>>34086973

kek

>>34086929
>When did Molot say this? the FIME group has plenty for sale

Link or it didn't happen

>>34086979
Sounds like you just need a heavier mount. I have no idea how am style rails are mounted, but is it possible the rail holes were over sized? You really want a tight fit on rails and doodads or they will rattle themselves loose.

>>34084091
Mossberg MVP LR

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>>34086979

I found the pic of the damage it did and this was only 20 rounds of ammo. I got pissed off and gave up on sighting it in and later seen this bullshit.

And yeah the rail was slid all the way forward and it was tight. If i had adjusted it to clamp any tighter i would have fucked the clamp it trying to close it.

>>34084818
Hey man Tombstone Tactical sells all of the SR25 models that Knights Armament offers btw

>>34086941
when did you get your GED, bubba?

>>34086955
>>34086908
the platform carries the weapon system

the rifle is the WS, the man is the platform

missile launchers are platforms to carry missile weapon systems, but boolets are not WS on their own thus a rifle or cannon is not a platform

>>34084930

yes

>>34086940
>Saiga
>Not realizing the extended freefloat handguard is master race

Whats the verdict on the Sig 716?

>>34084427
summer fag

>>34087075
Sexy desu

>>34084100
Fpbp

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>>34084091
HCAR

>>34084630
Might as well get a FNAR-H.

>>34087075
If it wasnt for the covered thumb hole this would look kinda cool

>>34084561
>>34084250

>>34084634
The pressure difference is neglible with .223 v 5.56 but it is quite high with .308 vs 7.62x51.

>>34084577
No doubt that there are guns where this is the case but i would argue that most guns are designed to safely handle both.

>>34087182
All pros/cons of the 417 with none of the sex appeal. My friend has one and it's a very nice shooter, but on the heavier side and you can't pretend to be conducting Operation Neptune Spear in your house during your 3am shitposting break with it.

>>34084091
I want an AK pistol but suddenly can't find any locally. I went to 4 LGS yesterday, 2 of which had them recently and no luck.

>>34088321
You can clearly see where the budget ran out

>>34086882
I'll give you $650

>>34088702
This guy fucks!!! And also knows what I wanna do with a 308

>>34084100

yes

>>34084549
>i will not touch DPMS
Your loss. Absolutely nothing wrong with them, and they use better barrels than rifles costing twice as much.

>>34084634
The pressure difference with either is negligible. They test in different places so it looks bigger than it is.

Nobody's made a 7.62x51 rifle that couldn't also shoot .308win commercial since 1953, and fewer than 10,000 total rifles were produced that couldn't safely fire commercial .308win.

>>34086766
fuckin kek. i bought a 308 vepr, put two magazines through it, couldnt adjust the front sight and put it away in my safe as well.
i also had dreams of a dmr style rifle but ultimately, it didnt do anything for me.
one of these days, ill get enough motivation to sell it, i dont care much either way

>>34085153
>shooped
No, the Magpul PRS stock is just that goofy.

>>34084362
What the fuck do you mean. The only complaint i have heard is they are overpriced for what they are.

should I get a battu raifu or a 6 shot marlin 45-70 for my next large rifle purchase?

>>34089421
I'll buy it from you my guy

>>34086736
only right answer here

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>>34084091
FAL

>>34084091
AR-10

>>34084100
That's it, go home boys.

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I've had an AR-10 and currently have a STG-58 kit FAL and a PTR-91. The AR-10 was ok, it was a PSA gen 1 that worked very well. It was reasonably accurate and with optic and mags ran me about $1200. But it was boring. Accuracy was good but not amazing and it was no different than shooting my AR-15's.

The FAL is very nice and fun to shoot. I have a top railed cover but haven't put it through any accuracy testing.

I love the PTR-91. Tons of surplus parts and mags out there. The trigger was shitty at first but really smoothed out after about 500 rounds. It always works. It has to be the most reliable gun I have ever had. It does beat up the brass and is really dirty due to blowback. It beats brass up pretty bad. They are reloadable but take some work getting back into shape. I hunt alone a lot. Moose/Bear/Cougar country so having that reliable 308 semiautomatic rifle is very nice.

>>34084100
This or MR308 A3-28

>>34084211
>sub-human outlet
>button
... ? What does the button do?

>>34084549
Ar10's is the one thing dpms got right, they were lightyears ahead of everyone a few years ago but didn't develop shit a la colt.


Their .223/5.56 guns do suck you ain't wrong about that.

>>34092222
The thing to do is buy a basic DPMS gen 2 AR10 for less than $1000 and swap parts until you have your ideal modern rifle.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eweLAgf_55I

Ar10 if semi di.
Fnar if piston.
GA precision if bolt or
Blazer straight pull if money money

>>34092442
DPMS spec is inferior to KAC spec though

>>34092551
>what is DPMS Gen 2

>>34092551
The DPMS gen 2 actually copied a few things from the SR25.

>>34092575
Not KAC spec

>>34092588
>copied a few things
Yes, a few, not all
KAC spec is superior.

>>34092738
what are these specs you guys are talking about?

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>>34092783
In particular the receiver mating geometry

>>34092806
Like it's not as wobbly as some ars?

>>34091537
What scope on the PTR? AND how much did the matching wide handguard set you back? It sounds like G3 surplus is drying up and ze germans don't want to export more

>>34092867
Generally more accurate, and yes, less slop

>>34092880
It's a Primary Arms 5x prism. The wide handguard was black but I painted it green. It was Turkish I believe.

Here is an HK set I just ordered for the black look:
https://www.apexgunparts.com/h-k-g3-hk91-stock-handguard-and-grip-set-good.html

The HK furniture is better than the PTR stuff. My rifle is an A3S that came with black furniture. The front handguard didn't have a heat shield.

Apparently there is a new .308 AP round that will defeat plates

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017/05/28/army-chief-milley-says-army-developed-new-bullet-defeat-level-iv-body-armor/

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Has anyone worked on putting a empty mag bolt hold onto a G3? Not having one of those is the only reason I don't own a G3 style rifle.

>>34088720
And where would that be? Because it didn't.

>>34093539
Optic, rings, and bipod

>>34093557
>optic
Meopta meostar 6-24x56
~1,6k $

>rings
Recknagel rings
~250$

>bipod
Ok yeah that is cheap china stuff.

You've been wrong 2/3 times.

>>34093557
Oh the optic is even 1,9k burger bux.

>>34084091
I'd get a PoF Revolution. I like AR comparability, it's like 7.5lbs, manageable recoil, 16" barrel, ~1moa.

It's like my AR10, but better in all the ways I want.

>>34093093
We already have such ammo, it's called tungsten carbide core ammo.
Then there are slap rounds, also usually tungsten carbide but going at 4000 fps.

>>34093657
Why? Just build one.
I'll be getting Gibbz side charging upper, some compatible quality lower, kak double extractor bolt, X-caliber 308 18 inch bull barrel 4140 nitride 1:8 twist, f&d handguard with quick change barrel system(need to modify lower for that), sig pistol braxe(old one).
If I could afford it I get f&ds lower and upper with no stock and barrel but that's like 2k plus 500 for the brace and barrel.

>>34093647
>Shitty reticles
>mediocre lighting
>uninspiring FOV
its a budget buy

>>34093716
Yeah yeah, sure it is.

Here's the kicker. I paid 850 for it.

Show me a better glass for that price or for 1,6k. Burgertrash need not apply

>>34093757
>For the price
Thats the issue.
Once you got above a 2.5-10x the only really good options are going to be starting at $2250.

Vortex AMG, k624i, pmii, etc.

Mind you im cheaping out myself with an NXS, though if I get a creedmoor barrel, im going to step it up.

>>34093795
I actually handled the Schmidt & Bender PMII and found the difference to be negligible.

Also I'm not using the MR for anything serious (shooting paper <500m) so I don't feel the need to shell out that kinda money.

Then again I paid <3000€ for the gun + optic.

>>34093830
Not a bad price.
It come with the bare steel barrel or chromed?

>>34093851
Chromed.

Yeah, sad story behind it actually.
Guy was forced by his bitch wife to sell it.
Our store bought it from him for cheap and I bought it with a tiny markup from the store.

10 mags, hardcase, HK padded sling etc. included.

>>34093631
>Meopta meostar 6-24x56
>~1,6k $
1.6k for a 6-24x scope is pretty budget tier.

>>34089642
they're not over priced, they're not out shined by AR10s.

Retards complain about their price because they're poor, and they talk shit about it because they're rationalizing their poverty.

>>34093757
>Show me a better glass for that price
>for that price
if you wanted to justify your poverty, you can always post in ARG.

Two people here made it very clear that your optic choice is purely a "value" proposition.

>>34084091
Kimber Model 84M

>>34095176
The bedding also makes them delicate

>>34084091
FFS, if you're a richfag, just get an AWM or a Barrett in .308.

Fuck it, just get an M107 and blow your target way into the theft country.

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KAC SR-25

>>34093708
>pistol brace
>18" barrel
For what purpose?

HANDL Mk17. It's a SCAR with all the plastic shit replaced with aluminum, a geissele trigger, full length mlok rail, takes magpul mags, think it comes with better irons, better stock, and a couple of other things i can't remember.

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>>34084091
Idk but here's mine

buy this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMvvTIKZsZ4
or get an ar-10 in 6.5 creedmoor

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Do any companies sell .308 uppers that look like the top two in >>34085061?

A rifle length 20" with a front sight. I don't want fucking rails.

>>34097588
fag

>>34097588
how can anyone ever be that fat

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>>34097611
idk how it be like it is, but it do

>>34097616
what are americans doing to themselves

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>>34097626
providing TLC with years of content

>>34097365
>Better irons
Topkek

>>34084284
I can't tell if you're noguns or just autistic. 308 and 762 work just fine in the same guns pretty often.

>>34097774
He's referring to that x51 runs a wee bit lower pressure, and a wee bit slower than .308

>>34086882
What mags is it taking?! And what needed to be done to it to take them?

>>34084091
A Scar unless you want a AR in 7.62 than get a LWT.

What's so bad about the lower priced ar10s? Like the psa?

>>34085541
I fucking wish. I want to make a .308 survivalist rifle.

>>34084091
fn

>>34099954
Accuracy and aesthetic

>>34100062
What's to affect the accuracy? Just lower quality barrles and bolt fit?

MDR coming out this month!

>>34097643
Funny thing is that fatass in the picture wasn't even the subject of the show, his brother is even fucking fatter.

>>34084549
dpms ar10s are great, your loss

>>34085061
>dat extra long real fucnin nato sized carry handle

I need one

>>34086194
dpms pattern ones are cheaper but still have great quality

>>34100101
308ar game isn't so plug and play. Tolerance stacking is a thing. Getting below two moa isn't hard, dropping under one may, not will, but may be an issue

>>34100263
copy that.

All it all it doesn't sound like a bad way to go. 2moa is better than your average g3 or fal

>>34101219
If your building, just get the receivers as a set, get a decent barrel and trigger. Sprinkle in the rest and your off to the races.

ARAK

>>34097365
I bet you have never shot a scar.
Handl17 is a piece of shit. You're basically paying them to remove your insecurities.

What's wrong with the RFB?
Does it have a really shitty trigger because of its bullpup design?

>>34084363
t. redditor

>>34101608
It's made by keltec

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>>34091807
It's not a button is an Australian style switch Which makes the AR10 WAYY more confusing

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>>34095726
>No forward assist

>>34084211
Fuck the NCR

>>34084972
I love my Scout, but I payed way too much for her. If I had to do it all over again I would have just got an AR 10, even if I had to give up the erection Mia gives me every time I rock her charging handle.