WEB GEAR THREAD

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well shit, i only use a ratty old french gas mask bag as a dump bag and carry everything else in a ruck or my pockets

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>>34082182
NVA web gear is A E S T H E T I C, it also likes to slide around a lot.

>>34082550
Peasant commie attire

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Regulated to airshit for now, but I passed my pal.

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>>34082562
>OP says Russian edition
>not posting commie attire
wew kamarad

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Commonwealth '08 pattern gear.
Fighting order.

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Commonwealth '37 pattern web equip
Marching order.

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Australian M1956 pattern web gear.
Patrol order.

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Australian M1956 pattern web gear.
Marching order

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Australian M1988 indwevidual load caring equipment.
Patrol order

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USMC 782 Gear circa 1990

The last one hundred years has seen several revolutions in soldiers personal equipment.
From the '08 pattern that emphasised adaptability, changing from marching order with everything a soldier needed for five days in the field to raid order, nothing but ammunition and water in less than two minutes, to everyone must wear the same, to indervidualy tailord systems, to the latest modular systems.
The level and timeliness of support influences libervidual load caring. Where soldiers enjoy a proactive supply chain, less is carried. Where support is complex and reactive, more is required.
The Pe cinditions of the battlefield also influence what is carried.
Where my g-grandfather fought in set battles on set lines, he could carry just what was needed for the action elected knowing that his pack and kit bag were a few hundred yards away and his CQMS could get the gear to him on request.
Grandfather caught a mobile war, again he knew his CQMS was close and could resupplty quickly.
Dad was in a counter insurgency with small units scattered across a wide area, his support could be hours away so he carried everything he needed for that mission and to set up for the next.
I fought in civil actions and as occupying force, I could not depend on a proactive supply chain beyond COY level, lines of communication were not secure and attack could come from any direction at any time.

The added technology required for a small force to act against a larger force has added burden to the soldiers load, night vision, anti IED, communications to indervidual level, body armour, figital communications for fire control and other such force enhancements has taken away mobility and endurance. Mission duration in modern warfare is dictated not by how long you can go without sleep or how much water you can carry but by how long AA batteries last.

It has only now become apparel to higher that requiring a soldier to go on a mission with forty five kilos of kit is hampering effectiveness.

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>>34084740
What gear 'goes with' an Indian Ishapore 2A1? That is the 7.62 Nato No1Mk3. I figure P37 would. Also, will a set of P08 kit gonna work with 5 round Nato clips? Have you experience with the Australian repro on ebay?

>>34084962
Indian forces used a mix of available pat 37 and pat 58 web gear.
India has a large army and hand me down equipment is prevalent.

7.62 five round stripper clips fit in '08 ammunition carriers, a bit hard to get out as NATO is shorter than the .303 they were designed for.

I don't know what Australian repo kit costs, all my gear is Original. Complete name marked sets, collected over generations.

It's good to be part of a tradition of serving.
We all start out as infantry and leave after being CQMS. .

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Australian "Timor" vest.

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Australian Land 125 vest.
Designed to be worn over old type body armour.

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Australian Soldier Combat Ensemble, protective elements.
Can be used as ist the BA or with pockets and pouches attached.

A real pain to change when your mission requirements change.

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Australian Soldier Combat Ensemble, load carry and field pack

MOLE is shit when you have to reconfigure your kit frequently.

Thirty five years ago, I was issued a pack that held forty litres. I used to go on five week exercises with just what was in the pack. No problems at all.
Than the packs got bigger. 50 li. 55 li. 75 li. And now the latest pack will hold 105 li and you can add another 40 li of pockets and pouched to it.
all I hear is grumbling about how they can not fit all their gear in the pack.
You don't need to take your iPad on a three day payroll idiot.

No wonder my knees are shot.

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France 1950s

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>>34085246
France WW2

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SADF Pattern 70

Like a hard as rocks Pattern 58

>>34085268
That was British Pattern 44

>>34084740
>>34084762
>>34084775

Where'd you get this stuff?

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>>34085275
SADF Recce Niemoller

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>>34085293
32 battalion niemoller

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Australian '03 pattern leather equipment.
After the failings of the 1888 pattern equipment were highlighted by experience during the Boer War, a new pattern was developed and issued. Consisting of a belt with pockets for fifty rounds of .303 in five round clips, frog and mess tin in a cover; a canteen on a strap; haversack; bandoleers in fifty and minty round pockets and a blanket/great coat carrier.
It was put on in order. Canteen, haversack, belt, bandoleer than greatcoat carrier. Each item was seperate and had to be pot on in that order.
It was replaced by the ,08 pattern for infantry use but saw service with mounted troops and artillery through to 1942.

The bandoleer is used as cerimonial dress for light horse and cav units today.

>>34085338
Neat, how common is old Australian web gear down there?

I find that Australian ebay has fuckall in terms of surplus, even auscam.

Does anyone else hate Velcro?

You get back from a mission and all you hear for the next then minutes is rrrrrrrriip rrrrrrrriip rrrrrrrrriip.

>>34085347
Not much surpluss australian gear around.
During WWII it was just cost effective to leave it behind.
Later, Australian bio security laws ment a lot was burned in country to prevent contamination or the introduction of pests.

There is some out there, you have to go to the collectors expos and fairs to find it.