Improvised metal targets?

>>34076367
>I've read on some forums that anything but purpose made AR500 steel targets can cause unpredictable ricochets

It can.

A dude I shoot with took a huge chunk of copper jacket to the arm because he was shooting at steel that wasn't hard enough, would dent and form bowls, which sent the round he fired right back at him.

If you need feed-back, then buy a case of clays used for skeet and trap, or shoot tin and aluminum cans. Don't shoot at any steel your round can't cleanly punch through, and you should be alright.

>>34076420
>then buy a case of clays used for skeet and trap
Great suggeestion, thank-you

>>34076420
but how do i know if it can cleanly punch through without shooting it

>>34076458
Use your best guess dingus

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>>34076367
Just get a spinning target.

>>34076367
It's good practice to not shoot steel with rifle rounds at close range anyway, so if you follow that rule it should be okay. I've shot quite a few frying pans in my day and so far so good and I've yet to find a pan rifles won't punch straight through. I still stay at pretty good distance to be safe though.

can i just go to a scrap yard or somewhere and get a big sheet of steel and cut it into targets with my dads oxy acetelyne cutting torch thing or will that be bad for some reason

>>34076458
If you're not sure enough to bet your or your rangemates life, than don't shoot it.

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>>34076458

Most center fired rounds will punch through your typical housewares shit, which isn't a problem. The problem becomes those that use steel that's thick enough to stop those rounds from fully penetrating, but not hard enough to prevent pitting in the steel upon impact, which forms divots / bowls in the face of the metal.

When it comes to .22, it may or may not punch through some light steel shit depending on the range, but it's not worth catching lead or copper jacket pieces to find out.

pic related: when a round hits near a divot on steel, the jacket, and even part of the slug, can be pushed towards the outside of the divot and ride it up and back towards the shooter. You can see this effect with the skillet gif. Don't risk it.

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Big dent is .50 cal ball. Little ones are .22

>>34076525
If you can get the scrap for free, then no harm in doing so. But after a while the bullets will eventually go through it probably.

>>34076501
I would like to get one of these, but they're like $120 in Canada so fuck that

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>>34076452

They make them biodegradable these day, and they're cheap as shit still.

Case of 90 for under 6bucks at walmart. They really are your best bet for reactive targets.

>>34076596
you could probably just make one. just get some steel and hoop it over a frame. grease it a bit so it spins easily. or you could do it like the animal targets. get a piece of steel, shaped like an animal if you want, and attach it to a hinge and attach the other half of the hinge to a heavy base. then put a spring behind the steel so it bounces back into place after getting hit. youll have to play with the spring strength because too weak and it wont come back up and too strong and youll get headshot by your own bullet

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Amazon sells gong targets for pretty cheap. The key is to have hung them correctly. Or you can use jumping targets

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M97TWST?th=1&psc=1

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For a 22 1/4 inch mild steel plate is good to go. It will leave tiny divots in the steel, but noting that will crater and send fragments back. Where it gets dangerous is using thicker 1/2 inch plate and center fire rifles. I've been around when fragments ricocheted and know a guy that got a serious cut from a jacket coming back at him. Like another anon said the soft steel makes deep craters that can redirect the shit back at you. It can and will happen eventually.

So, 22 is fine on mild steel and scrap in general. Center fire rifles is when AR500 is needed. Just wear fucking eye protection and you should be fine even if a little chunk of 22 splashes back at you.

Pic is 1/4 mild steel target for 22, works fine.

>>34076568
.50 BMG?

Bull FUcking SHit.

>>34077249
Sounds like lead ball, probably from a muzzle loader.

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>>34076367
Hickok45 here. Today we will be talking about shooting steel. I'd like to thank Budsgunshop for this and Federal Ammo for that.

https://youtu.be/0GpKZzt29BM

>>34076655
^this
I got some of those self healing plastic cradles works great if the berm is real far, ended up putting them on my steel target stand when i finally got one

>>34077544
how much would it cost to set up a range like hickok45's

>>34076367
www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ABGIJwiGBc

>>34077677
With all of the different targets?

Like $17,000 to $20,000

>>34077736
holy fuck wtf how does he even afford that shit

>>34077734
Jesus christ, the chances of that happening are so absurdly low

dude is so lucky it hit the ground first

>>34077758
He built it up over time. Do you not know the kind of money big youtubers make?

https://socialblade.com/youtube/user/hickok45
>$49.8K - $796.7K

The low end is only so low because of the current youtube dry spell in ads. He probably makes $300K a year in ad revenue, and he doesn't buy his guns, and the ammo is free.

>>34077758
Decades of working and saving money, anon

>>34077677
>>34077736

Or like 500 if you draw it up yourself and have it cbc torch cut from regular ass steel.

Steel is obscenely cheap, and most places just charge for metal, and not complexity of design.

>>34077665
Those are what I use for 22 targets my girlfriend loves them because she can see when she's shooting right or not, not to mention cheap and multi use. Favorite reactive targets for sure, if you really want steel just Vista a scrap yard and buy a chuck of some think plate and give it a coat of paint

>>34076367
>>34076420


>at a buddy's dad's place in the woods
>they start shooting 22s at can on a wood pile
>notice shit flying back and hitting the trees behind us
>hear a round ricochet very close by to my face
>nope the fuck out of there
>they keep shooting, standing maybe 15ft away


... was i right to fear the rounds coming back?

Also has anyone else had 22s bounce off logs?

>>34077782
He doesn't make anything now remember? Youtube demonitized gun channels.

None of it should have been monetized from the get go anyway.

>>34077249
He said ball not BMG dingus

>>34077851
>anyone else had 22s bounce off logs?

Logs, no.

Rocks, metal, sure.

>>34077862
ball refers to full metal jacket ammunition for some stupid fucking reason.

>>34077886

It wasnt just one rounds, but pretty much all of them fired that i noticed bounced back.

They were most likely store bought 22lr, but maybe they were subsonic

Could that make them more likely to bounce back?

>>34076655

Problem with these is that sometime bullet only leaves a small hole that is not easy to spot. One way for getting more easily visible impact is taking two clays, fill them with full with wet sand or small rocks and tape the two clays to another to create a package which can be used separately or installed to hole made in cardboard target.

>>34076452
Cinder blocks are also nice. ~50 cents each too

>>34076367
you want something hardened. rotors and some other scrap can work if you're too cheap to invest in armor/target plates.

>>34078703
>>34076655
the only things i've had issues with not breaking clays are 22 caliber, both 22lr and occasionally high velocity stuff like 5.45/5.56. with anything larger it is super rare.
>shoot X rounds at a clay, get frustrated and move to another target
>down range later
>the clay's center is punched out and your mind either fills in the middle or your eyes can't distinguish the hole
>there's a huge chunk shot/dug out of whatever it's hanging/leaning on
it doesn't happen often enough to be obnoxious unless you're shooting 22lr at some range but shit is it annoying when it does. the discs with larger centers seem to do it more frequently with bullets but they hold together better if you have a thrower in my experience.
it also doesn't change the fact that clays are very economic reactive targets and steel is heavy.

>>34077852
that was like 2 months ago, hes been doing this for like 8 years right??

>>34076367
Just draw on old pizza boxes. The grease makes them undesirable for recycling anyway.

>mfw I have a brainwave as I help clean up after an office pizza party and never need target backing again.

why not use paper targets in front of an earth berm

>>34078898
yuck.
you can get cardboard recycling free from most retail places anyway.
go to customer service and ask, they (corporate) love to suck your dick or get you back in the door. giving one retard a cart full of cardboard is nothing when it takes a 500+ pounds of the shit to make a bale worth selling. the paper product cartons especially (kleenex, tp, paper towel) make great target backers.
the only problem is catching them at the right time or finding a place that gives enough fuck to pass the word along to the freight crew. targets are a good prospect unless the area you live is real hood.

i get that you sniped a pile of refuse after a work food function but who goes through that much pizza personally? something about used pizza boxes just smacks so hard of coal country it's unsettling.
i print paper targets myself but a cardstock stencil and some spray paint could go a long way there.

I got hit by a ricochet from shooting a hp 380acp at a used propane tank. It hit me square in the chest with the force of someone throwing the damn round at you with anemic force. lol

>>34078878
I guess?
I'm not sure what you're getting at. Are you implying he's been stuffing hundreds of thousands of dollars in savings over the last 8 years? He would have moved out of a fucking trailer in the woods of Tennessee if that were the case.

Those youtube revenue websites are very optimistic.

>>34078986
I got a chunk of a 22lr from my buckmark once. It hit me and stuck to my shit and burned like a motherfucker. The impact was like a hard thump but it burned enough to raise sore spot.

>>34078974
I only took the tops. I have this little stand made of welded steel rods, and they fit perfectly in it.

>>34076367
I went by my local metal supply store and picked up a couple of 6"x6" 1/4" mild steel plates and drilled them so I could hang them on a simple stand. They can take 9mm and 45 AARP like a champ, but I won't hit 'em with anything hotter.

>>34077249
>eats lead paint chips like they're pringles

>>34077249
>look mom, I'm pretending I know about guns on the internet

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Great things I've found to shoot
>Case of eggs (60) Under $3
>Case of clays (90) Under $6
>Case of water (32) Under $3
>Individual cans of aerosol spray paint or air freshener (1) Under $1ea
I only shoot reactive targets now, I seriously recommend trying out eggs if you have something that can hit them consistently

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I shot at some pans i bought at goodwill for like 3 bucks apiece

they were a little less than satisfying
If I ever do it again, I'd probably hang them from a tree branch or something

>>34077851
>anyone else had 22s bounce off logs

I don't know about logs, but they'll sure bounce around in a skull.

>>34078703
>One way for getting more easily visible impact is taking two clays, fill them with full with wet sand or small rocks and tape the two clays to another to create a package which can be used separately or installed to hole made in cardboard target.

Thanks but I have no fucking idea what you're saying here

>>34077852
Why shouldn't it have been monetized?

>>34079362
You know how clays are bowl shaped? Fill that bowl with sand. Take another clay and tape it to the first clay, ass to ass. You know have a clay target full of sand that makes a big poof when you hit it.

>>34079371
because jewtube shouldn't be a money making venture for the people posting videos. it used to be about putting up videos that you were interested in, others interested in the same would be drawn to it. now jewtube is a bunch of retards clickbaiting for maximum views and making excessively long intros, cut scenes, and garbage rambling to increase their viewing time.

jewtube is waiting for a replacement to come along.

>>34079500
>jewtube is waiting for a replacement to come along.

Damn right, I hope it won't need your phone number and other personal info for an account though.

>>34076367
Use improvised stuff for long range shooting, not sure if I'd trust something improvised within 100m, if you do decide to still use it then just put it down hill from you and angle your target.

>>34077736
how the fuck can ~50 steel plates cost twenty grand

>>34076367
Don't listen to anybody telling you it's dangerous. Only use lead softpoint .22s on decent steel, and it will just splatter and not come back at you.

>>34077911
I don't know the science behind it but slow rounds tend to bounce back nearly every time, even if they have the energy to go into the wood. Path of least resistance I guess.

My dad always told me never to shoot trees with my air rifle and .22 and me being the little shit I am ended up trying it and getting a .22 graze my leg. Tried to hide it for a couple weeks then said I fell over.

>>34076596
is amazon illegal in canada?
https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=spinning+target

They're fucking 20 bucks anon.

>>34077249
>he posted smugly, secure in his knowledge that .50 BMG is the only .50cal round that has ever existed.

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>>34079167
>wasting 60 eggs for target practice

I get that you're probably 300 lbs. already and everything that gets shoveled into your face is wasted, but stop it.

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>>34080270
Not to mention that it would smell like absoloute shit.

>>34077789
There's a reason you don't use mild steel for targets bub

>>34079920
>This item does not ship to Canada.
>This item does not ship to Canada.
>This item does not ship to Canada.

And if one did it would probably be $50+ in shipping fees

Get a 5 gallin bucket
Stick paper targets up to them
Cou to bottom, flip it and fill with sand
>profit

>>34076708
Shit, that looks like fun.

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>>34076596
why the shit would a $10 set of spinners cost 120?
order online from the us then

>>34080270
they're wasted the second they're packaged

>>34078899
because DING makes my weenie feel funny.

>>34076420
> huge chunk of copper jacket to the arm because he was shooting at steel that wasn't hard enough
>wasn't hard enough

>Don't shoot at any steel your round can't cleanly punch through

So which is it? Hard or soft?

>>34081168
One or the other. Just not in between

F R A N G I B L E

>also not joining the peshmerga and enjoying shooting at reactive targets
skrrt skrrt skrrt motherfuckers

>>34081155
See
>>34080647

Thank you all for the suggestions.

After much deliberation, I've decide to go with some clays and a cinder block.

>>34081168
Shoot at purpose made steel targets or shoot at soft targets you can easily penetrate. Nothing in between.

>>34080647
>>34081990
Wow, I always thought
>no funs
was just a cheeky way of saying no guns,
but it literally means there is no fun allowed
in canada.

>>34079237
HMMM...is that camp 9?

>>34077249
>.50
>MUH FIFTY BMG!

Yes, you're a "Bull FUcking SHit"

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>>34076367

So I welded together 3 plates of 1/4" mild steel when I had nothing to do at work and had some scrap laying around.
I bet that's not a good idea for .308 but would that work for 7.62x39 or would it be still too unpredictable?

>>34080270
>biodegradable reactive targets for pennies each
b-buh muh kids in africa right?
also
>calling me fat for shooting food
???

>>34080291
You're aware there's such a thing as an outdoor range? Leave them out, the animals will come and much them down at night.
>smell
>outside
lmao

>>34082349
>animals will come and much them down at night
>Lead poisoning

You are a monster!

>>34082393
Clarify, you think that a round passing through would leave enough lead in the egg to contaminate it? Or are you saying they'll inevitably eat the dirt nearby that has lead deposits?

If either, then you should be against watermelons, cantaloupes, pumpkins etc for targets as well.

>>34082414
YES
BAN ASSALUT PUMPKINS!

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>>34082460
PAPER TARGETS ONLY

>>34076458
Get someone else to shoot it for you, someone new to firearms.

>>34082414
When I was a kid my best friend's family owned a commercial melon farm so we had unlimited rotten melons to shoot all summer long. Melons are objectively the best reactive target. There's nothing quite like hitting a big canteloupe with .30'06 soft point and sending chunks flying 30 or more feet away.

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>>34083187
Scale down to eggs and .22 and you'll get the same effect. Obviously they'll explode above a .22 but you don't need anything more to get a cool reaction, which is why I tend to pop them with .22, clays with the 12ga and water bottles with the pistol calibers.

I frequently see chunks of yolk and eggshell flying 15-20ft straight up after landing a solid hit with my Henry.

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>>34077249

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How hard is it to get to get metal? Shit cost me like $50 and it's been through hell anon.
I set mine up at 100 yards against some rocks, works perfectly fine

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>>34084550
My girlfriend is a alright shot at 78 yards but still not terrible for a first timer. All her between a Sig p226 and CZ75b. She prefers the CZ75B as it fits better.
Also, this is a great idea
5 gallon buckets and targets

>>34079079
>.45 AARP
I don't know if that was intentional, or just autocorrect, but fucking kek and a half

OP here. Status update

I got some clay pigeons, a few garden bricks, and 10 small flower pots. I'll get a metal target... some day

>>34084580
At 78 yards that's more than fucking alright. That's pretty damn good. Most people I know probably wouldn't even hit the target.

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>>34076501
>mfw I shot one of those with a 45-70

>>34080270
Kids in africa could of eaten those bullets.

>>34080270
I'm an atheist, but I still consider wasting food a sin.

>>34077889
>ball refers to full metal jacket ammunition for some stupid fucking reason.
Ball refers to plain inert standard ammunition. The term is derived from when a lead ball was standard. FMJ is pretty much standard now as it is most reliable. Thus it is "ball".

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I like using old frypans as .22 targets.
Cheap, plentiful, they make a nice ding when hit.

The kids love them, hang a few on the fence and they spend hours just plinking away.
They are good for curing a flinch, you know instantly when you have hit or missed.

>>34079328
This meme needs to die.

>>34081168
Are people really this fucking stupid they can't figure it out?

>>34085378
Thanks, she is wife material. Been dating her for 2 years now, was akways to scared to shoot but i finally convinced her. She did pretty well. She can't handle anything stronger then a 9mm though.

>>34087287
This looks like a ricochet waiting to happen.

You can get a steel plate in a similar size for $20 that'll hold up to .22lr forever, or spend a few bucks more on one that'll take on pistol rounds without denting.

>>34079237
WAfag? Goddamn it I want long range innawoods shooting, the cities and hikers shut everything down

>>34087624
this whole fucking ricochet thing is damn obnoxious. Step 1: shoot somewhere that is wide open. Step 2: shoot straight at something. Never down from a hill or up.

step 3: Dont listen to assholes on /k/ about steel targets when you seem to have been shooting forever.

Old walter-melons or any type of melon or fruit with a thick rind. Take a turkey baster and fill all available space inside it with similarly coloured liquid as the internals of the fruit. Now you have exploding fruit.

this is how youtubers make the fruit explode so well, even from ball. My fucking dissapointment when I shot a walter-melon with fmj and it just had a tiny little hole in yhe front and a slightly bigger one in the back, at 100m.

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I've been shooting scrap steel plates (thick drain covers ext) from the scrapyard with high powered rifles. This generally isn't a good idea but desu they are always over 100 yards away, at an angle, and we shoot down into a valley so I think we'll be okay.

Am I going to die? Pic related are the ones I shoot. On the big one the non-pen shots are mostly 7.62x39 the pen shots are 7.62x54r

On the big one the big gashes are 54r, the x39 doesn't leave all that much of a crater.

>>34076367
So what you want to do with any metal targets is have it setup to where it is leaning towards you and is secured to the ground. This way the bullets are less likely to deflect up and into the air and travel a good distance.

>>34076367
That pic is clearly an aluminum skillet treated with a non-stick surface.

>>34076367

Unless you are "stupid close", it does not matter.

I've had .45 ACP knock me off my feet from a "proper" target at a Thompson collectors' shoot, cause of pure fucking chance. Still have the dent in my shin.

That being said, rifle projos will usually bust clean through. .22LR usually blows up and splatters with little effect, unless you do something silly like stick a Ronson flint in there.

>>34076458
shoot it. just shoot it. you'll see after the first shot
t. someone who shoots at truck bumpers, fuck it im no fear monger

>>34076525
do this.
>>34076569
he will probably die of age before they do if they dont dent, if they do dent, then the target will probably turn into a large C before its done lol

truck bumper doesnt like .40

>>34089983
this infinitely.

>>34079381
Why don't you just tape it to paper or cardboard and have double the clays to shoot dumbass?

>>34081036
Why would you cut out the bottom? What possible purpose would that serve?

>>34096375
To fill it with sand to keep it weighed down
You lay it from the wider side which already has a whole.

>>34077736
What are you counting the land or are you still struggling with the concept of money and how it works?

>>34077249
jesus christ... you ate lead paint chips as a child, didn't you?

>>34085391
Did it obliterate it?

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>>34099999
Nice gets

>>34099999
Nice neins

>>34076568
You shot it with a fucking musket?!

>>34099999
You obliterated those digits

>>34077758
he's old, senpai. old people have had decades to accrue wealth and property. he's probably been working a job longer than you've been alive

>>34099999
Witnessed

>>34076596

Where do you live in Canada? Are you near the U.S. border? I doubt targets are illegal to bring back across

>>34101107
>Where do you live in Canada? Are you near the U.S. border? I doubt targets are illegal to bring back across
Fuck.That. The mounties won't care but apparently there are blanket regulations on the murrican side that let them grill you to the nth degree if they find ANYTHING firearm related and if you don't have an American citizenship or hunting license. I've heard first hand accounts of people getting their vehicles impounded and seats cut open because the American guards found an empty .22 casing on the floor of the truck after searching it high and low because a guy tried to bring back an AR handguard. Especially now in this Trumpian era, I don't want to risk being blacklisted as a potential turrorist threat for trying to bring back some shitty steel targets

>>34076420
>he was shooting at steel that wasn't hard enough, would dent and form bowls, which sent the round he fired right back at him.

Put your target out at 100 meters and don't use a 50 BMG and you wont have that problem.
Shoot at anything at ten feet away with a rifle and even a rock on the berm can send the bullet back.

>>34099999
G E T
E
T

>>34078703

Do you mean to tell me that you've shot clay pigeons and poked holes straight through them without cleaving them?

With what?